>2 years into lifting. >shoulder day. >OHP heavy and lateral raise hard as frick to failure

>2 years into lifting
>shoulder day
>OHP heavy and lateral raise hard as frick to failure
>no shoulder soreness whatsoever

does this happen to anyone else? the rest of my body still gets sore but shoulders won't

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How much are you OHPing and lateral raising, be honest

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2 years into lifting
    >pull/back day
    >pull ups, bb rows, isolated lat cable pulls etcetc
    >no lat soreness whatsoever

    it just doesn't fricking work

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't matter because soreness means nothing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes it does

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          when it comes to productive training no it doesn't

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            wtf does that even mean??

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              not that complicated

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hold on a frickin minute why dont i get sore evev when i go to failure?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                doesn't matter why
                we know it has nothing to do with growth
                pump, damage and soreness have nothing to do with growth, fricking nothing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I think actual its working weight tbh aka heavy hyoertophy. I increase this most easily by going "too heavy" for working weight and doing like 5+ sets of 2-5 reps then doing more sets later on after smoking a bowl and refilling my beer.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your CNS is lagging you're probably activating 30% of the muscle you're trying to target.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        how to remedy this?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Brace your core and push with your shoulders and elbows forearm and grip bracing takes away a lot, use a wider grip unless somehow narrow grip is a weak point. Push your back onto the bench more and realize your upper abs is likely a weak point.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    how much do you guys think Obelisk the Tormentor could OHP? I think it's either tens of thousands of pounds, or zero pounds because he lacks the mobility to lift his big ass arms above his big ass shoulders?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He would have to learn the movement first he only has dumbbells.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wide grip strict military press like 8 sets and finish the later sets with half rep behind the neck
    >hammer grip front raises
    >flat back bench
    >db flies every other day same with arms
    >lots of rows

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But honestly rear delts are what make your shoulders look big it turns it from a D to an oval. Also dbs suck(besides flies) and do flat back bench more.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    try upright rows
    thank me later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this, disregard all moronic athleanx shills and row some fricking weight

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    People actually get sore after the first week?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some muscle groups need more volume than low volume with high intensity
    Best example is calfs, forearms and shoulders because evolutionarily those 3 we used the most throughout the day.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same boat as you, been lifting for 6~ years and shoulders never get sore anymore. I've hit 205lb ohp, First time it got sore in a long time was when I started targeting rear though rear delt cable flies, but it doesn't get sore anymore from that.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deltoids are mostly a slow twitch fiber muscle. It's usually better to train them with higher rep ranges. You will still recruit all the high threshold motor units if you take each exercise to failure.
    >OHP heavy
    Try a lighter weight and do it with stricter form. An actual overhead press instead of a standing incline press. No push-press either.
    >lateral raise hard
    Stop the negative when your arms are about 30 degrees or so from vertical if you're using dumbbells. If you are using a machine or cables, this is not as much of a problem. Higher rep ranges too.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is a good post and is true that high reps will lead to better shoulder gains but you should still lift heavy as it helps to recruit more muscle fibers wich results in better activation so on top of what this anon said, one should do a couple of very heavy sets atleast once a week.

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