210 ng/dl test at 18

is it over?

I've been going to the gym and making decent progress for about a year and a half, but plateaued after the newbie gains phase.

Got a blood test because I've been having really bad gyno even though I'm at ~15% bf and I have 7.3 nmol/l testosterone (around 210 ng/dl)
My doctor said it's fine and that it's normal which I assume is to stop people abusing the system to get free T (I'm from Australia)

The frick do I do now i'm 18 and have the T levels of an old man

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    sorry anon men have been poisoned

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    it’s over mate. steroid prices are highest in australia too. you were cursed the moment you were brought into this earth

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      might move to thailand, cheap T and ladyboys.
      its a win-win in my book

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >aussie going to thailand

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        i don't get the thailand meme the ladyboys weren't that great there i went to cancun and the latina trannies around the hotels were way hotter and could get hard when i fricked them also i didn't have to pay for a few of them

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    measuring test after 8 am is pointless

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      got the test at like 9 am

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        it says 9:40
        here they won't even do it unless it's between 6am and 8am

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Between 8 and 9h40 isn't that much that will drop it significantly

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >clinical notes : gynecomastia
    low T and gyno? fuuck dude ripperoni

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post diet

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's your diet like?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      2500cals and >150g protein
      depends on day to day but I eat as clean as possible and lots of red meat

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is there visible mold in your house or workplace?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Nope.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What is the deal with mold and testosterone?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            certain mycotoxins mimic estrogen and reduce testosterone. it's not talked about a lot but there are several studies.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > 150g protein
        Soi protein ?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          nope only whey and red meat but mostly the latter

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    That’s insane man, I’m sure you could complain about low T symptoms deteriorating your quality of life and get some kind of help. I’ve heard they will prescribe clomid in some instances and even that would help you

    If you’re below 350 in canada you get trt without questions, but I’d just buy black market if I was anywhere near that

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah man my doctor claimed it was within normal range which it clearly fricking isn't and said that having higher t isn't a good thing, Australia is fricked for trt

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        that is fricked, i would tell him well i am depressed so give me ketamine. also i have anxiety from low T so give me xanax.

        oh and my body hurts because higher T provides a greater pain threshold, give me hydromorphone too.

        and if he didnt id file a report claiming unethical malpractice then find other doctors/politicians who dont like him and lobby to get his medical license revoked kek

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have diagnosed depression/anxiety and PTSD which i now think could be caused by this lmfao

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >xanax
          benzos absolutely nuke your test

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            yes but real actual xanax is worth its weight in gold, you could trade a 1 month bottle of bars for like a 6 month supply of UGL gear. and if your balls already dont work then so what?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >oh and my body hurts because higher T provides a greater pain threshold,
          Does that explain why every exercise hurts in a bad way and i always gotta use higher reps and lower weights because of my fricking pussy body being a pussy?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            testosterone causes pain receptor activation to release more dopamine and endorphins, making the exercise feel better so yes.

            low T also not surprisingly causes low estradiol conversion, and estradiol has a role in pain management as well.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              shit so chronic pain and being more "fragile" in tolerance to weight lifting might actually be low T issue. I mean gains are coming slow and sleep is difficult to get. Makes sense. Interesting. Not OP just curious

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you go out and get sunlight?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      he's australian, he gets skin cancer from just opening the window blinds

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      dude im Aussie ofc i get sunlight

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I got my test back two days ago, 27.4 nmol/L - and that was the only thing my doctor sent me. Didn't even say if it was low or normal, but I think this is supposed to be in the hundreds so it's probably over for me as well. Any tips of how to proceed? I'm 31... I thought being an old frick would give me T no questions asked

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah bro you're good 27.4 nmol/l is like 790 ng/dl you're high normal

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        anything above 10 nmol/l is considered normal
        t. 20 nmol/l

        >27.4 nmol/l is like 790 ng/dl

        I'm moronic, can't into fricking measurements. I kept reading the ng/dl in hundreds, even over 1000 was good. I still have symtomps on low T, not sure I really trust what they say is normal is actually normal. Why is it so difficult to get T anyway? Just getting the test was difficult "we don't usually test this on anyone under 40..."

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I still have symtomps on low T,
          What is your shbg and free testosterone?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, the only thing I got sent was 27.4 nmol/L and I don't have an appointment until next week to find out the others since he didn't send them. What should they be in? I need to go prepared

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >>27.4 nmol/l is like 790 ng/dl
          still shit, i'm 37. You should be over 1k.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            total testosterone is irrelevant

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            1k+ is borderline supraphysiological

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah you are moronic why did you have to ask instead of googling this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      anything above 10 nmol/l is considered normal
      t. 20 nmol/l

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm taking pregnenolone for low t and it helps due to a genetic issue I have

    Imo your next critical step is ordering 30x DNA sequencing. Or whatever is considered a full sequence. I paid for a 30x service so it's more accurate.

    My low t is directly related to a genetic problem that I can now address. If you are not of a scientific mind you will need a genetic counselor or something to explain stuff.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're just getting old.
    Test levels decline naturally after your teen years.
    In nature you were supposed to already have bred with 100's of women by this point.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all these anons desperate to shut down their balls and be dependent on the pharma israelite for the rest of their lives
    IST really is full of closet trannies

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      210ng/dl is absolutely fricking nothing, man. Most men between 18-35 have levels between 500-1000ng/dl. Doing things like fixing his diet or taking 50 supplements might raise his test by 10-20% max but even then he will still be low test.

      The guy has an actual medical condition and should get treatment. Not everyone is a nutcase who doesnt want to rely on modern medicine because the end of the world is coming in… just 2 more werks

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    GPs in particular know jack fricking shit about hormones and just follow regulations that are super strict to avoid roiders abusing the system. You have hypogonadism and should get treatment. Seek out an endocrinologist or urologist in your area, because they are specialists and not moronic like GPs are

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      most endos over here are the same and 99% only deal with diabetics.

      frick australias shitty guidelines

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same thing happened to me. I'm much fitter now 12 years later only started trying maybe a year ago. Cut out soda and junk food, cook more food, and be on your feet more. Get sunshine and don't doompill jerk off on a computer for any amount of time. Your levels will rise.
    When my levels were 200 I was obese (300lbs), miserable, no friends no sex no sunshine, no nothing no work just sit on my computer playing WoW and eating 7 eleven hotdogs with cheese and Doritos washed down with two litre soda.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When my levels were 200
      how much is it now?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        215

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Either trash genes or terrible life style. I scored 700ngl after a two week drug bender with 4 hours of sleep a night.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I've been going to the gym and making decent progress for about a year and a half
    >I have no symptoms of low T
    >Oh no this number says I am low T, what am I do to?
    You're perfectly fine, homosexual. Its just a number on a piece of paper

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no symptoms of low T
      >havent made progress in the gym since newbie gains
      >gyno
      >crippling depression and anxiety
      >hair loss
      >tiredness/exhaustion
      >extremely low libido
      I think i have a few symptoms idk tho...

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your LH is low meaning your brain isn't giving a strong enough signal to produce enough test but your balls do work so it could possibly be fixed by stimulating production with clomid instead of using exogenous T

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >My doctor said it's fine and that it's normal which I assume is to stop people abusing the system to get free T (I'm from Australia)
    Isn't 210 out of the reference range? My doctors put test on my list of bloods, I think he's a bit more happy to put me on something though. I'm pretty sure my lack of sleep is the issue and I'm trying my best to make sure my levels look reasonable because I don't want to be put on something that might frick me up later.

    I haven't looked in to it but I'd consider getting a copy of your results and going to another doctor.
    >Posted at midnight
    >Now 5:38am

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