22 190lbs 6ft

Rate my TRT progress IST
Pic is 9 months in between.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How'd you convince your doc?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Told her I was having severe mood swings, depression, struggle keeping employment (not all lies) and my levels came back 334 so she was OK with it. I was denied my first time in 2020.

      sickening freak gains, and your face looks 3 years older.

      You were already carrying muscle mass before, so is the TRT going to affect your nuts or what.

      Like negatively? Pre-T I was weak erections. Feels like second puberty and I’m barely started. This is just %6bf loss and lifting relatively frequently.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah I meant in good way, freaky gains and you looked strong in before pic also

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wtf is wrong with american doctors?
        why are they so complicit in the pussification of american youth?
        you told a bunch of lies to your doctor so they'd give you a testosterone vial which raises your testosterone to a sub-physicalogical level
        now you're risking being dependent on a substance that turns you into a eunuch
        do you think you're fucking cool by subverting the system by lying to your doctor? you're just playing yourself
        did you examine your sleep and diet? did you try reducing your stress levels? did you try increasing physical stress levels? probably not. your doctor doesn't care about your health

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I had 339 reading, worked out for a year but if I miss a week my lifts drop 30-40% and very injury prone. Still very soft, do i do trt for rest of my life at 23?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sickening freak gains, and your face looks 3 years older.

    You were already carrying muscle mass before, so is the TRT going to affect your nuts or what.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No offense, but this is a decent natty physique. You didn't need TRT for this unless you were at like 200 ng/dl or something. I was benching 375 lbs, squatting 5 plates and deadlifting 550 at 500-ish ng/dl when I was still a natty.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      First, post body. Secondly, he already said he had low t before TRT.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >First, post body
        Fine, this is what I looked like as a natural doing the numbers I mentioned.

        >Secondly, he already said he had low t before TRT.
        Right, he said he had 334. I didn't see it. In that case TRT is legit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why would you lie on a place like this, is it insecurity?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, bro. Please tell me how I'm lying.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're a roider, and you all try to convince people that you had way better levels as natties than you actually did. Usually people like you jsut inflate a few numbers, show a pic of themselves after a cycle or two instead of their actual natty physique, and call it a day as no one can prove or disprove any of your claims anyway. Also who the fuck gets their test measured when they can so obviously tell they have no issues with it being low and are actually natty?

              I'm not even saying your body is unattainable natty, but that lean body, plus the numbers you claim, plus the classic unimpressive chests and capped delts that are typical of roiders, mark you as one.

              Again, there's no point in arguing this on the internet, when even irl it'd be hard to prove anything anyway, but that's the reasoning. I've also been called a roider and I don't bother arguing for those same reasons.

              Or maybe you're short as fuck, who knows.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao you're seething so hard mate. Made me kek. But yeah,he looks like he's at the natty limit.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                literally every fucking roidchud does this lol. used to piss me off but now i see them for the sad people they are.

                Lmao you're seething so hard mate. Made me kek. But yeah,he looks like he's at the natty limit.

                nice samefag lol
                like the other anon said, your delts are capped and 3d yet your chest (and midsection in general) are nowhere even close. this is probably due to you focusing only on the most responsive muscle groups with the same lazy mindset that led you to steroids in the first place.
                given the circumstances and your unprompted "hehe i was big and strong before roids", nobodys buying it bud.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You're a roider,
                Now, yes. Back when that pic was taken? Hell now.

                > and you all try to convince people that you had way better levels as natties than you actually did.
                And why would I need to do that? If anything, I would say that you need roids to achieve anything and that lifting natty is pointless if I wanted justify my own roid usage. It's the opposite. I think roiding is pointless unless you compete in some kind of sport.

                >I'm not even saying your body is unattainable natty, but that lean body, plus the numbers you claim, plus the classic unimpressive chests and capped delts that are typical of roiders, mark you as one.
                You're delusional. That was after a 4 month cut and I was still depleted. This is what I looked like when I was lifting those numbers. Please tell me again how capped my delts were lmao.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They're so bad about it too
            A dude in a thread last week claimed that repping 60lb dumbells was a novice lift

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ruined by tatto

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a completely normal test level though

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The average for men in their 20s is around 650.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know man, but on left was lifting for 2 years. I had shitty T levels and motivation, it was more for my mental health than anything.

      Do you have to do TRT forever now?

      No but I plan to, I can’t imagine going back to before. The lifts are just a bonus, I feel like I wanna live now lol

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's almost like different people have different genetic potential.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No offense, but who cares. I reached almost identical stats as you as a natty as well, and it took me ~5 years of (fairly consistent) lifting. I know as well as you do that progressing past that point as a natty is a very slow process, greatly diminished returns for the effort you put in once you're around 2/3/4/5 level.

      It's the eventual progression of the natty brah. Once you're there you have to make a choice, either cut down to look aesthetic, start roiding to leave humanity behind, lower their intensity and try to maintain so you haven't ground your joints into dust by the time you're 40, or just quit lifting and move on to something else. OP just decided to bypass all this and make up his mind in the beginning, nothing wrong with that.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro that is so achievable natty, why take test?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it over for me?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mine dips into the red zone later during the day but doc wouldnt put me on trt. For me its over

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      look up actual data on test levels. high test doesn't actually mean you're going to be a high responder to training, low test doesn't mean you're going to be a low responder. there's some theorizing that for many people higher test levels are often the result of a body not efficiently utilizing testosterone so the body needs to produce more of it. don't worry about what your numbers are unless they're low enough you need to get on TRT. just lift

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gonna get a testosterone test. If it comes back as low should I just roid with low doses of test? Doctors here will never give you TRT even if you have the test levels of an 80 year old

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course you should roid. You have fucking one life on this planet, why would you waste it living with low T? Low T symptons
      >Low sex drive
      >Erectile dysfunction
      >Decreased sense of well-being
      >Depressed mood
      >Difficulties with concentration and memory
      >Fatigue
      >Moodiness and irritability
      >Loss of muscular strength
      >A decrease in hemoglobin and mild anemia
      >A decrease in body hair
      >Thinning of the bones (osteoporosis)
      >Increased body fat
      >Breast development (gynecomastia)
      >Infertility

      That's not life worth living, seriously. I have type 1 diabetes and I get my blood tests done regularly. Last week was the first time ever I thought of asking him to check my test levels too. I'm really excited to see the results. If my test is normal or even higher than average then that's great I know that all the symptons are "placebo" or just because of something else. Basically need to man the fuck up and take personal responsibility. If my test levels are low well hey I finally got an explanation for all the symptoms. If it's not low (basically zero in finland to get it prescribed) then I'm just gonna roid fuck it. Not gonna waste living life like a woman.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        trt if anything would promote gynecomastia
        and shit skin
        and prostate can
        and acne
        and hairloss
        plus you would permanently crash your natural test production and risk infertility, dependent on big pharma until the day you die.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it absolutely wouldn't. a literal pharma grade trt checked by doctor is not gonna have anything but positive side effects for someone that has medically diagnosed low test.

          however blasting chinese bathtub chemicals with fucked up hormones and broscience is gonna get you all mentioned above.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope harder dyel cuck

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        100%

        I would rather kms then live with being a low T gay fat Incel again. Getting on roids gave me a second chance at life, and if I die I’ll know I didn’t waste it being a loser still. Why on gods geeen earth would you settle for what you listed. Nope, if being called a chud is the only punishment I can live with that. Based take

        T. Former loser who started cycling at 25 abs life did a complete 180

      • 4 weeks ago
        OP

        While I don’t suggest roiding immediately, I agree.
        Me on the left was after almost 2 years lifting with 90% clean diet. I was miserable, eating like a woman and not seeing results. After just 3 months on TRT I noticed improvement. Got my first morning wood at 21 lol. I just can’t fathom living with low T, I personally couldn’t do it again

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have most of it, but I have high sex drive to the point it annoys my gf, should I get tested?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    looks great
    people here will cope and go >roiding for this despite the fact that you mog 90% of the population now

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      90 percent lmao more like 99 don't forget that the averahe amerimutt is litterally obese

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do you have to do TRT forever now?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek TRT for this?

    You could easily train that muscle mass in a year of naty.

    You must've been pretty lazy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post body

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        here you go

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh look you're fat and look like shit compared to the op, shocker

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          newfags will say you look like shit, also should be noted this is what women are talking about when they say they love dadbods

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Looks like a strong young man, props

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your posing is retardo mode but you look pretty good

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >roiding for this
    Nah I'm kidding bro if you really were low T due to general modern world garden gnomery you have a valid reason for trt just dont start claiming natty though, otherwise you're going to die in your sleep

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not bad for a fraud

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did test give you hair loss? Or is it just the haircut?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just the haircut, only negative side is I get aggressive easier and for some reason slight gyno

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You look great but yeah i noticed the gyno but its a sacrifice.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not bad but you could have done it natty

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