>24yo male. >200lbs. >5'8. >moderate exercise. >33% bodyfat

>24yo male
>200lbs
>5'8
>moderate exercise
>33% bodyfat
TDEE ~2600

>155lbs
>15% bodyfat
>moderate exercise
TDEE ~2600

Why can't I just eat 2600 kcal while working out until i get from 200lbs to 155 lbs?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cmon you gays give me something

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP
    >gay

    All I read

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmao m8 you're 33% bodyfat
    Why would you listen to your own advice?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That wasnt the question you cuck. Read the task again and report back with results in 5 minutes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sound angry at existence itself, this it what fat does to the brain. Good luck eating 2600 calories a day

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just admit you don't know what you're talking about, which is OK. Don't pretend to be something you're not

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >don't pretend to be something you're not
            At least I'm not an obese man pretending to be a shredded gym rat

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kek malding

              Under ideal conditions, energy used from fat can be used towards muscle protein synthesis. These ideal conditions do not commonly exist, and when they do, it's not for long. Recomping from 33% to a non-disgusting body fatness is possible if you accelerate to a relativistic speed, but otherwise the heat death of the universe would happen first.

              Ok, second question. If you were to consume 2000 kcal instead, a 600kcal deficit, you should have no problem to cut down to 15%, right? Why do plateaus happen.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both of your question dovetail with homeostasis. You body possesses an ability called adaptive thermogenesis whereby it can alter your energy output subconsciously. This can be via hormone downregulation, lower protein synthesis, or making you feel sluggish so you move less. A solid calorie deficit works best for fat loss than trying to recomp for this reason, since the idea is to make the deficit bigger than your body can move the needle by itself. When the deficit meets the adaptive thermogenesis capacity, plateaus occur.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My dude isn't really a plateau so much as a tectonic plate
                Gonna need something earthshattering to get this fat loss going

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huh. Does this mean that you will never hit a plateau if you go for a big calorie deficit, like ~1000kcal? Your body can't possibly adapt to such low amounts, right?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Correct. There's a guy who talks about this a lot, Martin Macdonald I think, the idea of cutting aggressively for shorter periods (4-6 weeks iirc), taking a break if need be, then recalculating and starting again. You can safely lose a little over 1% of your body mass per week at most fatness levels, I forget the formula. This is why a lot of people like fasting too.
                Key takeaway here is that if you aren't losing weight, you weren't in a caloric deficit. You can change the energy in, but if your body changes the energy out to match, it wasn't a deficit. Weight often, take moving averages.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see. Thanks for your time.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muscle mass uses more energy at rest than adipose tissue. Life's a bitch, now stop fucking fucking eating, fatty

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eating*, your gay post made me too angry to type straight

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does recomp work then?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Under ideal conditions, energy used from fat can be used towards muscle protein synthesis. These ideal conditions do not commonly exist, and when they do, it's not for long. Recomping from 33% to a non-disgusting body fatness is possible if you accelerate to a relativistic speed, but otherwise the heat death of the universe would happen first.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not gonna work if you're 33% bodyfat lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why not. Explain in your own words

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because you have to do an extremely dramatic swing of either gaining 50+lbs of lean tissue or losing 30+lbs of bodyfat to achieve a normal body composition. It would take years.

            Also it's likely that being obese is fucking up your hormones and you have much lower testosterone and higher estrogen than a normal guy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only works if you're 10 - 20lbs overweight and spend years lifting while eating maintain kcal

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real answer that you don't want to hear, is that you don't have what it takes to work that hard. You aren't built that way. Simple as. No one with that kind of work ethic balloons to obesity

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        post body 🙂

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what for, shit for brains

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I want to see the specimen that's going to achieve 15% bodyfat at 2600 calories a day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is "recomping" just lifting weights on a cut?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "I'm recomping" is an excuse to keep eating poorly while avoiding any real, meaningful change

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can, you just need to work out more and be more active

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When you say "working out" what specifically do you have in mind and how many calories do you realistically think you're going to burn
    Because people underestimate how much they eat and overestimate how much exercise burns all the time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I run 3 miles a day and do bodyweight exercises 3 times a week.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh boy
        Good luck

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Oh boy
          oh boy as in im doing too little?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You only burn around 100 calories per mile, it's common for people to eat those back because running makes you hungry. How intense are these bodyweight exercises?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              intense in what way? i do squats, pullups and pushups

              100 squats
              4x5 pullups
              60 pushups

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You won't put on mass from bodyweight exercises unless you want to invest the next 5 years into training. With lifting weights it will take half the time to see the same process. Bodyweight exercises are a lean man games, not for fatties.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this doesnt make sense. if you have more bodyweight those exercises should be more difficult to perform.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Birth of a permabulker

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but weight put more weight on the exercise by deafault.
                I used to bodyweight squats in the hundreds before getting a barbell and guess what my legs only grew when I did 135lbs for 10 reps x 3 despite being 70lbs overweight.
                The only exercise where you body weight adds so much that it accomplish the same effect as weight lifting is the pull-up/chin-up.
                But guess who puts more mass on the bone, a 20lbs over weight guy doing 100 push-ups or a guy that is 20lbs over weight benching 135lbs x 10 for 3 sets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You will accomplish change to body, but you will come a plateau whereupon further progress is difficult. It is a strange journey

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where is the progression? You're not doing the same thing every time, right Anon? If you're not progressively overloading in some way, it's not really a workout.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats my latest numbers. I overload by doing more reps.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mate, I'd be surprised if you lose anything if you're still eating 2,600

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm eating 2100 right now but I was wondering about this question on the way home from work.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Went from 240lbs to 180lbs at 5'6
    You have to plenty of reserves so you can cut your kcal in half, you will feel like shit and your strength will plummet but it's better than being fat.

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