>24yo male
>200lbs
>5'8
>moderate exercise
>33% bodyfat
TDEE ~2600
>155lbs
>15% bodyfat
>moderate exercise
TDEE ~2600
Why can't I just eat 2600 kcal while working out until i get from 200lbs to 155 lbs?
>24yo male
>200lbs
>5'8
>moderate exercise
>33% bodyfat
TDEE ~2600
>155lbs
>15% bodyfat
>moderate exercise
TDEE ~2600
Why can't I just eat 2600 kcal while working out until i get from 200lbs to 155 lbs?
cmon you homosexuals give me something
>OP
>homosexual
All I read
Lmao m8 you're 33% bodyfat
Why would you listen to your own advice?
That wasnt the question you cuck. Read the task again and report back with results in 5 minutes.
You sound angry at existence itself, this it what fat does to the brain. good luck eating 2600 calories a day
Just admit you don't know what you're talking about, which is OK. Don't pretend to be something you're not
>don't pretend to be something you're not
At least I'm not an obese man pretending to be a shredded gym rat
kek malding
Ok, second question. If you were to consume 2000 kcal instead, a 600kcal deficit, you should have no problem to cut down to 15%, right? Why do plateaus happen.
Both of your question dovetail with homeostasis. You body possesses an ability called adaptive thermogenesis whereby it can alter your energy output subconsciously. This can be via hormone downregulation, lower protein synthesis, or making you feel sluggish so you move less. A solid calorie deficit works best for fat loss than trying to recomp for this reason, since the idea is to make the deficit bigger than your body can move the needle by itself. When the deficit meets the adaptive thermogenesis capacity, plateaus occur.
My dude isn't really a plateau so much as a tectonic plate
Gonna need something earthshattering to get this fat loss going
Huh. Does this mean that you will never hit a plateau if you go for a big calorie deficit, like ~1000kcal? Your body can't possibly adapt to such low amounts, right?
Correct. There's a guy who talks about this a lot, Martin Macdonald I think, the idea of cutting aggressively for shorter periods (4-6 weeks iirc), taking a break if need be, then recalculating and starting again. You can safely lose a little over 1% of your body mass per week at most fatness levels, I forget the formula. This is why a lot of people like fasting too.
Key takeaway here is that if you aren't losing weight, you weren't in a caloric deficit. You can change the energy in, but if your body changes the energy out to match, it wasn't a deficit. Weight often, take moving averages.
I see. Thanks for your time.
Muscle mass uses more energy at rest than adipose tissue. Life's a b***h, now stop fricking fricking eating, fatty
Eating*, your gay post made me too angry to type straight
Why does recomp work then?
Under ideal conditions, energy used from fat can be used towards muscle protein synthesis. These ideal conditions do not commonly exist, and when they do, it's not for long. Recomping from 33% to a non-disgusting body fatness is possible if you accelerate to a relativistic speed, but otherwise the heat death of the universe would happen first.
It's not gonna work if you're 33% bodyfat lmao
Why not. Explain in your own words
Because you have to do an extremely dramatic swing of either gaining 50+lbs of lean tissue or losing 30+lbs of bodyfat to achieve a normal body composition. It would take years.
Also it's likely that being obese is fricking up your hormones and you have much lower testosterone and higher estrogen than a normal guy
Only works if you're 10 - 20lbs overweight and spend years lifting while eating maintain kcal
The real answer that you don't want to hear, is that you don't have what it takes to work that hard. You aren't built that way. Simple as. No one with that kind of work ethic balloons to obesity
It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.
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what for, shit for brains
I want to see the specimen that's going to achieve 15% bodyfat at 2600 calories a day
>It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.
>>It's not about me. It's about more fundamental concepts. Try to think in an abstract way, if you can.
Is "recomping" just lifting weights on a cut?
"I'm recomping" is an excuse to keep eating poorly while avoiding any real, meaningful change
You can, you just need to work out more and be more active
When you say "working out" what specifically do you have in mind and how many calories do you realistically think you're going to burn
Because people underestimate how much they eat and overestimate how much exercise burns all the time
I run 3 miles a day and do bodyweight exercises 3 times a week.
Oh boy
Good luck
>Oh boy
oh boy as in im doing too little?
You only burn around 100 calories per mile, it's common for people to eat those back because running makes you hungry. How intense are these bodyweight exercises?
intense in what way? i do squats, pullups and pushups
100 squats
4x5 pullups
60 pushups
You won't put on mass from bodyweight exercises unless you want to invest the next 5 years into training. With lifting weights it will take half the time to see the same process. Bodyweight exercises are a lean man games, not for fatties.
this doesnt make sense. if you have more bodyweight those exercises should be more difficult to perform.
Birth of a permabulker
Yeah but weight put more weight on the exercise by deafault.
I used to bodyweight squats in the hundreds before getting a barbell and guess what my legs only grew when I did 135lbs for 10 reps x 3 despite being 70lbs overweight.
The only exercise where you body weight adds so much that it accomplish the same effect as weight lifting is the pull-up/chin-up.
But guess who puts more mass on the bone, a 20lbs over weight guy doing 100 push-ups or a guy that is 20lbs over weight benching 135lbs x 10 for 3 sets.
You will accomplish change to body, but you will come a plateau whereupon further progress is difficult. It is a strange journey
Where is the progression? You're not doing the same thing every time, right Anon? If you're not progressively overloading in some way, it's not really a workout.
Thats my latest numbers. I overload by doing more reps.
Mate, I'd be surprised if you lose anything if you're still eating 2,600
I'm eating 2100 right now but I was wondering about this question on the way home from work.
Went from 240lbs to 180lbs at 5'6
You have to plenty of reserves so you can cut your kcal in half, you will feel like shit and your strength will plummet but it's better than being fat.