>280lbs, 6ft 1, 34 years old. >Natty

>280lbs, 6ft 1, 34 years old
>Natty
pick one.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s called caveman genes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, no. 230-240 maybe.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believe him
    >b-b-but I’ve been lifting 3 years halfassed with normal genetics and I don’t look like him!!!1!
    The man has trained for over 20 years dedicating every ounce of his being to training with exceptional genetics, stay mad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >b-b-but I’ve been lifting 3 years halfassed with normal genetics and I don’t look like him!!!1!
      Are you talking about yourself? You sound like you didnt even have 3 years of lifting

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You’re right I’ve been lifting for a year but I’m not saying I have exceptional genetics. I’m saying someone who does might be able to reach this, not many people dedicate themselves to strength training like boogs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm nowhere near the natty limit yet but let me tell you where the natty limit is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've been training for 15 years. After the first 5 or so you're just making minor improvements. You're definintely not gonna put on 50 lbs of solid mass and increase your bench by over 100, especially in your mid 30s.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        post body

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What a fucking beast. I want to be violently fucked by him.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You said it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In theory, if you are dedicated to make as many incremental gains as possible over enough time couldn’t you reach the level he is at “natty”? His training is very intense and consistent, maybe I’m just hoping it’s true. He doesn’t look super roided and disfigured like most roidtrannies, that’s where I think natty is possible for him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hmm yes quite

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In theory, if you are dedicated to make as many incremental gains as possible over enough time couldn’t you reach the level he is at “natty”?
          No. The human body has a limit. You're not able to infinitely make gains, even minor ones. He benches 500+ in his mid-30s, while he was unable to bench 400 just a few years ago. He is not natural and the sooner you accept it, the better.

          > He doesn’t look super roided and disfigured like most roidtrannies, that’s where I think natty is possible for him
          That's because you're an idiot. That "disfigured" look is purely down to dehydration and low bf%. If he cuts down to 8% bf, he'll look like any other fitness model and bodybuilder.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wow he gained an amazing 20% after intense training. You seem to be confusing early 30s with 50s, early 30s you just getting started.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >bro it’s 400 to 500lb bench is just 20% it’s not much
              Lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              t. sub-2plate bencher

              You have no idea how fucking ridiculous the jump is from 400 to 500 lbs. 400 is already elite, 500 is world class. It's literally impossible to make that jump in your mid 30s unless you significantly up the dosage.

              t. 31yo man who bench 4plates

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His form is something else though. If you saw him lift in a public gym you would say 'that doesn't count'.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody cares about your form when you're benching 500. It's not like anyone respects powershitters and their 2 inch ROM.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dunno. I've never seen somebody struggle during the lockout of their bench like Eric Bugenhagen. Seems like it's very tricep dominant. You could almost call it a different lift

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can almost pull anything out of your ass. Did he bench 500? Yes, he did. Was he struggling with 400 with the same bench form just a few years ago? Yes, he was.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >400 bench without having trained it for ? amount of time
                >Impossible to go up 25%
                C'mon bruh
                Yeah if he was already training hard for 400 it'd be impossible

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was failing 400 at the time, retard. Also, you are clearly a newfag if you think the jump from 400 to 500 isn't ridiculous. Most people on this board will never even hit 300, unironically. 400 lbs is a number that less than 5% of all long-time gym goers will ever hit. 500 is rarer.

                Be honest, how much is your bench press 1RM?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Most people on this board will never even hit 300
                Yeah most people on this board aren't D1 athletes with 20 years of training experience also
                The dude has professional bodybuilder genetics, people could do all the test and tren in the world, wouldn't look like him.
                I haven't benched in over a year, last I did was 185lbs. I know that the more weight you put on the more difficult it gets, but form adjustement, CNS training and not locking out will make a bigger lift possible.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I haven't benched in over a year, last I did was 185lbs

                Mods please ban

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I haven't benched in over a year, last I did was 185lbs.
                There we go. That's all I needed to read. So we have some kid that benches what I benched when I was 16 telling me, a 400+ bencher with 15 years of lifting experience under my belt, what's possible and what's not possible naturally. These are the people giving you advice on IST. I am done with this retarded board.

                Here's a webm of me doing bench press just to prove I'm not full of shit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't care about your 1x bw bench bro
                I'm not giving advice, I'm telling you what it is
                Congratz on your 4 plate bench, it's impressive. Eric Bugenhagen has better genetics than you though.

                https://i.imgur.com/8X5U6YM.png

                >I haven't benched in over a year, last I did was 185lbs

                Mods please ban

                let's be real, you wouldn't post any info about your lifts or physique and we all know why

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hope he sees this bro

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I remember that thread about NH's 1.5 hour video about how zoomers think it's cool not to care
                You're probably 30 years old, proving that plenty millenials think the exact same thing lmao

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >p-please be as n-neurotic as me daddy uwu

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not giving advice, I'm telling you what it is
                Yeah, that's the problem. You don't know jack shit and you think you're an expert.
                >Eric Bugenhagen has better genetics than you though.
                Funny way to spell steroid cycle.

                This is why you shouldn't even reply and focus on enjoying the sweet summer children with 1-3 year lifting experience debating over natty limits. Sure seems linear when you've barely scratched the surface.

                Anyway nice lift anon.

                Yeah, he'll learn the hard way when 3 years pass and he's still spinning his wheels with a sub-2plate bench press.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His clean form bench was 410, anything above that was completely 3 red lights
                Why you so butthurt bro

                >let's be real, you wouldn't post any info about your lifts or physique and we all know why

                What's the point when you're just gonna ignore it and pretend you know better? I mean, you're doing it in this very post with the 4plate bencher.

                Point is that you're insecure and it shows, so you have no business talking about other people

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >His clean form bench was 410, anything above that was completely 3 red lights
                Nobody cares. Powerlifting isn't a real sport.

                >Why you so butthurt bro
                I'm not butthurt. I'm tired of dyels like you giving disingenuous advice on IST.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >let's be real, you wouldn't post any info about your lifts or physique and we all know why

                What's the point when you're just gonna ignore it and pretend you know better? I mean, you're doing it in this very post with the 4plate bencher.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is why you shouldn't even reply and focus on enjoying the sweet summer children with 1-3 year lifting experience debating over natty limits. Sure seems linear when you've barely scratched the surface.

                Anyway nice lift anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                dog shit form

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, post bench. It would help if he had more leg drive going to balance on the bench better. But it's a clean rep at 400lbs

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The quads demand it.
                Post physique + bench

                dog shit form

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Here's a vid of me benching no where near the realm of 500lbs, no where near the size of Eric and no where near as big as him to prove my point
                wow what a fucking retarded cunt.
                Relatively you are the same as the guy who benches 185lbs you absolute mongoloid cunt.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >407 bench is the same as a 185 bench

                Based retard.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You talking about a 500lb bench with authority is the same same as the 185lb bencher talking about your 400, did you not read the word relatively in the post? Keep up sweety

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My God. You are actually retarded. How did you miss the point of my post so badly?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, my point was this

                You talking about a 500lb bench with authority is the same same as the 185lb bencher talking about your 400, did you not read the word relatively in the post? Keep up sweety

                which you conveniently ignored. I'm not talking about the rest of your bickering with the 185lb bencher. I'm talking about how you are on a high horse when you have no right to be. Now move along. You're apparently done with this board so shut the fuck up and leave.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for confirming you're too stupid to comprehend my post. This really is the dumbest board. Keep believing your surrogate father figure is natty if it helps you sleep better at night, dyel
                gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Still willingly ignoring the point
                >Still replying
                I'm OP btw you absolute retard, I'm the one claiming he isn't natty. It doesn't change my point about you.
                Now stfu, leave like you said, bye.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He doesn't have the mindset

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                BTFO

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He's not benching 500lb because he's not on gear, unlike bugez lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh formie wormie! I only bench 2 plates because if I go higher I lose muh form

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read the thread you ape brain
                Your misinterpretation of the comment makes you the retard, not anyone else

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. 31yo man who bench 4plates
                natty?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The human body has a limit.
            IT'S A MINDSET. MIND OVER MATTER. THE ONLY THING THAT'S LIMITED IS YOUR BELIEF.

            noooo you can't do that whaaaa
            STFU gay. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's literally on grams and grams of steroids. Plus a fuck ton of human growth hormone and insulin. He's a walking chem experiment.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn’t look super roided and disfigured like most roidtrannies, that’s where I think natty is possible for him

          I honestly love you natties for thinking like this. You have no idea how much it helps us fraudsters lie to normies and claim that we are natty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You have no idea how much it helps us fraudsters lie to normies and claim that we are natty.

            This. Keep your bf% on the high side and you can con natty retards into believing you're clean while blasting 2g of test, deca and dbol.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Pretty much. People think world's strongest man competitors are natty because they don't have abs. Lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine being smug about lying to people

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Imagine being smug about lying to people
              You mean like Eric?

              If I had my way everyone who lifts would be require to do at least one test+dbol cycle just once so we can finally put to rest the speculation of "is X lifter natty or not?". Once you do it yourself it become so painfully obvious how to spot it in others.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >anyone who picks up an iron chunk MUST take drugs to understand me
                Trannoid moment

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so how much can you bench at most if you start lifting in your 30s and are natty?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literally every human male can reach 3 plates if they want to.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >literally every human male can reach 3 plates if they want to.
            Only true thing said in this thread

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        legit manlet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post body

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      retard
      natty gains don't continue forever, first three years you make 95% of gains

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fun how people like NH have made most of their gains after the 5 year mark then lmfao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          When people say that you make most of your gains in the first 5 years, they mean that if you train correctly. Retards like NH, who can't even crack a 200 lbs OHP, obviously don't fall into that category. OTOH, Eric was a D1 athlete, so he definitely made the most of his natty gains in those first 5 years.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NH and people like him are retards that take years before finally figuring out a program that'll take them to lmao2pl8 bench city.
          Most of this board is just a bunch of subhumans that struggle with a lmao2pl8 bench.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy mother of newgayry. He LITERALLY said that he cannot be considered natty because he was blasting (unknowingly) some prohormone that was actually superdrol.
      If i remember correctly it was in one of his Q&A videos but there's too much shit to sift through so i can't link it. Go and watch all of his q&a videos if you want to find it.

      Besides that, you have to be actually brain dead to not see a pattern behind his blast phases.

      >"hey guys, i'm going to make an EXPERIMENT and i will be eating dog shit for next month to see if my bench will go up"
      >starts blasting gear
      >"it's working for me but it probably won't work for you"
      Same shit every time, drinking raw onions, eating raw garlic, drinking raw milk, chewing nicotine gum, using "unconventional" training methods etc.

      It's funny how all of you gays will accuse some fucking twig zoomer from tiktok of using steroids but this fucking gargantuan is natty.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He LITERALLY said that he cannot be considered natty because he was blasting (unknowingly) some prohormone that was actually superdrol.
        He used it in college for like a week but didn't feel good, so he quit using
        That's a bit different than blasting roids lol
        You can clearly see his base is fucking gargantuas. Just look at his arm on

        https://i.imgur.com/44ufxlu.jpg

        I've been training for 15 years. After the first 5 or so you're just making minor improvements. You're definintely not gonna put on 50 lbs of solid mass and increase your bench by over 100, especially in your mid 30s.

        pic, his tricep looks naturally maxxed out on his frame.
        It's not his 'dietary tidbits', it's the fact that he's been training and eating like a lunatic since 18 years old
        There is not a single youtuber or person alive that has the same diet/training history he has

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post. Body.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lmao autism. I don't train like him.
            Retards get BTFO'd everytime this thread it made, sadly I don't have a copy pasta
            Stay DYEL bro

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >eating raw garlic
        I do this, and I will never stop. I feel so good now. Smell terrible though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anyone have the separate pic of boogs in the cutoff shirt? love this look

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seethe more twig zoomer

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is actually a very based post.

        Same is cripspin gubman's summer shredding where he just happens to pack of fat free mass 15+ yrs into his training. Or tiktok twinks that run an experiment on their "turkesterone"

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wow I'm not even phoneposting and this is littered with errors. CTE time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >stay mad
      Bro we're not the ones completely delusional about a surrogate daddy figure like you are. We're just fine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who tf has time to dedicate every ounce of their being to training? Job, family, pets, career advancements, vacations, kids, friends, travel. All those things come in the way of dedicating everything. Could it be that he... roids?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even if you do devote every ounce like a bodybuilder, those types of gains are just not feasible natty unless you're Ronnie Fucking Coleman. If he was 240lbs I could believe it. I've seen guys 240lbs with that physique in good lighting and in a bulk. But 280lbs? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how his dick taste

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >le progress is le linear even after decades
      top jej, eric fanboys should get banned

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, you see, he's not 8% bf, which means that he's totally natty. Because everyone knows you can be the same size as Brock Lesnar naturally, if you just stay above 10%.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sub-human zoomers will never be able to experience this
    feelsgoodman.webp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Neither will you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >zoomers will never be able to experience being on roids
      I dunno man, test is cheaper than sarms.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's a pro wrestler, they're all on roids

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not all of them anon

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not all of them anon
        Damn, Shawn Michaels got old...

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I believe he was natty up until he joined WWE. Two big injuries and he's gotten way bigger, especially if you look at his older vids.
    It's his career to be huge and healthy, why not do it?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's the natty limit bros?
    How big can I hope to be while staying natural?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It really depends on your genetics, but you can look at some pre-roid (before the 1940s) era bodybuilders to get a general idea.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        5ft 5

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          5'9, actually. That was pretty good for the early 20th century.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So taller than most of the people here?
            We’re all gonna make it nattybros

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most body builders are manlets though, and I assume the same could be said of pre-roid era.
        Simply put; if you are above 5'8, good luck ever looking thicc and juicy without gear

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I stand corrected

          5'9, actually. That was pretty good for the early 20th century.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          regardless of height, if you have thick bonestructure (not fatty big boned, like actual thick structure), there should be no reason you struggle to look thick

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me but I don’t train. Not as big as my potential. Don’t worry champ maybe if you roid you can get close to what I could be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I use Bugez as my maximum possible natty unless you're a fucking 1 in a billion freak metric

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I use this blatant fake natty as my natty limit

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    loony chudies are gonna become some sort of art I imgine

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOO HE CANT BE NATURAL
    a thread full of skeletons and roid trannies oding on copium

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >n-no! my daddy is natty!!

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can look up the natty limit of weight and height online dude it's 180 cm natty limit of muscle mass for professional body builder at a low bf issss drumroll 81 kilos

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You gotta take the raw garlic pill

  13. 3 weeks ago
    nutefag

    damn he's sexy

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Compare this to any roidchud physique

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's almost 300lbs here. You kids have no sense of scale.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      imagine trying to wrestle this gorilla. respect to the natty king, he inspires me every day.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, here's a confirmed roider. Same height and weight as Eric. Now what, retard?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In that pic you shared, Lesnar is actually 3” taller than bugez, while both being 278#

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, I’m Eric’s height but I’m full ottermode and 190. I was thinking he was at least 6’3 or something. Just proves that build and frame is everything when it comes to perceived height.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eric is 6'1, Brock is 6'2, you retard.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1920's dock worker-mode

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both Sam and Adam Driver are half the size of Eric, you delusional retard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they are whey taller.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He looks Klokov mode who is/was on the sauce.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He started roiding a couple yes ago sadly

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Either lying about his weight or fake natty

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still the natty king

    >seethe

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: ITB: crabs in a fucking bucket

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lalo salamanca got swole since the last ep of bcs

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's obviously not natty since his WWE breakthrough, might have been a few years ago

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    everyone in this thread is an insufferable moron and has aided in the downfall of this board

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's natty because I believe him to be

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He literally just uploaded this video.

    Here is a man who doesn't even bother pretending anymore he might as well have been reading this thread.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me on the left doing seating shrugs

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I legit am going to roid and say I'm natty while pushing some retarded grift like eating 6 eggs mixed with spinach every day and lifting every day while putting my balls in a red sunlamp. Some retard will pay me and buy this bullshit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should. They'll be threads here defending your natty status to death

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Don't forget the pattented "I've been training for X amount of years" line.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love these threads because they alwayd generate so much butthurt from mentally ill fanboys, that gay with the 185lbs bench is a prime example. Let's go through the common arguments:
    >unconventional diet
    Common trend among fake natties to attribute their gains to some retarded diet that 99% of the population will never adhere to for longer than 3 days
    >D1 athlete
    Jeff Seid came 2nd place at nationals for college wrestling, commonly accepted as fake natty, also been called out for height/weight frauding
    >20 years training
    Again, Jeff Seid has been training since he was a child, however he doesn't make quirky screaming videos on Youtube that resonate with autistic manchildren
    >he's not that lean
    If any single gay in this thread bulked to 280lbs natty you'd probably find a creepshot of them in a /fph/ thread in the next few weeks
    >genetics/mindest
    Common unquantifiable cop outs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tell me why 300/500/600/700 isnt naturally attainable? Can you explain to me why he isn't as strong as a natty like freakied0550, even at the same bodyweight?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >freakied0550
        nice trips but it is cuz freakied0550 looks like picrel, to clarify I think 300/500/600/700 is attainable but you won't look like Buggz . Even someone like Russel Orhii doesn't look as good as buggz but people still question his natty status

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So if we agree that 3/5/6/700 is attainable naturally than why does eric bugenhagen, a steroid user in your eyes, not lift more than that? As someone who cares about his maxes more than anything, why hasn't he escaped natural numbers? Freakied0550 lifts more because hes fatter? If eric has more lean mass, and does roids, why isnt he stronger?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There's plenty of roid users that aren't even close to 300/500/600/700 since those are well and truely advanced numbers. You're just pea-brained enough to think that Bugez is some elite genetic freak top 0.1% natty athlete you jump to the conclusion that if he were on roids he'd be in the elite top 0.1% of roiders too. He doesn't actively compete in strength sports so why would you expect his numbers to compare to powerlifters and strongmen around the same weight?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most roiders will never reach even their own natural limit. Most roiders don't care about lifting at all, but bugenhagen is a very dedicated lifter and obviously expends a lot of energy chasing PR's, so when did he hop on? A couple years ago when he bulked from 245 to 275? Keep in mind he deadlifted around 675 years ago, before the roid accussations. So why did he only deadlift 700 before his knee exploded? Or was he roiding all along? In which case why wouldn't a lifelong roider who has been lifting 20 years, and only cares about hitting new maxes, not eclipse a natty in strength like freakied0550? Do you think he has bad enough genetics to never get past naturally attainable numbers, despite blasting gear? Nothing you say makes sense.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you expect me to have an exact date he jumped on roids you fuck? Thousands of college athletes get on roids, he could've jumped on whenever, I don't give a fuck. If you jump on the archives for this site I'm sure you'll find roid accusations as long as his channel has existed, it's nothing new. It's also bold of you to assume his only life goal is hitting PRs when he's competed in exclusively 1 PL meet and as far as I know 0 strongman meets. I don't know who the fuck freakied0550 is and have only seen that pic the other anon posted, if Bugez is not only tremendously weaker than this dude but also has a significantly better body composition despite being the same height/weight you're proving the exact opposite of what you think you are dumbass.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bugenhagen says himself all he cares about are hitting numbers, and more than anything his deadlift. So either hes recently started roiding, in the lsat few years, and his lifts haven't gotten much better, or hes been roiding for a long time and still doesn't lift more than the natty limit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hes also doesnt have a much better body composition than freakied0550, seen here

                https://i.imgur.com/aPaI0wo.jpg

                >freakied0550
                nice trips but it is cuz freakied0550 looks like picrel, to clarify I think 300/500/600/700 is attainable but you won't look like Buggz . Even someone like Russel Orhii doesn't look as good as buggz but people still question his natty status

                who nobody questions his natty status and we can use as a baseline for naturally attainable numbers. Bugenhagen is atleast 25% bodyfat
                seen here. He is just never pictured anymore not flexing with a pump. He is significantly fatter than he was when his channel first blew up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hes also doesnt have a much better body composition than freakied0550, seen here
                [...]
                who nobody questions his natty status and we can use as a baseline for naturally attainable numbers. Bugenhagen is atleast 25% bodyfat
                seen here. He is just never pictured anymore not flexing with a pump. He is significantly fatter than he was when his channel first blew up.

                Yeah great cherrypicked picture, find me a cherrypicked picture of freakied0550 looking fucking diced? Some other anon has the totally natty attainable Bugez 280lbs compilation in the thread so I'm sure you can match that. Freakied also gets 1k views per video, nobody knows how the fuck he is.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russ
          >doesn’t look as good as bugez
          >natty
          lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Russel Orhii doesn't look as good as buggz
          This is how retarded bugez dickriders are lmao.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They mean his face.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bugez is handsome as fuck, but only as long as he doesn't open his mouth. The moment he starts talking, he's just redneck-tier retarded most of the time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry bro, Jeff Nippard is not cool

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Even someone like Russel Orhii doesn't look as good as buggz

          Russel looks absurd.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        9 on plg lifts 400/600/900/900 natty, but he's also 400lbs himself.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tell me why 300/500/600/700 isnt naturally attainable?
        the latter two lifts are perfectly possibly but a 300 OHP and 500 bench are world class numbers, you clown.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >b-b-but he nEvEr cLaIMeD nAtUrAl!!1!!1!
    Neither did liverfailureking, but we all know the career path for instagram dickheads is to roid and then sell snake oil products to retarded DYELs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >liverfailureking
      He actually does consistently:

      @3:15
      so did buggz one time:

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and here comes /fraud/ damage control
        You cunts post those videos constantly despite the fact that liverfailureking at not point talks about his stack and ricky roidgut danced around the subject while trying to be quirky.
        These gays have sponsorships that they wouldn't have if they were natty, they're never going to be in the financial position that they can openly talk about their gear use without being cancelled.

        While i'm here i'd really wish for you gays to stop grooming children and teenagers to "just do a little test tee hee". You're worse than the trannies, there is never a reason for a teenager to blast tren, but every time I go to your containment thread pedophile groomers are right there, grooming away.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't want others doing gear. I want everyone terrified of doing gear so I can mog even more people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      garden gnomejimufu doesn't lie about being natty. He admits it but doesn't discuss it

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The shear entertainment Eric provides is what will never make me question his natty card much like Rich Piana (RIP) and Jason Crevesa. I don't know about the rest of you gays but I'll take retarded screaming and metal blasting while he does stupid lifts over 99.9% of the fitness "content" that is put out these days.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's not natty. For a while he probably was, and fitness was just a lifestyle to him back then. But if I was in his shoes and managed to achieve my life's dream of getting a WWE contract, where now my fitness is very important to my livelihood, the first thing I'd do is hop on a shitload of gear.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not even close to 280

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shut the fuck up retard
      https://youtube.com/shorts/nDkra8770gw?feature=share

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how is there even a discussion about Eric's natty status? anyone who thinks he's a natty is delusional

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What has bugez done for a living since graduating college? Serious question.

    I know he's had his YouTube channel and recently joined the WWE. Why would he not hop on gear and lie about it? It directly helps him get paid while not working an actual job. It's literally a dream job to be a fake natty. If he admits it, he is just another roidchud in the eyes of noble natties. If he lies, he can cultivate a meme image about le mindset, le honey and garlic, etc.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you might not believe it, but this is what a natty post looks like

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one in WWE is natty. Those guys tour like 5 days in a week. In those days, they fall around the ring and be pretty physical with each other. They need PEDs to keep up with that schedule.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw can't live to 34 unless i'm a manlet

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that he's the same weight now (a year after signing up for WWE and getting juicy with it) as he was in his competitive wrestling days (280lbs).

    Realistically he probably blasted hard when he was competing in wrestling, possibly cruised or just remained off cycle for the past decade and recently got back on the blast. You can realistically maintain most of the strength you gained during a cycle when you're off cycle which explains his great lifts over the past decade.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf are you talking about. Eric was competing at 180, not 280 in his D1 days.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        During his last year he was a heavyweight

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't even try to educate these fools, literally every thread they get BTFO'd yet they keep making it. They have done 0 research

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I just think we should be more open about the whole subject is all. It's clear Bugez blasted hard in his college days especially given how lean he was at 280lb while wrestling and now he's back up to that weight looking juicy af. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with roiding but people should be more honest about it so newbies have a realistic expectation and we aren't having dumb threads like this.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Have you ever trained arms every day for 30 days?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't isolate arms

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then why are you in this thread talking about people who 'look juicy' when you don't even know the potential size of your arms

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't reach "potential size of your arms" after curling for 30 days.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Really oh I thought it did

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Training the same muscles for hypertrophy every day for 30 days is counter intuitive. Bugez talks about strength training

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Huh oh that's crazy man, can you tell me more?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you actually think he weighed 280 when he wrestled at heavyweight you fucking idiot. Yeah he gained 100lbs in one offseason. He was probable 220.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In awe of the sheer mindset on display here

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Strength peaks in the early thirties anon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Strength can keep on improving well into late 30s early 40s provided you have optimised training and don't take too much of a beating in your workouts.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bros, it’s time to admit that /our guy/ has been juicing since he started actually appearing on wwe shows.
    I believe he’s been natty for all his YouTube content posting, but not anymore.

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