5 Elite CB's with insane longevity that were never at any point considered the Best in the World, but out of these Top 5 to 10 elites, who was th...

5 Elite CB's with insane longevity that were never at any point considered the Best in the World, but out of these Top 5 to 10 elites, who was the best? In my opinion, the worst is Gerard Pique without debate, the best are Varane and Silva for strictly defensive abilities and the athletic prowess to mark the strong and the fast

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >5 Elite CB's with insane longevity that were never at any point considered the Best in the World
    Both Varane and Pique were and there's a strong argument for Silva .2014 when Ramos was still mostly known for red cards

    >worst is Gerard Pique without debate
    Pique was the best Spanish defender till 2011 when that pervert Peps surveillance on Shakira destroyed his confidence

    2nd best in the world 2009-11 after Vidic

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pique was NEVER good, so shit he couldnt make it at United, fled to Lel Liga and hid behind an aging Puyol. Ppl only think hes good bc he can heckin distribute

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kys

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wiener AND BALLS

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >chiellini
    >good

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was he a Barzagli babby all along? Would explain why Juventus wasn't as good when he retired

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He's talking bullshit.
        Chiellini and Barzagli were equally as good technically wise, only problem with the latter was that he joined a foreign team (Wolfsburg, winning a league title after playing every minute of the league) at a time when players who moved abroad disappeared from the radar and automatically lost any credentials to be called up for the national team.
        I'd say Barzagli had a shorter peak because of his recurrent injuries, but in an ideal situation one would struggle to state who was the more effective stopper between the two.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i think barzagli was less talented than chiellini as a stopper but he he gained much experience with time, so since around 30 he was always the wisest player on the pitch which allowed him to take the best decision in order to prevent any trouble. i really hope rugani can do the same, turning into a solid CB after many mediocre seasons because with experience+brain you can go a long way as a defender.
          barzagli was great but chiellini was just a force of nature

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rugani just has too many lapses in concentration or instances when he doesn’t come in strong enough. I’d be lying if I said I remembered what Barzagli was like at Wolfsburg but a lot of “late bloomer” CBs were always pretty good and it just took time for them to get noticed in the mainstream ie Van Dijk, Bremer, Koulibaily

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Humels 2 good seasons
    Varane 3 good seasons
    Chielini based
    Pique: 3 good seasons
    Thiago silva: 1 good season for milan

    chielini wins
    also dont see the longevity here
    also i amtyping this at a red light

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    HEY ! VARANE IS NOT A CB, THIS MOTHERFRICKER RETIRED FROM NATIONAL TEAM AT 30. I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT AN ELITE CB WHO RETIRES AT 30. HE'S A FRAUD

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't need to have retired at 30 to be a fraud

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >these are the best CBs nowadays
    Grim.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hummels is the best CB of the last 14 years. (ignoring players who were in the spotlight before)
    If his name was Manuelo Hummoso, Matt Hummingbee, Mathijs van der Hummel or Mattia Humbarsi he would be sucked off by everyone on this board

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      his performance against atletico was shameful, there's a reason why he didn't stay at bayern.
      pique was carried by puyol, varane carried by pepe.
      thiago silva was better than them but spent too much time in a meme league, objectively speaking chiellini mogs everyone here and those who ever played CB at any level know it

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You apparently only watched the first match, because he was brillant in the second match.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >CB was brilliant in a game where the opponents score 2 goals

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, Dier played well against Madrid the other day, they conceded 2 goals thanks to that half blind donkey playing next to him

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Silva > Chiellini > Varane > Pique > Hummus

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chiellini > Hummels > Varane > Thiago Silva > Pikek

    simple as that

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Silva doesn't get the respect he deserves because he went from playing for AC Milan during their dying years, to P$G, to Chelsea during their dying years.
      7-1 would have never happened if he wasn't injured. I'm convinced if he played for a team like Bayern his entire career he would be seen far differently

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >7-1 would have never happened if he wasn't injured
        I seriously doubt that. Still, I think he's a great defender.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't have a single good defender on the pitch with Silva, so they fell apart.
          >marcelo
          can't defend at all
          >dante
          mediocre defender
          >luiz
          fraud defender people only liked because he scored blooters
          >maicon
          lmfao, was never good but got mentally destroyed by bale

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm just saying that Thiago wouldn't change anything

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          7-1 was a psychological thing. 4 of the goals happened in 8 minutes. It was a team that heavily relied on Neymar and Silva was not only the best defender but also a captain, they had to enter a knockout match of the world cup at home without their only 2 references/leaders and crumbled down when they got scored 2 goals because they are weakminded favelados.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I still believe to this day that Neymar was injured on purpose by that Colombian defender kneeing his spine.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me you ask? Diego Godin of course!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will never consider a team that constantly sits deep and is known for parking the bus to have good defenders. If every literal who on a literal who team can just sit deep and try to scrape out draws then you're not elite for doing it at pathetico

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, every literal who on every literal who team can sit back and scrape out a draw or two in a season against Man City or Arsenal.
        But it takes a truly elite defender to scrape out multiple draws in one season against the likes of Mallorca and Levante.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This guy is better than those 5 and he gets so forgotten than he is not even mentioned by OP

        Well, then explain why Atletico conceded 4 goals against Dortmund this year on just one match when they were playing mostly without posession, and 5 against Madrid in Supercopa in just one match. Remind me when did Godin concede 4 goals or more in a decisive CL or Cup match with Atletico.
        You do need to have great CBs and defenders to make parking the bus work, Godin was simply great at that.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >in a decisive CL or Cup match with Atletico.
          Why give such a small number of matches? You're just blinded by bias, I'm sure he conceded 4 or more in a match plenty of times throughout his 9 years with the team

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean... small number of matches? In 2014 alone he played... 2 in 1/8 finals, 2 in quarter finals, two for semis and the final plus 4 matches against Madrid and Barcelona in La Liga and I have no idea in Copa del Rey. At least 11 matches that season alone. Next year he had... 2 in Supercopa, 4 in CL and another 4 in La Liga. Plus I don't know about Copa. We are at 20 matches already in just two years.

            [...]
            Godin is good but they let Ronaldo and Juventus make a comeback against them and I think they did the same with Bayern.

            Against Ronaldo he did, it was probably the worst defensive match Atletico had in his period there, 3-0. Was it his last season? I think so. But Bayern did not comeback against them, quite the contrary, they cucked Fraudiola and his super Bayern with the biggest masterpiece Cholo bus ever created.

            You lost 4-1 to Real Madrid in the champions league final, do pathetico fans have no shame or was that so traumatic you just removed it from your memory?
            I hope some RM fans come in here just so they can read this and laugh at you

            Did Cholo hurt you? Lmao. What makes you think I'm an Atletico fan?
            And yes, they did lose that final 4-1, I remember. If you actually watched the game you would not try to bring up that game to refute me. It was such a high score because 1) Atletico got there at the end of the season with half the team injured or extremely tired and they barely hanged on until Ramos goal. 2) Again, it was the very last match of that long ass season, first time Atletico got till the end, a week after they had to play in Camp Nou to win La Liga. 3) It got to overtime. 4) 3 Madrid goals came in overtime when Atletico couldn't hang on anymore.
            It is not specially a great match to hold it against Godin. But Okay, Godin ate one (1) beating in an important match in his long career in Atletico.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >godin never lost by 4 goals or more in an important match!
              >uhhh actually losing 4-1 in the champions league final to your biggest rivals doesn't count!
              the fricking state of pathetico fans

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that's what it was, Bayern won the game but Atleti had that 1-0 away goal advantage from the first leg. also

              You lost 4-1 to Real Madrid in the champions league final, do pathetico fans have no shame or was that so traumatic you just removed it from your memory?
              I hope some RM fans come in here just so they can read this and laugh at you

              the 4-1 scoreline is kind of misleading since Simeone gambled on Costa to be fit for the final he had to waste a sub and in extra time you saw the Atleti players dropping, it might have been Juanfran who had an injury but couldn't be subbed off so Di Maria kept attacking his side and they got the win at the end.

              for me it's been Jaap Stam, Pepe and Carvalho as my favorite defenders then Ferrara, Montero and Vidic being up there too for being crazy and skilled.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >in a decisive CL or Cup match with Atletico.
          Why give such a small number of matches? You're just blinded by bias, I'm sure he conceded 4 or more in a match plenty of times throughout his 9 years with the team

          Godin is good but they let Ronaldo and Juventus make a comeback against them and I think they did the same with Bayern.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You lost 4-1 to Real Madrid in the champions league final, do pathetico fans have no shame or was that so traumatic you just removed it from your memory?
          I hope some RM fans come in here just so they can read this and laugh at you

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    silva > chiellini > hummels > pique > varane

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pique was better than Hummels in ball playing but Hummels was far better at challenging and the difference in ability of classic CB work is larger than that of the ball playing ability both possessed. No clue about Varane but I think the opinions on Silva are only divided because he was at PSG for so long; for a short period there his form was absolutely the best in the world. I don't know how you can have divided opinions on Chiellini, his career and the opinions of managers on him speak for themselves. Bonucci I can see a little more but even he is regularly dunked upon by Italians for reasons that are largely complete horse shit. Any country would kill to have even one of those three (Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini) but to have all three and still not be happy? Frick me...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pique is not even CLOSE to Hummels in ball playing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bonucci I can see a little more but even he is regularly dunked upon by Italians for reasons that are largely complete horse shit
      Lol give over. Bonucci proved to be a complete shitc**t with fewer braincells than an overbaked brick.
      If he had stuck to his duties on the pitch he would have been remembered as a good ball-playing defender, but to appease his oversized ego he completely tarnished his reputation: first he created havoc in the locker room after being lectured by the manager which excluded him from the first team for a while, because he thought himself as more important than his teammates; then out of spite he wanted to prove himself more important than the club by moving to a rival team, only to join back after barely a year with his tail between his legs. To complete the picture, at the end of his career he caused more trouble by suing the club that made him relevant, all because the sporting director clearly told him that he would play fewer games due to age.
      If he completely embarrassed himself in an unproven German club and is now rotting in the Turkish league like some overweight Brazilian looking for a quick cheque, it is because that dimension suits him really well.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pepe
    what is pique doing there?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is a strong bias against Portuguese and English players. I don't see many people saying Dias is a top 5 CB in the world right now even after winning a treble with City. No one thinks Stones is either.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dias is the second most valuable CB right now.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pique
    Everyone rated Pique, moron. Varane and Chiellini too

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People rated Pique for about 2 years, before that he was a Puyol babby and after that 2 years without him he became a laughing stock.
      Pique was the main player from the "old guard" of the golden Barca squad to receive hate.
      Not Biscuits, not Alba and not Messi. Pikek was the issue

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who were considered the best in the world? Just for comparisons sake as it will make it easier to rate these guys.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      During what time? OP posted defenders that all peaked multiple years apart. Pique peaked around 2012 and Silva peaked around 2017 just to paint a picture

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chiellini is a mediocre player who statpadded in a weak italian league

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He won the Euros, more than most Italian defenders can say from the last 15 years

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He bossed the euros you troglodyte

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never watched Varane at Madrid, but he's been a bum at Man Utd. Below average PL centre back, and he's not even that old.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1 on 1 defensive demon

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Varane is Van Dijk on estrogen

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Madrid don't let players leave if they're still good, he had been declining and got a bunch of injuries so they sold him.
      I'm struggling to think of a Madrid player that was sold during his prime years that left and had a good career elsewhere. Maybe Robben fits that criteria

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Robben got sold because he wasn't a Perez signing.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all 4 were great. i can see why varane is applauding them.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to be either moronic or underage to say Pique was a Puyol babby

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a Puyol and Mascherano baby, correct

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and Ramos baby 2012

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope you are underage

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the worst is Gerard Pique without debate
    >without debate
    what a moron lmao

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >insane longevity
    >Varane

    lmao what? he was shipped to united at the age of 28 (when a cb is just at the early stage of entering his prime) because madrid knew he was permacrocked. he's spent most of his time at united injured, which is why they're releasing him on a free even though he's only 31

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you put varane there and thought we wouldn't notice lol

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >no barzagli
    simply shant participate

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chiellini was considered the best CB in the world for a while. So was Thiago Silva.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Silva absolutely was in the mid 2010s, I think you can make a strong case for Chiellini during Juve’s 2016-19 run and before VVD’s rise.

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