A question to ex obese anons

Would you really consider obesity a "mental illness"? In the past years I've seen doctors refer to it as such, and saying that if you want to lose the weight and keep it of you'll have to be under treatment for the rest of your life as it is "chronic". However, is this really the case? I don't know what are the baselines for considering something a "mental illness" but I don't see anyone calling tobacco addiction or booze addiction a "mental illness", just "addictions". I honestly thought it was the same with obesity, simply an addiction to food, and one that you can break.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Obesity is a physical condition not related to mental thoughts. It has everything to do with hormones and cellular response and nothing to do with “will power”

    >t. Cured my obesity with necessary hormone therapy without changing my activity level or eating “habits”
    I used to be a class II obese with a 39 BMI. Now I’m thin and happy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing to do with will power

      He said ex-obese anons, moron.

      >I’m thin and happy

      Don’t lie, weak-willed pussy.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on if you were fat since a child due to moronic parents, or you got fat during adulthood when you had control over your body.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I went from 425lb to (literally 20 minutes ago) 255lb.

    No, it's not a mental illness. It's not genetics. It's pure, sheer hatred for yourself and lazyness.

    I hated myself, my body, my very being. So, I didn't take care of it. I was too lazy to go out and do things with my friends, much less visit the gym. I was lazy and a piece of shit.

    I was also struggling with self control and discipline. I'd eat sugary shit instead of real, actual meals. I'd down 6 apple fritters instead of eating chicken and broccoli. Just because it tasted better. Throughout the day, chugging mtn. Dew and eating frick loads of doritos. I was just a slob.

    When at 20 I had a stroke, I decided enough was enough. No more soda, no more sweets, and a gym membership. I was just a shotbag and horrible human being, focusing more on others than myself. I needed to give myself time. That was the deciding factor.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Oh yes very chronic, now check in with mister shekelstein every month and pay your $100 copay

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still obese, 333 -> 239 lbs, working on it tho. I dont think it's a mental illness, for me it was more apathy and a lack of consideration for the long term. I had no desire to be healthy, the consequences of my lifestyle didn't really bother me because I didn't think about them. There was no big event that prompted me to change per se, I started lifting and that lead me down the rabbit hole.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's more a failure in the brain to realize that something is wrong. Fat people don't realize that it can be life threatening so they don't make conscious efforts to avoid it. Like playing with a high power electrical panel without realizing that it can kill you. Sometimes it takes a shock to realize it and some need a more serious one than others. I hate referencing my dad because I love him, but he loves to cook and has little portion control. Oddly enough, he got fat and received his shock via a near heart attack. He went the quick route with a bypass and was rapidly losing weight but it's been gaining on him again. because the causal factors (mentality towards food and his sedentary lifestyle) haven't really been addressed. Every now and then, I prod and guilt him into going to the gym because he wants to finish the AT and paying $60/mo just to walk up and down the length of a pool is silly imo.
    My shock came from being 230lbs at 18yo and the past feat of having downed a 2' long by 1' wide stromboli by myself in a single sitting as a kid and still being able to down medium pizzas by myself in a sitting. I look at that with disgust and I get my ass into the gym.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think its a mental illness.

    1. Food tastes good.

    2. Its easy to sit in front of a screen and not work out.

    There are two points of failure here, and it only takes one to become obese, but failing at the first makes the second more likely to also fail.

    Its a lazy way out that seeks instant gratification, and can be very difficult to pull out of a bad cycle. Sometimes, it also gets away from you. If you are only over 100 calories every day, you will gain 10 pounds in a year. That's barely over maintenance. A lot of people have no idea how many calories they are putting in their face, or don't realize how bad their portion sizes are. Most people slowly gain weight over years without thinking about it, but it would also take a long time of "effort" to reverse the process, and that feels bad and when you see that you've only undone 2 months of fat gain in 1 month of work, you feel demoralized.

    Its a whole lot of things, and I mostly blame it on laziness, shitty food, and instant gratification. None of this is a mental illness, its just animal nature + downsides of advanced food development.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's a delusional thing. I thought I was fine, and just like everyone else. I was still getting laid so I didn't have that motivator. I even had a distrust of fit/lean people. Like they were somehow inauthentic because they were missing out on living. My concept of living was eating and drinking with no regard for anything. It helps that there's so few people that are fit in a chubby person's circle. I had that confirmation from friends and family who also were piling on the pounds and never exercising. I remember watching some dude run up a long hill and thought it looked cool, and for once decided that I wasn't too old to get fit. But I still didn't do anything really. Then shortly after that I was brushing my teeth with my shirt off and was astonished by all the jiggling. So I got strict about food and started jogging. I've kept that weight off for 20 years (I'm in my 50s now).

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a mental disease. It's a complete meltdown amd failure of your entire metabolic system. Once you're set on the path and you've wrecked your system then storing fat becomes easy and you just have to work at it with shit food. Just like an untrained man who starts going to the gym and puts his body into an anabolic and starts building muscle fatties go into a lardabolic mode. It's why everyone knows people who look like a stick and eat like garbage and don't gain a pound. Then you see them in ten years and they have jiggling margerine jowels and are shaped like an onion bulb. They just needed time to shut their system down.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >lardabolic mode

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Mental Illness in general is mostly bullshit, as is psych in general. Its just putting people in a majority/bucket and then saying to others "you need to be in this bucket". You can really classify just about anyone into some sort of mental health disorder if you really wanted to.

    I'm still overweight, but I was obese. Its just self discipline/hatred. Willpower beats everything. I will say its a lot easier to become obese these days than it was back in the boomers day. You have live a completely sedentary lifestyle no problem in 2022. More people had physical labor jobs and people walked more back in the day. Now with everything in suburbia and fast food chains everywhere and office jobs everyone can sit down and pig out all day.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've once weighted 92 kg at 1,73m tall, so that gave me a BMI of 30.7, which made me technically obese.

    As a matter of fact, it was a conjunction of factors. My mental health was down he shitter because I was unemployed and the pandemic only made it worse. So I just let myself go. But mainly it's lack of self worth combined with self-indulgence. Although I was obese I still thought that I looked good because "I've always looked good" and still had a hot gf then. Then I got dumped.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I was obese in my teens and early twenties. It was because I was a sperg with no social awareness + my mother never disciplined me or taught me basic grooming. I went to school smelling and rarely brushed my teeth. My hair was all fricked up and rarely got cut. I never showered properly (if at all) or wore deodorant. I used scissors to trim my beard instead of having an actual razor. Similarly, I ate whatever and whenever I wanted (95% fast food and snacks).

    Obesity isn't always 'food addiction' or 'mental illness'. For me it was a complete obliviousness to social norms and having no adult teach me how to bear myself. Obesity is a symptom of a variety of potential issues, not necessarily the issue itself. Every obese person has something wrong with them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It depends on if you were fat since a child due to moronic parents, or you got fat during adulthood when you had control over your body.

      https://i.imgur.com/ssviatq.jpg

      Would you really consider obesity a "mental illness"? In the past years I've seen doctors refer to it as such, and saying that if you want to lose the weight and keep it of you'll have to be under treatment for the rest of your life as it is "chronic". However, is this really the case? I don't know what are the baselines for considering something a "mental illness" but I don't see anyone calling tobacco addiction or booze addiction a "mental illness", just "addictions". I honestly thought it was the same with obesity, simply an addiction to food, and one that you can break.

      Just to throw out a strawman here. Lots of women gain weight during their 'pregnancy streak'. My wife had 3 in 4 years, and gained about 40lbs by the end of it. The doctors tell you to eat healthy and all that, but pregnancy cravings and hormones are something else, and you really aren't supposed to diet when pregnant. As I said here
      > Now with everything in suburbia and fast food chains everywhere and office jobs everyone can sit down and pig out all day.

      I definitely can understand why its easier to be fat without even realizing it, but other than women who just pumped out a few kids or maybe someone who is stuck working 80 hours a week just to make ends meet, I really don't have any other excuses I can think of. For 99% of people. If you're healthy. between 15-49 years old, and have at least 3 hours of free time a week you should be able to eat healthy, watch your calories, workout, and at least maintain a decent weight.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a mental illness. It's a combination of misinformation about how to lose weight allowed to be spread around and food environment. So food environment causes obesity, yes it does, nobody notices they are on path to being a fatty until they are. I didn't care jackshit about what I ate during college. If food environment had been healthy, I would not have had an opportunity to get fat in the first place. Then you get fat and realize it, and then you get bamboozled by diet grifters (most notably all the low-carb scammers) and spend even years following completely wrong advice. I did. At best crash diet and then rapid weight gain, no sustainable weight loss possible with those diets, they are designed to keep the sucker coming back to make more money out of suckers.

    So to really solve obesity crisis:
    1) fix the food environment, jail entire McDonalds leadership if you have to
    2) jail all the keto/carnivore/lowcarb grifters telling people to eat more calorie dense foods and burn their books on a bonfire

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Keto works and is sustainable.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Like with many problems, it can be caused by several things.
    1. Neglect as a child where the parents let you stuff your face because it kept you docile or your parents were just extremely stupid and thought eating carrots offset the calories from ice cream or some shit.
    2. Abuse or severe neglect as a child but you had access to all the goyslop you could desire so it was the one thing that gave you that dopamine hit that made you not feel like shit and forget that uncle Larry was raping you.
    3. You're literally moronic and think you don't eat inappropriately so it must be muh genetics.
    4. You're just a glutton and do not care.
    1 and 2 can definitely lead to mental health issues and if you learn to eat as a coping mechanism as a child, it will likely lead to the same in adulthood.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Obese here (33 bmi). I just like eating food and don't go outside much.
    If I had a reason to go outside more or participate in society I would go on a cut, because I don't like presenting myself as a fatass.
    Not sure I will get below 28 or 29 bmi but I will work on it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It’s not going On a cut you need to worry about just walk 10k steps a day, every day and eat slightly less. Easy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can walk that far and eat a ton less. I just have issues with caring about most things in my life, including health. Lifting is fun but getting gassed out on sets of 8 rep squats sucks.
        Just a moron who has been fat for a while, sometimes gets leaner, then fat again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >I just like eating food and don't go outside much
      >I don't like presenting myself as a fatass
      Me too and me neither. I've been asked by an obese girl "anon, where to you put all this food you eat?" at a party once. Easy: at home on an everyday basis I eat a lot, but mostly vegetable sides, tasty while not drowned in calories. I like feeling full and I know I can't afford that off pasta, fried foods, desserts etc without getting fat. I don't put the fork down, I put the calories down. I'm surprised to not hear about that more often. Have you tried it?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I might try that if I get desperate. Luckily I can pound some vegetables if I have a little meat/protein on it. Shit I used to have just spinach with sardines and it wasn't bad.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Making vegetables delicious while still lowish cal is a highly overlooked cooking skill IMO. Imagine pigging out on necessary protein and delicious sides till full while not putting weight on.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Dude, I wish I liked vegetables.

            People thought it was just a kid thing, but my tastes never changed. No matter how "well cooked", I've never liked them. There's a handful I can stomach, but there's none I would ever, ever describe as "delicious", or even good.

            Legit jealous of people who can eat salads and shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        IST things vegetables are posion and you should eat half a lb of bacon as a side dish

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's a physical symptom of a person's mental state, pathological or not. A depressed person who does no physical activity can get just as fat as a garden variety glutton. I would say that, as you get into the superfat my 600lb life tier fatties, the chance of mental illness being involved skyrockets

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I see it as a byproduct of mental illness rather than it's own specific thing. Arguing either way is semantics in my opinion though.
    Personally, my obesity was a result of my depression and self-hatred. I was punishing myself and trying to kill myself.

    Started making real attempts to get better and I'm down from 310lbs to 260 in 5 months.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I eat because I'm unhappy

      I'm unhappy, because I eat

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In mine, and my parents case, it's very clearly learned helplessness. When life continually shits on you and there is nothing you can do about a lot of the external circumstances, you end up with the belief that nothing you do will matter, and even if you try, you'll end up failing, either immediately, or slide back into it.
    The thing that got me out of it was unironically being scared of covid. Seeing the stats that fatties were dying at the same rate as retirees scared me enough to get started. down from ~25% to <16% BF now, and aiming for 14. Thanks, WHO.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I’m not sure I would call it mental illness like everyone would agree that drug addiction, schizophrenia, being a troony or gay, or anxiety is, BUT I would definitely and adamantly say that your body reflects what’s going on inside your head.

    I find it interesting because it’s absolutely true, but it’s a bit weird. You get depressed and anxious for X reason, end up obese due to how you cope, but now the only way to fix X reason is to start with physical health. I’ve exorcised it twice in my life. Start with getting lean and healthy, then it’s easier to tackle the initial X reason you got depressed. Not always true because we get depressed for different reasons and respond to it in different ways, but this is mostly the case.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Not going to read through all this thread but just thought i'd share my anecdotal advice i've lost a whole bunch of weight and I do kind of think I personally need to look at it like an addiction

    I'm pretty healthy now and allow myself treats and stuff but I can totally see the mentality that got me to be fat in the first place creeping back in when there are donuts or something in the office I have to stop myself and remind myself theres no need to eat more than one but if I just let loose i'd easily eat 3 consequences be damned

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Would you really consider obesity a "mental illness"?
    No, that's moronic. Most mental illness is just an excuse for shitty behavior and aggressive pharma marketing

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