>abs are made in the kitch-
Shut up. Just shut the frick up. I'm skinny as frick and still have ZERO abs.
>Compound training trains them enough bro
That's what IST said. Obviously they do not.
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Try doing an isolation dummy
DYEL as frick
You’re skinnyfat, not “skinny”. Forget about abs for now and concentrate on eating right and adding muscle.
I am shaken, I never knew I was a skinnyfat piece of shit. But I genuinely do not have any substantial fat anywhere I can tell, this is so weird. I only weight 64kg, my stomach is relatively flat, I don't have fat thighs or anything any in my arms I am sure that is muscle and not fat. Where is all that fricking fat?
Where are all the muscles?
I mean, I know I am DYEL as frick compared to "fitness influencers" or anons here, but I thought I am at at a solid "above average" category...
You have below average muscle development for an adult male. You have average fat. Together it works out to more fat relative to muscle than is typical
>You have below average muscle development for an adult male. You have average fat.
Why does this hurt so fricking bad, so I am working out just to be below average?
Nah you're definitely above average, average is someone who can't do 20 pushups in a row
I can't and I look like op
Stop whining and do something about it
>visible abs
Cut for a few months. Count calories and lift 3 times a week. Eat 150g protein every day.
>muscle mass
Bulk for a few years with intermittent cutting. Count calories and lift 5-6 times a week. Eat 150g of protein.
>b-but I can't eat that much protein
Pick foods that have lots of protein in them you moron. It's entirely possible to eat 200g with only 2000kcal
I'm struggling with protein the most by far. I live off welfare and meat here is 10+€ per kilogram. The cheapest whey protein is 26€ per kilogram. I get maybe 60, maximum 80g of protein daily...
The importance of protein is vastly overstated. Like 100g per day for OP is good enough.
You can get protein from things other than meat you moron. Heard of eggs, milk?
>lift 5-6 times a week
No rest?
The average male in the western world is a fatty.
Yes and so is op. He just doesn't have any muscle underneath to make it bulge out
You have body dysmorphia if you believe those arms are below average tbh
Mine are bigger and I am a skelly, most guys at my gym have bigger arms than me.
>skelly giving advice on IST
classic
What advice
Most big guys at the gym are roiding or on sarms
>Mine are bigger
Post em
You don't fricking know what average means. Imbecile.
he mogs the average normie keep coping
t. OP
>I thought I am at at a solid "above average" category
Homies workout routine is literally 5x high rep curls and nothing else.
You have reverse body dysmorphia
These are the people telling you to copy Arnold's routine
You have decent bicep development, and good potential. You are above average, but average is shit.
Anon I consider myself below average for someone who lifts you are no where near above average. Def skinny fat.
regardless, you should eat more and focus on exercising instead of giving a shit about your lack of abs.
I work out 3-4 times a week. But I have problems getting enough calories and protein, but apparently I need to eat less anyway.
What the frick do you want? If you just want abs, cut for 3 months by counting calories. If you wanna get big, bulk. But you need the same amount of protein and regular resistance training regardless.
This. Up your calories, train heavier, and put on some muscle first.
Chest, stomach, love handles.
If you're 20% bodyfat, that doesn't mean you have a lot of fat. You'd look like you'd have less if you had muscles, which you don't.
homie skinnyfat means you have no muscle mass, so you look soft despite being low bodyweight.
>genuinely do not have any substantial fat anywhere I can tell,
Stomach, chest, ass, thighs, upper arms. You've just never been skinny so it doesn't register as fat to your dumb fat brain.
also lower back and love handles for most guys
There are degrees to skinnyfat and its a meme to use for anyone that isnt perfectly slim. You arent skinnyfat. Dont worry too much about it. Just go for regular runs or something.
It’s over
Pinch your abdomen
If the skinfold is thicker than your ballsack you arent fricking lean
Sorry that growing up in Lardmerica has warped your perception of reality
>Pinch your abdomen
>If the skinfold is thicker than your ballsack you arent fricking lean
holy shit, how have I never thought of that
>skinny
>at 16%+ bodyfat
You're skinny fat, a.k.a you're a skellington covered by a layer of fat.
Bro you're skinnyfat. Trust me, fork put-downs till failure is the way.
>skinny as frick
no you arent
Not OP but his stomach is flat as frick, how is that skinnyfat?
He's around 20% bf, that's how
???
That's not 20% bf in that diagram
OP has zero muscular mass
that's not the only place fat gets stored. he's not skinny overall.
People hold their fact according to their genetics. He’s actually lucky not to store much fat in his abdominal region, but he’s 20%+ bf
"abs are made in the kitchen" works with the assumption that you already have a modicum of athleticism. It doesn't account for how pathetic the starting point is for today's virgin gamer boys.
Also you are still fat
20%+ bodyfat is genuinely fricking me up right now.
>I'm skinny as frick
Yes. But you are also fat. Your bf% is like 18. That's why the term "skinnyfat" exists.
If you actually cut for 3 months you'd see what I mean. But you won't. And honestly you probably shouldn't until you build more muscle anyway.
>>abs are made in the kitch-
>Shut up. Just shut the frick up
yes
>I'm skinny as frick
no
you gotta lose weight AND do some isolates
try lifting. It's pretty awesome.
Oh, and next time don't fall for the meme.
There is a reason bodybuilder isolate muscles.
There is a reason some powerlifters are DYEL tier. Figure it out.
OP:
>I'm look normal for an adult
Now that's body dysmorphia. Just because everyone around you looks like 100% shit and you look like 80% shit doesn't mean that you're normal.
Post your definitional of normal then homosexual.
This is easily achievable as a natty from 5 years of continuous lifting and staying at around 13-14% bodyfat. This is a "normal" male body by IST standards.
Normie standards are so low that they would say pic related is on roids.
Forgot to add that OPs body is considered "normal" nowadays - your typical office plankton male. No beer belly? Already a pass.
In reality OP looks like fricking shit.
If I'm lifting 5 (FIVE) years to look like that I'm ending it then and there, natties be straight clowning.
If you think pic related doesn't look good and fit, then you have mental issues and body dysmorphia. Too much YouTube and TikTok has rotten your zoomie brain (whatever was left of it, anyway).
Frick off back to /plg/, fatso.
>This is a "normal" male body by IST standards.
You're not the mouthpiece of IST, homosexual. Post body to see if I should even talk to you.
Looks like OP’s second pic what’s your point then
I look better than this in 4 years, one of which wasted with a hard cut
Good job on having a good program and pushing yourself.
This is your "natty" normal, which means that's what a guy who regularly lifts without going into too many details looks like. You can get bigger as a natty if you mixmax like an autist.
That is not normal you absolute delusional spastic.
how do I know if im skinny or skinny fat
just take a seat anon
you have zero muscle idiot, go to the gym first
Can confirm
Ah, the most muscular natural tallgay alive
You were suppose to eat food.
Also you have mild scoliosis.
Did you forget to eat fellow lanklet
how do I avoid looking like this dude lol
t. skinny lanklet starting to lift
>don't do meme routines (PPl/SS/roider brosplit)
>6-12 hypertrophy range
>eat
why does he look weird specifically
Because he's a lanklet and DYEL, I mean, look at the length of his torso.
The average Mr. Olympia height is 5'8, when they are the most "proportional".
Don't post s picture of yourself until you've been lifting and dieting consistently for at least two years
It's actually a decent body for someone who looks around 200cm tall.
Not saying you can do way better, but there's a good chance you'll never reach this point too.
You'll have to eat a shit ton basically.
after looking more I think it's cause his torso is proportionality long and his obliques or something seem small.
It's like he's missing a curve or angle change as his taper goes towards his adonis belt area.
pic is an average body for someone who's not obese
OP is very far from having a nice body, yes he's more fat that what he thinks, but sadly he's way above average
Disgusting.
you have over 20% bodyfat
no fricking shit you dont have abs moron
>abs are made in the kitch-
You still need to train them dumbass
>That's what IST said. Obviously they do not.
You know this board intentionally gives out bad advice just to troll newbies, right?
You have no definition. That is not muscle. You don't look at people with muscle and yourself and think "I don't look like that?". That lack of self awareness hardly seems possible. You genuinely need to lift a lot more.
>I'm skinny as frick
you are 20% bodyfat you delusional moron
You have too much fat to see abs, but you’re still skinny, as in too little muscle as well. You’ll need to improve both sides
homie you are skinnyfat. Of course you have no abs.
The saying should really be abs are unveiled in the kitchen, made in the gym.
>I'm skinny as frick
skinnyfat as frick
>skinny
>low bf%
My brother in Christ
You’ve earned the right to do crunches
Not that fricking hard to figure