they're mostly genetic, if you're predispositioned to store a lot of fat around your stomach you might never have abs, or you might just have extremely shallow separation, or uneven separation, good abs are relatively rare.
it's a cope. you need to do hanging leg raises, db leans, planks, on top of the usual heavy compound exercises for legs to get anything to show.
diet is assumed and shouldnt even need to be stated that you cant be an obese bruh girl fat fricking moron to have abs, however
cope
abs are muscles like any other, they're just more commonly covered in fat because most people carry fat around their midsection
some people just need to do heavy compounds, but most people need to hit them directly
then you need to diet down enough to show the muscles
it's like saying biceps are made in the kitchen
obviously if you're fat you won't be able to see separation and vascularity, but equally obvious is the fact that the muscle is made in the gym (+recovery)
Its like any muscle. You need to build it, your genetics dictate what they look like, and you need to be low enough bodyfat to see them. Surrounding musculature has an effect
My abs are more defined now at the top of my bulk than when I started because I actually started training them. This machine every session. 3 sets of 15 reps each side.
Abs are made in your mother's uterus. I'm just genetically blessed to not put on much fat ever and grew thick abs from doing light exercise as a child.
Abs are made in the gym and exposed in the kitchen. If you've never worked out, it doesn't matter how lean you are because you won't have enough muscle mass. But if you're fat you'll never see them either.
You need to actually workout your abs to add a certain amount of mass but you do need to be at a lower body fat for them to pop, but if you have no mass or tan they'll look like shit anyways.
Pretty much bullshit and cope but like most fitness adages there is always a kernal of truth to it. The implication of the advice being that "you probably have a nice 6 pack, you're just a lazy fatass who hasn't lost enough weight to show it under all that lard" It's tied in with that old dogma most of the fitness community espoused back in the day that you have to be 10% bf or lower to even hope to build a good 6 pack. I've seen guys on reddit at near 20% deca bodyfat that still show abs. If you want a more obvious and notable example though look at hafthor in game of thrones. You're gonna tell me that guy was sub 10% bodyfat? Like with any muscle group you can be genetically blessed and just have them be defined and with decent size without having to put hardly any work into them. A lot of guys get down to ridiculously low bodyfats trying to follow pic related advice only to be sorely dissapointed when they don't have a cut etched out 6 pack like Brad pit despite having essentially thin ass sub 10% bodyfat on their stomach when the reality is probably that their body catabolizes more muscle on the stomach than other body parts when they cut calories and lean out to that extent. In that sense it's almost a catch 22. The reality is, most guys in the 12% to high teen bodyfat range probably have a visible core and are better off targeting that muscle group more intensely. It's often just a matter of being able to develop those muscles at a body fat% that is low enough to show some basic definition but high enough to be able sustain protein synthesis. None of that requires that you go on any special diet or drastically alter your nutrition intake like the saying implies.
I've never really had abs. even when i got down close to 15% BF (but thats when i first started working out and never trained them).
Now i'm just trying to hit them every other day with a few sets of the ab wheel every other day in addition to my heavy compounds. During this cut i'm hoping something will show
Check'd. and kek'd. Also, Goy, is high in protein, rice their primary carb. carbs in general aren't particularly lipogenic. American carbs on the other hand... pastry, cakes etc etc is laced with fats. which is much easier to store as triglycerides.. being fat already.. Look into studies where they overfed one group carbs, vs another fat, Fat group stored significantly more as bodyfat than the carb group.
>T. eats well over 300g of carbs daily. Cuts on 200g Carbs
This is actually a well quantified thing. It isn't some magical mix of carbs and low fat, it isn't because they eat less either. There have been studies done on the prevalence of type 2 diabetes in Japanese people. The cause for inquest was that these type 2 diabetics are not obese, where as virtually all type 2 diabetics in the western world are. The reason? Asians have an identified genetic mechanism which causes them build internal visceral fat on their organs before they start packing on massive subcutaneous bodyfat.
Visible, in the way a body is visible when covered by a loose sweater.. i'm tired of spreading shit, and being hyperbolical. i've been calling people moronic homosexual Black folk for minor things on this site for over a decade. you've got some fat to lose, i wouldn't go around saying you've got a 4 pack. keep it up and YGMI one day.
I know I've got more to lose. I'm eating maintenance for a bit because of an upcoming powerlifting meet. It's just sort of an interesting point about fat distribution.
>body removed my arm, thigh, and ass fat first before removing my stomach and hip fat
Yes.. for males, abdominal and lower back fat are the first to come on, last to come off. like a roll of paper towel, you gotta get through the outside before you get to take sheets from the end.
proof: pic related is 108lbs and he doesn't have the slightest indicator of visible abs. if you want your abs to show, you need to train them and actually have muscles. same with every other muscle group. you are going to have nice looking biceps at a way higher bodyfat if you have big fricking biceps.
this
the only people that promote this moronic "abs are built in the kitchen" bullshit that have abs themselves are people who already have developed abs either due to taking anabolic drugs for years which make your body grow all around or trained their abs hard when they were younger and are now just maintaining
How to have abs: >simple ab workouts
How to have abs you can see: >simple ab workouts >reduce your BF%
Simply eating doesn't give you abs, that's one of the dumbest misconceptions in fitness (that you can eat your way to fitness) it's just saying hey you need to be not fat to have muscle definition
Like literally any muscle it’s a mix of both. Guess what, if you’re fat you can still have big biceps. But you won’t see the cleft and outline as cleanly as if you were shredded. Same goes for quads. Same goes for abs, same goes for literally everything
The only reason people don’t have visible abs is 1 they’re fat-coping to get higher lifts. 2 they don’t train abs as hard as other muscles because training abs is boring as frick
Cope
they're mostly genetic, if you're predispositioned to store a lot of fat around your stomach you might never have abs, or you might just have extremely shallow separation, or uneven separation, good abs are relatively rare.
Yep this is me. I've got veins on my legs but still fat on my stomach
it's a cope. you need to do hanging leg raises, db leans, planks, on top of the usual heavy compound exercises for legs to get anything to show.
diet is assumed and shouldnt even need to be stated that you cant be an obese bruh girl fat fricking moron to have abs, however
cope
abs are muscles like any other, they're just more commonly covered in fat because most people carry fat around their midsection
some people just need to do heavy compounds, but most people need to hit them directly
then you need to diet down enough to show the muscles
it's like saying biceps are made in the kitchen
obviously if you're fat you won't be able to see separation and vascularity, but equally obvious is the fact that the muscle is made in the gym (+recovery)
That was a lot of words to just say "Abs are made in the gym, exposed in the kitchen"
/thread
obviously you need to work on your abs but you can have the strongest core in the planet, if you don't eat right they will never show.
I lost 10kg/22pounds of fat, got to 10% and got abs within 3 months of cutting.
I do weighted hanging leg raises though.
>base very baseline muscle development
>cut body fat down
>visible popping abs
There is nothing more to it.
True
It's not true, because you still have to develop them like any other muscle. The fact is that you will not SEE them if you're fat, and that's a fact.
Its like any muscle. You need to build it, your genetics dictate what they look like, and you need to be low enough bodyfat to see them. Surrounding musculature has an effect
My abs are more defined now at the top of my bulk than when I started because I actually started training them. This machine every session. 3 sets of 15 reps each side.
My old Gym had this machine. I feel kinda nostalgic.
Either in the kitchen or lack of kitchen
Abs are made in your mother's uterus. I'm just genetically blessed to not put on much fat ever and grew thick abs from doing light exercise as a child.
So, what exercises do you guys recommend then?
Abs are made in the gym and exposed in the kitchen. If you've never worked out, it doesn't matter how lean you are because you won't have enough muscle mass. But if you're fat you'll never see them either.
You need to actually workout your abs to add a certain amount of mass but you do need to be at a lower body fat for them to pop, but if you have no mass or tan they'll look like shit anyways.
Pretty much bullshit and cope but like most fitness adages there is always a kernal of truth to it. The implication of the advice being that "you probably have a nice 6 pack, you're just a lazy fatass who hasn't lost enough weight to show it under all that lard" It's tied in with that old dogma most of the fitness community espoused back in the day that you have to be 10% bf or lower to even hope to build a good 6 pack. I've seen guys on reddit at near 20% deca bodyfat that still show abs. If you want a more obvious and notable example though look at hafthor in game of thrones. You're gonna tell me that guy was sub 10% bodyfat? Like with any muscle group you can be genetically blessed and just have them be defined and with decent size without having to put hardly any work into them. A lot of guys get down to ridiculously low bodyfats trying to follow pic related advice only to be sorely dissapointed when they don't have a cut etched out 6 pack like Brad pit despite having essentially thin ass sub 10% bodyfat on their stomach when the reality is probably that their body catabolizes more muscle on the stomach than other body parts when they cut calories and lean out to that extent. In that sense it's almost a catch 22. The reality is, most guys in the 12% to high teen bodyfat range probably have a visible core and are better off targeting that muscle group more intensely. It's often just a matter of being able to develop those muscles at a body fat% that is low enough to show some basic definition but high enough to be able sustain protein synthesis. None of that requires that you go on any special diet or drastically alter your nutrition intake like the saying implies.
I've never really had abs. even when i got down close to 15% BF (but thats when i first started working out and never trained them).
Now i'm just trying to hit them every other day with a few sets of the ab wheel every other day in addition to my heavy compounds. During this cut i'm hoping something will show
Cope
>never seen a kitchen, survives on air
This is why I don't understand Asian genetics. Onions, rice, and carbs. Yet have very low body fat.
They eat less in general.
Check'd. and kek'd. Also, Goy, is high in protein, rice their primary carb. carbs in general aren't particularly lipogenic. American carbs on the other hand... pastry, cakes etc etc is laced with fats. which is much easier to store as triglycerides.. being fat already.. Look into studies where they overfed one group carbs, vs another fat, Fat group stored significantly more as bodyfat than the carb group.
>T. eats well over 300g of carbs daily. Cuts on 200g Carbs
Carbs won't make you fat unless you're mixing them with far or eating ridiculous portions daily.
This is actually a well quantified thing. It isn't some magical mix of carbs and low fat, it isn't because they eat less either. There have been studies done on the prevalence of type 2 diabetes in Japanese people. The cause for inquest was that these type 2 diabetics are not obese, where as virtually all type 2 diabetics in the western world are. The reason? Asians have an identified genetic mechanism which causes them build internal visceral fat on their organs before they start packing on massive subcutaneous bodyfat.
need to know how to achieve this physique
Sacrifice your band of friends to the gods
Do a shitton of exercise and never eat. Done.
Take tren but don't work out
12x throw downs and 12x screamos
Rolling 72 fasts
GGGGRRRRIIFFFIIITTTHH!!!
You honestly look like Griffith. Just dye your hair silver, don't try to rape the tanned tomboy gf of your bestfriend.
Depends on metabolism
I am still fat but have 4 top visible abs. Idk bro shit makes no sense to me. kitchen, genes, and squatting.
>but have 4 top visible abs.
Do i really need to say it fren?
Hit me w/ it chief
You really don't know what your ribs are?
those are abdominal muscles moron, I can see them.
Uhhhh no they're ribs
Visible, in the way a body is visible when covered by a loose sweater.. i'm tired of spreading shit, and being hyperbolical. i've been calling people moronic homosexual Black folk for minor things on this site for over a decade. you've got some fat to lose, i wouldn't go around saying you've got a 4 pack. keep it up and YGMI one day.
I know I've got more to lose. I'm eating maintenance for a bit because of an upcoming powerlifting meet. It's just sort of an interesting point about fat distribution.
go on a serious calorie deficit for a few weeks to lose the fat. just eat protein and veggies
I already lost about 100 lbs. I'm sitting at maintenance for a bit because of a powershitter meet. Dieting like that is moronic though, kys.
>start cutting
>lose 20 lbs
>still no visible abs
>body removed my arm, thigh, and ass fat first before removing my stomach and hip fat
Frick this body
>body removed my arm, thigh, and ass fat first before removing my stomach and hip fat
Yes.. for males, abdominal and lower back fat are the first to come on, last to come off. like a roll of paper towel, you gotta get through the outside before you get to take sheets from the end.
The amount of nonsense on this board is ridiculous. What happened to my fit?
True
Lower your body fat percentage and your abs will show
I've seen anorexic guys with abs
Also, do the stomach vacuum
anyone that answers the OP with a yes is a moronic homosexual dyel
100% cope
proof: pic related is 108lbs and he doesn't have the slightest indicator of visible abs. if you want your abs to show, you need to train them and actually have muscles. same with every other muscle group. you are going to have nice looking biceps at a way higher bodyfat if you have big fricking biceps.
this
the only people that promote this moronic "abs are built in the kitchen" bullshit that have abs themselves are people who already have developed abs either due to taking anabolic drugs for years which make your body grow all around or trained their abs hard when they were younger and are now just maintaining
>Tfw you never saw your own abs
60/40 split it's true for maybe intermediate to advanced lifters who do some amount of core work it's not true for anyone else.
How to have abs:
>simple ab workouts
How to have abs you can see:
>simple ab workouts
>reduce your BF%
Simply eating doesn't give you abs, that's one of the dumbest misconceptions in fitness (that you can eat your way to fitness) it's just saying hey you need to be not fat to have muscle definition
>Simply eating doesn't give you abs
literally NOBODY says this you fricking cretin.
Like literally any muscle it’s a mix of both. Guess what, if you’re fat you can still have big biceps. But you won’t see the cleft and outline as cleanly as if you were shredded. Same goes for quads. Same goes for abs, same goes for literally everything
The only reason people don’t have visible abs is 1 they’re fat-coping to get higher lifts. 2 they don’t train abs as hard as other muscles because training abs is boring as frick