Achivable without roiding?

I’d say my physique is actually better than MBJ on the left, do you think he did roids to get like this>>>? His bodytipe looks different to me, ectomorph on the left and mesomorph on the right. I’m ectomorph.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes with good genes
    no otherwise

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This
      > do you think he did roids to get like this
      yes,I would think a person looking like this roids
      It takes years of effort + better than average genes,its just too much.
      I would say at the 2 year mark you will be somewhat close ,but still not there,maybe in 3-4 years natty.
      Again most people are just gonna train going by feel without much precision and arent going to have a perfect diet + sleep so they will never look like this,not even in 10 years,unless they roid of course.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I mean, he did it very fast.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn’t looks like good genes in first pic

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >His bodytipe looks different to me, ectomorph on the left and mesomorph on the right. I’m ectomorph.
    who the fuck is convincing zoomers that this shit is real?

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do most nigs are mouth breathers?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Definitely achievable natty in 5 years

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post physique

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not achievable. 0% chance. I’m guessing his cycle was fairly heavy doses

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is me btw, I’m 3 months lifting
    >bluhbluhbluh you’re Brown

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3 months
      Well some people never get bigger than this after years of training so if true those are top tier genetics,as in elite you should be playing proffesional sports genetics.
      Yes you can achieve OP transformation in less than 2 years.
      Lets be real you had a base before right? like you have always been an active sports playing dude,who prob also did pushups/pullups,etc.
      Still good genetics,Can achieve op transfomation natty maybe in 4 years

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m OP, I think MBJ looked like me in the past, that’s why he is what I aim at. Thank you for the things you’ve said, I’m really happy you think this way. I haven’t been active in sports actually, but I wish to be. In 2018 - 2019 I lifted for 8 months and then I had to stop because I couldn’t afford the gym anymore and I started this year again, but when I started in 2018 I swear I was even worse than MBJ on the left pic. Really skinny. I’ve trained Muay Thai for a couple months too and fighting is probably the thing I like the most in my life. Again, I had to stop it because of money. But now I have the money to do it, I’ll keep lifting everyday until next year, then I’ll go back to Muay Thai and I’ll start BJJ while lifting 3x a week. For the first time I’ll afford the costs, I was a kid before and I could do only half-time jobs. So yeah, I like some sports but unfortunately I couldn’t do it for real until now. Anyway, thanks my friend, I’m really surprised with what you’ve said about my genetics because I always thought it was otherwise.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >that belly
      go easy on the eating.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks man, I was trying to reach 80kg, so I was really eating much. I started cardio last week, I’m losing bodyfat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      HAHAHA Amerimutt who only works chest HAHAha nice tits

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I’m Brazilian. I do chest 2x a week as usual

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Brazilian
          What's the difference?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i never understood how people work out and get proper nutrition to do so in other nations, am i just being lied to by ~~*them*~~ about other places being squalid 3rd world shit holes?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look man, if you have a job here you can do gym and buy nutritional food. The Brazilian regular meal is rice and beans with meat (or eggs, if you’re not good with money) - which is a very nutritive meal, despite not being that tasty as McDonalds or whatever people eat so much in richer countries. The thing is that when you have a family and your wife don’t work, it gets really hard. Imagine you having to buy food for your kids, wife, pay the ~~*rent*~~, energy, water, etc. That is something expensive in any country, I guess. But there’s much families in this situation here, that’s what I’m saying. I saved money enough from my last job to buy some hard mass powder, Creatine, etc. But I’m a 20yo single man, so I only need to worry about myself

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              thats literally a mirror image of my life and diet, im actually eating left over chicken and eggs right now that i cooked last week. maybe its just different in the wage, i cover my weekly food budget with 5 hours of work. do you have to spend a shit ton of your wages on food or is food cheap there too?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > or is food cheap there too?
                I wouldn’t know how to compare it. But people work 8 hours or more here to get the regular wage. I only worked 5 hours when I was in high school, that’s what I called half time job.
                The regular wage in Brazil is R$1200 (reais) if you work 8 hours. The employer is obligated to pay at least this quantity by law, so they usually just pay this if you have only high school education (which is the case with most people here). You can convert 1k2 reais to dollars and see how it goes

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                1200R per day for 8 hrs? if so that is fucking insane dude, i make 3600R a week for 40 hours here in the usa. meaning after 5 hours on the first day ive already made enough to eat for a week.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > if so that is fucking insane dude
                Lol, welcome to Brazil.
                The funny part is that you’re like the top 1 on agro exportation and we are the top 2. Lots of money exporting food. It still doesn’t make any difference in our lives here.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dios mio, those digits....

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, this was my favorite character when I was a kid, I can’t avoid laughing with these videos. Yep, based digits 😀

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blublubluh, you're insecure

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do so many blacks have this face

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you have to mew to fix this and do a duck face

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black people have difference bone structure. Look up any famous attractive black and they likely don’t have a chin that juts. Not as bad as MBJ’s. The secret behind recessed chins looking terrible is that it forms a weak angle, the nose protrudes far beyond the chin making you look like a rat. Black chins are still typically in line with the nose because their jaw sticks out a bit in general. MBJ looks worse than usual because he’s got a giant garden gnome tier nose

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do non white men have such feminine facial traits as well and I remember when all the woman were coping about him being the hottest man lol it was mostly ugly roasties and white woman that liked him

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn Wallace got big.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >His bodytipe looks different to me, ectomorph on the left and mesomorph on the right. I’m ectomorph.
    mmmmh almost like somatotypes are bullshit

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wish you’re right, I don’t like so much determinism

      No unless you're like 5'5

      Yeah, I met a short guy with his physique, but I don’t wish to be that short

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No unless you're like 5'5

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >His bodytipe looks different to me, ectomorph on the left and mesomorph on the right.
    it’s called anglefrauding, son, MPMD did a video on him, he’s not actually that impressive irl

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Might be, but is still very aesthetic even not being that big. I’ll search this video

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >aesthetic
        what makes someone aesthetic do you think?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A good proportion of shoulders/arms and a large chest, I’d say. But of course the guy’s face counts, if that’s what you’re implying with your question, you know what I meant when I said that

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no I’m moreso asking if you think endomorphs like Dave Draper look good 😀

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ofc his body is nice, but I wouldn’t wish to be an endomorph, it’s much harder to keep your body like this. Isn’t it? The owner of my gym is an endomorph and he only get this aesthetic when he is up to competing, usually he just look huge but a little fat, I personally don’t like it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Isn’t it?
                I’m trying to diet down to 10% rn, but apparently appetite and whether or not you feel depleted at a lower bfp are two separate things. I’ve built up such self discipline through calorie counting that I’m sure I could do it, most endomorphs are just lazy. Heck it’s gotten to the point where I enjoy being hungry, because I know that means it’s working.
                The reason I asked tho was because some people think having a super broad chest is less aesthetic, not that I give much of a shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > having a super broad chest is less aesthetic
                I think is the most aesthetic part of the man’s body. As I said, I’m an ectomorph, when I was lifting in the past I had this huge chest, so even being skinny and on clothes my body would look somewhat athletic, that was the time when I had female attention the most. Still today my friend jokes with me about my chest during that time. So a large chest is very important in my opinion on aesthetics. And I’m happy you’re having a good time being disciplined with your diet, keep it up. The endomorph’s body with low bodyfat looks really great. WAGMI

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                thanks fren. And don’t stop eating! WAGMI

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only people who find him hot are ugly white woman fat white woman and ghetto woman and Because he is mixed and has white features

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