After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
>t. 2 month beginner
After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises. >t. 2 month beginner
After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
>t. 2 month beginner
>increasing the size of your delts and triceps is trash for aesthetics
>destroys your shoulder blades
it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise
this thread is sunken cost fallacy at it's finest
just admit you have been memed to death into struggling with a useless exercise
>it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise
so dumb bells?
OHP is fine. It’s the people who do it that are bad, not the exercise itself.
People lift OHP like a powerlifter trying to max out weight, and then wonder why they aren’t growing. Full ROM, slow eccentric, pause just above the chest without resting the bar on your chest/shoulders, for 5x10.
Your goal shouldn’t be to lift heavy if you want to grow, your goal should be to annihilate the shoulders and triceps and then add weight if you make all your reps.
Why can't you rest the bat on your chest
So you don’t relax. It doesn’t matter that much, but if you’re trying to grow, this is just one of the things you can do. I’m more concerned about slow eccentric and pausing at the bottom.
If the bar isn't touching your chest at the end of each rep. Its not a rep!
That's like saying a soft lockout or bending your knees counts as a rep. Ridiculous!
>t 2pl8 ohp for reps
Can you post shoulders anon? Im curious what a 2pl8 ohp makes them look like
I can only imagine how jacked you look. I’m over here pleased with my gains and I’m doing a pl8 + 5 4x8. You’re a monster.
You can just have it hover above your chest by like 1 cm or even just lightly touch without resting the bar onto your chest.
seconding this
Post video.
inb4 standing incline bench
>without resting the bar on your chest/shoulders
why not?
i rest on my chest before each rep
it restarts the motion
Because some people want to grow using the OHP instead of just moving the most weight, and that was a suggestion for how they could make it hypertrophy oriented.
how is not making full reps the most hypertrophy oriented way to do it?
non-stop reps (no pauses) would train more endurance i think
Nta but consistent tension on the muscle produces better hypertrophy results than mini rests between each rep
>5x10
post body NOW
>it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise
So that means it's good
OHP has HEALED my shoulders. Kys retard. Do them with weight you can actually use instead of trying to 1RM on it.
>destroys your shoulder blades
You have trash genetics. Nobody destroys their shoulder blades with the ohp
shut the fuck up, gay. i've competed in powerlifting meets, who the fuck are you?
>who the fuck are you?
Someone who isn't a retard with glass shoulders like you, apparently
my condolences on the diabetes and morbid obesity
Well it's not.
It's an accessory to the bench retard.
Bench is only hyped by powershitters because they've made it one of the "big 3" and their non-sport spends a lot of time on it. Bench is only a standard in body building because it can build huge pecs. Any coach for any sport outside of powershitting and bodybuilding would prefer that you have an large OHP over a large bench if you had to pick one since OHP is more indicative of overall upper body pushing strength from an unstable position.
good thing we don't have to choose
>After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
Typical IST user. Why don't you put down the books and pick up some weights
But anon, he's been doing this for TWO MONTHS!
Don't do it then gay, no one gives a fuck that you'll have girl shoulders for the rest of your life.
how are you a 2 month beginner and youre not already doing ohp as a part of your routine? are you retarded? do stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell lifts down then branch off once youve done that for a couple months, dont post here again until youve done so
>doing ohp as a part of your routine?
I am. I just read that there are better
exercises out there for shoulders.
>stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell
My routine ends after 3 month mark.
There are safer exercises that achieve similar results. Lifting things vertically is dangerous if you don't have good thoracic mobility.
Still safer than bench press.
>just read that there are better
>exercises out there for shoulders.
then why are you asking for them instead of doing what whatever you read says
>do stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell lifts down!
>t. 2 month beginner
Shut the fuck up and just lift the weights you fucking idiot.
You will never pass regardless but I got you
>3x10 lateral raises with 1-2kg. This will tone your shoulders without getting them big and manly
>3x10 facepulls with light weight also
>unilateral db raises with pink dumbbells 2x8
This should get you the aesthetics that you want. Best of luck OP
>2 month beginner
>thinks his opinions matter
>t. 2 month beginner
Damn bro chill out, give it at least a year before you form an opinion.
what have you read about it that makes it "trash for aesthetics"?
> "trash for aesthetics"?
It's not trash, but I've read/seen that there are better exercises out there.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23096062/
>. In conclusion, the exercise with the greatest stability requirement (standing and dumbbells) demonstrated the highest neuromuscular activity of the deltoid muscles, although this was the exercise with the lowest 1-RM strength.
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I actually like the OHP btw, but I am focused on maximizing my time for physique. I guess I'll change my routine after I finish my 3 month beginner routine and add dumb bells.
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Wish I saved the jpeg of the skinny fat dyel talking to chad about all the supplements he’s taking. Just do the lifts gay
>Just do the lifts gay
I will. I'll just switch to a different lift.
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Dumbbell press are good
shut the fuck up you fucking dyel don't post on my board until you can 1/2/3/4 for sets of 8
research
Dumbbell presses, lateral raises, and facepulls are probably best for shoulders.
People who can't press a decent weight always find a way to cope. If you can't press 185 you aren't even a man really.
>always find a way to cope.
Not a cope. I would continue to do it if there were no better exercises. There are better exercises.
Which ones?
There aren't any better exercises you dumb moron.
>you dumb moron.
Do you see this post?
Dumbbells are slightly better for all exercises because they require more stabilization but the effect is minimal and it starts to become a problem when heavy weights and small increments are required.
Overall, not a big difference or worth worrying about.
prompting all OHP haters to post body right now
only fucking DYELs give a shit about muh micro optimization
just do the fucking lifts people have been doing for centuries, if they didn't work we'd know by then
Good for you. Still, OHP & deadlift are more dangerous than other lifts that can achieve similar results and that you don't need to have great mobility and immaculate form to do them without injury risk (long term)
>OHP
>dangerous
????
If you injure yourself on OHP you're an actual moron, it's one of the safest compounds out there. Even BTNP is much safer than most compounds IMO
>If you injure yourself on OHP you're an actual moron, it's one of the safest compounds out there.
I got a sprained wrist from doing them. Went for PR and next day my hand was fucked.
>Went for PR
how many reps?
i want to see what kind of retarded things makes people injured
You're pressing with your wrists bent all the way back aren't you? Fix that shit and you'll be fine lol. If you're pressing with stacked wrists then just use wrist wraps when you're going heavy, ez fix. Bench is a lot worse in this regard due to the heavier weights tbh, this shouldn't be a problem on OHP for people who aren't exotically strong.
you forgot to bench press
only gays like big titty chests
>t. can't bench 2pl8
Worrying about whether people think your chest is too big or not is such feminine behaviour. Real men don't give a fuck
I like to OHP and it has definitely made my shoulders and traps more defined. I don’t know what you’re smoking.
It is a great upper body strength exercise, you'll never be aesthetic as a 2 month beginner without building up your strength first. youll be back in another two months crying about how little muscle you've gained, you're just one of those guys who is not going anywhere I can tell.
Incline bench
Incline dumbbell press
Sitting dumbbell press
>exercises
they're lifts, gay.
I switched to seated OHP because I didn't like how it made my lower back feel the heavier I went. I can't maintain propper form as well so it's better for me.
Use a belt / learn to tighten your core
Would probably be worth the try. Currently satisfied with seated, don't see any negatives from it atm.
Standing trains more muscles, longer kinetic chain
I’ve been out for about a month after tweaking my neck doing this exercise. Anyone have any advice on how not to hurt my neck while doing OHP? I’m not dyel; I was doing 185lbs for reps when the injury happened. This neck problem hasn’t been an issue until recently for me with OHP.
Oh sweet the OHP schizo is back
Keep seething shoulder manlet
I bet it's only because you little girls arms can't handle the barbell
>lovely weather
>OHP day
>bring it outside
>pause workout to browse fit cause why not
>see thread
I get insane ab doms when OHPing on grass
Incredibly basado
based retard
Set up from a rack, this is why you press 85
OHp is literally the best movement ever
Oh look, a newb tard looksmaxxer.
Do them gay, doing it for a couple months will shred a lot of your upper body.
Source: I did them yesterday and look fucking awesome
Wow I REALLY value what a 2 month lifter has to say about one of the most aesthetic physique building lifts. Please tell me more
>Give me better exercises
>Dumbbell shoulder press on incline bench
>Any variety of lateral or y raise
>Any well designed shoulder press machine
Ohp is necessary for oly lifters and strongman. Other than that it's trash.
None of these lifts are needed. Just pin and do some pushups variations every day.
I thought this post was a meme at first, that you were mocking people who suggested worse exercises.
Probably because you fell for the ohp meme and don't realise there's a reason actual jacked bodybuilders are doing isolation exercises that you think are a meme.
Heavy benching will explode front delts, you are only limiting your gains by not letting delts recover with this powersharter meemee.
>That form
Anyway, it's not trash, especially if you've only been lifting for 2 months.
You're likely not pressing enough. Just press with good form and alternate reps each workout, then do a decent load of accessory volume. Lateral raises for example.
It is utter garbage. The entire point of barbell lifts is to max out weight and shock on the body. But guess what, the average person can dumbbell ohp more than they can with a barbell. Literally no point in ever doing barbell ohp
Because most people half rep on DB ohp retard. Rotate the dumbbells to neutral and go all the way down; you won't be able to lift anywhere near as much weight as with a barbell
>But guess what, the average person can dumbbell ohp more than they can with a barbell
Because they half-rep, retard
Because when people DB press they bring the weights down along the sides of their heads where the bulk of the dumbbell stops your ROM from going past eye level. AKA skipping the hardest part of the lift.
DB pressers are half reppers, simple as
step aside dyels, this is the greatest chest/shoulders exercise of all time
>i've been lifting for 2 months
>this lift sounds trash for aesthetics!
>86 replies
great board we have here
>Give me better exercises
Sitting smith machine ohp with back support. Strongmen and Meadows (RIP) swear by it
t. 115kg ohp
Are you retarded?
Why does nobody talk about the fact that when you OHP with a barbell, you can actually easily make sure that both shoulders are pressing symetrically on the same plane. When I see people do DB presses, 90% of the time it's at least a little lopsided
Because DB press (unilateral) actually addresses the problem while BB press hides it
You should only be allowed opinions on OHP when and IF you press 60kg for reps. Which 99% of IST cant do because dyel
BTN press.
do it seated for 8s
How should I implement OHP into my training? I usually like to do one compound for 3x5 before doing isolation exercises, so should I do OHP 3x5 on one of my chest days? I already only lift heavy on my bench press on one of my chest days so I could easily put OHP in on the other. Or would 3x8-12 be better? I'm fairly dyel so maybe my stats will help you guys decide (All numbers are for 3x5) .7/1.25/2/2.5
>.7/1.25/2/2.5
whatre these numbers?
I've found that 3x5 is pretty bad for OHP. I started to alternate between 3-4 sets of 6-8 and my progress blew me away. I also treat OHP as my most important lift (imo if you want to look good you should as well, most nattys have shitty shoulders even despite years of gymcelling). Always put it first in your routine, it's much more taxing than bench press and do it 2-3 times a week if you can