After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises. >t. 2 month beginner

After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
>t. 2 month beginner

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >increasing the size of your delts and triceps is trash for aesthetics

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
      Typical IST user. Why don't you put down the books and pick up some weights

      >destroys your shoulder blades

      it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise

      this thread is sunken cost fallacy at it's finest
      just admit you have been memed to death into struggling with a useless exercise

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise
        so dumb bells?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        OHP is fine. It’s the people who do it that are bad, not the exercise itself.

        People lift OHP like a powerlifter trying to max out weight, and then wonder why they aren’t growing. Full ROM, slow eccentric, pause just above the chest without resting the bar on your chest/shoulders, for 5x10.

        Your goal shouldn’t be to lift heavy if you want to grow, your goal should be to annihilate the shoulders and triceps and then add weight if you make all your reps.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why can't you rest the bat on your chest

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So you don’t relax. It doesn’t matter that much, but if you’re trying to grow, this is just one of the things you can do. I’m more concerned about slow eccentric and pausing at the bottom.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              If the bar isn't touching your chest at the end of each rep. Its not a rep!
              That's like saying a soft lockout or bending your knees counts as a rep. Ridiculous!
              >t 2pl8 ohp for reps

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you post shoulders anon? Im curious what a 2pl8 ohp makes them look like

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can only imagine how jacked you look. I’m over here pleased with my gains and I’m doing a pl8 + 5 4x8. You’re a monster.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can just have it hover above your chest by like 1 cm or even just lightly touch without resting the bar onto your chest.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Can you post shoulders anon? Im curious what a 2pl8 ohp makes them look like

                seconding this

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Post video.
                inb4 standing incline bench

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >without resting the bar on your chest/shoulders
          why not?
          i rest on my chest before each rep
          it restarts the motion

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Because some people want to grow using the OHP instead of just moving the most weight, and that was a suggestion for how they could make it hypertrophy oriented.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              how is not making full reps the most hypertrophy oriented way to do it?
              non-stop reps (no pauses) would train more endurance i think

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nta but consistent tension on the muscle produces better hypertrophy results than mini rests between each rep

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >5x10
          post body NOW

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it's been long established on IST that the OHP is a trash exercise
        So that means it's good

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        OHP has HEALED my shoulders. Kys moron. Do them with weight you can actually use instead of trying to 1RM on it.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >destroys your shoulder blades
        You have trash genetics. Nobody destroys their shoulder blades with the ohp

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          shut the frick up, homosexual. i've competed in powerlifting meets, who the frick are you?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >who the frick are you?
            Someone who isn't a moron with glass shoulders like you, apparently

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            my condolences on the diabetes and morbid obesity

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well it's not.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's an accessory to the bench moron.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bench is only hyped by powershitters because they've made it one of the "big 3" and their non-sport spends a lot of time on it. Bench is only a standard in body building because it can build huge pecs. Any coach for any sport outside of powershitting and bodybuilding would prefer that you have an large OHP over a large bench if you had to pick one since OHP is more indicative of overall upper body pushing strength from an unstable position.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        good thing we don't have to choose

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >After reading more about this, this shit sounds trash for aesthetics. Give me better exercises
    Typical IST user. Why don't you put down the books and pick up some weights

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      But anon, he's been doing this for TWO MONTHS!

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Don't do it then homosexual, no one gives a frick that you'll have girl shoulders for the rest of your life.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    how are you a 2 month beginner and youre not already doing ohp as a part of your routine? are you moronic? do stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell lifts down then branch off once youve done that for a couple months, dont post here again until youve done so

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >doing ohp as a part of your routine?
      I am. I just read that there are better
      exercises out there for shoulders.
      >stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell
      My routine ends after 3 month mark.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        There are safer exercises that achieve similar results. Lifting things vertically is dangerous if you don't have good thoracic mobility.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Still safer than bench press.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >just read that there are better
        >exercises out there for shoulders.
        then why are you asking for them instead of doing what whatever you read says

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >do stronglifts and get the 5 basic barbell lifts down!

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >t. 2 month beginner
    Shut the frick up and just lift the weights you fricking idiot.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will never pass regardless but I got you
    >3x10 lateral raises with 1-2kg. This will tone your shoulders without getting them big and manly
    >3x10 facepulls with light weight also
    >unilateral db raises with pink dumbbells 2x8

    This should get you the aesthetics that you want. Best of luck OP

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >2 month beginner
    >thinks his opinions matter

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >t. 2 month beginner
    Damn bro chill out, give it at least a year before you form an opinion.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    what have you read about it that makes it "trash for aesthetics"?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      > "trash for aesthetics"?
      It's not trash, but I've read/seen that there are better exercises out there.

      >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23096062/
      >. In conclusion, the exercise with the greatest stability requirement (standing and dumbbells) demonstrated the highest neuromuscular activity of the deltoid muscles, although this was the exercise with the lowest 1-RM strength.

      ?t=385

      I actually like the OHP btw, but I am focused on maximizing my time for physique. I guess I'll change my routine after I finish my 3 month beginner routine and add dumb bells.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        see

        There are safer exercises that achieve similar results. Lifting things vertically is dangerous if you don't have good thoracic mobility.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wish I saved the jpeg of the skinny fat dyel talking to chad about all the supplements he’s taking. Just do the lifts homosexual

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Just do the lifts homosexual
          I will. I'll just switch to a different lift.

          Which ones?

          see

          > "trash for aesthetics"?
          It's not trash, but I've read/seen that there are better exercises out there.

          >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23096062/
          >. In conclusion, the exercise with the greatest stability requirement (standing and dumbbells) demonstrated the highest neuromuscular activity of the deltoid muscles, although this was the exercise with the lowest 1-RM strength.

          ?t=385

          I actually like the OHP btw, but I am focused on maximizing my time for physique. I guess I'll change my routine after I finish my 3 month beginner routine and add dumb bells.

          Dumbbell press are good

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    shut the frick up you fricking dyel don't post on my board until you can 1/2/3/4 for sets of 8

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      research

      > "trash for aesthetics"?
      It's not trash, but I've read/seen that there are better exercises out there.

      >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23096062/
      >. In conclusion, the exercise with the greatest stability requirement (standing and dumbbells) demonstrated the highest neuromuscular activity of the deltoid muscles, although this was the exercise with the lowest 1-RM strength.

      ?t=385

      I actually like the OHP btw, but I am focused on maximizing my time for physique. I guess I'll change my routine after I finish my 3 month beginner routine and add dumb bells.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dumbbell presses, lateral raises, and facepulls are probably best for shoulders.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    People who can't press a decent weight always find a way to cope. If you can't press 185 you aren't even a man really.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >always find a way to cope.
      Not a cope. I would continue to do it if there were no better exercises. There are better exercises.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which ones?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        There aren't any better exercises you dumb Black person.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you dumb Black person.
          Do you see this post?

          > "trash for aesthetics"?
          It's not trash, but I've read/seen that there are better exercises out there.

          >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23096062/
          >. In conclusion, the exercise with the greatest stability requirement (standing and dumbbells) demonstrated the highest neuromuscular activity of the deltoid muscles, although this was the exercise with the lowest 1-RM strength.

          ?t=385

          I actually like the OHP btw, but I am focused on maximizing my time for physique. I guess I'll change my routine after I finish my 3 month beginner routine and add dumb bells.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dumbbells are slightly better for all exercises because they require more stabilization but the effect is minimal and it starts to become a problem when heavy weights and small increments are required.
            Overall, not a big difference or worth worrying about.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    prompting all OHP haters to post body right now
    only fricking DYELs give a shit about muh micro optimization
    just do the fricking lifts people have been doing for centuries, if they didn't work we'd know by then

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good for you. Still, OHP & deadlift are more dangerous than other lifts that can achieve similar results and that you don't need to have great mobility and immaculate form to do them without injury risk (long term)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >OHP
        >dangerous
        ????
        If you injure yourself on OHP you're an actual moron, it's one of the safest compounds out there. Even BTNP is much safer than most compounds IMO

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >If you injure yourself on OHP you're an actual moron, it's one of the safest compounds out there.
          I got a sprained wrist from doing them. Went for PR and next day my hand was fricked.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Went for PR
            how many reps?
            i want to see what kind of moronic things makes people injured

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're pressing with your wrists bent all the way back aren't you? Fix that shit and you'll be fine lol. If you're pressing with stacked wrists then just use wrist wraps when you're going heavy, ez fix. Bench is a lot worse in this regard due to the heavier weights tbh, this shouldn't be a problem on OHP for people who aren't exotically strong.

    • 11 months ago
      Ice King

      you forgot to bench press

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        only homosexuals like big titty chests

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. can't bench 2pl8
          Worrying about whether people think your chest is too big or not is such feminine behaviour. Real men don't give a frick

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like to OHP and it has definitely made my shoulders and traps more defined. I don’t know what you’re smoking.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is a great upper body strength exercise, you'll never be aesthetic as a 2 month beginner without building up your strength first. youll be back in another two months crying about how little muscle you've gained, you're just one of those guys who is not going anywhere I can tell.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Incline bench
    Incline dumbbell press
    Sitting dumbbell press

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >exercises
    they're lifts, homosexual.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I switched to seated OHP because I didn't like how it made my lower back feel the heavier I went. I can't maintain propper form as well so it's better for me.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Use a belt / learn to tighten your core

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Would probably be worth the try. Currently satisfied with seated, don't see any negatives from it atm.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Standing trains more muscles, longer kinetic chain

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been out for about a month after tweaking my neck doing this exercise. Anyone have any advice on how not to hurt my neck while doing OHP? I’m not dyel; I was doing 185lbs for reps when the injury happened. This neck problem hasn’t been an issue until recently for me with OHP.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh sweet the OHP schizo is back

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Keep seething shoulder manlet

    I bet it's only because you little girls arms can't handle the barbell

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lovely weather
    >OHP day
    >bring it outside
    >pause workout to browse fit cause why not
    >see thread
    I get insane ab doms when OHPing on grass

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Incredibly basado

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      based moron

      Set up from a rack, this is why you press 85

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    OHp is literally the best movement ever

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look, a newb tard looksmaxxer.
    Do them homosexual, doing it for a couple months will shred a lot of your upper body.
    Source: I did them yesterday and look fricking awesome

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow I REALLY value what a 2 month lifter has to say about one of the most aesthetic physique building lifts. Please tell me more

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Give me better exercises

    >Dumbbell shoulder press on incline bench
    >Any variety of lateral or y raise
    >Any well designed shoulder press machine
    Ohp is necessary for oly lifters and strongman. Other than that it's trash.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      None of these lifts are needed. Just pin and do some pushups variations every day.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I thought this post was a meme at first, that you were mocking people who suggested worse exercises.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Probably because you fell for the ohp meme and don't realise there's a reason actual jacked bodybuilders are doing isolation exercises that you think are a meme.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heavy benching will explode front delts, you are only limiting your gains by not letting delts recover with this powersharter meemee.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That form
    Anyway, it's not trash, especially if you've only been lifting for 2 months.
    You're likely not pressing enough. Just press with good form and alternate reps each workout, then do a decent load of accessory volume. Lateral raises for example.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is utter garbage. The entire point of barbell lifts is to max out weight and shock on the body. But guess what, the average person can dumbbell ohp more than they can with a barbell. Literally no point in ever doing barbell ohp

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because most people half rep on DB ohp moron. Rotate the dumbbells to neutral and go all the way down; you won't be able to lift anywhere near as much weight as with a barbell

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >But guess what, the average person can dumbbell ohp more than they can with a barbell
      Because they half-rep, moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because when people DB press they bring the weights down along the sides of their heads where the bulk of the dumbbell stops your ROM from going past eye level. AKA skipping the hardest part of the lift.
      DB pressers are half reppers, simple as

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    step aside dyels, this is the greatest chest/shoulders exercise of all time

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >i've been lifting for 2 months
    >this lift sounds trash for aesthetics!
    >86 replies

    great board we have here

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Give me better exercises
    Sitting smith machine ohp with back support. Strongmen and Meadows (RIP) swear by it

    t. 115kg ohp

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are you moronic?

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why does nobody talk about the fact that when you OHP with a barbell, you can actually easily make sure that both shoulders are pressing symetrically on the same plane. When I see people do DB presses, 90% of the time it's at least a little lopsided

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because DB press (unilateral) actually addresses the problem while BB press hides it

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should only be allowed opinions on OHP when and IF you press 60kg for reps. Which 99% of IST cant do because dyel

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    BTN press.

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    do it seated for 8s

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How should I implement OHP into my training? I usually like to do one compound for 3x5 before doing isolation exercises, so should I do OHP 3x5 on one of my chest days? I already only lift heavy on my bench press on one of my chest days so I could easily put OHP in on the other. Or would 3x8-12 be better? I'm fairly dyel so maybe my stats will help you guys decide (All numbers are for 3x5) .7/1.25/2/2.5

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >.7/1.25/2/2.5
      whatre these numbers?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've found that 3x5 is pretty bad for OHP. I started to alternate between 3-4 sets of 6-8 and my progress blew me away. I also treat OHP as my most important lift (imo if you want to look good you should as well, most nattys have shitty shoulders even despite years of gymcelling). Always put it first in your routine, it's much more taxing than bench press and do it 2-3 times a week if you can

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