Alcohol

>boosts testosterone
>lowers blood sugar
>reduces your risk of type 2 diabetes
>prevents blood clotting
>dilates blood vessels
>increases strength
>thins the blood
>reduces chance of heart attack by 30%
>stops your body from absorbing fat
>reduces pain
>kills bacteria
>increases euphoria
>increases your energy
>keeps you warm and alive during winter
>makes you more social
>makes you more confident
>gets you laid
Yet IST is somehow against it. Explain.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the no fun allowed crowd is scared of ever leaving their tiny little box

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it negatively impacts muscle protein synthesis.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's like after 6 servings worth.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's like every night I drink Jack

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boosts testosterone
    No it doesn't

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would fucking smash yourself in you fucking cunt if I wasn’t so fucking drunk right now cunt bitch.

      FUCK UOO

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't worry buddy, i'll be joining you soon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s a mindset thing, you’re a beta cuck who says it doesn’t affect testosterone and or that it is bad and therefore your brain will tell your body no testosterone this not a high testosterone drink but if you drink it and are a chad (like me) and think this shits great your brain will be like fuck yeah this shits pimp and you’ll get all the happy chemicals and testosterone shit

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you more social
    you more confident
    i wish i could do it without liquid garden gnome

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Have you ever seen a healthy alcoholic? Next your going to say that drinking beer gives you sick pec gains lol.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk man my dad is an alcoholic and he does Ironman triathlons

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice either-or fallacy, asswipe! You don't have to be an alcoholic to enjoy some booze now and then. Fucking DYEL

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>your going to say
      ESL much?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Have you ever seen a healthy alcoholic?
      You see them all the time you just don't know it. Especially in the legal field did you know 1 out of 3 lawyers are alcoholics?

      I heard that phytoestrogens actually decrease your estrogen levels because they are not as potent as the ones your body produces and they take up space in the receptors preventing the more potent native estrogen from taking effect

      >I heard that phytoestrogens actually decrease your estrogen levels
      That's dumb. They wouldn't be so effective at treating estrogen deficient ailments otherwise. They're commonly used in lieu of HRT for a variety of conditions related to menopause, from hot flashes and headaches to osteoporosis. If phytoestrogens worsened their estrogen condition by filling up the space with weaker molecules then nobody would use it.

      Additionally, anabolic steroids are commonly synthesized from plant sterols. You can go unironically touch grass, pluck it out of the ground, and turn it into steroids with the right equipment.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    testosterone
    blood sugar
    your risk of type 2 diabetes
    your first three points are literally opposite of what alcohol actually does, not gonna bother reading the rest of your post.

    sure, there's no harm in occasionally having a couple drinks with your buddies but why lie about its effects? you're not doing yourself any favors

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alcohol =/= beer. Beer is starchy, full of carbs, and aromatizes into estrogen because of the hops. Neither wine nor liqour does this.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I heard that phytoestrogens actually decrease your estrogen levels because they are not as potent as the ones your body produces and they take up space in the receptors preventing the more potent native estrogen from taking effect

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        based. this is why i only drink vodka, whiskey, or tequila. i fucking love beer dont get me wrong, but it sucks how carby and fat you get from it.

        hell, pro bodybuilders are known to get super smashed on liquor because theres no carbs in it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        based. this is why i only drink vodka, whiskey, or tequila. i fucking love beer dont get me wrong, but it sucks how carby and fat you get from it.

        hell, pro bodybuilders are known to get super smashed on liquor because theres no carbs in it.

        Alcohol in any form is still one of the worst neurotoxins you can consume, and not only that but it nukes many organs too. As was said earlier, the only drugs which has a worse impact on users health and mental impairment is meth and crack. You might not get fat from vodka but you are still nuking your body

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Long term impairment from alcohol isn't primarily from alcohol use, it's mostly related to thiamine deficiency. Alcohol strips B vitamins from your body and brain. If you take a multivitamin, as i'm sure your do on a ISTness forum, you can avoid serious and/or permanent consequences. It's hard on your organs though, especially hard liquor, but most pharmaceuticals you take are going to be much harder. It's one of the big reasons why everything says not to use with alcohol. Not because alcohol necessarily interferes with the drugs, but because of how oral pharma drugs strain your liver. A few grams of over the counter tylenol is enough to kill you by shutting off your liver.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >keeps you warm and alive during winter
    Completely false, and actually dangerous in a real survival situation.
    It makes you feel warm because body heat is being brought to the surface of the skin. That's the opposite of what you want if you're cold enough to str8 up die.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Completely false, and actually dangerous in a real survival situation.
      Lol your full of shit. Knew a guy that crashed his car on his way home from the bar. He had to walk five miles home, barefoot, no coat, -25 bellow. He never would have made it withought the booze. Sure he lost his fingers, a foot and some of his other foot but better than dying in a ditch right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        jesus this entire situation is brought on by alcohol, wtf man

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The kicker is that the guy was in the bar 3 days later. Went straight from the hospital didn’t even go home first. I quit drinking after seeing that.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Holy fuck. I drink alot (been cutting down) and that is probably the worst i've ever heard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        .
        Dude was missing fingers and a foot? You know what alcohol does to blood, right?
        It's more like he made it in spite of the booze, ain't it?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe he should have called a cab

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >my anectode disproves actual medical research into why alcohol makes you feel warm
        have a nice day
        You think cold alcohol magically combusts and raises your temperature once inside your body?
        Learn some basic biology and thermodynamics american retard

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i'm pretty sure no one is against alcohol, aside from some few retards

    getting drunk/wasted on the other hand is what it is very look down in here. not because the alcohol itself, but the stupid shit you do or eat and drink while drunk

    that and also the degenerancy that carries being drunk often

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the blood sugar effect varies based on your individual physiology. It is processed immediately because its recognized by your system as a poison. This means that it is burned before glucose, which usually will increase free blood glucose.

    There is a small effect on blood vessels, and its true that moderate drinking might reduce heart disease risk slightly, but it is heavily dose-dependent like most poisons. 1 or 2 units is a very small amount of alcohol.

    There is nothing you can put in your body that is unequivocally good for you. There are no 'weird tricks' in nature. It increases risk for all cancers slightly. How can injuring your esophagus and stomach lining with strong alcohol not result in disease eventually? Hot water also will eventually cause dysplasia and cancer.

    Have a drink, idgaf. But its not healthy beyond 1 or 2 units. Thats 2 weak drinks or 1 strong drink per day.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A lot of these claims fall under the 'citation needed' category.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      [citation NOT needed]

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smoke some pot instead bro it's much better for you.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          vape it bro it's healthier

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boosts testosterone
    in reality it does the opposite.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only drugs that does more damage to your brain and body than alcohol are crack and meth. Alcohol is legal for cultural reasons, but if it was a relatively new substance it would have been rightfully classified as a schedule 1 drug

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >graph of brain damage per drug
      >LSD is the lowest
      Found another memegraph shared by a retarded moron.
      Yeah, one of the few drugs that makes you go clinically insane has least brain damage.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Confirmed for being retarded. Every drug comes with risks, but psychedelic drugs are only dangerous for those who are either already mentally ill or have genetic predisposition to serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia. If you were already programmed to become a schizo at age 30, you will turn into a schizo at age 20 if you were to consume psychedelics. To people with normal brains it's harmless.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lsd is for literal retards buddy but keep on coping. Shrooms is the only worthwhile psych

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The only thing I care about are the risks, and psilocybin comes with nearly the exact same risks as LSD if you were to consume equivalent dosages of both. Despite the risks, they are still the least harmful drugs to consume for anyone who isn't already a nutjob or a schizo-in-waiting

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >source trust me bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can google it yourself, or if you have a source of expert opinions you can just look at this analysis

            https://i.imgur.com/CdNuGp2.png

            The only drugs that does more damage to your brain and body than alcohol are crack and meth. Alcohol is legal for cultural reasons, but if it was a relatively new substance it would have been rightfully classified as a schedule 1 drug

            from a top 5 international medical journal which had the top 25-30 experts on drugs in the UK as part of it.

            But you're probably one of those dense fucks who'll revert to "I won't trust the experts", while asking for sources from those very same experts

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, you've never taken hallucinogens nor interacted with those that take them regular or who used to.
              Please go back now.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but muh anecdotal evidence
                Okay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're arguing with trolls or alcohol shills who work for the night time industry, who capitalise of people's problems and drug addictions. Don't bother. They're time is coming to an end.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          schizophrenia doesn't exist

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            you don't exist

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Did the voices in your head tell you to post this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's fucking mental when you look at the facts about alcohol and then look at the UK with its pub on every street. Pretty confident the pub industry will be good as dead in the next 20 years.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The drinking culture is too strong for anything to be done, and that has been the case for a thousand years in many countries. It's very addictive and if you take it away from millions of junkie citizens all at once you will have social unrest of your hands. One of the funniest things at the peak of the covid lockdowns was that in most countries liqour stores were among the only stores allowed to stay open, as it was considered essential

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fun fact: the soviet union nearly fell a decade or so before it actually did, and for a simple reason: they tried to add a few kopeks to the price of vodka.
          The decision was quickly reversed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah as it stands now for sure, but younger generations don't visit the pub now like they did back in the day. A change in the generational mindset will end most wet only premises.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think it might be because younger generations have access to an ocean of information online and are beginning to understand that alcohol is in reality a hard drug despite being legal, so why opt for that when softer drugs like weed exists

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Theres stuff that probably should be banned when it has zero benefit like syrups and crazy sugars and stuff but when you want to ban alcohol because of your gay ass health system you might as well start shoving dildos up your ass

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Would you be in favor of legalizing every drug which has a lesser negative impact on users health than alcohol? Because then everything except meth and crack should be legalized. And maybe heroin. Most experts say alcohol is worse than heroin, but some say that heroin and alcohol are about equal so it’s up for debate

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            legalizing every drug would result in less harm in the long run

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Heroin is harmless unless you take enough to knock out respiratory drive. Out of all the recreational drugs it's probably the safest. A lethal amount of anything is bad.
            The only laws that should be in place for drugs are labeling and purity related. It's absolutely insane that any drug is illegal.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with you but the only people who care about legalising drugs are hippies, women and libcucks from cali-Washington coastline so I’ll call you a dirty gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      These statistics are bunk when you consider the prevalence of each substance. On my 1.5mile trip home from work I passed two stores that sell liquor and beer, and one bar. When Walmart starts selling heroin we can revisit this idea, but untill then, everything in moderation is the key to a balanced lifestyle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to misunderstand the analysis. It doesn't count the overall usage, that would make no sense. It's on a per-user basis measuring equivilanet or standard dosages for each substace. The fact that it's legal seems to fool a lot of brainlets into thinking that makes it less harmful than its illegal counterparts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to misunderstand the analysis. It doesn't count the overall usage, that would make no sense. It's on a per-user basis measuring equivilanet or standard dosages for each substace. The fact that it's legal seems to fool a lot of brainlets into thinking that makes it less harmful than its illegal counterparts

        Having said this, heroin is a bit more addictive than alcohol is. But because alcohol is so easily available and still an addictive subtance, it comes as no surprise that roughly 40% of Americans report alcohol abuse having been a problem in their family. From a physiological and cognitive standpoint, an alcoholic destroys himself more than a heroin junkie does. Simple as

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >boosts testosterone
    Yeah every alcoholic I've ever seen was a totally jacked high T chad.
    All of the people I know who swill beer all weekend watching moron ball all look like Rich Piana.
    Fucking retard.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lowers testosterone
    >Terrible for health
    >reduces pain
    >kills bacteria
    >increases euphoria temporarily
    >decreases your energy
    >decreases your ability to feel things
    >artificially makes you drop your inhibitions and natural fear and anxiety, doesn't make you more confident
    >Realistically if you went out not drinking with the same attitude you had when you are drinking and having built up your confidence you would get laid just as much and wouldn't be prone to having sex with hampigs/getting stds or causing pregnancy from unsafe sex

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its funny reading alcoholics here coping when theres 3 million alcohol related deaths yearly.
    your choice of drug sucks ass but thats ok, i like alcohol in social settings too but theres no reason to shill it.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol is nice. Comparing it to alcoholism is dishonest. Like comparing lifting to getting crushed by a pallet of bricks. Nondrinkers are always disingenuous pieces of shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every drug, including alcohol, feels nice. And most people don't turn into addicts despite using them occasionally. I drink every once in a while, but I don't fool myself into believing that I am any better than some guy who snorts coke at parties as rarely as I drink, because I am in fact doing more damage to myself than he is

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >every drug feels nice
        That's not true. Kratom feels awful. Alcohol's feel good comes from agonizing GABA in the brain. It's what makes you more social too. Funny thing about GABA, deficiency of it is associated with a few select mental ailments. Take a look at this and let me know if it reminds you of a certain website.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having a few light beers with some hot wings on the weekend is a pleasure I will not give up

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Only thing I drink is water, milk, espresso, and fresh OJ. Sober for almost 3 weeks now.

    Feels good boys

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >keep going

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How much is too much ??

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you can't go more than a week without consuming a substance, whether that be heroin or alcohol, you have a problem

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are the best first date cocktails for girls bros?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Moscow mule is great in my opinion

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thanks! hmm looks pretty tasty but I worry the soda will make me bloated and burpy? I rarely drink soda because of that

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao are you a woman?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >for girls
            yeah I specified for a reason since I assume most guys get beer or whiskey etc

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I worked out extremely hard yesterday, ate a ton of food and then had 9 beers. Did I fuck up my recovery?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    testosterone
    Stopped reading there

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't want to boost his testosterone
      YWNBAW

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >implying you know how to read

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is filled with gays who never have fun and can't hold their liquor. I bet you fags won't stand on your feet anymore after drinking 10 beers.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    32yo, went out with some friends last evening until 7 in the morning and got extremely drunk, did cocaine and some ketamine on top of that, smoked half a pack of cigarettes and ate at a burger king in the middle of the night. My hangover is actually quite ok, just tired. What does this mean for my gains and how can future drunk me avoid these dumb decisions?

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > literally none of this is true
    Enjoy being a fat, low t drunk with type 2 diabetes

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like with anything in life, it should only be taken in moderation.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >keeps you warm and alive during winter
    It makes you think, that you are warm. Then when you start freezing, it feels even more warm. Thats why people fall asleep smiling and freeze to death when they are drunk. t. Russian

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Better dead snug and happy than the dread of freezing to death

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong. It imoroves peripheral circulation by dilating arteries. This makes you feel warmer (especialy in your hands, feet, and face). Only an idiot would think this means you should walk in a snowstorm naked. Coincidentally, one of the few survivors of the Titanic crash survived the ice cold waters by getting drunk before the ship went down. The alcohol raised his temperature and prevented his heart from stopping from thermal shock. Cope more virgins.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drink like 2-3 cocktails a week only on weekends.
    I'm very happy with my alcohol intake, it's great to just be able to have a few drinks on the weekend and enjoy the process of making them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never could get guys like you. What do you get out of drinking so little? And dont say taste. Ive been a hardcore alcy for the last 10 years. Alcohol tastes like paint thinner.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >what do you get out of it
        A slight buzz, feels good and relaxing
        >doesn’t taste good
        I dunno wtf you’re drinking but whiskey sour and old fashioned taste fantastic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because i drink so little even 2 drinks gets me a nice buzz. And that's all i need to relax and have a bit of fun on the weekend.

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >nooooooo if you drink alcohol it fucks with muscle synthesis noooo
    >I don’t like alcohol I much prefer my Asian fart and herb water that cleanses the soul
    Reminder that drinking is not only part of being a man it’s also about rejecting tea drinking gays

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >need addictive substance to function as a man
    lol

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gives you a disgusting alcohol gut
    im good

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I drink beer then drive to the gym to burn off the carbs

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    My daddy beats me after drinky time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tell him "keep up the good work"

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A work mate recommended I try a white Russian. Thoughts?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Too much caffeine

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I walk to the gym, so I occasionalky drink both vodka and preworkout throughout my workouts. The lifts feel insane.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Occasionally indulgence is fine. This could be alcohol, weed, psychedelics, party drugs, junk food, all night Vidya sessions etc.
    The problem is when it becomes a substitute for an actual personality. Your post is reminiscent of stoners with no other hobbies saying:
    >Bro it's just a plant bro
    >It has healing properties bro
    >Dude I was so high lmao
    Try socialising without it and you'll realise how fucking boring you actually are.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Occasionally indulgence is fine
      Nice try Satan. Indulgence makes you weaker and makes it even harder to resist in future.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah if you're an addict but that isn't an issue for healthy people.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imbecile

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For a long time I was anti-alcohol person as I've seen what it can lead to.
    Now, as I am older, I realize that this is nothing more than just a suplement for one to relax, improve his heart health a little bit and that is all.

    If you indulge too much into it, that's when the problems come.

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