All gymcelling and size coping aside, how do I longevity max? Away with. >muh heavy deadlift

All gymcelling and size coping aside, how do I longevity max? Away with
>muh heavy deadlift
>muh youth is all that matters
>muh cardio kills muh gains
>muh eat 200g of protein and 12 eggs a day
>muh studies
>muh anti science
what do you other (actual) lifters think is optimal diet and training for functionality and longevity?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Make friends and get married. Seriously. lonely isolated men die younger.
    I of course have 0 friends and 0 womens, but do as I say, not as I do

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      already set, got 2 kids even. You can still make it

      do 5km run 4 times a week or other type of cardio and you should be fine

      as for dieting avoid red meat, drink water only and stay in healthy bw all the time

      all the older cardiogays I’ve met look like gaunt skeletons with arthritis and fricked joints. I’m not disputing what you’re saying but isn’t running all the time bad for you? Swimming is better surely, or rowing, or bike?

      Cardio (triathlon training)
      Low protein, high carb plant based diet with a bit of seafood
      Resistance training for the sole purpose of injury prevention

      >plant based
      surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?
        Where are all the centenarians slamming down red meat and eggs every day? Most communities with a high percentage of centenarians are mostly plant based with a little bit of lean meat or seafood.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don’t think slamming down tons of meat is good but some of the unhealthiest people I know are vegans. Not even fat I mean unhealthy. Bad skin, clear vitamin deficiencies etc. I think seafood SHOULD be good but all the plastic and crap in the ocean plus the state of fish farming makes it dubious at best. I’m not thinking the best diet on paper, I’m thinking the best route to longevity in currentyear

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Look up the blue zones. Those are the longest lived populations we know of.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              via genetics or lifestyle?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              You mean that place in Japan where they ate a frickload of pork before the war?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                > 9999 overkill quads.

                https://i.imgur.com/8U5P8Gr.gif

                All gymcelling and size coping aside, how do I longevity max? Away with
                >muh heavy deadlift
                >muh youth is all that matters
                >muh cardio kills muh gains
                >muh eat 200g of protein and 12 eggs a day
                >muh studies
                >muh anti science
                what do you other (actual) lifters think is optimal diet and training for functionality and longevity?

                Cardio does hurt gains if you do too much of it if you did 15-30minutes a day you would be safe.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          there are probably tons of those, red meat and eggs are very common foods

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >or bike
        It's pretty hard to hit any good intensity on a Walmart bike, especially if you're just browsing around the town. It also takes a lot more time to have a good workout on it.

        Running leaves me broken too, and my solution to it is that I run uphill which is easier on joints and absolutely massacres your leg muscles and heart rate. Hills may be far away, use the bike to get to them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      dont egolift diddlies, but you better grow and maintain a strong back
      youth IS all that matters, but you're still forced to live (or suffer) afterwards
      obviously do cardio, but preferably uphill HIIT instead of long distance running etc. Much better for your joints, and it stimulates the CNS as an added benefit. Swimming is also king.
      Eat enough protein that it supports your muscular development, and that it staves off unhealthier alternatives. A filet of white fish will always be a better choice than a bowl of rice. You obviously want both, but make sure the main part is the protein.
      All of this was revealed to me in a dream btw

      Lonelines doesnt kill you, lonely people just tend to live more unhealthy. You literally cannot into modern studies and their flaws.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Lonelines doesnt kill you, lonely people just tend to live more unhealthy.
        Human babies die from lack of touch. And being lonely leads to unhealthy behaviors or vice versa.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Human babies die from lack of touch.
          and yet here you are

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Let's take your argument against loneliness at face value. It is, simplified:
        >loneliness doesnt kill you, the consequences of loneliness do
        How exactly does one experience the consequences of loneliness without being lonely?

        You're the sort of idiot that thinks he's smart because he says, "Guns don't kill people, and people with guns don't kill people, it's technically the massive trauma and blood loss caused by the wounding inflicted when the bullets rip through your body and you don't get medical treatment fast enough to save your life that kills you!"

        tl;dr - shut the frick up, nerd

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >it’s not going fast that kills you
          >it’s stopping suddenly that kills you
          -Jeremy clarkson

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Damn, you're even dumber than I feared. Redditspacing summergay

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically drinking urine, and bathing in urine to protect and cure you're skin.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You didn't forget to urinemaxx right anon?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      be honest anon. r u indian?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    do 5km run 4 times a week or other type of cardio and you should be fine

    as for dieting avoid red meat, drink water only and stay in healthy bw all the time

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cardio (triathlon training)
    Low protein, high carb plant based diet with a bit of seafood
    Resistance training for the sole purpose of injury prevention

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      already set, got 2 kids even. You can still make it
      [...]
      all the older cardiogays I’ve met look like gaunt skeletons with arthritis and fricked joints. I’m not disputing what you’re saying but isn’t running all the time bad for you? Swimming is better surely, or rowing, or bike?
      [...]
      >plant based
      surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?

      https://i.imgur.com/8U5P8Gr.gif

      All gymcelling and size coping aside, how do I longevity max? Away with
      >muh heavy deadlift
      >muh youth is all that matters
      >muh cardio kills muh gains
      >muh eat 200g of protein and 12 eggs a day
      >muh studies
      >muh anti science
      what do you other (actual) lifters think is optimal diet and training for functionality and longevity?

      The top researcher into longevity came up with one of the take aways that eating protein (in any form, not just animal products) increases degradation.

      Your body has two modes, feast or famine. The harvest/fruits of the hunt, or long winters starving. When you expose your body to high stresses it goes into longevity/protection mode. Proven ways to increase longevity:
      >Fasting
      >A lot of cold exposure
      >Or a lot of heat exposure
      >Low intensity cardio and mobility, with a very little amount of muscular training
      >Maintaining a low body weight (and more importantly low body fat)
      >Low protein content in food
      >Sleep enough
      >Low stress lifestyle

      Essentially, getting big/strong is the antithesis of longevity. You'll live years longer and reduce your metabolic age, but you won't look as good. It's a trade off.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the post that killed IST

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          "Live large, die large. Leave a giant coffin." - The Brofessor

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm

            [...]
            [...]

            The top researcher into longevity came up with one of the take aways that eating protein (in any form, not just animal products) increases degradation.

            Your body has two modes, feast or famine. The harvest/fruits of the hunt, or long winters starving. When you expose your body to high stresses it goes into longevity/protection mode. Proven ways to increase longevity:
            >Fasting
            >A lot of cold exposure
            >Or a lot of heat exposure
            >Low intensity cardio and mobility, with a very little amount of muscular training
            >Maintaining a low body weight (and more importantly low body fat)
            >Low protein content in food
            >Sleep enough
            >Low stress lifestyle

            Essentially, getting big/strong is the antithesis of longevity. You'll live years longer and reduce your metabolic age, but you won't look as good. It's a trade off.

            I used to deadlift 585 lbs and wanted to become a machine. But now I have a kid. I do cardio and some weightlifting and weighted calisthenics, but really nothing crazy. I follow a minimalist training set up because I want to see him grow up. Changes your goals in life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I think it's important to keep in mind that insufficient protein is worse for your health than excessive protein. there is also the part that weight training has injury prevention effects for the elderly, so it isn't a 1 sum game, I'd rather die at 80 being able to wipe my own ass than live to 90 and be in diapers.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Definitely, the ideal amount isn't 0g of protein daily. But you don't need 1g/lb to be healthy either. You need some, there is a fundamental dietary requirement, but by just eating a varied diet you're guaranteed to hit it.

          Also, you need to stay active, but by simply doing LISS and some calisthenics/yoga you get enough activity to maintain your body well well well into old age. I'm not advocating going full Mr House and never leaving a pod. But the internet warped our minds and the absolute minimum physical stimulus required to have a healthy and good life seems impossibly low in a world of people deadlifting 500kg.

          Don't need anywhere near as much. Were built to walk around and eat berries (it's an exaggeration, but you get my meaning).

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        moronic. There's exactly ZERO evidence that higher protein does ANYTHING harmful and you OBVIOUSLY need muscle mass to prevent fricking dozens of various diseases in old age as well as not being able TO FRICKING MOVE.

        Totally moronic fricking idea.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, people who promote veganism are mentally ill and can't parse data and have an ass-backward bullshit detector.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, people who promote veganism are mentally ill and can't parse data and have an ass-backward bullshit detector.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6562018/#:~:text=Lifespan%20and%20metabolic%20health%20are,role%20in%20longevity%2Fmetabolic%20health.

          Did I say zero protein? No? I did not didn't I? Learn to read. Low protein is low protein. If you want to train hard and be a mass monster, you need protein, a lot of it. If you want to live as long as possible, you just need the bare minimum to maintain metabolic health. There are baseline protein and amino acids that are vital, yes. But you don't need to be fricking shredded to live into old age.

          I'm not saying you have to do this mind you, keep lifting if you want. I know I will. But if you want to live longer, eat low protein.

          >veganism

          Where did I say veganism? I'm not a fricking vegan you illiterate Black person.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >you don't need to be fricking shredded to live into old age.

            speak for yourself

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >But you don't need to be fricking shredded to live into old age.
            Yes you do and there are countless studies that clearly indicate muscle mass is necessary to prevent dozens of diseases - even aside from obviously BEING ABLE TO MOVE and not risk falling and breaking your skull every step you take after like 70.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              "countless studies" is IST speak for "trust me bro". The benefits you are describing can come from simple calisthenics, and not muscle building. Muscle mass alone doesn't prevent any disease. Healthy muscles do.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Countless studies say my dick is 14 inches long

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You can literally google them, I'm too lazy to do it.
                > The benefits you are describing can come from simple calisthenics, and not muscle building.
                Calisthenics INCLUDES muscle building.
                Balance and shit is really important for longevity of brain function (source: Huberman) and the more muscle you have, the longer you'll protect your organs and maintain movement function.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Muscle mass alone doesn't prevent disease
                It means you'll be more mobile as you age and there's a more or less linear increase in bone density in response to lifting preventing osteoporosis

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Therefore, methionine or BCAAs restriction may lead to the benefits on longevity/metabolic health. Moreover, epidemiological studies show that a high intake of animal protein, particularly red meat, which contains high levels of methionine and BCAAs, may be related to the promotion of age-related diseases. Therefore, a low animal protein diet, particularly a diet low in red meat, may provide health benefits. However, malnutrition, including sarcopenia/frailty due to inadequate protein intake, is harmful to longevity/metabolic health. Therefore, further study is necessary to elucidate the specific restriction levels of individual AAs that are most effective for longevity/metabolic health in humans.

            > MAY
            > MAY
            > MAY
            > FURTHER STUDY NEEDED
            > All hypothesis, zero evidence
            Welp, we got a bingo of a 100% useless fricking study. Thanks for wasting time on ZERO INFORMATION.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        low protein however correlates with stressors like illness and chronic inflammation in joints and other mobility tissues
        joints are also more prone to wear and inflammation with lower muscle mass
        having any kind of inflammation in your body is eating away your immune system which is playing a huge role in longevity
        I member that one old lady who made it above 100 had her bone marrow tested and it was still producing leucocytes
        so via A->B->C I claim you are full of shit and low protein is not the way to go
        not to mention that a lot of centennarians have eating eggs in common

        you also missed avoiding people once you get old to avoid illness and stress
        plenty of centennarians who said the same thing: they avoided high stress social environments
        so much for the homosexuals arguing about loneliness itt

        and probably the most important: a strong will to actually go on which relates to character and brain exercise and proper protein intake of hormone precursors and B12 i.e. frick vegans

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          vegans live in your mind rent free, ketoBlack person

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          he didnt say to not consume protein you homosexual he said a high protein diet is bad. which it is. cope harder.

          humans don't need a lot of protein to be healthy. you probably actually think bodybuilder=healthy.

          you are an actual moron if you think high protein diet is healthy. For building muscle sure but high protein will lead to things like cancer, colon cancer, heart disease.

          im not a vegangay but even can admit that a plant based diet is the key to heart health, theres a reason why it's recommended in every country for heart disease

          pick 1, either be a skeleton vegan, a moron carnivore or a smart plant based with seafood here and there. anyone here eating 454g of beef a day is in for a surprise when they get colorectal cancer at the age of 50

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        midwit trap

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    have you tried getting blood transplants from children? I heard that helps

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Safely train your lower back. Deadlifts would even help as long as you aren’t going crazy with them

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    low stress
    high money
    lots of vegetables and fish

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      more or less this. people dont realize how important low stress is. most people I know are already accustomed to a certain amount of stress in their life. thats a slow killer.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it, why? Why would you want to live until you're 80? Just look at them, a horrible existence. I hope I die before 50

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because I have kids and a wife who love me and I enjoy life. There’s a big difference between being a bitter jaded shell of a man for 80 years vs staying healthy, keeping as sharp as possible and dying a natural death with your loved ones near. I’m not sure why dying painfully and unexpectedly at 50 sounds good to some people. It’s not that old and if that happens to you then your body must be pretty fricked too. Why would you even want to live to 50 in a shitty body?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you can still be healthy and active until you die as long as you dont cancer or something like that. most people who look like shit at a high age never cared about their body, smoked, ate shit, drank etc.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Never understood this sentiment, Id live forever if I could

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      clearly you've never been to an old age home.

      > you can live so long that everyone you knew is dead, and all of your children are dead,
      > you can live so long that you are basically unable to do anything but sit in a chair and watch tv.
      > you can live so long that you will be unable to wipe your own ass , go to the bathroom without assistance , or eat by yourself. even if you aren't mentally impaired .
      >you can live so long that no one gives a rats ass about you, and you can litterally starve to death because the care aids simply decide that you are 'dying', because they need room, ( this happens ALL the time.)
      >you can live so long that you become deaf , and blind, but not mentally impaired, effectively become a prisoner in your own body.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Have family + friends
    >Lay off alcohol + drugs (a glass of wine every now and then won't kill you)
    >Low stress (move to the countryside)
    My gf's family is Italian and all of her grandparents are old as frick. They live in rural Italy, tend to their chicken, go to church, have family dinners and that's it. They don't watch TV (except for soap operas) or obsess over useless shit and only use their phones to call their grandchildren

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I agree that high stress will make you die earlier but that sounds boring as frick

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cardiomaxxing is a meme. Higher longevity comes mostly from large amounts of LISS, healthy gut microbiome (it's been unironically proven that fecal transplants extend mice lives), genetics, eating low calorie, periods of fasting, inflammation and free radical reduction and antioxidants, blocking ionizing radiation and cancer sources (nitrites, UV-B, etc.). A lot of these are diametrically opposed to "gym rat" fitness.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    imitate the habits of the japanese

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You wouldn’t believe how little too much means to you

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    mediterranean diet is your best bet with light cardio and calistenics (less chance to snap something)
    basically jog, walk, bars

    too much intense excercise puts strain in your heart in longterm, specifically it enlarges your heart which causes heart problems, so do it in moderation

    lastly its subjective and vauge but have a passion, the feeling of progressing forward is good for you

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    longevity drugs and supplements are a thing, most of which work via sirtuin receptors which have long been implicated in increased longevity. Look into metformin, Reishi, epithalamin, resveratrol. But there are plenty others I'm missing.

    In terms of lifestyle, adopt intermittent fasting, do your cardio, avoid sugar, minimize meat consumption (inb4 raging chuds attack me over this), privilege healthy oils/fats in your diet and cooking, get high quality sleep.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >adopt intermittent fasting
      what defines IF. How do I into IF. I dare not ask someone in the cult. Do I just not eat every other day or what

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Don't do heroin in a planetarium.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      If I’m not doing heroin I’m not coming to the planetarium. Simple as

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >longevity
    Why? Twice as bright half as long seems to actually be the better way to go.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because I have kids and a wife who love me and I enjoy life. There’s a big difference between being a bitter jaded shell of a man for 80 years vs staying healthy, keeping as sharp as possible and dying a natural death with your loved ones near. I’m not sure why dying painfully and unexpectedly at 50 sounds good to some people. It’s not that old and if that happens to you then your body must be pretty fricked too. Why would you even want to live to 50 in a shitty body?

      Because I have kids and a wife who love me and I enjoy life. There’s a big difference between being a bitter jaded shell of a man for 80 years vs staying healthy, keeping as sharp as possible and dying a natural death with your loved ones near. I’m not sure why dying painfully and unexpectedly at 50 sounds good to some people. It’s not that old and if that happens to you then your body must be pretty fricked too. Why would you even want to live to 50 in a shitty body?

      Because I have kids and a wife who love me and I enjoy life. There’s a big difference between being a bitter jaded shell of a man for 80 years vs staying healthy, keeping as sharp as possible and dying a natural death with your loved ones near. I’m not sure why dying painfully and unexpectedly at 50 sounds good to some people. It’s not that old and if that happens to you then your body must be pretty fricked too. Why would you even want to live to 50 in a shitty body?

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    - stay out of the sun
    - fast periodically
    - rowing or swimming for cardio
    - compound lifts for bone density, primarily
    - HRT whenever you reach the age you need it
    - stretch to maintain range of motion
    - no drinking AT ALL
    - drive safely and not when bars close
    - do things that make you happy

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Literally just walk and hike. Enjoy your old age.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Whole food diet, lay off on coffe/stims, no drugs, some form of low impact cardio i like swimming, weight training but dont ego lift and frick your joints up. The most important thing is staying active

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OP: this is the final frontier. i am glad you asked this question.

    the goal is to preserve your telomeres and stop the rust inside your body. if you do that, everything else is downstream. this is essentially the same thing that the worlds richest are chasing too, because ideally it will lead you to become immortal (not achievable natty)

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6316700/#:~:text=Telomere%20length%20is%20positively%20associated,28%2C33%2C34%5D.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Telomere length is positively associated with the consumption of legumes, nuts, seaweed, fruits, and 100% fruit juice, dairy products, and coffee, whereas it is inversely associated with consumption of alcohol, red meat, or processed meat [27,28,33,34]. Telomere attrition may represent a mechanism by which large sugar intake accelerates cardiometabolic disease [35]. Several studies suggest that reducing sugary beverage consumption could be associated with extended telomere length, independently of other characteristics such as age, sex, or body mass index [26,27,28]

        What a garbage study.

        >eat sugary fruits and drink sugary drink for telomere integrity!
        >consuming sugar destroys your telomeres.

        Seems like they did some real research and then threw in lies about fruit being good and meat being back. I wonder ~~*who*~~ could be behind these bold self-contradictoty lies?

        Btw you're legitimately moronic for believing this shit when a cursury glance shows it is horseshit. Meat is the key to human health.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >conflating coca cola with an orange

          lol go leave

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >drinking tons of fructose is different than drinking tons of fructose!

            Actual moron.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              good goy. the fact you think that a can of coke and a kiwifruit have identical nutrient profiles is highly amusing to me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >plant derived fructose in soda is literally the worst thing possible!
                >plant derived fructose in juice is literally the best thing possible!
                >High fructose corn syrup is destroying human health!
                >high fructose corn is a good part of a healthy diet!
                You're the golem here, moron. Even when a mirror is held to your face you can't see your own hypocrisy. You're either an actual shill, in denial, or literally semi-moronic.

                Furthermore, fruits have the additional detriments of anti-nutrients and fiber.

                >interventional study related
                https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3435786

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >random, one study pubmed
                That's the wikipedia of science dude give up on this confirmation bias shit you obese ketolard. Don't even respond without a body pic, timestamped. I know you're fat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >thinks Im fat
                >thinks I advocate keto
                >demands body without first posting body
                Someone can point out moronic shit without advocating your boodeyman, dipshit. I eat raw onions every day and often have homemade bread. I also have my vices like occassional soda and ice cream and shit. You can't argue without strawmanning because your brain is nonfunctional.

                I shouldn't even do this since you haven't had a single good argument and are strawmanning and haven't posted body and never will, but pic related is a picture of me taken today. Not impressive physique by any stretch of the imagination, but it proves you're qrong about me being fat. Just like you're wrong about everything.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Lift weights DYEL

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Fructose is pretty based because it provides slow release energy for your brain, while not creating huge insulin spikes.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    research the works of Dr. Ray Peat

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lift more
    don't be an old shit
    have a cardio cycle and only do sprinting and leisure swimming since cardio kills gains
    eat 100 grams instead, it's literally not possibly to saturate your blood with that much protein you'll just piss out most of it
    I don't trust ~~*science*~~ unless it agrees with me
    Yes I hate science, when you have a nice day please film it so I can laugh. Frick soience
    >what do you other (actual) lifters think is optimal diet and training for functionality and longevity?
    Eat whatever you want unless israelites want you to eat it
    >functionality
    try something with carbs, protein, and fat
    also if you have any body fat you don't need carbs
    or fats
    but you also want to have them sometimes anyways because your body will break down your muscle mass regardless.
    >longevity
    something something Jack London maybe, frick off goy pig
    [racism, transphobia, antisemitism, homosexual hatred, etc]

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      seething over the israelites online isn't good for your mental health either, post body

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >oy vey goy that's not good for your mental health I could make so much money off you- I mean go see a the-rapist
        Mental health isn't real, stop being a pussy, rabbi

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting heavy, srs

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Mediterranean diet / always have lots of veggies and leafy greens / nothing ultra processed / fruit is good as a sweet. Anything more than a glass of wine a day is bad for you. No smoking
    > Calisthenics upper + barbell lower for legs but in the world's slowest and easiest program that it barely counts as power-lifting - point would be not to seek numbers but rather to build strength that never gets dangerous
    > Even at that low level counteract possible knee problems with knees over toes / tons of mobility work to always have optimal bloodflow to joints to counteract tendinitis
    > Easy but consistent cardio
    > Always have non-screen hobbies like cooking, gardening, painting to keep your mind sharp. Old folks without these succumb to dementia / alzheimer's at way higher rates
    > Be in nature as much as possible
    > Have friends you do non-screen 'athletic' activities with like Golf, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Racquetball ect. (personally I like more dynamic sports like Judo and Basketball, but my knees are fricked from those, keep the sports pretty easy)
    > Go for a low stress job that pays ok vs high stress job that pays better, but make sure all your needs are covered (you want a job you can leave at 3pm on Friday without anyone giving a frick)
    > Spiritual activity that's both public and private like meditation or weekly church attendance
    > Visit family often and make your own

    Basically for those seeking longevity all your prosocial and athletic ventures should hit just at (possibly a little before or after) the point of diminishing returns. Those seeking glory should push right up to the point of maximum output, but the price to be paid for that is stress on your body.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >keep thyroid function high by consuming adequate carbohydrates (probably 200g a day for someone who lifts)
    >keep protein adequate, .82g/lb is the adjusted max, which means it's two standard deviations over the actual max just to be sure so you DO NOT need more if you're consuming carbs
    >avoid oxidative stressors like refined pufa
    >dermastamping (just use a sewing needle) wrinkles and pits on the face then use hyaluronic acid serum over it
    >avoid momscience like alcohol keeping you young (kambucha, red wine)
    >stem cells
    >supplement 50mg pregnenolone daily and 5mg dhea 1-2x a day depending on age
    >build a diet around a simple thing you can adhere to rather than importing indonesian herbal teas then alaskan fish and then south american grains... Longest living people eat shit like chicken broth, potatoes, cheese, eggs and live to 120 and they never googled cronometer in their life
    >don't get cooked by the sun despite what NEETs here say. Wear sun blocking clothing or sunscreen.
    >infrequent fasting. Don't make your life surround it but taking a month out to go with an empty stomach for a while at a time is good.
    >keep your home cool
    >increase your intake of salt

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    IST homies be like: eat fish for longeveity

    Also IST homies: PUFAs are le bad

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You seem pretty biased against strength training and eating well. Keep running down your body with cortisol spiked from cardio, I'm sure that will help

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      already set, got 2 kids even. You can still make it
      [...]
      all the older cardiogays I’ve met look like gaunt skeletons with arthritis and fricked joints. I’m not disputing what you’re saying but isn’t running all the time bad for you? Swimming is better surely, or rowing, or bike?
      [...]
      >plant based
      surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?

      already set, got 2 kids even. You can still make it
      [...]
      all the older cardiogays I’ve met look like gaunt skeletons with arthritis and fricked joints. I’m not disputing what you’re saying but isn’t running all the time bad for you? Swimming is better surely, or rowing, or bike?
      [...]
      >plant based
      surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?

      already set, got 2 kids even. You can still make it
      [...]
      all the older cardiogays I’ve met look like gaunt skeletons with arthritis and fricked joints. I’m not disputing what you’re saying but isn’t running all the time bad for you? Swimming is better surely, or rowing, or bike?
      [...]
      >plant based
      surely not? Care to expand on that a bit?

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think my cut routine would be pretty sustainable as a longevity routine of you upped the calories to maintain bw at a reasonable level. Cardio one day, lift the next and don't stop until your sore or see a dip in performance. I like the stairclimber. Low impact, works abs if you don't use the pussy handles.

    I guess you'd do as safe a lifting routine as possible so yeah cut bench, don't deadlift heavy, and be conservative in any intensity progression.

    Carbs/fats/protein 30/30/30 and fasting till 11-12 have served me well to start losing fat. Water and coffee or tea. Maybe milk if you can handle it. Supplement at least with a multi and some vitamin D. Everyone on this board should know by know that our produce is lacking the nutrients that was once afforded to other generations.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    sounds dumb but i think that "winning" is important. making something, having a rewarding relationship, succeeding professionally, being strong. being 25th percentile at everything you do.

    the important thing is that your stress level should not constantly be bouncing.

    also, routine. some centenarians have bad habits like smoking or drinking excessively, but they do it every day the same way. so maybe having a routine that you stick to no matter what is more important than what the routine consists of.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just don't spike your sugar levels too much, don't fume your skin on sun in dangerous hours, do cardio not only lifts, have a good social circle around you, limit alcohol consumption to minimum (only at social setting just a smol amount), don't smoke, do not get depressed, learn something and be aspired to learn more in some area, make sure that your sleep hygiene is on point which means 90-95% of the time you go to sleep and wake at same time, stay hydrated, do lab tests to see your hormones and tweak your diet so everything be at higher end of reference if good and lower if bad, test if youre deficient at some vitamins, change your diet accordingly - if still deficient - supplements, and make sure to get as much money as possible because this is best predictor of longevity.
    >t. don't do none of that and feel guilty, but hope anyone here at least will follow this

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    get blood infusions from children unironically

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      HAIIIIIIII-YAH
      HANDS OFF MY BLOOD BUD

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Skincare & haircare
    Moisturize daily, exfoliate 3x weekly. Shaving counts as exfoliation. That's full body, not just your face - use a washcloth in the shower to exfoliate and use lotion to moisturize.
    Use sunscreen daily, even if it's cloudy UVB penetrates that shit. Not just on your face, again, any exposed skin. Minimize time spent in the sun unnecessarily. Sunscreen reduces damage, it doesn't eliminate it.
    Shampoo 2-3x a week, conditioner every day. Consider silk pillowcases to facilitate curls and decrease bad hair days. Look up CGM if you have curls. Yes, it's designed for women, yes it will work with your hair anyways.
    >Nutrition
    Eat a balanced diet high in fruits and vegetables and high in protein. Antioxidants go a long way, eat things like blueberries and cherries frequently. They help prevent cognitive decline.
    Hydrate, always drink water when you're thirsty. Minimize alcohol and recreational drugs, if not cut them out entirely. Never drink to get drunk. Never smoke cigarettes. Never even come close to hard shit like heroin or meth. If you are doing any of those, seek counseling from a professional. You can make it, if my lazy ass escaped addiction so can you.
    >Supplementation
    Collagen maintains skin elasticity. Creatine increases bone density, lean muscle, and helps prevent cognitive decline.
    >Sleep
    Take melotonin (start with a tiny amount! like 1/4 of a gummy) if you have difficulty falling asleep. Avoid screens for the last 30-90 minutes before bedtime or use blue light glasses for at least an hour before bed. Invest in auto-dimming smart lights. Use warm light tones at night, especially natural flame like candles and fireplaces. Get a silk sleep mask to block out light. If you can't deal with noises from outside, get a white noise machine or fan. Use sheets you like the feel of, I'm partial to jersey and silk.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cont.
      >Stress
      Go to a therapist who specializes in stress. Try to reduce stress from your job where possible. If you're in a relationship, go to couples therapy. Start it when things are going well, it never makes the relationship worse. Consider supplementing ashwagandha for its effect on cortisol (stress hormone). Financial health is anti stress as well, make sure you earn more than you spend. Less cortisol is basically always a good thing for aging.
      >Exercise
      At least an hour or two of moderate intensity cardio per week, and consistent weight training at least 1-2x per week. Retains work capacity and bone density as you age.
      >Social
      Have hobbies that involve other people. Rec league sports, D&D, book club, whatever. Join an improv club, you'll be better at making friends with improv skills. Have a healthy relationship with someone you love, and who shares at least some of your values and goals. Pickup is bullshit, be kind and genuinely invest in her.
      >Supplements cont.
      Forgot vitamin D is good for a lot of shit, especially if you're avoiding sun. Multivitamins are usually bullshit and underdosed. Fish oil is worth it if you don't each much fatty fish like salmon.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Based post. Currently I focus on Yin Yoga and overcoming isometrics.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You gotta find a balance between longevity and becoming an actual test-deprived numale. Do tons of cardio and disregard heavy lifts like deadlifts and eat a fricking plant based diet and sure, you’ll maybe live half a decade more, but you’ll be a weak cuck.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    long distance running, i'm pretty sure they live shockingly long, i'm not really built for it given fast twitch muscle fibers but it does helo, cardiovascular health ups lifespan

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    dicky

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >training
    Get like 10-15k steps a day, do semi strenuous resistance training like 3 times a week for bone density gains. Maybe play a sport like Tennis.
    Should also do some zone two-three cardio
    >diet
    micronutrients/fiber are important. Spending a lot of your time in a calorie deficit seems to help too.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >longevity
    lol

    If you are not living your life with the belief that General AI singularity is going to happen in the next 20 years then you're doing something wrong.

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