All the biggest guys at my gym exclusively use machines and cables and the DYELs use barbells

All the biggest guys at my gym exclusively use machines and cables and the DYELs use barbells

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muad'Dyel

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol

      https://i.imgur.com/M7a3Jge.jpg

      All the biggest guys at my gym exclusively use machines and cables and the DYELs use barbells

      Thanks for not using coombait as an off-topic pic.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    getting big requires more than barbell training and you can get plenty big with machines

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well that's how it works, cables/machines for hypertrophy/size, barbells for strength.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I doubt those big guys can even bench 225. The muscles are all fluff. Machines are good if you just want big muscles you can’t use.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      homie

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Where’s the lie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      time to turn off the bro jogan shitcast my friend

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s science anon. Muscle size has little to do with strength. You can develop both, but if you train to optimize hypertrophy you won’t develop much strength at all. There are people with barely any muscle that can bench over 300, because they’ve learned how to use those muscles, meanwhile some really jacked people can barely do 220

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's only comparable between two different people, if you compare the same person between two versions of himself, one with bigger muscles, the one with smaller, the version with more muscle will have more strength regardless of strength training
          but if you're comparing two different people in vacuum then yes, some people require less muscle to move the same weight

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you compare the same person in two different timelines, one where they only do high volume hypertrophy and never go over 70 percent of their rpm, and one where they train .exclusively for strength. The former will have bigger muscles but much less strength

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it doesn't matter, the point is the person who trained for hypertrophy will have more overall strength regardless of strength or hypertrophy training

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the point is the person who trained for hypertrophy will have more overall strength
                No they fricking won’t unless they throw in some serious strength training in there as well. Just doing machines aren’t going to make them stronger

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah bro people don't do progressive overload on machines/cables they just perpetually rep out 5kg kek

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most Machines have a limit to the weight, and generally train isolated muscles instead of training the body to do compound movement. I doubt someone who just does machine chest flyes and never benches will have a good bench.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just doing machines aren’t going to make them stronger
                Why do powershitters believe this?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Where are you getting this? The introduction of two different timelines has my bullshit radar going off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you compare the same person in two different timelines, one where they only do high volume hypertrophy and never go over 70 percent of their rpm, and one where they train .exclusively for strength. The former will have bigger muscles but much less strength

                It’s basic knowledge, strength has to do with motor neuron activation, not muscle size, you can get extremely strong while barely developing any more mass. Of course a bigger muscle is still stronger, mostly due to hypertrophy training still causing a little neuron activation, but nowhere near as strong as it would be if you trained for strength, you don’t even know how to maximize the muscles you already have, how do you think adding more muscle you don’t know how to use will make you much stronger

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                post body

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry bro, I am not gonna be your jerk off material

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sorry bro, I am not gonna be your jerk off material
                too late, those numerals are too immaculate to pass up

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > strength has to do with motor neuron activation, not muscle size, you can get extremely strong while barely developing any more mass

                Holy shit, you’re such a stupid homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All the biggest guys are on gear

                He's right though, how else do you think Clarence Kennedy and Tian Tao squatmogg Tom Platz despite being lighter and their legs being significantly smaller? Neural effeciency

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why don't you try training that brain sometime as well, hypertrophybro?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Half truth. Strength in a movement is dependent on a) motor unit quantity, recruitment percentage, and activation / pulse frequency; b) muscle fiber cross sectional area and sarcoplasmic volume; c) anaerobic (glycolytic and phosphocreatine) capacity; d) support structure (ligament, tendon, fascia skeleton) stability, durability, and rigidity; and and e) familiarity with the movement.

                Increasing strength requires improving the first limiting factor. Usually that's the motor pattern in beginners. Eventually the number of muscle fibers becomes an issue, but typically, not for a while, as the body will create more myonuclei with regular resistance training (regardless of set/rep scheme).

                At some point, metabolic issues become a limiting factor: this is a major point of development in bodybuilding routines over powerlifting routines. The body adapts to specific stimuli; given sufficient time, lifting programs for these goals diverge sufficiently enough to require different adaptations. Powerlifting, which focuses primarily on maximal myofibrillar strength, leads to myofibrillar hypertrophy. Muscle fibers don't take up much space, and significant strength gains can be made with minimal volumetric increase in muscle size. Bodybuilding, which puts a lot of localized stress not just on the muscle fibers but also on energy stores and localized metabolic pathways, forces muscle tissue to adapt by increasing sarcoplasmic volume. Marginal increases in local metabolic capacity lead to significant muscular volume increases.

                With enough time, these training methodologies may converge when something else becomes a sticking point (usually genetic limitations or tendons).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but if you train to optimize hypertrophy you won’t develop much strength at all
          Wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is he okay?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cope

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unbelievable

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Jag duger precis som jag är

      >Im enough, just as I am

      The joke writes itself at this point. Its almost as if its intentional

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all the strongest guys at my gym do the biggest lifts using barbells exclusively

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strongest
      well who would have thought that if you're training SBD exclusively you would have good results on barbell lifts? kek

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Barbells are rudimentary they used to be the shit before people started inventing machines for targeting specific muscle groups so u don't waste time getting all the secondary muscles strong enough to hit rpms and put more streas on the muscle u're trying to improve.
    Barbell workouts as in compound training such as bench press deadlift and squat are great for general strength training but they should be done as an accessory workout after u finish targeting a desired muscle, this is an advice for natties off course since roid trannies can grow muscle on compound workouts easily at much faster rate and they should do them daily to stimulate as many muscles arls possible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >so u don't waste time getting all the secondary muscles strong enough to hit rpms
      foolishness.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should be doing both. Why on earth would it be an either or.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you prioritize strength and don’t want to get too big as to slow you down, you don’t need anything more than compound movements and maybe a few exercises for the areas the compound movements don’t hit.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Time under tension baby
    >that and frauding just a little, as a treat

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The muad'dib performs a bodybuilding split for maximum hypertrophy! (as it was written)

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You just noticed this?
    Higher stability means you can load a movment heavier and the less it's bottlenecked by stabilizers or faulting on groups that'll never relatively as strong.
    Machines being superior to barbells is why barbells are superior to dbs and why dbs are superior to calisthenics and why calisthenics are superior to kettlebells ect. You can make any of them work but the volume investments give increasingly worse returns the less stable a movment gets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's also relevant to the BB/PL specificity split, and proper training methodology. Isolate and train your sticking point, then compounds.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    call it

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i've noticed that the most ripped guys use steroids and the dyels are usually natty.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all the biggest guys at my gym use dumbells, the thots and boomers use cables, and the incels (me) use barbells

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