>and lo' ray peat was on his death bed when he beckoned forth a student

>and lo' ray peat was on his death bed when he beckoned forth a student
>and the student asked, what can i do for you, o master?
>and peat asked for chicken wings, fried in coconut oil
>and at this, the students were quite puzzled
>for as they well knew, chicken wings were rich in the dreaded pufa
>surely, said the first, there must be a nutritional secret to these chicken wings: aha! they will reinvigorate our master, and he will be young again.
>no, said a second, you fool! don't you know that when you fry chicken wings in coconut oil, that most of the pufa renders out, and what remains is primarily sfa? thus peat in his dying moments remains exemplar in his behavior
>uh, no, corrected the master. actually i just like the taste
>and with that, Ray Peat was no more

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ray peat in a nutshell lol

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. Ray Peat is pretty cool, but anyone shilling some kind of diet based on his ideas tend to be hacks.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did this guy get shilled so hard on here? From what I know he didn't even really invent a diet, it was just some of his own thoughts on nutrients and metabolism that spergs extrapolated into a full system

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im not sure but people here seem to raypeat his opinions all the time

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cease

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's the messiah of 'pufa are le bad' that ketolards latched on to do they could push more animal products/saturated fat. Simple as.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        not really, imo. he had been saying it independently and has always been way more fringe than whatever forces were propelling antipufaism

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ray peat
        >keto
        Genuinely, unironically, has glyphosate melted the brains of all vegans on IST?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >vegans reeeeee

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Give it up vegcuck, everybody knows you by now
            Also dubs and you die from a B12 deficiency

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's a bot, don't reply to that guy.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Basically everything ray peat has said was anthetical to keto. In fact, you would be in keto chugging vegetable oil.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ray Peat
        >keto
        Actual retard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >He's the messiah of 'pufa are le bad' that ketolards latched on to do they could push more animal products/saturated fat
        Not exactly, but i'm sure that plenty of former ketolards are peataphiles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          don't bother responding to him, there's at least a ketotard, a seed oil shill, a vegan, and a paleofag larper seething at every Peat threads, he's probably the second type of cretin (sneed oil shill)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Why did this guy get shilled so hard on here?
      because he advocated free thinking, experimentation, and never blindly submitting to authority, along with interesting research on human health. just hoping to spread some of his values.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because he HATED THE FUCKING CIA

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nice guy, independent thinker who voluntarily left the academic setting because of the internal politics, didn't try to sell me anything, used to give out his email to anyone that asked so they could talk to him directly without charging anything, was an actual educated professional unlike the chiropractors and "functional medicine" supplement salesmen that get shilled more often, people noticed his diet was legit and they could eat sugar and not get fat....

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think too much of him considering he made half of his teeth rot out in a self-expirement and still ate like a pint of ice cream a day with mexican coke- but he did get me on taking half an aspirin on fasting days to use up some extra glycogen though.

        Probably the most honest answer in the thread. He just experimented and stuck to his guns and almost NEVER told anyone *what* to eat, just what he thinks would work and what he did.

        Most peaters have extreme orthorexia though, and this is coming from a half-decade carnivore.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If the chickens were raised on a different diet, they'd be low in PUFA.
    There's a website selling low-PUFA pork that I've seen.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thats neat
      Whats the main cause for PUFA in meat? It is mostly caused by a grain diet?
      I know little about this shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the soi and corn

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thats neat
          Whats the main cause for PUFA in meat? It is mostly caused by a grain diet?
          I know little about this shit

          i think chickens and maybe also pigs get a certain % of their diet as straight up corn/canola oil

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i still don't know why this one autist is so keen on claiming Ray Peat as a ketofag guru just because he says that SFA is good

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious how most people try overthink his views when his philosophy is basically "if it makes you feel good then it's good for you"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"if it makes you feel good then it's good for you"
      I take it to a "higher" degree, if you crave it and it makes you feel good then it's good for you. Pretty much the non fatty cope version of Intuitive Eating.

      I started doing some of the stuff he talked about before I even heard of him. For example, I like steak, but I don't crave it as much as I used to. I crave stews nowadays, which falls in line with his low-tryptophan high collagen views.

      I've always like gummy candy(high in gelatin) the most, but I switched to dark chocolate when doing a minimal carb diet. Now I've switched back.

      I've always hated most pastries because they're made with vegetable oils even the frosting is whipped vegetable oil. I preferred cookies and cakes made with butter and frosting made from butter cream or cream cheese.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ray's was a beautiful mind, and it's ironic how by contrast raypeatforum is a containment board for the mentally ill

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          there are some decent lads on the forum, some passive aggressive cunts and outright schizophrenic guys

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God I love cocaine

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure he said something relatively positive about cocaine once.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cocaine and LSD are a big part of the Ray Peat diet, along with aspirin, T3, test and progesterone

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pufas are the healthiest fats while the worse ones are transfats and saturated fats

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      take your meds schizo

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/77/5/1146/4689813
        >a meta-analysis of 60 controlled trials
        >By that standard, risk is reduced most effectively when trans fatty acids and saturated fatty acids are replaced with cis unsaturated fatty acids.
        This is what studies has been saying for dozens of years, YOU take your meds.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > study brought to you by the pfizer/nestle/mcdonalds conglomerate

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            even worse, the studies they often cited are the Harvard ones which is backed by the walnut industry lol

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >walnut industry
              really? that doesnt seem to be a big enough industry to be influencing our entire societys views on nutrition like that

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                shills love spamming this picture, and if you actually search the study done on this you'd find who actually funded the study

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                here's the link to the study if you want to read it
                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2530902

                take your meds schizo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >body runs on cortisol and adrenaline spike 24/7
                >exercising when the cortisol spike is at its highest
                >lives off without any carbs thereby triggering GNG which stresses the body further
                i don't understand, is this supposed to be a gotcha moment? this is more of a ketogay and fastards getting owned pic though ironically, his bloodworks actually got better after he went on that meme diet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I just checked this cuck's twitter and he posts almost nothing, he posted nothing before that post last year and his story is still full of holes.

                He says he's on a statin now which is retarded because anyone in the sphere knows it has a negative harm:benefit ratio like the covid vaxx.
                Fucking shills, and I have to see this garbage screencap posted at least once a day on fit.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                he posted his bloodwork. if you notice, his markers got better lol, he was probably goyslopmaxxing before he started the carnimeme diet and i think he also said that his blood iron levels were all over the place

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Holy fuck I hate 'mortality%' so much. The mortality % is always 100%. What are you even trying to communicate? Seethe and cope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ? i'm just posting the picture that the seed oil shills love to spam, i even posted the study

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/JLVRMyA.png

                shills love spamming this picture, and if you actually search the study done on this you'd find who actually funded the study

                here's the link to the study if you want to read it
                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2530902

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32801200/
          "Compared with moderately elevated LDL-C (eg, 117-137 mg/dL), a lower plasma level of LDL-C (eg, ≤84 mg/dL) was associated with an increased risk of 4-year all-cause mortality in middle-aged and elderly Chinese men. The results suggest the potential harmful effect of a quite low level of LDL-C on total mortality."
          >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33293274/
          "In the general population, low and high levels of LDL-C were associated with an increased risk of all cause mortality, and the lowest risk of all cause mortality was found at an LDL-C concentration of 3.6 mmol/L (140 mg/dL)."

          btw 140mg/dL would be considered high in the "scientific"" community, you shouldn't have 300mg/dL of LDL but lower does not mean better, you are so dumb

          >body runs on cortisol and adrenaline spike 24/7
          >exercising when the cortisol spike is at its highest
          >lives off without any carbs thereby triggering GNG which stresses the body further
          i don't understand, is this supposed to be a gotcha moment? this is more of a ketogay and fastards getting owned pic though ironically, his bloodworks actually got better after he went on that meme diet

          Man I wish my brother who is already bald at 29 would stop his endurance competitive biking, thank god he eats a normie "healthy" diet and not keto, but he definitely runs on adrenaline, cortisol and I would guess he is hypothyroid given his very low resting heart rate.

          lmfao cope and seethe about your inability to tolerate the most nutritious beverage on the planet.

          If you consume dairy you should consume either A2 cow dairy or goat dairy. A1 cow dairy (most commercial dairy) has casomorphins, which are opioids.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is there any evidence that casomorphins exert a negative opioid effect? I mean, peptides aren't very good at surviving digestion

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >but he definitely runs on adrenaline, cortisol and I would guess he is hypothyroid given his very low resting heart rate.
            so why was Peat pro caffeine/coffee again if he also advocated for reducing cortisol?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              He was against black coffee, had said 'most people use coffee like cocaine'.
              He advocated adding sugar, milk and / or cream to the covfefe

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                didn't he say that it's more important to avoid drinking coffee on an empty stomach than adding milk/sugar?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't remember that. In any case, I'd say as long as you're having some calories with your coffee then the time you're drinking it doesn't really matter as much. See what makes you feel good. Personally I like drinking coffee about 3 hours after I've woken up and eaten a good brekky.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                but how does that blunt the cortisol increasing effects of coffee? I guess it protects against drop in blood sugar? I know I don't get the shakes if I have coffee with milk and nice bowl of fruit (don't like sugar in coffee that much).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                coffee burns fat.
                burning (body)fat (or PUFA) increases stress hormones.
                eating SFA or sugar along with the coffee and burning through those brings stress hormones down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      transfats and pufas are aids and you can live a fine life without them, some saturated fats are absolutely fine
      so its saturated > pufa/trans

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If there can be a codification of the Ray Peat method, it would seem to include eating:

    >Healthy fats, such as coconut oil and butter.
    >Dairy products, with a strong emphasis on milk, cheese and ice cream.
    >Lots of fresh fruit and fruit juices.
    >Root vegetables.
    >Protein from muscle and organ meats.
    >Collagen, a protein the body uses to keep bones, tendons and muscles strong and support skin health.
    >Eggs.
    >Shellfish.

    Wtf

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Collage
      Gelatin not collagen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's the same thing, gelatin is long chain collagen which gelatinizes if you dissolve it in warm water and cool it down. There's hydrolyzed (term for chemically cutting bonds while adding h2o to the ends) collagen too which is too short to gelatinize.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://journals.lww.com/co-endocrinology/fulltext/9900/a_short_history_of_saturated_fat__the_making_and.42.aspx

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the person who wrote this is literally a beef industry shill

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    any info about how ~~*they)) offed him?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Smoke inhalation. He has written before how smoke and soot is a xenoestrogen and that chimneysweeps used to have estrogenic diseases, it's possible the cia tried to estrogenize him so that he would output errenous writing in a estrogenic delirium, but they miscalculated and he died instead.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I hate the antichrist

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dairy shill thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you can eat ground up egg shell instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just eat literal chicken shits bro
        no

        lmfao cope and seethe about your inability to tolerate the most nutritious beverage on the planet.

        you have gyno

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Zero gyno. And I'm about as lean as I can possibly be, so I would know if I had gyno. I also used to smoke weed like it was going out of style.
          Seethe harder, you intolerant dweeb.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Are babbies literal human shits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lmfao cope and seethe about your inability to tolerate the most nutritious beverage on the planet.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    bros how do you cook your liver? i'm afraid of overcooking them because it will destroy the vitamins but on the other hand i have a hard time eating it like a steak (pink in the middle)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I simmer it in coconut oil with various Hispanicy Hispanices and eat it with potato.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I chop it into small pieces and fry it in the leftover tallow from the ground beef. Medium heat, 20~ seconds on each side. Then I throw salt, oregano and paprika on it inside a tupperware, close the lid and shake it violently to get microplastic gains from the lid.

        cheers lads, i think i'll give up trying to cook it as a steak

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I chop it into small pieces and fry it in the leftover tallow from the ground beef. Medium heat, 20~ seconds on each side. Then I throw salt, oregano and paprika on it inside a tupperware, close the lid and shake it violently to get microplastic gains from the lid.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm listening right now to Ray Peat interviews and interestingly he said that long distance runners have atrophied hearts. "flabby and thin" is what he said.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >long distance runners have atrophied hearts
      Like dying in their sleep because their RHR is crazy low?

      A few months ago IST was talking about how long distance runners get CAD(coronary artery disease) temporarily after long runs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess that's probably why yeah. Literally all their muscles atrophy including their heart.

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