anti bodyweight retards are stupid as fuck

>bodyweight will never be as good as lifting
ok, what now, retard???

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *stabs you in the balls*

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    now you are lifting, because a weighted vest is not bodyweight.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you added a vest you're no longer lifting your body weight.

      why do I care about autistic gatekeeping garbage?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >facts are autistic gatekeeping garbage

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, why would you care enough to make a thread about it?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because I want to talk about weighted calisthenics.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Next time, just make a thread about weighted calisthenics instead of trying to force people to agree that weighted vests are part of your human biology.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              autist cope newfag.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you added a vest you're no longer lifting your body weight.

      What sets calisthenics exercises apart from weightlifting isn't the fact that it's bodyweight. Your muscles don't know the difference between your bodyweight and an external weight. What sets the two apart is the fact that calisthenics is closed chain. You're going to be firing a lot more stabilizing muscles to do calisthenics. You will never achieve the amount of core stabilization required to do something like a plank or a pushup doing a bench press, for example. You will also never learn how your glutes turn off your hip flexors in order to put all the strain on your abs. There's a lot more happening under the hood of a calisthenics exercise than an open chain weightlifting exercise and that's why calisthenics type exercises are the gold standard of physical therapy. These types of exercises teach body control and proprioception

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What sets calisthenics exercises apart from weightlifting isn't the fact that it's bodyweight.
        Yeah okay, great, but OP never said "calisthenics," he ONLY said "bodyweight."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          context is important. Fighting over semantics is absolutely retarded

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you wear a weighted vest you are still doing calisthenics but you are no longer doing bodyweight. This is not semantics, it's a genuine distinction. Say what you mean next time, words matter.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you are still doing calisthenics
              So is still the same workout, just not bodyweight?

              >but muh autism gatekeeping
              >muh definitions
              sure, it's not bodyweight.

              But both are synonims, like being a chud chaser and getting AIDS.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sure, it's not bodyweight.
                Glad we agree, maybe next time you'll say what you actually mean.

                >But both are synonims
                They are not. Calisthenics with added weight is not bodyweight. Bodyweight exercises are calisthenics with no added weight.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Calisthenics with added weight is not bodyweight.

                What's the difference between being 180 lbs with a 20 lb vest on and being 200 lbs?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The difference is that the weight isn't part of your body. You are lifting more than your bodyweight.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >words matter.

              you sound like the gnomish media saying that.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gnomish media is who tries to blur the lines between words and make things mean more than they actually do, reducing vocabulary to control how people both speak and think. I'm literally doing thee opposite, encouraging vocabulary diversity so that we can discuss topics with nuance.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >encouraging vocabulary diversity

                How are you encouraging vocabulary diversity when you are doing the exact opposite by pointing out that OP didn't use the correct word?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OP is saying bodyweight and calisthenics are exact synonyms, I'm saying they have distinct separate meanings. The latter is more diverse vocabulary because it allows more words with more meanings and thus greater nuance of discussion, where the former just tries to make multiple words the same and reduce nuance.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why is weighted vest bodyweight qualitatively diferent from being overweight?

          I need some good argument as to why is diferent from being a fat fuck as fuck doing bodyweight.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's external, added weight that is not part of your body. You're simulating being heavier than you actually are.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Being overweight adds weight to your entire body, a weight vest adds weight to your torso.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is really helpful, thanks anon. Funny tidbit, my physical therapist told me that closed chain exercises have benefits not found in open chain when it comes to training stabilizers, but it didn't click for me until now. I was seeing her over the summer for some wrist pain that had come and gone for a year, but it got really bad right after an unrelated hand injury. Part of her prescription was to replace bench press with push up regressions.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you added a vest you're no longer lifting your body weight.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like it when liftards pretend like bw exercises are easily outgrown and then can't do 15 decline pushups without gassing to death

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vests are cumbersome and don't actually add that much weight to you. I think most vests max out at 20 pounds.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >facts are autistic gatekeeping garbage

      I like it when liftards pretend like bw exercises are easily outgrown and then can't do 15 decline pushups without gassing to death

      gymtards can't even do a single isometric no legs hand push up without gasing in 3 seconds.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't care, I just think you're an insecure piece of shit.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have a 30kg vest (66lbs?) and yes it's very cumbersome. It sucks taking it off and on inbetween sets, but leaving it on while resting also sucks. For Dips and Chin-ups I'd rather use my dip belt since you can add way more weight without having to squeeze sandbags in and out of those stupid little pockets. For exercises like Push-ups and Inverted Rows a vest is more convenient though.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take the /calisthenics + resistance bands/ pill
    thank me later

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