Anyone else come to the conclusion that back squats are completely overrated for hypertrophy?

Anyone else come to the conclusion that back squats are completely overrated for hypertrophy? People on the internet act as if it's impossible to make any lower body gains without them, but unless you have tiny femurs that allow you to go up and down with an upright torso position I don't think they're that good.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So don't do them idgaf

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about your opinion about what exercises are good unless you’re already jacked. If you’re DYEL you could make gains doing any exercise.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nobody cares about your opinion about what exercises are good unless you’re already jacked.
      this
      Timestamped body or stfu.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Crash Bandicoot goes squatting once and can't do one plate, claims squats are useless

    many such cases

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >many such cases
      gnomish

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I squat 170kg, but I'm starting to think I could just drop them and focus on leg press and hack squats and still make the same gains.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sensible

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You'll make the same quad gains, sure, but your legs have a ton of smaller overlapping muscles you wont hit doing a stable exercise, which is why squats are better.
        The DOMS after squats don't lie.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Newfag

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bet you're one of those gays that loads up 2pl8s, does 3 quarter reps and calls it a legday.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >box squats with a box that's 4" below ass level
              Many such cases

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will be much weaker not squatting but if you're another body dysmorphia fueled zoomer then it doesn't matter

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just do a squat variant that works for ya.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Leg press is a meme

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have never seen a person with big/proportional legs who both (1) Talks about how squats are overrated and he doesn't do them and (2) Is natty.

    In principle/theory, it makes sense to me that a person should technically be able to just do all the other leg exercises out there and have good legs. But in practice I've never seen it happen without chemical assistance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's because nobody wants big legs.It's unaesthetic as fuck.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is complete and utter shit. People who say big legs aren’t aesthetic are just coping for the fact that they don’t like to squat. Women love my big legs and big ass, anyone with a big lower body will agree with this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >big legs are aesthet...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing about this guy is aesthetic, it’s not just his legs

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Shit lats
            >Shit delts
            >Shit biceps/triceps
            You get this physique as a result of autisticly hyperfocusing on the "big three" lifts. It's not the legs that are the issue it's the imbalance.
            >Pull ups
            >OHP
            >BTN Press
            >A few sets of curls/skullcrushers at the end of your workouts
            would sort his body out.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Women love my big legs and big ass, anyone with a big lower body will agree with this.

          sure post body so I can laugh at you

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Leglet

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no body will be posted.

              the fate of legcels.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mr. bravo is that you?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I am much larger than you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you look like complete and utter dogshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stfu manlet. Larping as a teenager with your Hollister jeans. I’m taller than you, more muscular than you, my gym thot girlfriend is more beautiful than whatever hamplanets you pull off tinder, and I’m younger than you

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i'm 6'2

                >i'm bigger i'm bigger i'm bigger i'm bigger

                nobody fucking cares when you look like a sack of potatoes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is your torso so fucking long

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He looks swole, sorry to burst your manlet bubble lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/xbj1xKI.jpg

                I am much larger than you

                there's always a bigger fish, that second guy could kill the first guy without breaking a sweat

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imagine roiding for that
            buy a real belt gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women love a big ass and proportional legs. The classic Y frame. Only homosexuals like X frames with quads that extend past the hips.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, when I started lifting all the girls at work told me to never skip leg day and make sure I get big thighs becauee girls love big thighs and they all started swooning with eachother thinking about big muscly thighs. They also said a big strong back is very sexy.

          Chicks also love it when you have a big arse too. Safe to say squats will get chicks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, but that's a different conversation. Maybe you'll find some natties who don't squat and say they don't want leg hypertrophy anyway, but you're still not going to find a natty who WANTS a lot of leg hypertrophy and also gets it while not squatting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that why you're attracted to women with twigs for legs and pancakes for asses, you gay?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why is your entire body small then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Widely incorrect. On either gender.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like leglet cope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You look retarded with small legs. Anybody who lifts can tell you skip leg day. Not to mention you are probably a lot weaker than you look. I'm not saying having gorilla legs is aesthetic but having proportional legs is much more aesthetic than having toothpick legs like picrel

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idgaf about leg size i do squats because they make me want to die

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro are you ok? I do squats because they make me feel fuckin alive.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i rarely ever use back squat for hypertrophy. usually use machines like leg press or hack squat.
    you should probably still do squats every now and then

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I didn't have to squat in competition I would never squat again in my life. They blow cock in terms of hypertrophy. Sitting on quad extension and hamstring curl machines will give you easy size gains at 1/10 the effort compared to squatting.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No doubt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do those machines really work for hypertrophy? I want to believe because it's so much easier to take those fuckers to failure set after set, but the internet keeps telling me they don't do anything

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dyel

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the life of me I can't squat heavy without giving myself hip pain / hip bursitis. I think my legs just aren't proportionally built for it. Can I still make good gains doing front squat and leg press?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do front squats, try a weight plate under your heels, etc.
      I don't get that, but when I do back squats it's like 50% low back. So now I do front squats.

      Try a different foot stance if it's bad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've tried plates under my heels but it feels unstable. Have thought about buying squat shoes but I don't wanna pay for them and realize they're not the fix. Have also mixed up stance and tried both high and low bar. My most recent hypothesis is that I'm slightly allowing my knees to cave which is causing it

        Squatting and deadlifting in a wide stance caused me hip pain until I started using the hip adductor and abductor machines on leg day.

        I actually have been trying to strengthen my glute medius to make sure I can keep my knees from caving in. I'm hoping that will help

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Squatting and deadlifting in a wide stance caused me hip pain until I started using the hip adductor and abductor machines on leg day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lr2nlowbarsquat

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are a waste high bar is superior and everyone wants quad separation/definition. High bar makes you stronger and more cut.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree. I only do low bar squats and 3x3 dl for legs (each twice a week) and I end up having so much sex it kills my gains due to excessive cardio.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I only do low bar squats and 3x3 dl for legs

      And it shows kek. Dyel ass legs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post legs, manlet

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, but I still do them for general lower body strength/athleticism. Don't feel obligated to do any lift you don't like. That being said if you're dyel and just give up on squats because they're hard then you should at least hit 3pl8 before you make any decisions on programming.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Squatting is useless

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He has perfect proportions for high bar squatting though. He can go up and down with a completely upright torso so it hits his quads hard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So, get some lifting shoes, some squat wedges, or put your heels on some 5 lb. plates and increase your depth. Or just do front squats and zercher squats.
        I have long femurs and never have an issue hitting depth even without those things. Everything that you're saying is cope.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Platz had an intensity that no zoomer bitching about muh sqwatz can match to get any real results.
      Imagine taking some gay like OP and expecting him to squat bodyweight for 50+ reps in a single unbroken set, or, to hit double bodyweight for 20+ reps.
      The spirit of people literally pushing themselves to the brink of collapse in search of the ultimate gainz died some time ago, and the new generation of excuse making weakfags is the norm now. When I do see people under 25 squatting, holy shit, it's a travesty. Nowhere near parallel depth (sure as shit a mile out from ATG), using less than bodyweight and acting like hitting 3 reps with it is the hardest thing they've ever done, then congratulating each other like they just conquered Africa in their faggy tank tops.
      It's why I hog the power rack to myself for an hour on leg day, the fuck if some 19 year olds who video themselves constantly can't get their 1pl8 half squat sets in, they can fucking wait for me to finish murdering myself and then it's all theirs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This but I OHP their squat max, because squatting is gay as fuck.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're fine for hypertrophy, but not the only way. This isn't hard, dummies.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I quit doing squats as often because my pants were getting super tight in the thighs and I do not want to go out and find a brand new brand or buy a bunch of new ones and go to the tailor.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So much cope in here.
    >Leg day is hard so I'm going to conveniently believe that women don't mind chicken legs!
    Shut up and squat

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're not unequivocally 'bad', but they're not ideal for most people. When you do them, you need to observe how much quad ROM they allow for - calves all the way to your hamstrings being ideal, & dump them if you're not able to do that & not able to become able to do that.
    The best exercises for basically any muscle are the ones where it's most difficult roughly halfway through the ROM, & slightly easier at the bottom & top. But with a typical squat around parallel, where the femur is perpendicular to gravity, it's hardest at the bottom & gets easier through the ROM. Sorta like how using bands isn't ideal for hypertrophy because all the tension is at one end of the ROM, (though bands are probably worse). However if you're going ATG, past parallel, your femur is no longer perpendicular to gravity & it's actually less force on the quads - then you go up a few inches & it's peak force. That's where you wanna be. Many won't be able to do that on a squat. I personally can't. I do hack squats ATG, pic of my quads attached.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Might actually try this out, anything the hack squat misses? I have extra free time I'd give up for an extra exercise or two if need be

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah hack squats don't train your lower back so you need a different lift for that. It's nothing that some RDLs or good mornings won't sort out.

        the hole is easier for most people since you can get a stretch reflex. but whatever

        The stretch reflex is best at below parallel, so we actually agree ultimately.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the hole is easier for most people since you can get a stretch reflex. but whatever

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll give your butt whatever hole a good stretch reflex

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't done them in 6+ months, all I do are hatfield squats for high reps and high rep leg press.

    My legs are still very big.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would a particular exercise be "bad for hypertrophy"? It's dependent upon rep ranges, volume and general programming.

    IST really is full of dyel zoomers who know nothing about lifting isn't?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Just look at their advice on what to do instead.
      They never say “x compound movement is bad, I suggest y compound movement instead” it’s always “x compound movement is bad, just do these 6 different isolation machines to replace it bro”
      They’re literally just scared of getting hurt.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the FUCK would I want to optimize hypertrophy of my quads?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who doesn't want huge legs? I wish I had legs like Saquon.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Agreed, fuck em. I've been lifting for around a decade now and I went through a pretty big "fake powerlifter phase." Where I just wanted to squat, benchpress and deadlift a lot. I find if I go really crazy on squats I'm literally crippled for the entire week and the doms are in weird places like in my groin and where my glutes attach to my hamstrings. As I got older though I'm like "who gives a fuck how much you squat." they feel awkward and I don't like them. So right now I literally just do sumo deadlifts and sled pushes for my legs and that's it. I don't like doing full leg days where you're fucking limping around for an entire week afterwards.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just do front squats

    > cool
    > chad
    > aesthetic
    > more quads

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like really powerlifting should use front squats instead of back squats.
      Everyone already makes the back squat posterior chain dominant in powerlifting so we in effect have two posterior chain lifts.

      Can't do that with a front squat.
      Front squats and SLDL/RDL is all you need for lower body tbqh

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