Are FTMs (transmen) considered on gear?

Are FTMs (transmen) considered “on gear”? Also I was listening to Rip talk about neuromuscular difference in men and women training and how males recruit more muscle fibers so typically their 1RM is significantly above a 5RM where as females recruit less on full effort and 1RM is usually only slightly above 5RM. Is this true once a woman goes on test still?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    ywnbam

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    if they're on hormones, then of course. if they're just dummies you hack off their breasts and dress like middleschool boys, that does not confer any particular advantage

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      who hack*

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      But would they be considered on gear if taking test to a level equal to a normal man (which they are trying to be like)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, because they have a constant and stable supply of testosterone. T levels are always rising and falling like a sine wave in men and are also heavily influenced by outside factors like sleep, stress, nutrition and a billion other things. If you pin test, you don't have these problems. For the same reason, you are not considered natty if you take an TRT dose that only replaces your natural testosterone. It still is an advantage.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Okay I see but it’s not like any troonys are going out winning powerlifting comps against men. That’s why I was also asking if despite all their efforts the muscle recruitment thing persists despite the test or not? Seems to me it would if it’s determined in utero like I understand it it.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Getting on test at age 20-30 is different to being on test your entire life. People develop in their childhood and puberty, after that your body is pretty much set in stone. That doesn't mean you can't make any changes like growing muscle and stuff, but you won't change your nervous system, bone structure, how your brain functions on a fundamental level, etc etc. What you're asking is one of those things. So yes, they are on gear and no, they still lose to biological man by a huge landslide.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              So you would still train them like a woman essentially where their 1RM is like barley 5% over like a 5RM or a 10RM? If so it’s hilarious me me because I don’t think a lot of them get this fact.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >it’s not like any troonys are going out winning powerlifting comps against men
            its almost like men on roids are stronger than women on roids

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Even after all that lifting and all those hormones she still looks like a teenage boy who is just starting puberty.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine looking down at that scar and remembering the skin that was there is now just stitched over your clit/pussy and thinking it’s a penis…

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Would suck engorged clit.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    They won't pass a drug test (even for male standards) so yes

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    FTM is a pretty wild concept
    Imagine being a woman and voluntarily giving it up in order to be a bottom 20% attractiveness (and probably bottom 20% height) male who has to continuously take drugs or else he becomes a woman again
    This decision is specifically why I think they have a mental illness

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Of course the have mental illness… they look in the mirror and see breasts and pussy and think “I’m actually a man”. FTM are just depressed girls who hate themselves and MTF are just depraved men this disgusting fetishes they are acting out. The 0.0001% that are anything else may as well not even exist they are so far from the normal “troony” these days.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Also I was listening to Rip talk about neuromuscular difference in men and women training and how males recruit more muscle fibers so typically their 1RM is significantly above a 5RM where as females recruit less on full effort and 1RM is usually only slightly above 5RM. Is this true once a woman goes on test still?
    Obviously, it's neurological. Testosterone doesn't even change it for men much if any.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >they still lose to biological man by a huge landslide.

    I have a hard time believing this. OP looks pretty fit and body dysmorphia on this board aside, I see alot of guys like pic related.

    No way person in OP would loose to this.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Even a test taking biological female doesn’t have the muscle or bone density of an average man. The bugboy you posted is probably a literal child and is definitely on the low end of the strength bell curve. The outliers don’t disprove the point the other guy is making.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Zipperbreasts can take all the test in the world, they'll still never look like anything other than a woman who cut her breasts off and is pretending to be a 10 year old wigger boy
    And they will still never be stronger than a prepubescent boy either. Testosterone doesn't magically change you DNA, skeletal structure, and genetic muscle growth potential

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