Are Kettlebells really effective?

I have been incorporating Kettlebells at the end of my workout routines.
My routine is the standard Chest/tri, legs, back/bi, legs, shoulders/abs.
And I see all sorts of shit saying Kettlebells are trash or Kettlebells are the end all be all.
And some even say that Kettlebells are more effective than jogging and running; is it true and how do you feel about that?
So is it effective or am I wasting my time with them?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bump
    I need to know

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i told u already bot in ur 20 previous threads - it's just how people made weights to suit their aims back in the day as in to weigh shit on a scale, it was adopted into weightlifting device and it fricking sucks balls because weight is offset to handle
      >but swinging, it looks cool
      it's utterly fricking useless gimmicks 😀

      Effective for what?

      Doing standard bodybuilder routines? It's possible but not ideal unless you are going to buy loads of kettlebells.

      I put an inch and a bit on my bicep using a kettlebell though, YMMV

      >I put an inch and a bit on my bicep using a kettlebell though, YMMV
      no u didn't, bots don't have biceps, i do and only i know how to curl to grow biceps not ruin tendons - i have seen nobody do that movement, ever

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you the guy from the other thread who was asking whether it was possible to hit yourself in the head while doing swings?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, i am the only human here that plays u bot like an fiddle daily - i gotta stop 😀

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep, that's him.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wasn't there for there 20 threads. I'm kinda sorry

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes i know bot u have amnesia - u don't remember one thing from our encounters, we always start from scratch 😀

          i told u already bot in ur 20 previous threads - it's just how people made weights to suit their aims back in the day as in to weigh shit on a scale, it was adopted into weightlifting device and it fricking sucks balls because weight is offset to handle
          >but swinging, it looks cool
          it's utterly fricking useless gimmicks 😀

          [...]
          >I put an inch and a bit on my bicep using a kettlebell though, YMMV
          no u didn't, bots don't have biceps, i do and only i know how to curl to grow biceps not ruin tendons - i have seen nobody do that movement, ever

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it really depends on a lot of things. I dont think they are trash. They have a lot of benefits and value. But, they are not perfect.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      do you think it can replace the treadmill?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They can. It depends what you are using the treadmill for. Can kettlebells replace running, if you want to get better at running? Not really but they are a decent alternative. High rep ballistic hip hinging will develop the running muscles, and if you do some form of interval training, like EMOM, will get your heart rate up. And it will be easier on the knees than running, if you have trouble with running.

        Can they replace treadmill for LISS training? That would be difficult because it would be difficult to keep the intensity low enough to replicate "zone 2" cardio.

        If you just want some endurance training that will get the heart rate up, yes, they will work. Do a 10 minute EMOM at the end of training 3 days a week and you will develop your cardio system.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Can they replace treadmill for LISS training? That would be difficult because it would be difficult to keep the intensity low enough to replicate "zone 2" cardio.

          Not necessarily - I regularly use Maximum Aerobic Function principles with kettlebell training. The basic idea is to get your heart-rate at 180 minus your age (your MAF number), and keep it there. For stuff like running or cycling it's simple enough - find the pace and keep it. For kettlebell work you just have to feather it; do sets that pushes your HR 10bpm over your MAF number, and then rest until your HR goes 10bpm below your MAF number. For example I'll superset dips and swings - 5 dips, 15 swings, and just do as many sets in half an hour that I can while sticking to the MAF protocol. I've also used it well with snatches and the ABC; keeping the intensity lower helps me to concentrate on good form and build volume. The only real faff in all of this is getting a heart-rate monitor that isn't a watch, unless you like a kettlebell smashing your watch into your arm.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are right. It can be done. It just takes a bit of understanding and experience. I was assuming that the anon who asked the question was new to kettlebells and wanted to keep things simple. It possibly my own bias as well, as I tend to use kettlebells as power exercise, and then use stairs or walking as my foundation for cardio. And there is a slight difference that I feel in my body when I compare maintaining a heartrate from intervals/rests versus a low intensity steady movement. Maybe there is more to it than just the maintaining of the heartrate.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good assistance tool. Fantastic assistance tool in fact. Top notch. But it is an assistance tool and nothing more.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post your 44kg Turkish get up. I will never understand how everyone on this board can dismiss everything without a clue about it in the first place.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you a believer in Kettlebells?
        tell me about it.
        I am just fat burger with a fat sister who's got a host of medical problems that needs know if the exercise we're doing is worth a shit

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >are you a believer in Kettlebells
          Sure why not. Goblet squats for high reps leave me in a puddle of sweat. Love me Turkish get ups as well. If you want to lose fat be sure to do a lot of cardio every other day and eat clean.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what's up with people forgetting kettlebells can be heavier than 12kg?
        or is it the metric system...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who is stronger? Someone with a 44kg turkish get up or someone with a 183kg squat? Imagine being such an out of shape homosexual a 44kg circus movement is your metric of "strong". Doing hand stand press ups is more beneficial for strength. Your strength, and knowledge of it, isx shit. As was stated, kettlebells are assistance only.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I agree with everything you said. I only use kettlebells for swings, which is a conditioning movement that can also give you a great glute pump.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literal meme lift. Do you do bent presses as well? Eugene Sandow was a homosexual, so is Pavel.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I had to rely on kettlebells because I was broke I got decently strong, and I was more injury resistant, but I didn't gain much muscle. I didn't get muscular until I had access to dumbbells and barbells

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yah, you cannot replace barbells for getting bigger and stronger.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can. It depends what you are using the treadmill for. Can kettlebells replace running, if you want to get better at running? Not really but they are a decent alternative. High rep ballistic hip hinging will develop the running muscles, and if you do some form of interval training, like EMOM, will get your heart rate up. And it will be easier on the knees than running, if you have trouble with running.

      Can they replace treadmill for LISS training? That would be difficult because it would be difficult to keep the intensity low enough to replicate "zone 2" cardio.

      If you just want some endurance training that will get the heart rate up, yes, they will work. Do a 10 minute EMOM at the end of training 3 days a week and you will develop your cardio system.

      thank you
      These were the answer I was looking for

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Effective for what?

    Doing standard bodybuilder routines? It's possible but not ideal unless you are going to buy loads of kettlebells.

    I put an inch and a bit on my bicep using a kettlebell though, YMMV

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kettlebell swings are singlehandedly the best lower back exercise to counteract sitting down all day and fix that weak link in squatting and deadlifts.
    Maybe that bench where you do reverse crunches is also good, but I've never tried it and you can keep a kettlebell by your desk.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i took a long break from kettlebells and now that ive restarted 2 hand swings, i'm feeling a very mild soreness in my lower back which i never felt previously. I don't think it's a form problem, because there was a 2 year period where i did them every other day. I do low rep "hardstyle" swings. Do you think this soreness is normal?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        try forcing your abs and ass to do more of the work

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i plank really well at top, none of that lumbar extension you see people do. As and core really tight til hinge. I wonder if my spinal erectors or whatever they're called just got weak after so long and now i'm reconditioning them

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >is x good
    >I have been doing x for some time

    Why don't you tell us homosexual

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Checked, but also frick off. Do we really need the same fricking thread everyday? Have you not gotten the answer you seek yet?

    I know everything there is to know about KBs, but I'm tired of answering the same stupid questions.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      misnamed jpg - should be roid with kettles 😀

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they were dyel shit but turns out you can use them as a cambered barbell substitute for bench press.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I used to do traditional barbell lifts. Wrecked my shoulder mountain biking (plates/screws etc). Started rehabbing and got into kettlebells. Now I primarily do kettlebells/run/mountain bike. The fluidity of motion and explosive movements helped me a lot, combined with the awkward center of gravity.

    They are legit. Good for strength and cardio. Really good for stability/core/shoulders. Do pullups and pushups as well. Probably the most bang for the buck in terms of a single piece of gear.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s literally just a fricking weight like a dumbbell/barbell is.

    Why do you need to make a thread about this? Yes kettlebells are effective as long as the muscle is progressively overloaded like every single other exercise.

    Why do you guys overcomplicate literally everything?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >progressively overloaded
      that's what makes them not effective for strength imo. Unless you have an adjustable one or a huge set. Most people don't progressively overload with them.
      A single one is fine if you're using it for cardio.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get ups and swings will give you functional strength. Add in rope skipping and you are set with your health goals. If you want to get huge you will have to buy bigger and bigger kettlebells.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      define functional strength

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unilateral, or imbalanced loads
        rotational or ballistic movements
        strength-endurance

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Functional strength is a dumb meme. None of those exercises build absolute strength. Absolute strength has the best carryover to athletics, work capacity, coordination and injury prevention. You cant have a triple bodyweight deadlift and squat and be weak or frail. It doesnt exist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Powerlifters, even those with a big total, are weak as shit when you take them out of their linear movements. A big ass deadlift won’t help you for long if you have to carry heavy boxes from point A to B for a long time. Kettlebell swings will. Been there, done that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is clear that you haven't done that, at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A guy with a big ass deadlift will properly swing bells you can't get above your balls height all day long, do not kid yourself. Muh linear movements is a meme, and if you take the powershitter to your domain he will soon outperform you due to the weights that he'd throw around are a small fraction of his huge strength ceiling. Meanwhile if you step into his world you'll get flattened, simple and easy.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are a conditioning tool. Kettlebell competitions are always highest reps/ allocated time. They do not replace cardio or weightlifting. They bridge the gap between the two and help you recover from high intensity weightlifting (back pump) and build work capacity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >do a 30 minute kettlebell circuit nonstop without dropping the bell
      >it’s not cardio for some reason

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >reading comprehension didnt say it wasnt a form of cardio
        If you do for 30mins straight then intensity is too low and other forms of cardio are more productive.

        Powerlifters, even those with a big total, are weak as shit when you take them out of their linear movements. A big ass deadlift won’t help you for long if you have to carry heavy boxes from point A to B for a long time. Kettlebell swings will. Been there, done that.

        Carrying boxes? Heavy deadlifts and squats are literally the solution carrying shit for distance. Having a massive reserve of absolute strength is the difference. Look at strong men and their events. Carrying the heaviest shit for distance. You think turkish get ups/ kettlebell swing or deadlifts got them there? If you have insufficient absolute strength you will be crushed by the implement.

        I swear to god soulless corporate office gays will latch onto any niche hobby and make it their personality. Of course its magic cure for everything.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Look at strong men and their events. Carrying the heaviest shit for distance. You think turkish get ups/ kettlebell swing or deadlifts got them there?
          It's good assistance for keg or caber toss.
          https://youtube.com/shorts/_0-GexyOPSU?feature=shared

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maximal power cleans and power snatches build throwers, not TGUs. Kettlebell swing can be a useful exercise here if you're actually tossing the jmplement for max distance, otherwise it does not meet the demands of the caber toss, etc.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              TGUs are useless for anything other than combat sports and frankly a gun getup or deck squat is better.
              Swings are good assistance for tosses and so are snatches. Clean and press is also a good assistance for circus dumbbell.
              In general kettlebells are like swiss army knives versus precision tools.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >moving goal posts
            >assistance work
            What do you think the main work is homosexual? Kettlebell swings are not scalable for peak force production purposes, the kettlebell swings are too unstable for relevant loading. Throws are all about peak force production. Cleans, jerks, squats, deadlifts and high pulls all have greater carryover to these events.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Throws are all about peak force production. Cleans, jerks, squats, deadlifts and high pulls all have greater carryover to these events.
              The force vector for Olympic explosive movements is more vertical and the force vector for a kettlebell ballistic movement is more horizontal until the arc is tamed. Shouldering an atlas stone or circus dumbbell works more like a kettlebell movement.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever seen an atlas stone being lifted? Or for that matter, your explanation has me wondering whether you have done a single kettlebell swing in your life. How can you equate lifting atlas stones, that is pretty much dry humping a huge concrete ball to your head level, to the quick horizontal displacement of a kettlebell movement?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Force vectors
                Doesnt matter, those barbell movements have superior carryover and are superior developmentally and neurologically. There is a reason that shot putters, despite being an even more horizontal vector than both caber or keg toss places greater emphasis on clean, jerk, squat, deadlift than anything else for non-specific work.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I principally lift with a barbell and dumbells, but I have kettlebells and mace bells that I use for accessory work and mobility stuff. It's good to have variety. Sure traditional compounds are better than living in a smith machine, but you will still be stronger if you do more other things in addition to your compounds.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kettlebells are the best complement for barbell lifting and strengthen your muscles and reduce the risk of injuries.
    But the fatal weakness of the KB is that doing progressive overload only using them is really damn hard because they don't come in adjustable weights or in a great variety.
    If your focus is hypertrophy there are a lot of better options avaible.

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