A lot of people claim that roiding is bad for you but arnold is 74 and looks a lot younger and healthier than most people at that age
A lot of people claim that roiding is bad for you but arnold is 74 and looks a lot younger and healthier than most people at that age
Hes also a millionaire and very vain
he's rich and a has an entire team dedicated to make him look good and healthy
I'm rich. So yeah? Do it?
What team? The frick are you on about? If he cared that much to hire a team of people to make him look good then he would have some work done at least. But he hasn't, he's aged gracefully, with wrinkles, receding hairline and all.
He literally fixed his hearts so many times. If you cannot afford it, you will blast and die like other dead roiders
Also genetic matters a lot.
So do all the other millionaires and billionaires, yet they mostly look like shit and die at the same average age as everyone (e.g. Steve Jobs).
There is no magic special steroid only rich people have access to, especially since Arnold already had a god tier physique as a poorgay Austrian before he became a millionaire in his late 20s by buying and renting appartments.
this
roiding is easy if you are literally millionaire and have a team of very advanced doctors and medical care
he probably gets a full body checkup multiple times a week by the best of the best
i wouldnt risk doing it to yourself
They literally didn't even do their blood test done when he competed, they just took the lowest possible dose to blow up
>lowest dose possible
Anon there are multiple 70s bodybuilders who claim they were taking dbol like candy.
They probably made that up for sensation purposes, Dbol in extreme doses puts you on dialysis later in life almost certainly.
Dbol tablets were like 5mg or 10mg back then so of course they’d be taking 10 to 20 at a time on a blast. Also a few dbol blasts will not put you on dialysis you fricking mongol lmao
All orals are massively toxic to the liver (maybe with the exception of Anavar).
Literally no worse than what mild alcoholics put their livers, kidneys, hearts, etc through. If anything it’s better
>no worse than what mild alcoholics put their livers, kidneys, hearts, etc through
Lmfao well that's ok then
Fricking moron
Dbol in low doses (as in up to 30 mg at most) is relatively safe and some don't even need PCT after that, but if you want to frick up your liver for good go and blast Dbol, so yes, Dbol blasts DO put you on liver support. If you go on binge drinking every now and then it's the same.
Dialysis = kidneys
Also taking 500mg TUDCA + 1g NAC per day offsets most of the damage that a dbol blast will do, if not entirely
Stop being so dramatic
Hes also a vegan
LMFAO
>cherry picking one guy
see: dead bodybuilders that also did copius amounts of steroids and didn't live past 50
moron you can use a reasonable amount of roids and be just fine if not healthier
of course bodybuilding roid trannies who blast 800mg test weekly are gonna die early
OP's example of Arnie somehow implies that the amount of roids he did justifies that they're safe to do
agreed that stupid amounts will likely kill people
800mg is a cruise dose for these guys. Pro BB’s are pinning multiple grams of gear every week.
case in point: this famous german bodybuilder died recently. Guess his age.
37.
Idk bro. What do you mean by doing steroids. Do you mean 1 cycle? 2 cycles? 60 cycles? Are you going to spend extra on the quality stuff? Are you going to be very diligent about recovery? Do you care about having a small dick and balls?
literally one guy with perfect genetics
Depends. Some roids are worse than others. Don't neglect that many bodybuilders who go overboard and die young are taking ridiculous doses as well as other substances. Fricking up an insulin dose one time can outright kill you. Clen can frick your heart up very quickly. You're not going to see bad health related side effects from test, primo, EQ, mast, and not even tren at less than a gram a week.
>You're not going to see bad health related side effects from test, primo, EQ, mast, and not even tren at less than a gram a week.
This is what roidtrannies actually believe lmao
The stuff they take to cut is really not safe. Like diuretics. Remember seeing Ronnie Coleman said he felt like he was gonna die the first time he took them. Think he said he had to chug a gallon of water before he felt better.
Arnie is natty though, trenbolone wasn't even around in his day
>yeah bro roids are totally safe
Why does roid cause that skin condition?
Message with hormone levels. It's basically like puberty acne cranked up to 11.
>have very clear protocols and side medications that you're supposed to take when cranked up on massive amounts of hormones
>every tells you exactly what to do
>you don't
>everyone uses your moronic example to point out how IT'S LE BAD
at least just call him a moron and don't lump everyone else in with it.
I go after that what Ric Drasin (rip) said:
At most the golden age guys did was Dbol or Primo only or both combined. They at most took 30 mg of Dbol a day. Dbol puts a strain on your liver, but an amount that low does essentially nothing in regards of side effects as long as you aren't also an hardcore alcoholic.
I will speculate that while old timers like arnie were probably using alot of peds they were probably smart enough to take a proper break between comps
Survivorship bias
literally like with anything: dont over do it and you will be fine
He's had multiple heart surgeries over the years.
>He's had multiple heart surgeries over the years.
Low dose trt will drastically improve your life if youre on the low end of test production. Thats perfectly safe and probably wont harm you to a notable degree. Once you start dosing moderately with multiple compounds it can do a number on your heart.
If he had testicular cancer and it was successfully treated, he wouldn't tell you. You have no clue what his health status is.
there's a big difference between therapeutic HRT to maximize your health & wellbeing (muscle mass comes easy to a healthy man) and blasting your androgen levels to 200x the natty limit and eating yourself into a stupor 24/7 to walk around with 250lbs of muscle meat
the fitness industry is just really really really ridiculously stupid, ignorant and uneducated, and 99% of roiders are the complete stereotype of a dumb frick meathead
When Arnie and the others from the golden era of bodybuilding were in their prime, they were taking steroids prescribed by their doctors. They weren't taking gear off the scummy gym junkie from your gym's locker room. Plus, they weren't blasting obscene amounts of it like BBs were in the 90s and 00's like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman (hence their ludicrous size compared to Arnie or Brainum).
Therefore, their side effects were less and they have lived to an older age, whereas the current round of bodybuilders are dying from heart attacks in their 30s and 40s.
Everything you just said is wrong
He's not exactly wrong, they took steroids "prescribed by their doctors" because steroids back then were 100% legal and every Gym had a designated doctor giving out prescriptions so they just went to him, got the prescription and went to the pharmacy getting all kinds of shit kek
I'm not wrong at all, I have no idea why he said that I am - probably because he's just trying to be argumentative because that's what is cool on this website.
In the 70s PEDs were legal and you could go to your doctor and ask them to prescribe them to you. It's a well known fact. Brainum talks about it all the time on Generation Iron's YouTube - watch his video about SARMs and he mentions it.
>In the 70s PEDs were legal and you could go to your doctor and ask them to prescribe them to you.
They're still legal if your doctor prescribes them morono.
Oh you're playing semantics.
Let me try again: "You could go to your doctor and they would give them to you."
Better?
>You could go to your doctor and they would give them to you
As if random doctors would just prescribe roids, bodybuilders paid sympathetic doctors who didn't mind risking their license.
They are still "legal" you just need to have low testosterone to be prescribed and fight it out in a court if you have to.
Arnie used a lot of roids... compared to the average lifter back in his prime.
Bodybuilding """athletes""" today inject as much PEDs into their system during breakfast as he did over the course of several weeks.
arnold uses now just testosterone and hgh low dosage
Steroids in general have positive and negatives to your health, for many people the negatives will impact some important system in their body which will cause them to die younger. Of course the negative impacts will depend on how much you take, how frequently, age when starting and stopping, which auxiliaries you are taking, and many other factors.
Some people will tolerate steroids extremely well, and have minimal side effects but this is very rare and you shouldn’t assume this is you, but these people can live to a long age. Some other people may damage some system that is genetically strong for them, so it won’t be the thing that kills them. Where some other people may have a family history of heart issues or high blood pressure, and taking steroids will cause them to very quickly have heart problems or kidney failure.
Some morons have poor family health and take steroids that will exacerbate those problems, others will take drugs to combat side effects which gave other harmful health impacts, others may take rec drugs or engage in other high risk behavior that together can speed up
all the damage.
The reality is steroids will do some damage to your body, just some people are better at minimizing the damage and some people will be able to tolerate the damage. It is a mistake to however assume you will be someone who can do this, because it’s likely you don’t have amazing genetic health, and likely that you will get some side effects and won’t do everything perfect to minimize risk.