Are there any 35+ lifters here?

Are there any 35+ lifters here?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    no we all hope on roids and d-ACK

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    35 here but admittedly I only have time for IST because I’m a neet.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      32 here. I don't even lift anymore lmao. Just the exercise I get from my wagie job which is a decent amount.

      Do you get any bux?

      I'm 35, still lift but it's mostly maintenance and specialization in certain lifts instead of trying to become bigger overall.

      Once I got into my 30's I realised the amount of effort it would take to make additional gains was just not worth the time. I haven't lost any muscle. My diet is okay and I exercise daily just don't lift. The trick is to not become a beer swilling bbqing boomer and you will still mog normies.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/4KPI4mz.jpg

        Recently turned 35.

        Been IST up until a couple of years ago (before pic), but then stopped lifting and ate garbage, gained 20kg (after pic). Needless to say life really sucked as a fatty, constantly uncomfortable and self conscious, girls ignore you, etc etc. I used to get mired on a daily basis, get compliments from strangers etc, but got so fat that now people were making fun of me (rightfully so).

        Recently I decided to get back in shape, lost 11kg so far (9 to go), mostly through diet and just running.

        About a month and a half ago I started lifting again, and holy shit, I’m growing FAST. I thought it will take forever due to being a boomer and eating 1800 cals, but muscle memory is VERY REAL. I already look like I lift heavy and starting to look nice in clothes. I’m already lifting about 90% of what I used to in my peak (started with light weights and linearly progressed, very rapidly). I will reach 1/2/3/4 in a month or two, no doubt.

        I guess it would have been a very different story had I not lifted in the past.

        Based. 34 here, wife about 1 week away from term for our first child. Prepared for the lack of sleep and probably weight gain, but only hit 1/2/2/2 (sciatic nerve injury, cannot OHP for shit either).150k left on mortgage. WAGMI bros

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Congrats on the kiddo anon

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m 46 and phone post from work.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone is actually over 35 and still on IST, you should just rope

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      36 here. Married with 2 children.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >married with two children.
        Two boy wives?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you should have a nice day

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he thinks he will magically be different once he crosses x age
      You already crossed the Rubicon by actually posting, now you will be here for life.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can never leave zoomer

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 49 and turning 50 next year, no I don't have a wife, no I don't have kids but I do have you guys.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Keep at it, man

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        glad to have you anon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have a gf?

        https://i.imgur.com/jUvBLzb.jpg

        [...]
        Based. 34 here, wife about 1 week away from term for our first child. Prepared for the lack of sleep and probably weight gain, but only hit 1/2/2/2 (sciatic nerve injury, cannot OHP for shit either).150k left on mortgage. WAGMI bros

        Having a kid just when you are getting things settled body, finances, career, routines etc is probably my biggest nightmare. I'm never having kids. Do want a wife though. Good luck anon. Don't become a fat slob it'll be a make a bad example for your son. If daughter then same but not as much so.

        30, never been in a relationship, and don't ask when I last kissed someone. tfw the 'tism so no hope for me. I do have my own place and can afford to pursue my hobby. that hobby being video games to distract myself from existence. I do wish I knew how to properly interact with people, but I guess some of us aren't meant for greatness. does it get better or can I look forward to dying at 57 due to a lifetime lack of hugs?

        Late bloomers club.

        https://i.imgur.com/bNULikO.jpg

        Im 31 and broke up with my gf of 4 years but I think I'll be ok.

        How long ago did you break up? I think the trick like a lot of bad times in life is just to build in non destructive things into your weekly routine. Things that you enjoy so you don't fall under the SadBoy depression.

        I’m 36 and have been here since 2010 or 2011. In that time I’ve obtained a MSc and PhD and I am now a STEM professor, married and have 2 children and another on the way. I’ve taken periods of time off of shitposting and my level of activity fluctuates but I don’t have any social media so this is my internet fun and discourse.

        Based. 32 here doing my PhD. Spent the most time here probably in college. Looking at getting a similar trajectory. I also don't do normie internet stuff. I come here and get my news off IST for games. Ignoring social media unironically gives you a better life

      • 4 months ago
        Roidtranny Slayer 9000

        This post has convinced me to quit IST

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You’ll be back fren

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You wont moron

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          assuming you don't ack you'll be 50 one day too

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >still
      What is with this linear progression assumption I always see batted around? I didn't even first visit IST until I was 36. Stay mad little bro.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Been coming to IST since 2008. Just turned 40, am married with a kid. Low six figure job. Lift 4x a week and mountain bike for cardio.

      Once you come here you never leave. It's also the last bastion of free speech on the internet.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I started lifting late in my life (couple of years ago at 33) and returned to IST, but really only visit IST.
      There's no other place online where I feel at home.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Been coming to IST since 2008. Just turned 40, am married with a kid. Low six figure job. Lift 4x a week and mountain bike for cardio.

      Once you come here you never leave. It's also the last bastion of free speech on the internet.

      I started lifting late in my life (couple of years ago at 33) and returned to IST, but really only visit IST.
      There's no other place online where I feel at home.

      It's always memed on to leave IST and do anything else online, but other chans and Reddit sucks mongo dick. Is there anywhere else that scratches that IST itch of anonymity and varied subject discussion?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      your here forever zoomer

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m 36 and have been here since 2010 or 2011. In that time I’ve obtained a MSc and PhD and I am now a STEM professor, married and have 2 children and another on the way. I’ve taken periods of time off of shitposting and my level of activity fluctuates but I don’t have any social media so this is my internet fun and discourse.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You realize it's the Facebook for outcasts?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Newfag zoomer

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are here forever

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You realise a lot of people here have bee around since 2006. I'm 34 and I'd guess the average age of posters here is not far off that.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly where do you think you are newfag

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      42 checking in. One day you will wake up and be my age. It happens in the blink of an eye. Life is fleeting. Grab what you can.

      Jesus is king.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      40, married with 2 kids here. Private school for the boys. I'm semi retired. Spend most of the day working on my cars and working out. You don't suddenly stop liking a good shitpost just because you went around the sun a few more times.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shit, I'm 41 now, not 40. Easy to forget things when you get to this age

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I only started last month. 38, ohp 135, 17yo gf(XX).

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      37yo virgin neet living with parents here
      i am pretty comfy and enjoying my life, remember happiness is a state of mind friend

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since finding /b/ through an obscure reference on some daily funnies rss in 2005 I have never been able to leave. I have since been married and divorced, I went from holohoax prisoner thin to fat to ISTizen chad, neet to employed and now well off, LULZ tier awkward to really easy in a date, anxious as fuck to bar fight starter, libertarian to natsoc/monarchist

      Im not here 24/7 any more more like an hoir a ween, but those are all tru fax you zoomer gay. Now go jerk off your trans gf as you beat it to moron porn and listen to gnomish podcasts

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If anyone is actually retarded enough to post like this unironically, you should just rope.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      kys

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Where else can I go where I can get fitness tips while also raging about the joos

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      ISTs owner is about 45 you dumb asshole.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      39 here, married with 5 kids. Nothing really changes when you get old except women your age are ugly.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most ISTners are in their 30s and never left this place since the olden days.

      So if you are less than thirty years old, on the contrary, you should probably leave this place while you can. Go outside and socialize like a real person

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're either lost or you don't know yet that this is your final stop on the internet.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You must be 25+ to post here

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >spending your youth and golden years on a forum good
      >spending your retirement years chillin on a forum le bad
      explain this logic

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 35, still lift but it's mostly maintenance and specialization in certain lifts instead of trying to become bigger overall.

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just turned 30 and broke up with my gf of 2 years. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >posting your cringe ass pic at 30.
      You legit need to get your ass beat for being this much of a bitch at 30.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        lol

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can't stop the raping blob

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Slit your throat redditor.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it's reddit to call out gays posting high school tier anime cringe.
          lol lmao even

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Slit your throat redditor.

        guys guys guys... C'mon guys

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Im 31 and broke up with my gf of 4 years but I think I'll be ok.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >think I'll be ok.
        how come, how do I do this

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I have very loving parents. Not "oh my perfect baby" parents but good enough parents that taught me a bare minimal level of self respect. I won't lie I am heartbroken. The past year I felt her pulling away and fucked me up cause I really loved her, was hoping to marry her and have children and run a small business together. But I dont think there was any high enough level of support and love I could have given that would have been enough for her to love me back the way I love her. Sex had dried up. Shed bring up changes we could do when I brought it up, I would do them, somehow it wasnt the right way for her because ultimately she didn't know what she wanted from me. Then she asked for "a break", gave her that space for a week then I asked her "do YOU want to break up". She said kinda/maybe I said fine we are broken up, and shes packing her stuff and I expect her to be fully out by next week. First 3 years were bliss but fuck it if we can't make it through hard times we can't make it through the hard times. I know I will eventually be ok because there was a time before he when I was ok so there must be a time after her when I will be ok again.

          >How long ago did you break up? I think the trick like a lot of bad times in life is just to build in non destructive things into your weekly routine. Things that you enjoy so you don't fall under the SadBoy depression
          Almost a week ago now. My trick is I have "this too shall pass" tattooed on my ass because sure tattoos to remember some words are stupid but its also stupid af that I forget those words when I am my darkest moments. But nothing really can last. Not your happiness. Not your sadness. Not yourself. Not the tattoo nor even this language we communicate in. But you dont stop living just because you know youre gonna die some day. I want to love again some day. At the very least she showed me I am capable of loving massively. Just because all love eventually dies doesnt mean I cant try to love again.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a very good attitude. Using myself as a warning, make sure you don't spend years pouting about "what ifs" while avoiding starting another relationship. Getting another gf is the magic pill to moving on.
            t. wasted my 20s and half my 30s butthurt over losing "the one" before finally getting another gf and letting go

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I am over the what ifs because I spent the past year with her doing what ifs and tried most all and nothing made a difference. She was probably out of love with me more than 6 months ago but stayed because shes too scared of being alone. Thing about me as I like being alone. I know how to be alone without being lonely.

              >nothing really can last. Not your happiness. Not your sadness. Not yourself. Not the tattoo nor even this language we communicate in. But you dont stop living just because you know youre gonna die some day. I want to love again some day. At the very least she showed me I am capable of loving massively. Just because all love eventually dies doesnt mean I cant try to love again.
              amen brotha, same with my girl, and same about impermanence
              might as well experience some of this life

              >might as well experience some of this life
              Its the only solid reason to be alive.

              Word of solid advice I tell a lot and failed to apply to myself this relationship. Try to plan a trip with your girlfriend regularly. She doesn't have to pitch in nor pay, you invite her over some location youd like to see. Could be something as simple as a few days in the nearby countryside to see some stars in a comfy cabin. If she cant get even half as hype as you, half as motivated to see this trip through with similar energy as you, bail on her and do it by yourself for yourself. Cause when she loves you a trip alone in bumfuck ohio is a paradise but if she isnt commited she will drag her feet and have nothing but excuses even if you invite her to her dream europe vacation.

              Thats why Im going to new orleans this halloween. She didnt want a trip to the countryside now Im fucking off to fuck ratchett party bitches and start the seasonal bulk on some cajun food. By the time I come back all her shit will be gone or she can get it off offer up and I can redecorate with voodoo bullshit to cleanse my place.

              When someone does you wrong dont wonder what's wrong with you, wonder what the fuck is wrong with them. How people treat you says more about them than you and your cant let others bullshit actions turn you into some bullshit. Lot of immature adults dont know what the fuck they want. Know what you the fuck want at the very least and you'll be a sane man in a sea of nonsense. you won't drown so long as you dont drink the nonsense. You don't have to love yourself you do have to respect yourself.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                good idea about the regular trip, gonna do that shit with the next one; same with having to respect yourself
                thanks for the advice anon, wishing you all the best

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Great advice. Just don't over do it like I did and bring her to go camping with me in -30°F weather, lol

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cant stand vacationing in the cold. Only cold destination
                Id wanna do is to see the aurora sky someday but otherwise fuck the cold.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank you anon, she did me wrong and I blamed myself.
                also checked

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >When someone does you wrong dont wonder what's wrong with you, wonder what the fuck is wrong with them. How people treat you says more about them than you and your cant let others bullshit actions turn you into some bullshit. Lot of immature adults dont know what the fuck they want. Know what you the fuck want at the very least and you'll be a sane man in a sea of nonsense. you won't drown so long as you dont drink the nonsense. You don't have to love yourself you do have to respect yourself.

                This is solid advice. But I can't help think maybe there is something wrong with me, maybe I could of acted better and more 'perfect.' Rejection sucks and hurts, it would be nice to hear from the other person what I did wrong, at least then I'm conscious of it and I have a chance to correct it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it would be nice to hear from the other person what I did wrong, at least then I'm conscious of it and I have a chance to correct it.
                Its would do nothing to hear in exact details from your ex what went wrong. All you would learn is what is considered wrong by someone who couldn't be damned to put in those words of help of communication during the relationship so you could work together. Meaning youd hear some bullshit justification of her reasons for not loving you, not reasons to self improve.

                Idk I remember reading this book on social relationships during puberty. Best advice on the books was that many times people will reject you for unconscious reasons based on their past history and theres nothing you can do about that but other people will accept you for equally unconscious reasons. For example
                >you are a perfectly decent dude with a great job, you're attractive, funny, etc
                >she goes to her friends: idk why I just dont feel the spark
                Truth is maybe you have curly hair just like her abusive dad. Maybe your style is the opposite of her first loves and shes cant help but seek repeats of that cause she isnt mature enough. Maybe she cant handle a guy doing well for herself because she hates herself too much. Who tf cares. She hopefully saves you both some time and rejects you. So you can find that girl that loves curly hair cause it reminds her of her favorite uncles and she loves your dorky dimples cause they remind her of good times and she likes your style because it is so opposite to any guy shes dated in HS. All these reasons are simple and unconscious and if you asked her how she could love your so much she doesnt have a concrete answer. So as hard as it is to find rejection we have to realize rejection is done for just as chaotic reasons as acceptance. Neither is in your control really. What you can control is how you react to rejection/acceptance and acknowledging your own unconscious preferences and being the best version of yourself.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                finally got around to reading Models, has similar messaging
                the "muh vulnerability" bit is imo using the wrong perspective, but so far it's the least shitty inner game material I've stumbled upon, expands the "get your shit together don't lift for whamen" angle in a good way

                >When someone does you wrong dont wonder what's wrong with you, wonder what the fuck is wrong with them. How people treat you says more about them than you and your cant let others bullshit actions turn you into some bullshit. Lot of immature adults dont know what the fuck they want. Know what you the fuck want at the very least and you'll be a sane man in a sea of nonsense. you won't drown so long as you dont drink the nonsense. You don't have to love yourself you do have to respect yourself.

                This is solid advice. But I can't help think maybe there is something wrong with me, maybe I could of acted better and more 'perfect.' Rejection sucks and hurts, it would be nice to hear from the other person what I did wrong, at least then I'm conscious of it and I have a chance to correct it.

                >But I can't help think maybe there is something wrong with me, maybe I could of acted better and more 'perfect.' Rejection sucks and hurts, it would be nice to hear from the other person what I did wrong, at least then I'm conscious of it and I have a chance to correct it.
                She's a woman, so even worse than men on average in that regard. She either has no conscious idea why she lost attraction, or has/will come up with some rationalization that sounds like most shit you hear about dating and attraction from women. Chances are she'll be giving you bad info, because 90% of womanspeak serves to sustain their delusions and copes, avoid confrontation, keep the tribe happy, virtue signal, make her feel less guilty about it, etc.
                If she volunteers the info, sure that's another data point, to be taken with a huge pinch of salt and contrasted with advice from men that aren't clueless about this shit.
                Otherwise it's probably not worth the effort, neediness and other downsides of trying to get that info out of her.
                Focus on investing in yourself and your life if you can, anon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                The thing you gotta keep in mind reading centuries old philosophy like texts is that louis ck joke
                >listen to your elders because even when theyre wrong theyre wrong from a place of experience that YOU do not have

                For example I used to be stressed long ago over my brothers being trash and putting their bullshit on me. A good uncles advice was to quickly find a woman to marry and have kids with, any woman, because for him having your own small family was the only solid excuse to distance yourself from your other families BS. But if Id done that Id likely be divorced by now because marriages aren't what they used to be and finding a good reliable woman at 21 is nigh impossible. But his overall message of finding a way to distance yourself from families bullshit, that sure you have to love your brothers but you dont have to be a doormat for their bull if you put your own goals first is fair.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good advice bro. Logged on to a VPN to comment because I got banned (fuck jannies). I am 30. Doing well on all external accounts but have been going through hell internally as I have realized I have avoided true introspection up until this point.

                I have cheated on almost every GF I have and do not want to continue doing this, especially not with my future wife. Through analysis, I think this comes from a sort of self doubt from childhood and the fact that my highschool gf/first love really fucked up my self perception so I cheat as an avoidance/self destructive mechanism and to confirm that I am not weak/unattractive/etc.

                Anyways, I feel the pressure or desire to get on to the next phase and put down roots somewhere and with someone. What do you look for in potential wife? My current gf is pretty, tall, trying to go to med school, and is very sweet. For whatever reason, I don't feel super connected, but I think what is holding me back from cutting it off is that she has done no wrong. I would feel stupid for letting this one go. What do I do bro?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                My vacation advice still stands but for a different reason. Not just to check if her feelings are genuine but to test yours. Take a nice week vacation somewhere you know youd both enjoy. Pick a time that works with her med school schedule as well as yours, tell her you want to treat her right because you do want to treat her right. Dont over analyze during the vacation just sit in the time spent alone with her and enjoy it. After the vacation you can ask your mental questions. Did you enjoy the time? Did you enjoy not just the destination but how she acted as a copilot while you drived to the destination? Did seeing her happy and carefree make you want her more? Were you able to talk to her intimately as much as you were able to physically have sex? Could you actually enjoy playing house with her and only her for that week? If you dont have solid answers for those kind of questions let her go and focus on observing what keeps you from those feelings of connection or maybe for whatever unconscious reasons you can't connect with someone like her and make those reasons more aware to you so you don't get blindsided by them again.

                For me I will look for a girl who isn't lazy. Not only physically lazy but mentally too. She doesnt have to be the smartest or make as much money as me but if she is afraid of hard conversations, afraid of work and afraid to lose I know we won't last. I don't want a trad stay at home submissive woman that would be too boring and those kind of women end their lives full of resentment if their man didnt deliver on the ideal life they themselves never worked towards. Like any girl that can never say what she wants and only tells you what she doesnt want after you deliver on anything, thats mental laziness to me. And I cant stand a "thats not my job" ass bitch. Love any woman that works hard, she can bitch all she wants about everything as long as shes honest and works harder than those shes bitching about.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >nothing really can last. Not your happiness. Not your sadness. Not yourself. Not the tattoo nor even this language we communicate in. But you dont stop living just because you know youre gonna die some day. I want to love again some day. At the very least she showed me I am capable of loving massively. Just because all love eventually dies doesnt mean I cant try to love again.
            amen brotha, same with my girl, and same about impermanence
            might as well experience some of this life

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'll be okay. It's rough, but life continues, and there'll be more coming your way soon

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Slit your throat redditor.

      FAAAAAAAAGOT

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      that one is a bit tame. here's a more accurate depiction.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What anima / manga on trhe left? For research purposes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You did good anon
      30-35 is the best time to play for field for a man

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah if you want run through women

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hands down

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yurp. 37.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, 41

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm only 32 so compared to you still just a kid

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    37 here. Been lifting on and off since I was 14. Mostly on since turning 30. Started juicing earlier this year. Currently inbetween cycles. Gonna go again in 6 weeks.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Recently turned 35.

    Been IST up until a couple of years ago (before pic), but then stopped lifting and ate garbage, gained 20kg (after pic). Needless to say life really sucked as a fatty, constantly uncomfortable and self conscious, girls ignore you, etc etc. I used to get mired on a daily basis, get compliments from strangers etc, but got so fat that now people were making fun of me (rightfully so).

    Recently I decided to get back in shape, lost 11kg so far (9 to go), mostly through diet and just running.

    About a month and a half ago I started lifting again, and holy shit, I’m growing FAST. I thought it will take forever due to being a boomer and eating 1800 cals, but muscle memory is VERY REAL. I already look like I lift heavy and starting to look nice in clothes. I’m already lifting about 90% of what I used to in my peak (started with light weights and linearly progressed, very rapidly). I will reach 1/2/3/4 in a month or two, no doubt.

    I guess it would have been a very different story had I not lifted in the past.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think pic rel was my peak muscle mess, tho I was somewhat flabby.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        *pained exhale*...how the mighty have fallen..

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        What cycles got you here

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Chicken and sea bass

          Humble bragging never looks good anon, the onl good excuse is getting kids and getting that old man strength.

          Kek wasn't bragging, I do not look like this now if that wasn't clear. Posted for perspective to show how easy it is to fuck things up in your 30s.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Humble bragging never looks good anon, the onl good excuse is getting kids and getting that old man strength.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you need to train inner chest

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        hnnngg

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >telling others you're natty

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cool post bro.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks bro

        Same here, but recently turned 36. The covid shit really fucked me. I even had a decent home gym setup but couldn't be assed to do even half of what I was doing at the gym. Plus just ordering delivery all the time to avoid the hassle of going out.
        I felt so gross and uncomfortable in my own skin, I don't know how fat people can stand it (other than mental illness).
        Making good progress now though. Basically cutting hard so I've dropped most of the fat now, decently strong with a medium amount of muscle mass. I get what you say about muscle memory, I feel like I can basically jump back in at any time and avoid any real struggles.

        WAGMI. You can jump right back, your progress is gonna be x100 compared to new lifters.

        *pained exhale*...how the mighty have fallen..

        I'll get there by the end of the year. Honestly I feel like the mass is 95% there, it's just covered in about 9kg of fat right now.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'll get there by the end of the year.
          When I wasnt able to go to a gym for months on end I found it pretty easy to work it back up. Its there in "skeleton" form, just needs to be brought back online.

          All those muscle pains...feels great to be swollen and sore.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Its there in "skeleton" form, just needs to be brought back online.
            I completely agree, it almost feels like it's a balloon and you just need to inflate it. I wonder how much is new muscle mass and how much is just water entering the existing muscle tissue that was always there, just.. deflated.

            you need to train inner chest

            There is no such thing as inner chest. I just have shit chest

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I just have shit chest
              boo

              what does your back look like? I had an underdeveloped mid-back and it was causing me to fuck up my chest exercise form, once I fixed that my pecs got more round and diamond pushups were easy

              i'd post a picture but my tattoos are really unique

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty solid back actually. I'm proud of my traps which are massive, I think now more than

                https://i.imgur.com/cMSNw9b.jpg

                I think pic rel was my peak muscle mess, tho I was somewhat flabby.

                , and lats are pretty good too, even when I was a fat fuck I could rep a few pullups.
                I just never really had any pecs, it seems to be genetic, some people just do a bunch of push ups and get big boobas, I did lots of bench and isolations and I got next to nothing, you can really only see them properly with a pump.

                Bros these captchas are getting too difficult for us boomers...

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also

            >All those muscle pains...feels great to be swollen and sore.
            After the first time getting back to the gym, when I went to bed later that night, I couldn't stop smiling autistically because of how sore I was and how I missed that feeling. It was pure autistic bliss. I no longer get DOMS unfortunately, enjoy it while it lasts

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I couldn't stop smiling autistically because of how sore I was
              Haha.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same here, but recently turned 36. The covid shit really fucked me. I even had a decent home gym setup but couldn't be assed to do even half of what I was doing at the gym. Plus just ordering delivery all the time to avoid the hassle of going out.
      I felt so gross and uncomfortable in my own skin, I don't know how fat people can stand it (other than mental illness).
      Making good progress now though. Basically cutting hard so I've dropped most of the fat now, decently strong with a medium amount of muscle mass. I get what you say about muscle memory, I feel like I can basically jump back in at any time and avoid any real struggles.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I went through something similar but I was way leaner and had less mass altogether so ultimately looked worse when I got fat

      I'm never getting heavier than 200lbs again, feel so much better now that I'm eating cleaner and prioritizing sleep. Only thing I'm actually worried about is overtraining.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your pic gave me hope that there's a good body under all that fat of mine and I just need to drag it out.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    60-year-old boomer here.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    37 YO lifter ISTizen. I probably mog 99% of you neets. I have 2 businesses, a family and still hit ppl 2x a week and have for years. I’m never going to stop.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >33
    >best shape of my life

    Redpill to newfags: weighted calisthenics with rings, swimming and cycling is all you really need to make it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Putting any effort into your looks or even bloatlord strength puts you ahead of a normie, thank you for the heads up. Just go fuck off you moron slinging redditard redpills.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you even do a single pullup, fatso?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Asking someone to do a pullup as a challege only confirms your own inmmobile ass.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      >Its there in "skeleton" form, just needs to be brought back online.
      I completely agree, it almost feels like it's a balloon and you just need to inflate it. I wonder how much is new muscle mass and how much is just water entering the existing muscle tissue that was always there, just.. deflated.

      [...]
      There is no such thing as inner chest. I just have shit chest

      Nah not enough dips tbh

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I swim in the summer and cycle year round. How do I get into weighted calisthenics? What's a decent set up I can buy?

      Its that or join the gym at work which probably gonna do anyway since they have slightly higher weights than planet fitness and no one uses them.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but califag too. Rings are a must and actually great for upper body. Where you hang them is the crux of the matter.

        I personally have a bar in the park next to my house. You can even hang them from a basketball hoop or a football goal. Anything horizontal really that will take your weight.

        If you have the space and want to do it indoors you can buy the "Titan Fitness Adjustable Depth Wall Mounted Pull Up Bar" from amazon. Just cause it gives you the most separation from the wall. Unless you can hang something from the ceiling.

        I personally have an elliptical bike and add to it adjustable dumbbells. The ironmaster or powerblocks seem to be the best, but IM can't be found on amazon. This way you can hit muscles that are a pain with Calisthenics like legs, shoulders and to some extent biceps. You can also use these to add weight to your regular calisthenics shit.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Thanks for all that. I think Im gonna mostly use local calisthenics. I'll get some solid rings. Probably still hit legs with squats and deadlifts since the gym at work is pretty decent and no one seems to use all the brand new weights.

          Great thing about being IST in a city that regularly ranks high in diabetes is theres all these unused public incentives for people to get fit and you get it all to yourself for the most part while the few fatties just slow walk a lap around the park. I keep wanting to go back on a private gym membership but what's the point if I have access to free weights and the poor calisthenics gym at the libraries go underused. I bike a lot more these years so my ass is already too good.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not there yet but I'm 33 1/2, have lifted very seriously since 18, but am currently in the best shape of my life. I'm at my highest strength save for a few exercises where I am deliberately trying to focus on volume and form. I'm also at my best form for all major exercises, best mobility/flexibility, least pain even after a rotator cuff tear, most flexibility, and least body fat. So no matter what testosterone-obsessed chuds on here say, it is possible achieve your physical fitness goals after 25y/o

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    does it seem like DOMS keeps getting worse as you age? train legs, sore for next 4 days barely can walk.
    >t. 30 lifting since 16

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >does it seem like DOMS keeps getting worse as you age?

      Nah, I feel like my body is now used to it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I usually need 3 days before working out again after hitting 30. I do train to failure with negative reps though.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    31 fuck time flies

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    39 here
    Been lifting for about 2 years...wish i would've started sooner, i really enjoy it

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    38 here. Still lift but I definitely stay away from ego lifting now. Don't wanna snap my shit up.

  19. 4 months ago
    BIG DOG

    YES

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah 42 here, shoulder is completely fucked. I can't back-squat anymore either coz it hurts my left knee no matter what i do. I can split squat though, luckily.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yep, 39 years young. No injuries currently I had a bad shoulder in the past but it seems to be fine ever since I dropped overhead work. Very happy with my push/x/pull/x routine, gives these old bones enough time to recover and be pumped for the next session. I know I'm not FUCK HUGE but I'm very happy with my current physique, just working on lagging stuff like abs, calves, etc.
    inb4 your mirror is dirty

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are mediocre af.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        don't listen to this cunt, his brain is fitness influenced into oblivion.
        you have a better physique than the majority of 39 year olds.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Post body

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        for 39 he is unironically in the top 5% of men physically, maybe even top 1%

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You look good dude but do more chest

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You look great, I bet you’re single (and that’s a good thing)

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You look great.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    36, i dont lift anymore just bjj few times a week and do outdoors stuff with my kid. once you have kids trying to follow macros and periodic loading 8 hours sleep goes right out the window

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    30, never been in a relationship, and don't ask when I last kissed someone. tfw the 'tism so no hope for me. I do have my own place and can afford to pursue my hobby. that hobby being video games to distract myself from existence. I do wish I knew how to properly interact with people, but I guess some of us aren't meant for greatness. does it get better or can I look forward to dying at 57 due to a lifetime lack of hugs?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've got the tism just like you but I've had a few girlfriends. Not saying it's easy but it's definitely not hopeless.

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just turned 36.

    Started lifting again around 2 years ago. I wanted to change careers and become a firefighter, needed to become fit and strong. I didn't get into fire service last recruitment cycle, but determined to try again once recruiting opens up again. I hope I can make it...

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    37 next week

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    40. I'm in and out. Getting up to the crest of the hill changes what feels important.

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guys with sedentary jobs, what do you do to preserve your joints and spine?
    Is only lifting enough or do you need stretching/mobility drills?
    I'm 30, my back doesn't hurt yet, but I feel that it's only a matter of time.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I do absolutely nothing and my back is fine

      Been coming to IST since 2008. Just turned 40, am married with a kid. Low six figure job. Lift 4x a week and mountain bike for cardio.

      Once you come here you never leave. It's also the last bastion of free speech on the internet.

      If really isn’t that free anymore sadly I get banned all the time but I don’t really care. I also feel purposefully trolling isn’t done by Zoomers anymore both Gen Z and boomers take the internet entirely too seriously

      Same here, but recently turned 36. The covid shit really fucked me. I even had a decent home gym setup but couldn't be assed to do even half of what I was doing at the gym. Plus just ordering delivery all the time to avoid the hassle of going out.
      I felt so gross and uncomfortable in my own skin, I don't know how fat people can stand it (other than mental illness).
      Making good progress now though. Basically cutting hard so I've dropped most of the fat now, decently strong with a medium amount of muscle mass. I get what you say about muscle memory, I feel like I can basically jump back in at any time and avoid any real struggles.

      You can’t cook in your mid 30s? Are you a moron

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Obviously I can cook. But like I said
        >to avoid the hassle of going out
        I live in Cucknada, so a trip to the grocery store meant showing your vaccine passport, wearing a mask the entire time and getting yelled at for walking the "wrong way" down an aisle or standing too close to someone at the checkout. Fuck that noise.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      slack at your job

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      standing desk, or just get up every 30 mins and walk around.

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    32, so sorta close. Came here in my teens (~2005). Left around college. Come back every now and then for nostalgia.
    obese through childhood, last year of high school + that summer I started working out, lots 45lbs and became fit.
    College was the best damn time of my life. I had the typical party experience every weekend while still pulling A's; I had the system down.
    Post-college, my work sucked and life sucked. Moved to a new city, didn't know anyone, became a fat alcoholic. Got my shit together mid-20s, higher ed and better job, was still fat, then I low-sided my motorcycle and smashed my foot- recovery meant asymmetrical atrophy and it caused a slipped disc which caused sciatica, fucking excruciating. Around 30, I was sorta physically broken, fat and not flexible and back damage. I see the writings and why suicide rates steadily increase over time; I did everything I wanted to in college and was getting old. But I decided to start working out again for the first time in nearly a decade and life changed dramatically. Managed to strengthen my back which essentially made my sciatica disappear, became nearly as strong as college level, went from 30k -> 60k -> 95k in 2 years, due for a raise to break 100k (I became a linchpin in my small company and my boss is desperate not to lose me). Dramatic change in quality of life in just 2 years of lifting. I have several several hobbies I love, I have a GF/almost fiance (covid delayed travel-proposal plans but we're getting back to it soon), my job I actually love and it's low stress, and I feel incredible every day.
    Shit goes through waves, I'm sure I'll hit low points further in life, but for the moment I have plans to just keep experiencing shit.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    22, but i have a body of a pub addicted 55 years old

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    37, two kids

    I hate fucking normies outside of this shithole

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    39 and turn 40 next week.

    Question about bicep hypertrophy training: how many sets should one do if they're training bis every other day/3-4 days a week? I did about 16 sets other day shhoting for 12-20 reps. I was going to tweak it for other days to try and aim for 12 sets. Is this feasible? I see some hypertrophy routines where they only do 9-10 sets a week and that just seems too low to legitimately build muscle. Advice?

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yup. Been on here for 17 years.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tell us about those 17 years anon.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      16 year club here.

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Be me
    > 43 yo
    >Grew up thinking I was trans and larped as a women for a bit
    >Family cut me off
    >Just ended up spending my days on here
    >Detransitioned to get my family back
    >They all laugh at me still
    >Start trying to get jacked and taking aTrt
    >Feel amazing and regret ever transitioning to a woman
    >Spend hours on IST debating the best routines, nutrition, technique etc
    This is all I really know. I'm 43, have no gf, haven't been touched in ages, and I don't really have friends. I need this website to keep me sane.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 35 and in decent shape (pic related). You can make gains roid-free until you are like 45. People just get lazy as they become boomers.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      > You can make gains roid-free until you are like 45.
      What do you think happens at 45? This seems much too early.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you think happens at 45? This seems much too early.

        Body slows down the production of test

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, but claiming that you can't have natty gains at that age seems absurd.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to look like you someday, jii-san

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes

    being 35+ sucks

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theres a 56 yo dude at my gym who mogs the shit out of me and all the zoomers. He was doing pullups to show me how I was doing it wrong. I cant do more than 3, he did 12 after blasting his arms all morning.

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    40+ years old
    Wife
    2 Children
    1,610 lb raw total

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    30+ bros, things are looking up for me in life at 29, but I'm only just now breaking $50k a year with -$10k net worth, and I'm finally back down to 260lb (blew up from 230lb to 295lb from Jan 2020 to Jun 2022. Had a medical scare during that time and I broke up with a long time gf).
    Would you all say your 30's have been mostly better than your 20's? I am dreading turning 30 next month, but things seem to be on the swing. I feel a sense of impending dread because I stress about life goals that I'm not even sure I want to achieve (namely, rushing to have kids.)
    Maybe I'm just looking for people to tell me its not all downhill from here.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am this gay:

      https://i.imgur.com/jUvBLzb.jpg

      [...]
      Based. 34 here, wife about 1 week away from term for our first child. Prepared for the lack of sleep and probably weight gain, but only hit 1/2/2/2 (sciatic nerve injury, cannot OHP for shit either).150k left on mortgage. WAGMI bros

      .

      Do things get better? Hell yeah. You will find everyone treating you differently, maybe more respectfully. It's like, "This guy made it to 30? he must be doing something right" lol
      Dreading shit is only a natural part of progression in life. Show me someone who likes change and I'll hand them an Academy Award for best actor/actress.

      Do shit you enjoy, but study, eat, lift weights, sleep well. Try and set goals, things to look forward to. Everything else is secondary, including seggz, nights out with the lads etc. You can still do all that, but improve first, settle second.

      So yeah.. it is not all downhill from here.

      Do you have a gf?
      [...]
      Having a kid just when you are getting things settled body, finances, career, routines etc is probably my biggest nightmare. I'm never having kids. Do want a wife though. Good luck anon. Don't become a fat slob it'll be a make a bad example for your son. If daughter then same but not as much so.
      [...]
      Late bloomers club.
      [...]
      How long ago did you break up? I think the trick like a lot of bad times in life is just to build in non destructive things into your weekly routine. Things that you enjoy so you don't fall under the SadBoy depression.
      [...]
      Based. 32 here doing my PhD. Spent the most time here probably in college. Looking at getting a similar trajectory. I also don't do normie internet stuff. I come here and get my news off IST for games. Ignoring social media unironically gives you a better life

      Thanks brah. My outlook was kind of the opposite.. I wanted to have kids AFTER I got everything settled (married, dog, house bought, car and student debt paid off). There are moments of abject terror, but they are few and far between. First is a girl, wife wants at least 2 because she was an only child and wants our kids to have siblings to grow up with. I hope I don't end up with 2-3 girls but every guy says that until they ACTUALLY have kids.

      >I also don't do normie internet stuff. I come here and get my news off IST for games. Ignoring social media unironically gives you a better life
      Incredibly based take. Fuck Facebook, fuck Insta, fuck twitter, fuck Tiktok. The world is better off without them.

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    55 here. Feel healthier now than when I was 30

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      55 here. Was in better shape when I was 30 but fell out of it for a while. Started back up this year and surprised at how well my body reacted. Lost a lot of belly fat and muscles getting big again. Almost lifting weights I was hitting at 30.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        that is pretty impressive

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Being 35+ and regularly lifting puts you in top 1%. Almost everyone else has given up at that age and is on a downward spiral

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very true. I'm 35 and none of my friends even exercise anymore except one and literally all he has ever done is push ups. Some of them talk about "getting back into it" but they never will. I would say it feels good to mog them but it really doesn't. They are friends and it's sad to see them let themselves go.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        "remember when is the lowest form of conversation"

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Been here since 2007.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    bro i love how these boomers talk to each other, boomers please insult, i want new insults to try on my friends
    i love my boomer bros

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    37 year old, divorced once, currently separated, 4 kids

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    itt: old geezers get defensive and talk too much because one anon said one thing

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    im 35, feel 28, look 42. powerlifter but not fat, not cut either. Usually around 210-230 at 6'2. Trying to get back into lifting after stopping due to being too depressed to be bothered. I do that off and on over the years. Life is weird.

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    41, but I've been dyel since about 10 or so years ago. Lost a ton of weight, though. Finally lifting seriously again since I can afford a power rack and all the weights. No, no gf and no children. Captcha: XPPOOR.

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 36 years old and I work in construction and lift. I recently started TRT because I tested at 231 ng/dl. I haven't really noticed a difference but I'm only a few weeks in.

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bump

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about I bump your face into a fat chicks asshole

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    33... Leanest and fittest I've ever been and I'd still look like I'm early 20s if it wasn't for the hair loss (keep it buzzed with no guard). I think I can probably keep this up for another 10 years or so before I maybe need some TRT to keep going.
    Mostly I'm not too bothered about getting older I just wish I knew what I know now back in my 20s. I'd have had a lot more fun. No doubt I'll be saying the same thing about my 30s when I'm 50.

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    41 in December
    I just do high volume kettlebell work to keep me fit enough to play social basketball/squash

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    47 and still kicking. Going on 12.5 years of solid lifting without significant time off.

    Son is 14 and also lifting. We just worked out last night in the home gym. Good times.

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    48 years old 100% natty.
    5'10" 172lbs 83.1lbs Skeletal Muscle mass 16%bf
    Gains are real hard at my age.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    36 here

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      sorry, I'm 5'10 and was about 168-171lbs in this pic. BF%, single digits

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    After reading most of the posts here, I wonder what is the future of IST. Will zoomers find this place repulsive and stick to metaverse only?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That ship has sailed. Only old people use IST. Broccoli-haired zoomers don’t have the attention span required for functioning autism.

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Still up. IST is old

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    36 here
    >divorced
    >2 kids
    >shoulder pops
    >wrist pops
    >knee pops
    >no friends
    Life is pain and suicide is honestly on my mind a lot
    But I have to keep trying
    Had a dream a few months ago where I got hurt real bad and in the ensuing fallout my kids were unprotected and attacked by someone
    Trying to power through my joint pain to keep in better shape because I've basically spooked myself into staying alive

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no friends
      Go make some. Online, offline, either works though offline preferred if you find the right company. It'll make everything better.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm working on it but it was pretty harsh having all my 'friends' bail on me entirely as soon as I got married
        Thought it was OK since I still had my family, but now that got blown up by me ignoring the red flags in my wife's personality
        It was an expensive lesson to learn, and I dont mean financially. The toll on my soul is high, but I can start to feel my spirit pump as I work on myself

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I haven't hit the milestones you have, but I've definitely hit the "don't put all your eggs in one basket, social edition" lesson more than a few times. It's a valuable lesson indeed, and we shouldn't let past failures get to us, but instead get back up when the time's right and continue working on it.

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm 30-35-40 etc and don't have a gf, a wife, or kids
    >nice going king, no need for dem hoes!

    >I'm the same age, have kids, wife, gf, etc.
    >you fucking subhuman have a nice day booo

    No it's you people who should have a nice day. Fucking incel retards, a scourge on humanity.

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think I look just a good as I did in my 20s, maybe slightly bigger.
    I just have more aches, had leg pain and a sore back the last few times I curled.

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We had a good run, lads. WAGMI

    'Til next time.

  61. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always catch these threads. I turn 43 next week. 6'1" 205. Never would have made it without IST and the old Misc, I think,

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Myron gainz

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      keep doing what youre doing

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I turn 38 on Monday .

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yesterday I went out alone to a chill dive bar. Managed to make some friends I think that invited me out to a halloween costume contest next week. Played some fun games of pool with dudes that dont take the game too seriously but manage to play better than most. Maybe life isn't horrible if I can manage that. Even got a girls number.

  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >turn 32
    >things are looking up, finally move to the city I always wanted to live in, get a well-paying job
    >finally have some hope for my future and desire to really enjoy life
    >snap city myself deadlifting
    >no big deal I think, it'll just take me out of action for a couple of weeks
    it's been almost a year and I still can't sit down for more than an hour or the back pain gets very bad.

    want to off myself tbqh

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Go to a sports medicine ortho. Get a steroid shot in nerve in spine. Be 100% pain free

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        how long does that last?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          about 6 months

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How do I get a 20 year old gf at 36

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Be rich or look younger

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