I cannot fathom my head around it
Women have one job, just fucking one, and its to look good. Men have to do that, build a career, acquire assets, have a personality, and have a high value social circle.
And women still cant fucking look good.
Women don't need a career if they look good. They can get flown all around the world riding yachts and shit at beta males' expense, or just marry a dude who will provide for them. Men generally don't have that option, only the top Chaddiest Chads.
I don't get how men think that we don't need to work.
I'm well above average looking, but if I don't want to marry a 70 year old creepy billionaire (I don't), I would need to work all of my life to support my family.
Look at the median man's salary, it's impossible to live above poverty with that alone.
Lets say that we are aiming for higher - what are even the chance of falling naturally in love with some rich asshole who probably have a shit personality?
Shitty bait but I’ll bite - there’s tons of good looking, well adjusted men in their 20s and 30s that make 6 fig income good enough to raise a family in an upper middle class way. Ofc women don’t really care for that bc, like (you), they’ve been convinced that working a 9-5 and building a “career” is amazing. Anyways, wish there were more women in their 20s open to starting a family/having kids, but it’s becoming more and more rare.
I didn't mean to set any bait...
My friends group have some that comes from wealthy families, none of the men makes enough to support a family.
I make the most money out of everybody, because I grew up poor and prioritized it.
I don't think that careers are so amazing.
In an ideal world, I would be born rich and spend my life learning new things, having degrees, working for fun, crafting, traveling, volunteering, socialising and obviously raising my children.
I love home making, sewing, knitting, cooking, and growing vegetables. Even cleaning can be nice.
But it's not an Ideal world, and I want to support myself and my future kids to have good life no matter what happens with their father. I can only rely on myself and my career.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Where do you live? I make 120k, have a 130 IQ and a 305 bench press PR.
4 months ago
Anonymous
High value. I'm not from USA, and have a bf.
He makes about half of my pay. fml. But he is an actual good, sweet human being which is so rare to find today...
I hope you find your wife soon, and have a nice home with a happy family and success in work.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>which is so rare to find today
Always boggles my mind why is it hard for women to find good, sweet, at least semi-successful men, who are on the highest earning quarter of the whole population. If the woman is half as good as they think, that is.
There are a lot of men like that trying to find non-insane, non-fat women, yet it seems to be practically impossible, as they simply don't exist, or if they do (there are at times good profiles on Tinder), there's no way of connecting with them.
For a woman it's just a matter of paying for Tinder Gold 1 month and then picking up a dozen promising contacts from the list of likes and checking them out.
Anyway, congrats on finding a nice person, you sound like a reasonable woman with some aspirations in life - you're clearly an unicorn. Make the best of it and good luck with everything.
4 months ago
Anonymous
High value. I'm not from USA, and have a bf.
He makes about half of my pay. fml. But he is an actual good, sweet human being which is so rare to find today...
I hope you find your wife soon, and have a nice home with a happy family and success in work.
In your case, I understand. My sisters and I
Shitty bait but I’ll bite - there’s tons of good looking, well adjusted men in their 20s and 30s that make 6 fig income good enough to raise a family in an upper middle class way. Ofc women don’t really care for that bc, like (you), they’ve been convinced that working a 9-5 and building a “career” is amazing. Anyways, wish there were more women in their 20s open to starting a family/having kids, but it’s becoming more and more rare.
grew up really poor (in the US) so we all had the same drive to do whatever to not be poor anymore. Fortunately, we have all made it through studying and getting a career that pays really well. For my sisters, they (successfully) date men that roughly equal or exceed their income, which in and of itself is far more than needed to raise a family well. But their plans for now is to marry, quit their jobs, pop out kids, and work part/full time when/if they want to. That way, they can comfortably raise kids, get a reasonable side income, and maintain their skills on the off chance the guy is out of the picture. Anyways, maybe consider that route because the older I get, the more I realize how important it is for the parents to be at home with their children…our parents were never home so our relationship with them has and always been strained to some degree (but at least they were there sometimes).
4 months ago
Anonymous
I fully agree. I study now and push hard on my career so in few years I can allow myself to take a step back and raise my children. I don't want to have to choose between providing for them and raising them.
To my luck, my field of work allows me to work from home, so even if I have to keep working full time, I can be with my family.
If you're close to your sisters, it can be very nice babysitting for each other, to get some time off, also to go on family trips:)
4 months ago
Anonymous
100k is more than enough to support a family outside of cities. Youre not going to get the newest iphone every year and a new car every 3 years, but it is enough.
4 months ago
Anonymous
100k its two high salaries where I live. Mine is more than half and is considered high. If I work hard I can reach that in about 2 years... And that would make me the provider.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Where in the world is 100k low? Im from Sweden and make 70k together with my wife and we have a 7 room house with a garage, 2 cars and don’t care about money when it comes to food. Making 100k per person would be crazy to imagine.
4 months ago
Anonymous
american salaries are a bit higher than europe I think
making 100k in italy is upper and top management level
4 months ago
Anonymous
An American Starbucks barista makes more than a Swedish medical doctor in USD.
Not making this up.
He’s talking about what is needed to be considered an eligible bachelor
Don’t even pretend it’s not easier for women to get dates in the year of our lord 2022. That’s not something you can do in good faith. You can talk about women being a historically oppressed class, I’ll agree. You can talk about women being more susceptible to danger, I’ll agree. You can talk about there being no worse time to be a woman—I’ll only agree a little. You cannot in good faith say that the effort required for both men and women to find love is anything but heavily weighted towards women in a general sense.
How is it that every warring internet community ends up just being a group of retards arguing with another group of retards?
https://i.imgur.com/5xz2uC2.jpg
You know... I hate incels and their ideology, I find them extremely annoying and want to kick them in the dick when they give their opinions, so I am not biased whatsoever toward them. But it really rubs me the wrong way that pleddit still has "incel tears" up, so many years after deleting the incel board. Isn't it explicitly designed to bully and make fun of incels? "Incel tears" like it wants to laugh at them for crying, or make them cry, right? Literally against their TOS. I fucking hate reddit and its disgustingly obvious partisan leftist slant. And I extend that sentiment to all the rest of the hypocritical, leftist, corporate controlled media.
Here's the shared subscriber list. It's not as funny as femaledatingstrategy's but its interesting that its mainly subreddits that make fun of men, religion, and the right-wing. I think laughing at and insulting other people is fine, however I've never seen so many these "hate" subreddits appear in any other result I've done. The highlighted ones are the ones I found noteworthy.
Isn't it likely a lot of people they're trashing follow as well? Probably would explain, since the general active poster base are all typical faggy reddit libs
>mendrawingwomen
They clearly have anxieties about being ugly and want to believe that men have no idea what an attractive woman looks like so they have to nitpick some rando artists to reinforce that narrative for copefuel when their ego gets bruised by other more attractive women. They are also obsessed with projecting that everyone online is an incel loser or actively seek out incel losers which isn't what a normal person would do.
Women are extremely solipsistic but in those moments of self-awareness they can't bear it and lash out.
It is like women with makeup claiming men can't even see when they have it on when men call them out on it or men who say women can't tell who is tall or short, pp size etc. truth often gets mixed with cope because there is almost always some truth there but we all see what they're doing. A classic comb-over.
>what kind of women the weirdos who post on subs making fun of incels are fucking.
Many of them are borderline incels themselves. Lucking into a chubby girlfriend once or twice in a decade isn't all that different from being an incel. Neither is much like the male ideal of being able to pull attractive women regularly.
The key difference is that these are people who still think they will be rewarded by the world for being "good" and holding "correct" moral beliefs.
You know... I hate incels and their ideology, I find them extremely annoying and want to kick them in the dick when they give their opinions, so I am not biased whatsoever toward them. But it really rubs me the wrong way that pleddit still has "incel tears" up, so many years after deleting the incel board. Isn't it explicitly designed to bully and make fun of incels? "Incel tears" like it wants to laugh at them for crying, or make them cry, right? Literally against their TOS. I fucking hate reddit and its disgustingly obvious partisan leftist slant. And I extend that sentiment to all the rest of the hypocritical, leftist, corporate controlled media.
I don't know, looking through some of the posts and a lot of them are by complete retards who blame women for all their problems or complain about having totally normal physical traits like brown eyes. Then there's the people who are genuinely just incredibly insecure and have nobody to help them out and those are worth pitying and not worth making fun of
>Leftist
Word that they use to identify themselves that has no relation to real politics. The whole America is a clusterfuck of preschool tier ideology "wars"
It keeps us from paying attention to real issues. Why ask about a governing body “of the people, for the people” that lives wealthy off clandestine deals and doesn’t have to abide by rules that it set forth, when there are things like guns and abortion to bicker about? 100 million dollar deals made with China? Hey look, trannies in the classroom! Isn’t that great? Or horrible? Fight about it! Gas is 5-7 bucks a gallon to fund back room deals, I mean protect Ukraine? Be assured your president feels the sacrifice as much as you do. He said so, after all. Besides, this cop just shot a black guy! Support the riot, er, protest, you racist fucks! Or don’t! Just make sure you’re fighting over it!
Wow, all those comments saying that people who think those girls are fat have never left their mom's basement or seen a woman naked. I've fucked a lot of chubby bitches, so I'm something of a chubby bitch expert, and I will say with 100% confidence that those 3 bitches are chubby
It's more about where it goes rather than the number on the scale.
These women have too much adipose tissue. The woman on the right especially has that problem going on. Also developing a double chin. The rest idk because I don't see their side profile.
These are healthier because of fat distribution. More attractive. Yet the number on the scale would be the same (assuming equal height ofc....)
>These are healthier because of fat distribution.
And all the muscles.
You can argue they don't lift - they probably don't - but the reason they have good glutes is because volleyball is all crouching and jumping. Basically doing bodyweight squats for a couple hours at a time + cardio. This is reflected in more developed legs and butt and also lower fat because they're active.
Girls in the OP likely do little to no exercise at all. Otherwise their butts wouldn't be completely flat.
The only people there are femcels who don't want to feel bad about themselves being fat and simp incels who think being overly nice to women will get them laid, and between both of these retard groups is a single insult of calling others fat.
God, plebbit is a fucking cancer
How the fuck is she a porker, she's not even close to being fat. She has a nice curvy body, she's barely even thick, she's fairly average weight. I don't get you guys who think any woman that isn't anorexic is fat, it's weird.
No it looks like the opposite, you can see she has wide hips, and you can see a bit of the fat at the top of her hips which is a sign a girl has fat in her ass.
How the fuck is she skinny fat? Her weight is balanced very well, she's got most of the weight in her boobs and ass and a tiny bit in her stomach. She looks like a normal healthy woman. The one on the right is skinnyfat, way too much fat in her stomach but not enough in her ass and tits.
She has a beer belly. If she lost a few kg, she'd be good, unlike the other two who are just fucked.
The only skinny fat is the one on the right, I'd have to see lefts boobs to fully determine but based on her ass she isn't. Skinnyfat for women is when they have weight in their stomach but very little in the ass or tits.
left is too. Look at her abomination stinky ass.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>She has a beer belly. If she lost a few kg, she'd be good, unlike the other two who are just fucked.
I disagree the amount of fat in her stomach is normal for the amount of fat she has in her ass and tits, it's completely healthy. I wouldn't want her to lose anymore weight I don't think being skinny is attractive on women. I'd describe the one on the right as having a beer belly, she definitely consumes way too many carbs and has low estrogen.
Pretty self explanatory. Pork means pig, pig is an insult used to describe fat people. I'm not British and I figured it out in a second. Some people are really bad at deciphering slang words, most are really self-explanatory if you take a second to think.
Yes, the one on the right doesn't have the right balance of weight in her stomach, boobs and ass though, too much in the stomach and not enough in the ass. The one in the middle has a great body, I can't fully tell with the one on the left but she seems to have a good body. I actually prefer women to be thicker than in this photo. I don't like woman skinnier than these women in general.
Anything that degrades women is inherently masculine. You would agree too if you were a bitch that was raised by your whore of a single mother, who taught you to "respect all queeenzzzzz" and instilled her femininity into you, making you a latent homosexual.
just admit youre a gay. there are no women here, its only men, and we all see through your bullshit. You dont have to defend holes to pretend youre straight, everyone here knows youre gay.
The only skinny fat is the one on the right, I'd have to see lefts boobs to fully determine but based on her ass she isn't. Skinnyfat for women is when they have weight in their stomach but very little in the ass or tits.
None of these women have double chins, also I'm not American. There's guys all over the world that would find the middle woman attractive, not all dudes want their woman to be skin and bone. A lot of men naturally have a preference for thicker women if she has good fat distribution.
>what kind of shithole do you live in? I'm a KHHV incel and I unironically would not have sex with the left or right one.
Good luck getting laid, you're gonna have to lower your standards a bit if you ever want any chance of getting laid. Stop watching so much porn and your standards will be more realistic. That's the problem with a lot of incels, their standards are completely unrealistic, they think they're entitled to women way outta their league. But then get angry when women have high standards.
I'm in college and there's plenty of women that look better than those three. You start only encountering women like that when you look at the 30+ age group, which I never plan to do.
I've been approached and asked out by good looking women that fog those three to suicide.
The problem is that i'm a socially inept sperg that can't even maintain eye contact.
It's actually ugly women like in OP that are rude to me and make fun of me. Average - good looking girls either ignore me or are nice to me.
>I've been approached and asked out by good looking women that fog those three to suicide.
I find it almost impossible to believe a KHHV has been asked out by women, especially women as hot as you claim. Women rarely if ever ask guys out, it's usually only the hottest and highest status men that a woman would take the risk of asking out, and even then it's very rare. Women don't want to take the risk of getting rejected so they don't ask men out, they give men subtle signals and wait for the man to come to them. I'm 6'3 and have been told I'm good looking all my life, the only time I was ever asked out by a woman was in 8th grade and she'd heard through the grapevine I had a crush on her so she wasn't taking the risk of rejection. The other time was a girl who was my best friends ex who I already knew that wanted to sleep with his friends, and she asked me to go clubbing with her. Asides from that I've been approached but actually asked out? That just really does not happen, especially random women asking out a random guy that self describes as a socially inept sperg who can't maintain eye contact. (No offense meant by that, you said it not me.)
I think he's just exaggerating, he got those subtle signs but not actually been asked out.
I get those mires too but rarely been asked out.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Asked out once by a girl who I never actually talked to before or knew at all who she was, other times I was approached by girls who initially clearly wanted to hookup.
I've been asked out once in highschool by a good looking girl.
Got a message from her on social media one night basically begging me to come out. I have never talked to this girl before and the only thing we had in common was that we went to the same school.
I was too scared to talk to her when she came up to me in school afterwards so I would either ignore her or give her one word answers until she stopped doing that. I tried apologizing but she told me to fuck off. That was my last chance at teen love and I blew it badly.
Most other times I was approached in bars and clubs, by mostly sober girls. Many would start the convo telling me i'm good looking. Every one lost interest after a few minutes of talking to me.
Also got catcalled a few times and a few street approaches from mainly low inhib teenage girls.
My friend told me that once he uploaded a pic with me and he had a dozen girls and a few gays asking about me too.
And yeah, i'm a KHV at 21 now. I did lose my hug virginity to the girl in highschool who asked me out at the end of our "date".
Every time after that in school I sperged out when she came up to me.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>friend told me that once he uploaded a pic with me and he had a dozen girls and a few gays asking about me too.
on instagram. And he doesn't have many followers either.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Post a pic
4 months ago
Anonymous
That hits close to home. I had a similar situation: short, awkward khv but out of the blue got messages from one of the hottest girls in the school practically begging me to come out. I was suHispanicious and used to creative bullies so I thought they could be fake messages and I gave a cringy simpish excuse and stayed a virgin for another 6 years. Later discovered that the messages were legit but you can't turn back the clock. Normal sex life now, though. Good luck bro. If I could do it you can too.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks bro, and sorry to hear.
For me it was almost 4 years ago now. Still have anniversaries where I walk the same path we did that day and think about better times. It's sad as shit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
I feel like im kind of in the same spot; im 19 I've been asked out six times, once by a girl I had a crush on since elementary school. But even though I know I've gotten better, I can't get rid of the feeling that there just messing with me; when I hear girls laugh, it makes me mad because I think it's at my expense, even if I know it has nothing to do with me. No real trauma to cause it, either. I guess it's because 99% of my experiences with women aged 5-15 were negative. In all fairness, I was pretty weird then, but I don't think I'll ever forget walking by the teacher's break room in 6th grade and hearing grown-ass women making fun of me.
4 months ago
Anonymous
picrel is absolutely true. I'm rather good looking and because I'm an exfatty I for a long time still had bad self-esteem in terms of my looks. I can tell you, that I sometimes did things that I would have thought would make them lose interest, but no. When you are goodlooking you can sperg, it doesn't matter. The better you look, the less it matters.
>usually only the hottest and highest status men that a woman would take the risk of asking out, and even then it's very rare
I disagree, but not completely. I don’t think it’s just the highest tier men, but rather men several tiers above the woman. I’ve been told I’m a good looking guy. I’m not ripped by any means, but I lift, I’m tall, and I have a nice face, apparently. Yes, I’ve been asked out by one or two good looking women (have a gf so I didn’t, of course). However, I have been mostly been asked out by utter fucking ogres. This is not great for the ego, but I think it lends to my theory. Yeah, a hot girl might only shoot for MechaChad, because she sees him as above her station. But the bottom feeders might also go for guys above them, up to at least Diet Chad, because they’ve got nothing to lose.
Technically 5/10 is average, and yeah in America where like 40% of women are disgustingly obese, 6/10 or even 7/10 is accurate if we're talking a weighted score and not just my own preference. You have no idea how many women are outright cut out of the market if you refuse to date fatties.
They aren’t beautiful if that’s your real question. They’re out of shape, average, and boring. They should spend less time with solo cups and more time lifting.
Also, OP is a gay and would be better served by lifting instead of seeking validation for his low standards.
I can't tolerate the fat anymore I just can't. Undisciplined, lazy, a tragedy of 1,000 wrong decisions. Don't go searching for the limit. "How fat can I get before people think I'm visibly unhealthy?"
The problem is getting fat tells me you're not fucking healthy. It's not the current state it's the lifestyle that gets you there AND no one wakes up with 30 extra pounds which tells me they saw it happening and chose to do nothing about it or have such a fucked lifestyle they couldn't stop it >I'm healthy but I drank so many cokes and ate so many candies and chips and cakes and fast food and also never worked out meaningfully if at all
Why is this picture controversial? Why are women trying to prove a point with this? Weight is meaningless in a vacuum, it's obviously relative to your height and muscle mass.
What a fucking shocker that 70kg looks good on a 6'1 whore. And now they empowering themselves with "normalize weight!!!!! bmi is a lie!!"" "THIS IS HOW X WEIGHT CAN LOOK". No you fucking idiot if you are 4'9 you cant be 70kg
Everybody 50 years ago would view those women as noticeably unhealthy and fat
Anons in this thread calling them "skinnyfat" are coping just like the people on reddit
lol wut, my gf basically has the same body as the brunette in the middle 'cept with a bit more ass, and she constantly complains about being like 20kgs over how much she used to weigh
Man, it's kinda sad how much they try to ignore the reality that they're fat and that no matter how much they complain and cry about standards they'll still be fat.
>first post
These people think the term "fat" means "fatter than average". >it's a uterus pudge >all this cope and delusion
Total divorce from objective reality.
It's more about where it goes rather than the number on the scale.
These women have too much adipose tissue. The woman on the right especially has that problem going on. Also developing a double chin. The rest idk because I don't see their side profile.
>Reddit/IncelTear
Who unironically browses that site on a daily basis? It's also hilarious how everyone is defending the women and attacking the guys for '''''''''body shaming''''''''', and then attack the '''''''''incels''''''''' by calling them fat virgins.
Healthy-looking is a word you can rarely use. That would imply not only physical fitness but mental also, and a habitus kind of radiating said health. Don't really see that in the picture. Obviously you can be healthy and still look not so fit, but again, it's a special case.
What I do see in the picture are three "normal" bodies. Normal, as in a bit overweight but more like out of shape than just overweight/fat. I wouldn't touch any of them, well maybe the middle one if she was sweet otherwise.
The reddit thread is insane, every single approved comment in there must be from an overweight, ugly cow.
They look like drinkers who do very little physical activity. Skinnyfat. Not healthy but could be worse.
Proper responses from the fitness board. These chicks have no definition. They might even be the right BMI, but the lack of the muscles makes them all unpleasantly flabby. Even I, weirdo who likes both thin and thick, understand that they look mediocre.
https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTear/comments/y4gtht/how_on_earth_is_this_overweight/
lmao, look at all the comments that are basically "omg these r what normal gorls look like, not childrens in your animes!!!"
Kinda tells you what kind of women the weirdos who post on subs making fun of incels are fucking.
I cannot fathom my head around it
Women have one job, just fucking one, and its to look good. Men have to do that, build a career, acquire assets, have a personality, and have a high value social circle.
And women still cant fucking look good.
>Women have one job, just fucking one, and its to look good
It's not the 1800s anymore. They also need to build a career.
They don't. They can marry a guy who provides. At most they have to stack oats onto supermarket shelves.
Women don't need a career if they look good. They can get flown all around the world riding yachts and shit at beta males' expense, or just marry a dude who will provide for them. Men generally don't have that option, only the top Chaddiest Chads.
>They also need to build a career.
This is bullshit and you know it.
an educated woman is a lonely childless woman
hahah. you truly will never be a woman. or a real man for that matter.
I don't get how men think that we don't need to work.
I'm well above average looking, but if I don't want to marry a 70 year old creepy billionaire (I don't), I would need to work all of my life to support my family.
Look at the median man's salary, it's impossible to live above poverty with that alone.
Lets say that we are aiming for higher - what are even the chance of falling naturally in love with some rich asshole who probably have a shit personality?
Shitty bait but I’ll bite - there’s tons of good looking, well adjusted men in their 20s and 30s that make 6 fig income good enough to raise a family in an upper middle class way. Ofc women don’t really care for that bc, like (you), they’ve been convinced that working a 9-5 and building a “career” is amazing. Anyways, wish there were more women in their 20s open to starting a family/having kids, but it’s becoming more and more rare.
I didn't mean to set any bait...
My friends group have some that comes from wealthy families, none of the men makes enough to support a family.
I make the most money out of everybody, because I grew up poor and prioritized it.
I don't think that careers are so amazing.
In an ideal world, I would be born rich and spend my life learning new things, having degrees, working for fun, crafting, traveling, volunteering, socialising and obviously raising my children.
I love home making, sewing, knitting, cooking, and growing vegetables. Even cleaning can be nice.
But it's not an Ideal world, and I want to support myself and my future kids to have good life no matter what happens with their father. I can only rely on myself and my career.
Where do you live? I make 120k, have a 130 IQ and a 305 bench press PR.
High value. I'm not from USA, and have a bf.
He makes about half of my pay. fml. But he is an actual good, sweet human being which is so rare to find today...
I hope you find your wife soon, and have a nice home with a happy family and success in work.
>which is so rare to find today
Always boggles my mind why is it hard for women to find good, sweet, at least semi-successful men, who are on the highest earning quarter of the whole population. If the woman is half as good as they think, that is.
There are a lot of men like that trying to find non-insane, non-fat women, yet it seems to be practically impossible, as they simply don't exist, or if they do (there are at times good profiles on Tinder), there's no way of connecting with them.
For a woman it's just a matter of paying for Tinder Gold 1 month and then picking up a dozen promising contacts from the list of likes and checking them out.
Anyway, congrats on finding a nice person, you sound like a reasonable woman with some aspirations in life - you're clearly an unicorn. Make the best of it and good luck with everything.
In your case, I understand. My sisters and I
grew up really poor (in the US) so we all had the same drive to do whatever to not be poor anymore. Fortunately, we have all made it through studying and getting a career that pays really well. For my sisters, they (successfully) date men that roughly equal or exceed their income, which in and of itself is far more than needed to raise a family well. But their plans for now is to marry, quit their jobs, pop out kids, and work part/full time when/if they want to. That way, they can comfortably raise kids, get a reasonable side income, and maintain their skills on the off chance the guy is out of the picture. Anyways, maybe consider that route because the older I get, the more I realize how important it is for the parents to be at home with their children…our parents were never home so our relationship with them has and always been strained to some degree (but at least they were there sometimes).
I fully agree. I study now and push hard on my career so in few years I can allow myself to take a step back and raise my children. I don't want to have to choose between providing for them and raising them.
To my luck, my field of work allows me to work from home, so even if I have to keep working full time, I can be with my family.
If you're close to your sisters, it can be very nice babysitting for each other, to get some time off, also to go on family trips:)
100k is more than enough to support a family outside of cities. Youre not going to get the newest iphone every year and a new car every 3 years, but it is enough.
100k its two high salaries where I live. Mine is more than half and is considered high. If I work hard I can reach that in about 2 years... And that would make me the provider.
Where in the world is 100k low? Im from Sweden and make 70k together with my wife and we have a 7 room house with a garage, 2 cars and don’t care about money when it comes to food. Making 100k per person would be crazy to imagine.
american salaries are a bit higher than europe I think
making 100k in italy is upper and top management level
An American Starbucks barista makes more than a Swedish medical doctor in USD.
Not making this up.
If you think the richer a guy is the worse his personality then you're going to love me bb.
found the incel. jesus dude you have no idea how different people's life experiences are
sure fag.
>Women have one job, just fucking one, and its to look good.
What are you even talking about
He’s talking about what is needed to be considered an eligible bachelor
Don’t even pretend it’s not easier for women to get dates in the year of our lord 2022. That’s not something you can do in good faith. You can talk about women being a historically oppressed class, I’ll agree. You can talk about women being more susceptible to danger, I’ll agree. You can talk about there being no worse time to be a woman—I’ll only agree a little. You cannot in good faith say that the effort required for both men and women to find love is anything but heavily weighted towards women in a general sense.
good post
>"omg these r what normal gorls look like, not childrens in your animes!!!"
That's exactly true though.
Fun fact: 99% of humanity will never in their whole lives come close to the modern beauty ideal
They look like unhealthy women that down pints and pizzas multiple times a week.
Outside of muttmerica and Britain, women don't look this terrible.
Here's the shared subscriber list. It's not as funny as femaledatingstrategy's but its interesting that its mainly subreddits that make fun of men, religion, and the right-wing. I think laughing at and insulting other people is fine, however I've never seen so many these "hate" subreddits appear in any other result I've done. The highlighted ones are the ones I found noteworthy.
Isn't it likely a lot of people they're trashing follow as well? Probably would explain, since the general active poster base are all typical faggy reddit libs
>mendrawingwomen
They clearly have anxieties about being ugly and want to believe that men have no idea what an attractive woman looks like so they have to nitpick some rando artists to reinforce that narrative for copefuel when their ego gets bruised by other more attractive women. They are also obsessed with projecting that everyone online is an incel loser or actively seek out incel losers which isn't what a normal person would do.
Women are extremely solipsistic but in those moments of self-awareness they can't bear it and lash out.
It is like women with makeup claiming men can't even see when they have it on when men call them out on it or men who say women can't tell who is tall or short, pp size etc. truth often gets mixed with cope because there is almost always some truth there but we all see what they're doing. A classic comb-over.
>Kinda tells you what kind of women the weirdos who post on subs making fun of incels are fucking.
I think they're female actually
>what kind of women the weirdos who post on subs making fun of incels are fucking.
Many of them are borderline incels themselves. Lucking into a chubby girlfriend once or twice in a decade isn't all that different from being an incel. Neither is much like the male ideal of being able to pull attractive women regularly.
The key difference is that these are people who still think they will be rewarded by the world for being "good" and holding "correct" moral beliefs.
Go back gay
You know... I hate incels and their ideology, I find them extremely annoying and want to kick them in the dick when they give their opinions, so I am not biased whatsoever toward them. But it really rubs me the wrong way that pleddit still has "incel tears" up, so many years after deleting the incel board. Isn't it explicitly designed to bully and make fun of incels? "Incel tears" like it wants to laugh at them for crying, or make them cry, right? Literally against their TOS. I fucking hate reddit and its disgustingly obvious partisan leftist slant. And I extend that sentiment to all the rest of the hypocritical, leftist, corporate controlled media.
The people there are just as insufferable as incels. Incels are annoying because they're whiny and unmasculine, which these fags also are.
I don't know, looking through some of the posts and a lot of them are by complete retards who blame women for all their problems or complain about having totally normal physical traits like brown eyes. Then there's the people who are genuinely just incredibly insecure and have nobody to help them out and those are worth pitying and not worth making fun of
It's quite unfortunate for the latter group, as they're now conflated with the former. Makes it even harder for them to escape
>Leftist
Word that they use to identify themselves that has no relation to real politics. The whole America is a clusterfuck of preschool tier ideology "wars"
It keeps us from paying attention to real issues. Why ask about a governing body “of the people, for the people” that lives wealthy off clandestine deals and doesn’t have to abide by rules that it set forth, when there are things like guns and abortion to bicker about? 100 million dollar deals made with China? Hey look, trannies in the classroom! Isn’t that great? Or horrible? Fight about it! Gas is 5-7 bucks a gallon to fund back room deals, I mean protect Ukraine? Be assured your president feels the sacrifice as much as you do. He said so, after all. Besides, this cop just shot a black guy! Support the riot, er, protest, you racist fucks! Or don’t! Just make sure you’re fighting over it!
Not clicking it. Go back
These women are out of shape
Wow, all those comments saying that people who think those girls are fat have never left their mom's basement or seen a woman naked. I've fucked a lot of chubby bitches, so I'm something of a chubby bitch expert, and I will say with 100% confidence that those 3 bitches are chubby
What this anon said
These are healthier because of fat distribution. More attractive. Yet the number on the scale would be the same (assuming equal height ofc....)
>These are healthier because of fat distribution.
And all the muscles.
You can argue they don't lift - they probably don't - but the reason they have good glutes is because volleyball is all crouching and jumping. Basically doing bodyweight squats for a couple hours at a time + cardio. This is reflected in more developed legs and butt and also lower fat because they're active.
Girls in the OP likely do little to no exercise at all. Otherwise their butts wouldn't be completely flat.
The only people there are femcels who don't want to feel bad about themselves being fat and simp incels who think being overly nice to women will get them laid, and between both of these retard groups is a single insult of calling others fat.
God, plebbit is a fucking cancer
You're welcome anons
These reddittors "people" are relentlessly bullied/mogged in real life and feel inferior, they just don't want to admit it
All the comments are shitting on Anime. I thought redditoids were big fans
Nicocado is married?!
Only incels will find this "unhealthy."
Sexy at every size!
>your precious pantry, gratefully accepted! We will eat it.
>calling Americans fat is racism
>they aren't fat but have mom bods
>incels have stupid ideas of beauty standards
the cope
Incels suck but inceltears has become the polar opposite and not in a good way.
Horseshoe theory type shit.
>incel meet up
they're befriending each other and leaving their rooms now? holy shit
They look like drinkers who do very little physical activity. Skinnyfat. Not healthy but could be worse.
>Skinnyfat
Is that anything like shorttall or lightdark?
>lightdark
Obama.
>shorttall
Basketball player significantly shorter than others in his team.
>Basketball player significantly shorter than others in his team.
So short?
He is tall compared to an average male, but short compared to an average basketball player.
I don’t think fat people should be allowed to vote or have a drivers license
They're fat but this is also what the average woman looks like nowadays so standards have dropped
They’re more skinny-fat than fat. Nonetheless, middle is hot af, those are some nice titties. Right is extremely meh.
>middle is hot af
She looks like a typical British porker that you'd see eating a shitty 5 pound pizza at 3am after getting out of a nightclub.
How the fuck is she a porker, she's not even close to being fat. She has a nice curvy body, she's barely even thick, she's fairly average weight. I don't get you guys who think any woman that isn't anorexic is fat, it's weird.
she's skinnyfat, but has better genetics than the other two.
She doesn't look good though.
you can also tell she has a flat ass.
No it looks like the opposite, you can see she has wide hips, and you can see a bit of the fat at the top of her hips which is a sign a girl has fat in her ass.
How the fuck is she skinny fat? Her weight is balanced very well, she's got most of the weight in her boobs and ass and a tiny bit in her stomach. She looks like a normal healthy woman. The one on the right is skinnyfat, way too much fat in her stomach but not enough in her ass and tits.
She has a beer belly. If she lost a few kg, she'd be good, unlike the other two who are just fucked.
left is too. Look at her abomination stinky ass.
>She has a beer belly. If she lost a few kg, she'd be good, unlike the other two who are just fucked.
I disagree the amount of fat in her stomach is normal for the amount of fat she has in her ass and tits, it's completely healthy. I wouldn't want her to lose anymore weight I don't think being skinny is attractive on women. I'd describe the one on the right as having a beer belly, she definitely consumes way too many carbs and has low estrogen.
Nice bait
If you actually think that's bait you're retarded.
All three women look absolutely disgusting and if this isn't bait then god I hate normies more than I can even fathom in words.
alexa
>what is a porker?
Pretty self explanatory. Pork means pig, pig is an insult used to describe fat people. I'm not British and I figured it out in a second. Some people are really bad at deciphering slang words, most are really self-explanatory if you take a second to think.
i like porkers
>I figured it out in seconds
Bro
Big brain !
Huge iq
Wow
Much clever !
>middle is hot af
she looks like a fucking sausage, there arent any shapes to be seen
shes not hot af but id 100% fuck and cum deep inside her pussy
Yes, the one on the right doesn't have the right balance of weight in her stomach, boobs and ass though, too much in the stomach and not enough in the ass. The one in the middle has a great body, I can't fully tell with the one on the left but she seems to have a good body. I actually prefer women to be thicker than in this photo. I don't like woman skinnier than these women in general.
>gossiping about women's bodies
Peak feminine behaviour from all involved, you anons included
Lol thinking that talking about women's bodies is feminine behaviour is the real feminine behaviour.
Anything that degrades women is inherently masculine. You would agree too if you were a bitch that was raised by your whore of a single mother, who taught you to "respect all queeenzzzzz" and instilled her femininity into you, making you a latent homosexual.
>I'm prison gay because I'm a sissy wallflower nerd who couldn't get over mommy issues enough to touch a titty ever
just admit youre a gay. there are no women here, its only men, and we all see through your bullshit. You dont have to defend holes to pretend youre straight, everyone here knows youre gay.
go back
Sup pol, don't you have interracial chud porn to spam on /gif/?
>Those triggered replies
You are right anon, keep telling the harsh truth.
>raised by your whore of a single mother
I was, I just don't let my fate be shaped by a fucking w*man
Imagine agreeing that your own mom is a whore
imagine denying reality just because she's related to you.
Well, I'm sorry for you bro. I hope you can overcome this
your mother is probably a whore too. Most women are.
I really don't think so. But I'm not surprised you think that. What did your mom do to you?
Kek, based opinion.
Also the gay you're replying to is 100% a foid (or some huge gaylord who thinks and acts exactly like one)
Healthy is pure cope. It means whatever the person wants it to mean
How is it that every warring internet community ends up just being a group of retards arguing with another group of retards?
Internet arguments are like the special olympics, even if you win you're still a retard
Female skinnyfat, lucky for them it's not nearly as unattractive as male skinnyfat
The only skinny fat is the one on the right, I'd have to see lefts boobs to fully determine but based on her ass she isn't. Skinnyfat for women is when they have weight in their stomach but very little in the ass or tits.
Fatsos dyel women. Shut the fuck up moron
I agree with the other gentlemen, left and middle have good potential due to their genetic fat distribution
>defending pork women
the absolute state of burgers. imagine being so devoid of beaty that double chinned hambeasts count as fuckable
None of these women have double chins, also I'm not American. There's guys all over the world that would find the middle woman attractive, not all dudes want their woman to be skin and bone. A lot of men naturally have a preference for thicker women if she has good fat distribution.
They're just average 6/10 skinnyfats.
>6/10
>average
>6/10
what kind of shithole do you live in? I'm a KHHV incel and I unironically would not have sex with the left or right one.
>what kind of shithole do you live in? I'm a KHHV incel and I unironically would not have sex with the left or right one.
Good luck getting laid, you're gonna have to lower your standards a bit if you ever want any chance of getting laid. Stop watching so much porn and your standards will be more realistic. That's the problem with a lot of incels, their standards are completely unrealistic, they think they're entitled to women way outta their league. But then get angry when women have high standards.
I'm in college and there's plenty of women that look better than those three. You start only encountering women like that when you look at the 30+ age group, which I never plan to do.
I've been approached and asked out by good looking women that fog those three to suicide.
The problem is that i'm a socially inept sperg that can't even maintain eye contact.
It's actually ugly women like in OP that are rude to me and make fun of me. Average - good looking girls either ignore me or are nice to me.
>I've been approached and asked out by good looking women that fog those three to suicide.
I find it almost impossible to believe a KHHV has been asked out by women, especially women as hot as you claim. Women rarely if ever ask guys out, it's usually only the hottest and highest status men that a woman would take the risk of asking out, and even then it's very rare. Women don't want to take the risk of getting rejected so they don't ask men out, they give men subtle signals and wait for the man to come to them. I'm 6'3 and have been told I'm good looking all my life, the only time I was ever asked out by a woman was in 8th grade and she'd heard through the grapevine I had a crush on her so she wasn't taking the risk of rejection. The other time was a girl who was my best friends ex who I already knew that wanted to sleep with his friends, and she asked me to go clubbing with her. Asides from that I've been approached but actually asked out? That just really does not happen, especially random women asking out a random guy that self describes as a socially inept sperg who can't maintain eye contact. (No offense meant by that, you said it not me.)
I think he's just exaggerating, he got those subtle signs but not actually been asked out.
I get those mires too but rarely been asked out.
Asked out once by a girl who I never actually talked to before or knew at all who she was, other times I was approached by girls who initially clearly wanted to hookup.
I've been asked out once in highschool by a good looking girl.
Got a message from her on social media one night basically begging me to come out. I have never talked to this girl before and the only thing we had in common was that we went to the same school.
I was too scared to talk to her when she came up to me in school afterwards so I would either ignore her or give her one word answers until she stopped doing that. I tried apologizing but she told me to fuck off. That was my last chance at teen love and I blew it badly.
Most other times I was approached in bars and clubs, by mostly sober girls. Many would start the convo telling me i'm good looking. Every one lost interest after a few minutes of talking to me.
Also got catcalled a few times and a few street approaches from mainly low inhib teenage girls.
My friend told me that once he uploaded a pic with me and he had a dozen girls and a few gays asking about me too.
And yeah, i'm a KHV at 21 now. I did lose my hug virginity to the girl in highschool who asked me out at the end of our "date".
Every time after that in school I sperged out when she came up to me.
>friend told me that once he uploaded a pic with me and he had a dozen girls and a few gays asking about me too.
on instagram. And he doesn't have many followers either.
Post a pic
That hits close to home. I had a similar situation: short, awkward khv but out of the blue got messages from one of the hottest girls in the school practically begging me to come out. I was suHispanicious and used to creative bullies so I thought they could be fake messages and I gave a cringy simpish excuse and stayed a virgin for another 6 years. Later discovered that the messages were legit but you can't turn back the clock. Normal sex life now, though. Good luck bro. If I could do it you can too.
Thanks bro, and sorry to hear.
For me it was almost 4 years ago now. Still have anniversaries where I walk the same path we did that day and think about better times. It's sad as shit.
I feel like im kind of in the same spot; im 19 I've been asked out six times, once by a girl I had a crush on since elementary school. But even though I know I've gotten better, I can't get rid of the feeling that there just messing with me; when I hear girls laugh, it makes me mad because I think it's at my expense, even if I know it has nothing to do with me. No real trauma to cause it, either. I guess it's because 99% of my experiences with women aged 5-15 were negative. In all fairness, I was pretty weird then, but I don't think I'll ever forget walking by the teacher's break room in 6th grade and hearing grown-ass women making fun of me.
picrel is absolutely true. I'm rather good looking and because I'm an exfatty I for a long time still had bad self-esteem in terms of my looks. I can tell you, that I sometimes did things that I would have thought would make them lose interest, but no. When you are goodlooking you can sperg, it doesn't matter. The better you look, the less it matters.
>usually only the hottest and highest status men that a woman would take the risk of asking out, and even then it's very rare
I disagree, but not completely. I don’t think it’s just the highest tier men, but rather men several tiers above the woman. I’ve been told I’m a good looking guy. I’m not ripped by any means, but I lift, I’m tall, and I have a nice face, apparently. Yes, I’ve been asked out by one or two good looking women (have a gf so I didn’t, of course). However, I have been mostly been asked out by utter fucking ogres. This is not great for the ego, but I think it lends to my theory. Yeah, a hot girl might only shoot for MechaChad, because she sees him as above her station. But the bottom feeders might also go for guys above them, up to at least Diet Chad, because they’ve got nothing to lose.
Technically 5/10 is average, and yeah in America where like 40% of women are disgustingly obese, 6/10 or even 7/10 is accurate if we're talking a weighted score and not just my own preference. You have no idea how many women are outright cut out of the market if you refuse to date fatties.
>average 6/10
retard
>6/10
no fucking way maybe 6/100
I would impregnate all three
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Healthy compared to what?
They aren’t beautiful if that’s your real question. They’re out of shape, average, and boring. They should spend less time with solo cups and more time lifting.
Also, OP is a gay and would be better served by lifting instead of seeking validation for his low standards.
They should see what EA women call chubby. These are morbidly obese to them.
Those slags look like 10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag, you absolute morons.
>Girl on the right
>Hanging belly but with literal zero tits and a double chin
Ouch
I can't tolerate the fat anymore I just can't. Undisciplined, lazy, a tragedy of 1,000 wrong decisions. Don't go searching for the limit. "How fat can I get before people think I'm visibly unhealthy?"
I was laughing so hard I forgot to write it. Kek.
The problem is getting fat tells me you're not fucking healthy. It's not the current state it's the lifestyle that gets you there AND no one wakes up with 30 extra pounds which tells me they saw it happening and chose to do nothing about it or have such a fucked lifestyle they couldn't stop it
>I'm healthy but I drank so many cokes and ate so many candies and chips and cakes and fast food and also never worked out meaningfully if at all
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>I may look thin
Maybe it's all in her ass and thighs? Maybe she has swallowed 10kg of fishing weights as a kid?
Ahahahahaha
chloe is a fat girls name
>68kg
They look like every girlfriend I ever had 1.5 years or so into the relationship, which is not an endorsement, but w/e I'd still fuck them
they're a bit of the chubby side but it's not enough to keep my dick at bay. still would prefer smaller but any port in a storm right fellas
they Chucky on the way to fat.
Fat cow doesnt know how to use a measuring tape
It's probably a composite image.
70 kilos is not 154 pounds lol
Imagine that, the ones with overweight BMIs look fat and the ones with normal BMIs don't look fat
the tallest girl is what I'd call chubby
the tallest girl gave me a chubby
Nikki a qt
Diana aged so badly wtf is wrong with women
Why is this picture controversial? Why are women trying to prove a point with this? Weight is meaningless in a vacuum, it's obviously relative to your height and muscle mass.
What a fucking shocker that 70kg looks good on a 6'1 whore. And now they empowering themselves with "normalize weight!!!!! bmi is a lie!!"" "THIS IS HOW X WEIGHT CAN LOOK". No you fucking idiot if you are 4'9 you cant be 70kg
I left my fiancee of 5 years because she ended up like that while i got fit from sinnyfat with her. It was for the best
if they can't do picrel, they're fat.
simple as
That's a very hairy woman.
She should stop shaving her bush. Brazil ruined women.
And pits. Women should stop shaving their pits.
hairy bitch
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ahhh yeeeeaaahhh
and if you dont look like prime arnold you are a dyel
They are overweight but this is just how the average woman looks like these days
why should men have to work as hard as previous generations men to get women fattier and cuntier
they don't, they have to work much much harder
>ass smaller than stomach
you can tell the person who asks this is even worse
Everybody 50 years ago would view those women as noticeably unhealthy and fat
Anons in this thread calling them "skinnyfat" are coping just like the people on reddit
Do you even know what skinnyfat means? It means overweight bodyfat percentage with low muscle mass.
Imagine how you must look like to look at the thing on the right and think "healthy sized"
Holy fuck, all of them need to lose at LEAST 20 lbs.
They're all hogs
Not overweight but definitely frumpy.
Probably the one in white.
The one on the right has unfortunate fat distribution genes. It's all going to her chin and stomach. Horrible. Maybe low E?
Garlic shaped
lol wut, my gf basically has the same body as the brunette in the middle 'cept with a bit more ass, and she constantly complains about being like 20kgs over how much she used to weigh
Tell her that you'll leave her if she doesn't stop being a fatass.
Jannies PLESE PERMABAN gayS WHO POST LEEDDIT SCREENCAPS.
They're American skinny or Japanese fat
IncelTear users ale literally subhumans, it's not worth wasting your time on the bullshit they spew
Lmao so much cope in the comments.
Man, it's kinda sad how much they try to ignore the reality that they're fat and that no matter how much they complain and cry about standards they'll still be fat.
>they don't know anatomy
>literally cite a non existent anatomical structure
Repeal the 19th
>first post
These people think the term "fat" means "fatter than average".
>it's a uterus pudge
>all this cope and delusion
Total divorce from objective reality.
>Comments locked 12 minutes ago
Reddit mods are such massive cucks it's even worse than the jannies
It's more about where it goes rather than the number on the scale.
These women have too much adipose tissue. The woman on the right especially has that problem going on. Also developing a double chin. The rest idk because I don't see their side profile.
>Reddit/IncelTear
Who unironically browses that site on a daily basis? It's also hilarious how everyone is defending the women and attacking the guys for '''''''''body shaming''''''''', and then attack the '''''''''incels''''''''' by calling them fat virgins.
they're sedentary fat not fill-my-face-with-pizza fat, it's a more subtle form of disgusting, and easily fixable
Healthy-looking is a word you can rarely use. That would imply not only physical fitness but mental also, and a habitus kind of radiating said health. Don't really see that in the picture. Obviously you can be healthy and still look not so fit, but again, it's a special case.
What I do see in the picture are three "normal" bodies. Normal, as in a bit overweight but more like out of shape than just overweight/fat. I wouldn't touch any of them, well maybe the middle one if she was sweet otherwise.
The reddit thread is insane, every single approved comment in there must be from an overweight, ugly cow.
Spiteful mutants who cope and seethe that at least somebody else is worse than them.
>Kasen Ibaraki waifu
Unironically his waifu is the model of the self improvement.
They are not obese, but they’re also unhealthily fat
Proper responses from the fitness board. These chicks have no definition. They might even be the right BMI, but the lack of the muscles makes them all unpleasantly flabby. Even I, weirdo who likes both thin and thick, understand that they look mediocre.
You don't really care about health, you incels!
Checkmate.
she die?
Middle>left>right.
so much coping in that post
>teehee lets see the incels bodies now
incels are the most likely group to be shredded
I marry the woman in white
they look ok but they will be fat after their mid 30s when bad habits catch them.
Dunno, but one in the middle is hot to me.
Farthest to the right is slightly overweight. The other two are just average. Not skinny but not overweight really.
I'm not gonna comment on the "healthiness", but they are undoubtedly all overweight and in very poor physical shape with no muscles.
>reddit
Why you bother?