As someone who has been lifting in gyms for 15 years Ive noticed that the majority of people do PPL now.

As someone who has been lifting in gyms for 15 years I’ve noticed that the majority of people do PPL now. It used to be a Brosplit. I’d say bro-split dominated the 2000s and most of 2010s, but in the last few years it seems like PPL has completely taken over.

I actually don’t see many people doing Full Body anymore either, for a brief period in the early-mid 2010s I saw like 90% brosplit 10% full body, now I’d say it’s like 60% PPL, 30% brosplit 10% full body. Which is interesting because I rarely saw a majority of people doing PPL up until very recently, even though PPL has been a thing since the early 2010s, in the 2010s I saw maybe 2-3 people in gyms doing PPL over the entire decade, now almost everyone in the gym is doing it.

Did PPL go viral on normie social media places recently or something?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Did PPL go viral on normie social media places recently or something?

    Yes on tiktok and fitness YouTube

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      PPL did get popular back in like 2012-15 but I never saw anyone in real life doing it…

      You saying PPL has become suddenly popular out of nowhere but 100000X more than it was in 2012-2015 because it popped off on TikTok?

      Sort of like how Zyzz is more popular than ever today in that way?

      Shit is insane how stuff from the early-mid 2010s makes a come back suddenly and is 100000X bigger than it ever was originally

      It seems like information flows so much quicker and so much bigger and wider with zoomers than it did with millennials

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's just convenience. People might do PPL once a week that 3 times in the gym compared to a brosplit where you'd need 5-6 days. Maybe there's some gymtok trend too

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one does PPL 3 days a week thoughever

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you think most people go to the gym more than 3 times a week you are fucking high. I'd bet most people who say they "go to the gym" likely do PP and L only every now and then.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I get a job I imagine I'll stop doing ppl and start doing full body again

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've been hitting it for 15 years also and i don't see people doing jack shit than curls, bench and looking in the mirror. Most people stop showing up after a week.

    In all this time nothing has changed outside of social media.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >In all this time nothing has changed outside of social media.
      what does that mean

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This

      Absolute majority that i see still do some sort of brosplit + curls everyday just like it was 10-15 years ago. Its so easy to spot the sarm zoomer doing nothing but curls benchpress and cable flies everytime, but still grows to teice the size of his training buddy zoomer. Exactly how it was back in the day aswell.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        then why do people shit on sarms? They clearly work lol

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No one's saying they don't work, but the mystery meat effects are what people shit on.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            like what

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I started PPL because a normal fullbody split didn't give me enough time to properly do isolation exercises

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s the most logical split. 4+ day splits don’t work if you’re natty. You need to hit muscles at least twice a week. Brosplits are for roiders who synthesize muscle for longer periods of time after working out

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You need to hit muscles at least twice a week. Brosplits are for roiders who synthesize muscle for longer periods of time after working out
      This meme needs to fucking die lmao

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        hes mostly not wrong though. Hitting a muscle group 2-3x per week gives more good volume than once per week. brosplits are not just for roiders though, a lot of them do ppl too. Brosplits are just wasting time

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your gains will be fucking trash as a natty if you hit muscles once a week.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you call it a meme with 0 reasoning why, you're a DYEL and an imbecile.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, I have done brosplit and PPL both before roids and on roids. Has good gains on both both on and off roids, no noticeable difference in progress. Weekly sets and intensity kept the same.

        I think you just live online where PPL is the ledditor's choice but in the real world it's just brosplits. Brosplits work better than PPL by the way. PPL tries to be science!!! while while still having the fun of a brosplit but then it just does everything wrong. Frequency also doesn't matter, those studies were cherry picked and the lead guy that was shilling them, Shoenfeld, admitted all that matters is volume last year.
        >6 days in the gym to only hit the muscle twice a week
        >bodypart split but it's not logically made since legs will interfere with back (low back and hammies) and push has too much shit to do. You're so spread thin you're basically just doing upper lower rather than a deep split routine like a brosplit.
        >for some reason ledditors think taking the Sabbath off is enough to recover from 2x squat days and 2x deadlift/floor pull days a week. All of them struggle with a 225lb squat and then lie about their bench.
        >can't even have a quick workout since you're just doing 2x a week you need at least 10 sets a bodypart to adequately grow

        I agree PPL isn’t some godsend, but to think you can’t recover from it is probably more to do with bad understanding of your own body. I can hit legs heavy twice a week and recover fine, I can also slam legs out so hard I won’t be able to recover for a week, the gains aren’t different though, so why would I put myself in a position where I can’t walk for 4 days instead of just being weak in the legs after leg day?

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    PPL requires you to lift 6 times/week in order to hit every muscle group twice a week, which is bad for recovery

    I prefer my custom split

    Monday: legs and back
    Tuesday: chest, arms and shoulders
    Wednesday: rest
    Thirstday: heavy back day
    Friday: chest, legs, shoulders and arms

    Weekend: rest

    Great size and strength gains without recovery problems

    I’m going for high intensity tho

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      how long have you been doing this routine and post results

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone knows that the second leg day is optional so it's basically just PPLPP

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I follow the most mentally retarded routine on this entire board and somehow people with carefully planned science based routines look worse.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      based. natty? how long you been lifting and whats your self proclaimed retardation?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, almost two years.

        monday: off
        tuesday: T-bar rows 10x20
        wednesday: off
        thursday: floor press 10x10
        friday: core focused bodyweight (jack knife situps, bicycle crunches, mountain climbers, planks, side planks, etc)
        saturday: OHP 10x10
        sunday: hex (or conventional) bar deadlifts 5 x 10

        lateral raises and hammer curls as an accessory at irregular intervals (I use them as warm up for a set or two for my work so my shoulders don't get cramps from climbing)

        my exercise selection has been the same since I started lifting besides swapping front raises for OHP, and sometimes the volume goes up and down, I usually add sets before I increase the weight, then drop the volume back down after the increase.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          What in the fuck is this
          how has this worked and how have you not injured yourself

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know, I am autistic as shit and hate variety.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Consistency is why it worked. Not him but I've just been running whatever programs I come up with myself, but I've been doing it for like 14 years and I look pretty damn good.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          dangerously based and fucking redpilled outdoors chad. where did you even come up with this routine and do you get much other physical activity? what about dieting or supplements?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think I started doing t-bar rows because I wanted to hit the rear delts without isolating them so it ended up being a back exercise, did front raises because I want to be able to do video related, but then it started fucking up my wrists so I switched to OHP because it's similar in muscle usage, floor press because bench hurts my shoulders with the amount of volume I do, and hex bar deadlifts because deadlifts are fun to do, I was doing 10 sets of 10 at some point but I'm getting too old to pull that off so I just do them heavier now.

            I swim as a hobby, I post about it regularly.

            no specific diet, don't track any macro (neither for cutting or bulking), no supplements besides creatine and whey, and maybe fish oil but I haven't noticed a difference since I started taking it besides that my shit no longer sticks to the toilet.

            https://i.imgur.com/NCMZSVc.jpg

            kek fucking saved

            don't do what I do you'll probably fuck yourself up, I haven't had a single injury though besides a very minor lat sprain when I was still killing myself with high volume deadlifts, which is also the reason I stopped doing that.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Random autist starts working out to replicate sumo moves and ends up mogging 99.99% of the population including people who put an effort into their program

              Unreal

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          kek fucking saved

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          how is this shit getting replies? thats the most dyel shit i ever seen in this site

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            ok but do you look better than me

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Would you say the leeches in that water steal your gains?

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                never had a single leech on me, think I might have disgusting blood because I haven't had a tick in a decade either despite working outdoors and mosquitoes don't bite me either.

                here are some underwater videos:

                carps: https://streamable.com/vxw4yq
                pike: https://streamable.com/5a7edf
                plants:
                https://streamable.com/pz82gz
                https://streamable.com/z4d3fv
                https://streamable.com/q0dj5x
                https://streamable.com/h9li2m
                https://streamable.com/s7llbz

                are these your property? consider yourself mired and properly envied, then

                these are random pits for sand extraction that I swim in because the water is relatively clear (still pretty dark though)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I also like going in the woods but bloodsuckers fucking love me. At least with mosquitos you can build up resistance to their bites. Do you think it's something in your diet that deters bloodsuckers?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              are these your property? consider yourself mired and properly envied, then

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Only results matter. People really put too much thought into supplements and routine and not enough into just fucking lifting.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >OHP 10x10

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            i'm only doing 1 plate, it's comparatively my weakest lift I think.

            I also like going in the woods but bloodsuckers fucking love me. At least with mosquitos you can build up resistance to their bites. Do you think it's something in your diet that deters bloodsuckers?

            no idea my diet is just fruits, vegetables and a lot of dairy because I don't like texture of most meats that much.

            don't think I'm doing anything special.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              you ohp 135lbs 10x10?
              i can't fucking believe it

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I just finished since it's saturday.

                12 reps per set now, but I need to add weight and drop the volume again soon.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Autist is doing ISTs goal weight for the overhead-press for a dozen reps during a dozen sets due to being inspired by a sumo move.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its his weakest lift.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know what gym routines people are doing? I never watch others work out unless they’re using what I want. Frank Zane talked about PPL, it’s old.

      https://i.imgur.com/GO6QKwB.jpg

      yes, almost two years.

      monday: off
      tuesday: T-bar rows 10x20
      wednesday: off
      thursday: floor press 10x10
      friday: core focused bodyweight (jack knife situps, bicycle crunches, mountain climbers, planks, side planks, etc)
      saturday: OHP 10x10
      sunday: hex (or conventional) bar deadlifts 5 x 10

      lateral raises and hammer curls as an accessory at irregular intervals (I use them as warm up for a set or two for my work so my shoulders don't get cramps from climbing)

      my exercise selection has been the same since I started lifting besides swapping front raises for OHP, and sometimes the volume goes up and down, I usually add sets before I increase the weight, then drop the volume back down after the increase.

      Nice routine based retard. Mine is based on using the same weight for all my workouts since I’m lazy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GO6QKwB.jpg

      yes, almost two years.

      monday: off
      tuesday: T-bar rows 10x20
      wednesday: off
      thursday: floor press 10x10
      friday: core focused bodyweight (jack knife situps, bicycle crunches, mountain climbers, planks, side planks, etc)
      saturday: OHP 10x10
      sunday: hex (or conventional) bar deadlifts 5 x 10

      lateral raises and hammer curls as an accessory at irregular intervals (I use them as warm up for a set or two for my work so my shoulders don't get cramps from climbing)

      my exercise selection has been the same since I started lifting besides swapping front raises for OHP, and sometimes the volume goes up and down, I usually add sets before I increase the weight, then drop the volume back down after the increase.

      If it fucking works, it's not mentally retarded. The mentally retarded people are the one's blindly sticking to a routine that isn't getting them anywhere instead of doing literally anything else.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it wrong to do PPL when I only go to the gym 3x per week?
    I'm working on changing my sleeping schedule so eventually I can go 6x in the mornings but fucking hell I'm tired if I do that now

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes because you are only doing lifts once a week

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes since you're only hitting each muscle group once per week, may as well do full body.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      When limited on time Full body will always be king. Its not wrong, but you will progress faster on full body.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      no. brosplit is hitting each muscle group once per week, which is basically what you are doing. don't sacrifice intensity for frequency

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's very wrong. As a matter of fact it's against the law.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    by doing PPL natties can desperately pump chase in order to not feel DYEL. This is absolute truth. inb4 roid chud im natty as fuark

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, it's 4 day UL

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      post routine

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      2 uppers only with 2 lower days is too unbalanced.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      PPLU is superior

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I do full body because it's impossible to mess up your schedule. With bro splits in particular, if for some reason you're unable to go to the gym on chest day, you have to wait a week to hit chest, then you haven't trained chest in 2 weeks, or you add it on a different day and shit just gets all fucked up. With full body, the last workout is never too far behind

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      when u say full body do u mean full body in general or push pull full body there are so many variations here it gets confusing

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think you just live online where PPL is the ledditor's choice but in the real world it's just brosplits. Brosplits work better than PPL by the way. PPL tries to be science!!! while while still having the fun of a brosplit but then it just does everything wrong. Frequency also doesn't matter, those studies were cherry picked and the lead guy that was shilling them, Shoenfeld, admitted all that matters is volume last year.
    >6 days in the gym to only hit the muscle twice a week
    >bodypart split but it's not logically made since legs will interfere with back (low back and hammies) and push has too much shit to do. You're so spread thin you're basically just doing upper lower rather than a deep split routine like a brosplit.
    >for some reason ledditors think taking the Sabbath off is enough to recover from 2x squat days and 2x deadlift/floor pull days a week. All of them struggle with a 225lb squat and then lie about their bench.
    >can't even have a quick workout since you're just doing 2x a week you need at least 10 sets a bodypart to adequately grow

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    PPL was what I was taught back in my highschool weights class in the mid-nineties. Maybe it's just making a comeback like everything else from the nineties.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you are paying way too much attention to other ppls routines

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Did PPL go viral on normie social media places recently or something?
    Less time in the gym

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