At what age should you stop trying to make it?

At what age should you stop trying to make it?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    30, by that time you should have made it or be one step away from making it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how old are you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        24 and while I still have things I wanna accomplish I can say that compared to other ppl my age I have made it (95k salary at good company, good degree, hit 1/2/3/na for reps, own apartment with long term gf who is also doing similarly well) so if I can reach that benchmark at 24 then by 30 you definitely should have made it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i knew these threads would all be full of literal children confidently declaring how life works

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >literal children
            >literal child with a full time job in fintech, a committed relationship, and his own apartment
            lol okay guy

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >guys did i mention im a rich engineer? engineer here btw, im an engineer

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              children
              child with a full time job in fintech, a committed relationship, and his own apartment
              >lol okay guy

              lol ur gay

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              why are you proud of owning an apartment?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Enjoy your youthful exuberance while it lasts, its all downhill from here.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If only you knew

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Bro relax, you're 24. Yes, you are a fucking child compared to some of us in this thread so calm your little feisty ass down. Good for you for not being a neet/incel/dyel like a lot of your peers on this board but don't think the real high flyers of this world (or even just the guys much older than you) will be impressed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You understand that not everyone starts off on the same foot, right? Some people are dealt a really shitty hand in life. That's why these threads are retarded and a waste of time. There is no cut off age to "making it", period.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have you considered just going back in time and finding rich parents that teach you good habits, encourage you to play sports, pay for your college tuition, and guide you towards high paying STEM majors? Worked out well for me tbh

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >had well off but not rich parents
              >taught me very few to no life skills
              >had me play a few sports but gave them up
              >paid for college but didn't guide me to high paying STEM, just let me do some meme that i struggled thru because apparently i was a retard
              >now on verge of suicide at 30
              i would take working class parents who had good values over my parents any day of the week. money isnt everything, i know IST probably cares the most about money on this entire site besides IST but it really isnt everything.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This. And there's no dichotomy between making it or not making it anyway. In a purely figurative way of speaking sure the idea of "making it" makes sense. But these incels take it so far, all just because of their insatiable hard-on for trying to demoralize others.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            These people want others to jerk them off by telling them how amazing they are.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >my parents are upper middle class: the post

          Nah. I'm 32 and was 94% neet my whole life. Got a cashier job at a grocery store due to me falling into depression but after 6 months quickly said fuck that and left. I now through Gods grace got a job in the solar/ wind turbine career path and immediately jumped into where I live in the middle class bracket.

          Trust in God.

          >I just started working as a cashier at 34, here's my advice

          https://i.imgur.com/WRTDLct.jpg

          At what age should you stop trying to make it?

          Don't listen to retards on IST is my point, I guess. Depending on what you think "making it" means it can be either attainable or unattainable at any given age. Be realistic.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Did your gf fuck other guys before she settled down with you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm 30 and have a 50k salary, not nearly as much as you. I own my own home, I'm still not happy where I am, but I'm doing a lot better than I was a few years ago
          I grew up very poor, my parents died at a young age and I was thrown around addict family members, dropped out of school
          Basically not everyone starts on the same footing, comparison isn't always straight forward

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ur pathetic lmao
          imagine being proud of this shit

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > good degree
          >95K

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You were handed everything, and even after being handed everything, you completed your life's training and made it to barely 94k and a fucking apartment. That is the measure of your worth. There are people your age making millions. Stop comparing yourself, because you are somebody who had all the same tools those millionaires had, but you still came up this short.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > 95k without saying where he lives.
          if he/she/them lives in San Francisco he/she/them would be homeless
          >good degree
          you and every Starbucks employee bub
          >reps
          who cares
          >own apartment
          "OWNS" apartment mmk

          I am 98% sure without mom and dad you wouldnt have made ANY benchmark

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You sound like an NPC. Like one of yuppie robots from american psycho. You think you've achieved something, but are so short-sighted you can't see a bigger picture. 24 years old, yet so immature, living in your own bubble. You haven't made anything, grow up

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What have you made old man?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >things can only get better
          Kek, I want an update when you hit 30

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This
            As long as you’re a salaryman you’re always six months away from a totally different life.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well done anon. Ignore the seething replies, I "made it" at 24 as well, but there is still much to improve. Finance being one of them, my job is cool and has a steady pay check, bug goddamn are they some cheap bastards. I think whatever job I move to next will bring home the bacon to where I can buy a house (finally)

          And yes, my family is upper crust, deal with it. Knew plenty of kids from upper crust families as well that totally fucked their shit up because they thought their successful parents were full of shit and didn't take their advice, glad I listened.

          Love seeing people older than me seethe at my success, all because I didn't FUCK AROUND in my 20's

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well done anon. Ignore the seething replies, I "made it" at 24 as well, but there is still much to improve. Finance being one of them, my job is cool and has a steady pay check, bug goddamn are they some cheap bastards. I think whatever job I move to next will bring home the bacon to where I can buy a house (finally)

          And yes, my family is upper crust, deal with it. Knew plenty of kids from upper crust families as well that totally fucked their shit up because they thought their successful parents were full of shit and didn't take their advice, glad I listened.

          Love seeing people older than me seethe at my success, all because I didn't FUCK AROUND in my 20's

          most people here aren't seething. They're pointing out, rightfully, that you're proud of accomplishments that were (comparatively) handed to you to the point where you're saying "heh, if I can do it and you didn't, you're a loser." I don't know your life so I don't know if you've ever had to struggle for anything, but it honestly doesn't sound like you had to struggle for much.
          >your success
          >parents were wealthy and successful and gave good advice
          Lots of people don't even get this. You feel?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Also why does everyone assume "making it" means having a ton of money? Maybe it's just because I'm in the arts but that shit never made any sense to me. There's more to do than just gather a bunch of money.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Also why does everyone assume "making it" means having a ton of money? There's more to do than just gather a bunch of money.

              Literally all IST cares about is money. Any thread on here everyone has to mention their job and salary if it's high (it always is since everyone here is an engineer) and talk about all financial stuff. It may have to do with no one here having social skills so their salary and net worth is their only positive aspect about themselves.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Also why does everyone assume "making it" means having a ton of money?
              Money is everything and nothing at the same time. I'm not a slave to it. People talk about money, because fit is about masculinity in general. Money and fitness are just 2 important barometers.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I hear what you're saying, but there is no excuse, ignorance is a choice.

            All my class mates were on financial aid. Most of them came from the 3rd world, and those who didn't were lower class (financially)

            They all made it, debts repaid and everything. If they can do it, so can you. Not about to let anyone devalue my success just because my parents are rich, when I have known so many from all backgrounds crash and burn, and others who have succeeded.

            One of those classmates was raised by her father, born from a stripper, dirt fucking poor. Graduated same year as me and got her first job at fucking SpaceX. I don't want to hear it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              cool, I graduated from a top-10 college, full-ride, double major, five years. Have two jobs, both in my field (one which is notoriously difficult to get into, and I got into it *twice*), and none of this changes my opinion. "Just work hard and you get everything" is a cope opinion. I've seen people work hard and get nothing. I've seen some people do nothing and get everything. You might not want people to diminish your accomplishments, but the fact of the matter is (You) did not have it as hard as a lot of, if not most, people, regardless of whether or not people in similar positions failed. That's fact, sorry. Data supports that it takes a special sort of idiot to fall out of the upper-middle to upper class. Even mediocrity rises due to the power of financial support.

              This also still ignores the fact that "making it" doesn't look like "making a bunch of money" to everyone. Not everyone wants to go into a high-earning field by choice. Some people have dreams that won't pay off for many years. Saying "I made it by 24 so you should have made it by now" is the most 24-year-old thing I've ever heard because it's immensely short-sighted. "Making it" varies depending on the individual, and different goals take different lengths of time. Your goal was to go into fintech and make a bunch of money. You did it, congrats; sounds like a whole lot of other people did too. Some people have much longer, much harder roads that they've chosen by choice. Don't look at your life and assume it maps to everyone else's; it just makes you look like an idiot.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I didn't have it as hard, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

                What would you like me to do? Crawl back into my mother's womb and not be born into my situation? Fall to my knees and beg for forgiveness from the down trodden masses?

                Fuck all that. ANYONE can easily improve or fuck up their situation. The fact that I've made it was all because of me, no if ands or buts about it.

                Cope and seethe buddy 😉

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >easily
                Bro how fucking sheltered are you? Anyone can change, but saying all change is easily is genuinely retarded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                All im hearing is a bunch of coping and seething. If you fags wanna wallow in self pity, be my guest. As for me, my success is determined by my actions, ill continue to make the right choices, especially when it makes you morons seethe so uncontrollably

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, I'm fine, my shit is on lock. I'm just pointing out how far up your ass your head is. Take it out, look around, and shut the fuck up. No one is mad about your success, everyone is just correctly pointing out what a pompous sheltered twat you are, believing you silver spoon didn't matter. I too had it good growing up, and I dont apologize, as you shouldn't, but I don't pretend like that didn't give me a leg up over people who didn't have what I had. Just be humble, it's not that big a deal.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I know it helped me retard, and I know others WHO IT DIDNT HELP. What's your excuse now?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nah you're not getting it, bub. It DID help those others (how do you think they even got in the fucking door, you ass?), they squandered their gift out of sloth, stupidity, or a million other reasons. Just because you took advantage of your situation (as any thoughtful person would have) doesn't mean that you're some outlier or that again, you weren't in that situation because of your family's wealth (which is fine). Youre not getting that your only fuckup in this thread is disregarding your silver spoon like it doesn't matter, because it does. That's all. It doesn't diminish your accomplishments. It doesn't make you less a man, it's just means you can look reality in the face and move on. At this point the only coping is coming from you because you seem to think that your family clearly benefitting you somehow makes you less of a success. Youre wrong on that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The fact that I've made it was all because of me
                No it wasnt lmao. If you actually believe you can control every part of your life, then you haven't dealt with anything real. Would you rather go to work or class? Ive seen many people fail out of college because they HAVE to work rather than spend time studying or going to class. In this situation, you have to save up money and put your dreams aside for a year or 2.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Cope and seethe. You people are fucking hilarious, I didn't know IST was full of burn outs

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You are coping despite the fact you are talking about other people
                >There is no way you have empathy or sympathy for those less fortunate
                If you aren't trolling here, you are massively insecure whose identity revolves around "making it" as if you were a poor person to seem tough. Thats very sad if true, otherwise good troll.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I have ZERO sympathy for people refusing to do what it takes to improve their situation. Known all sorts of people, from all sorts of backgrounds, seen it all.
                THERE
                IS
                NO
                EXCUSE

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Time and money you loser. If you have money, you have the time to go after a goal. If you don't have money, you have very little time to go after that goal. The fact you can't understand this concept shows how little you actually work to get where you are.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I'm still just hearing excuses. Keep crying and bitching gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Time and money are excuses
                >You dont need these 2 to succeed at all
                I mean, you were doing pretty good till this point. Try again tomorrow when its not obvious you are larping

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, we just want you to stop posturing on the internet because it's mildly cringe on our front and presents a lack of thought on your own.

                No one is seething. For all your success you sound super insecure. Does it hurt you to acknowledge you had multiple legs up?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No it doesn't. Does it hurt you to know that people with zero leg ups are more successful than you? I bet it enrages you 😉

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >success is a zero-sum game where people who have more than me are worthy of my contempt
                Scarcity mindset pleb

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This has just devolved into trolling now man don’t even bother kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't, no--and the reason why it doesn't is because a lot of those people with no legs up made more direct choices earlier on before I realized what I really wanted to do with my life. Their "leg up" was early realization, which I didn't have. They knew what they wanted and went for it while I was still figuring it out. That's fine.

                This is all comparative within my field though, where advancement tends to take a while. And not to mention that, again, my field is the arts; some people make it big instantly, some people make it big at 60. Ian McKellen's most enduring, popular, and practically immortalizing role as Gandalf the Grey did not come until the last stage of his life. He "made it" as an old man at a far greater stage than (You) have at 24; people will remember him for generations. No one will talk about how some anon on an imageboard made 90k back in the day.

                Like I said, "Making It" is different for everyone. I'm glad other people are living their dreams early. Their dreams are not mine, and their timelines are thus incomparable.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >its a choice to be a loser whether you are poor or rich
              Sounds like you never had to sleep for only a few hours each night, go to work full time, go to school full time, take care of your dying father in the hospital struggling to pay the bills cause your father is poor too with no health insurance, living out of your car sleeping near the library so you can get that free wifi, going to job interviews directly after class is over, then immediately going back to working on school shit when you finally have the time. If this is the choice you THINK you can make and deal with, good for you. You perservered.
              But don't ever think this is an easy choice to make where anyone has the ability to push through. For me, I was numb through the whole thing and was looking at the prize. Looking back, I still wonder how I was able to just get through everything

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, and I'm very lucky I was born to a family that used their brains to minimize suffering for their children. It's all achievable, hopefully you'll break the cycle

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Im very lucky
                >Its all achievable
                Why don't you try it out and see how achievable it is. Just look around you and live like all the commoners and see how easy you think it is to choose to be rich

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Spoiled monkey moron

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. And there's nothing you can do about it. Cope and seethe gay lol.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >"you sound like an idiot dude"
                >"HAHA!! COPE! COPE AND SEETHE COPE COPE COPE SEEEEEETHE!!"
                Damn dude with an IQ like that your pops must be loaded

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He is, mom is too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, with my semen

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good one

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          post body to make the neets and incels rope

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Larp, only people who achieve this are rich, spoiled upper class fags with daddys money and never had to pay for anything. Nothing wrong with this however, it's smart. I would set up my kids like this too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >LARP
            Do you mean to say that this anon posted merely for the benefit of those in his presence whom he is role-playing with, rather than the readers of this thread?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not the guy you replied to but my dad was working class growing up, currently 24 sitting at 165k/yr, was driven by spite/rivalry in high school and trying to mog my top tier classmates, or at least keep up with them. got me a scholarship at a good school, majored in computer science and philosophy, kept my gpa above a 3.6, took on 3 internships and a co-op in college by going to job fairs and spamming my resume everywhere, and landed a FAANG full-time job right out of graduation cause of all this.
            not bragging but you don't need to have been rich to get good options, you just need spite

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Future divorce rape and suicide yuppie

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Haven't we known since the 80's that this kind of life is spiritually unfulfilling? I'm not even religious and even I agree with this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good for you. I'm 27 and only graduated and started working at 24 because I was sitting on my ass playing vidya from 18-20. At 24 I barely got a job because I had almost no internships and only earned 70k. I earn 90k at a boomer company now, rent a shitty apartment, my girlfriend just left me and I have zero friends in this city (and barely any worth remembering at home).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It'd be fun to live in a first world country with wealthy parents. Could've saved me a lot of trouble.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Post body, and dubs means if you don't you're 100% full of shit AND chinese

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >95k salary
          >1/2/3/4
          >a one-bedroom apartment
          >one (1) gf
          These are the stats that made IST seethe for over 200 posts well good onya cunt, hope to catch up to you soon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, renting a cuck box seems to be a great thing....fucking retard, enjoy your box in the sky

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >t.
              Lol the crabs-in-a-bucket double think here is ridiculous. Don’t get me wrong, the sigma male stuff is a scam but obviously you should do what you can to be financially stable. Anon’s doing well and can look at early retirement, reinvest into businesses or projects, buy a house. This is probably b8, since that anon’s young and making good money so home ownership’s well within his grasp. This thread is funny, though, because those stats are good but not incredible. They’re all achievable by pretty much anyone born in the US and anon’s are falling over each other to declare it’s either
              >not possible or
              >not desirable
              Well you don’t have to be a fintech superstar to be solvent, have a girlfriend, and your own place. And if it’s not desirable…well it just doesn’t seem like something well-adjusted people with their own goals in life would get worked up about.

              Anyway, about an apartment being a cuckbox in the sky (funny you think it has to be in the city, maybe that’s inferable from anon being in fintech but I think it shows how thoroughly ideologized you’ve become by this site) house ownership as a means of building equity is not as sure as you may think. In aggregate, common stocks have higher returns than real estate. Poor people tend to have more of their portfolio allocated to their house (since they need it to live) so in times when real estate crashes, poor people are hit the hardest as rich people are more diversified and have a higher share of their capital in businesses and stocks. If you took your down payment and mortgage payments and put it in an index fund, the compounding returns would probably exceed the appreciation of your house (ymmv). The diversification stocks offer make them a safer return than a mortgage on a single house.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The common idea that buying a house is an infallibly great financial decision bothers me, glad to see another anon who gets it too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah having a place to live permanently is so fucking stupid

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you haven't had kids you haven't made shit. You have material possessions that mean squat.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            what about my parents who had one child (me) and I turned out to be a complete utter humiliating embarrassment? i bet they wish they never had a child.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Good for you anon but with that attitude you will be divorce raped in 8 years. I hope the others things you aim to accomplish are on the spiritual side but the way you express yourself it seems you're nothing but a coooonsumer who thinks that figured out life at 24.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Holy crabs in a bucket, kid does moderately well and IST both says he has nothing while also being given everything. Literal moron mentality, go back to flipping burgers at mcdonalds gays

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Glad you made it bro! Proud of you, hope I can accomplish the same some day.
          Also, the cope and seethe this post has generated is top tier, so be proud of that too.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >gf who is also doing similarly well
          kiss her goodbye lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah. I'm 32 and was 94% neet my whole life. Got a cashier job at a grocery store due to me falling into depression but after 6 months quickly said fuck that and left. I now through Gods grace got a job in the solar/ wind turbine career path and immediately jumped into where I live in the middle class bracket.

      Trust in God.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >immediately
        >middle class
        You have no idea how money works

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i dont get it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Live in a poor area so yeah I stand by my words monkey. Just because it hasn't been a full fiscal year doesn't mean I'm not in it already.

            >immediately
            >middle class
            You have no idea how money works

            >People thinking middle class means middle income
            Many such cases.. they've intentionally distorted what middle class always meant. If you're a wagie you're working class. Middle class means you have capital and either run your own business or live off said manipulation of capital. You can make six figures and still be working class (lower class). Middle class generally ranges from 1m-20m net worth

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Yank detected
              Middle Class and Lower Class are seperated by:
              >Education level
              >Type of job
              >Family name
              >Living location
              And even then, those are seperated into Upper/Lower of each strata, depending on how many of each in what Class you have.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Middle class means that you have a 9-5 that requires higher education. Examples:
              doctor, engineer, scientist, business personal, etc

              Also. Every fucking people who say "networking" unironically. I fucking hate them all and i would find great pleasure in their demise.
              Nuke the US, i hope you all die of diabetes and moron crime.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your definition of middle class is delusional. “Middle class” implies that it’s closer to the median lifestyle, not some super exclusive group that only business owners are in.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Live in a poor area so yeah I stand by my words monkey. Just because it hasn't been a full fiscal year doesn't mean I'm not in it already.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how did u go from a neet cashier to whatever you do now in turbines

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you switched from one slavewagy job to another. good for you!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. All of this.

        I hit the 1% at 34. I was a wagie until 30.

        Learn a trade, hit beast level, go out on your own. Simple as.

        If you're truly good at what you do, you won't have to worry about finding work.

        Be shrewd, be fair, pray every day. Pay your crews well, and treat them like family.

        Don't fuck over an employee or client, ever. Simultaneously, never allow them to push you around. Stand your ground. If you have faith in the Lord, you won't struggle with this, or knowing what is the right thing to do.

        Marry well, have lots of kids.

        This shit ain't hard, bros.

        -------------------

        Oh, and hire white Christian men only. Trust me on this. Minorities and women TANK small and mid sized businesses.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Can I hire white men if they don't bring up religion

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Feel them out.

            Athiest productivity is usually dogshit.

            Corporations love them because they don't question power structures.

            Which, ironic.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >be one step away from making it
      you are always one step away from making it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The average age of successful people opening their first business is 34.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >implying i have a circle

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    never give up never surrender

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >never give up never surrender
      Hell yes. I'm late 40s,pretty successful. But I started my own company during Covid, now about to see the benefits.

      You never stop. Once you do, you're finished.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Get the fuck off this site old man holy fuck

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do you want to take a stab at how many people over the age of 45 are on this site? Or do you actually believe this place is full of zoomers? Kek

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          demotivation fag pls go

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Get the fuck off this site old man holy fuck
          Shut the fuck up loser. 6 pack 7 figures. Guarantee you I can take any chick you have.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Diogenes was right
    Fuck society

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you will never be able to live the ideal cynic lifestlye
      bros...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What's stopping you?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can, just be a hobo and make speeches in the subway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the only person who could mog the unmoggables

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i think you will find here is the emptiness
      fucking roasted lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only motherfucker in history that stayed true to himself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And everyone clapped

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if it wasn't for society Diogenes would have starved like the bum he was. To this day I still don't understand why people admire a man with no agency.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He put plato in his place.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This image of this guy from that funny wall street movie is convincing. But it would have much more effect on me if instead of him it was kermit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One man's idea of making it is not everyone else's. My idea of making it certainly doesn't include being a 9-5 drone. We all have our own goals.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How to get a circle?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    everyone on fit is in a very high paying white collar career, owns their own house, 1/2/3/4, very hot gf/fiancee/wife by the age of 22

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      me except 1/2/3/4, and that's why people like me are here
      whats so hard to understand?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        who said hard to understand? said it was a fact.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, 24yo and I make like $33/hr but I only work 3/4 of the year. Don't own my own house, but saving up. Have a wife and a baby on the way. Only recently started lifting properly but I've been working out for a while and I lost 30lbs.

      We aren't all 22yo millionaires, but I'm happy.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The age when you're dead, gay

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with a well salaried 9-5? I don't get this whole push to be your own business owner and side hustles blah blah blah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. To become top 1% easiest is own business and work ur ass of like a slave. To be top 10-15% easiest way is good degree comfy job.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I work in the casino industry, and make hourly 30.50 $ an hour in CA.
      Honestly it's still not quite enough to have the life I'd like. I still can't splurge on expensive clothes, nice restaurants, I still need to be quite careful with my spending.
      I'd say aim for six figure salary if you can, because unless it's 40$ an hour doing some crazy welding work or something, it still feels like working class.
      Just my opinion from experiencing it. It's not the worst, me and my co-workers can definitely do the things we want, and save money while doing it, but I'd say don't aim for it. Aim higher, and pivot into hourly if you can't make it.
      But to each their own, if you're 27 no degree or training, it's not the worst.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what casino stuff do you do for $30/hr in ca?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is stupid. I live a comfy life as an electrical engineer who makes six figures.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      We’ll do you invest it or is it just sitting in a savings account?

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In your 30s your main circle should be talking about whatever sports they play, their favorite cartoons, and going to waterparks because your main circle should be your children

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    gays who post shit like this are either gay pyramid schemers or rich because their parents

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      or IST spergs who gravitated towards computers got nerd jobs and discovered lifting
      and now I'm 30 and have to learn this shit myself because I can't work because not vaxxed so need to sit in front of a screen trying to learn this bullshit up against these dorks who didn't because they were uncool as youths
      morons

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I can't work because not vaxxed
        ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not vaxxed, never will be, and never missed a day of work. Quit looking for sissy jobs.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This is exactly why I can't work. There are too many people like you. I won't subject myself to that risk. I need to learn a skill to work from home because it has become clear how dangerous and irresponsible so many people are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You are a disgraceful pussy. Look into Nietzsche's last man - you're him, and that's not a good thing. You're petrified of this bullshit virus so much that you won't even get a fucking job? Absolutely unbelievable. I'm glad I dont know you in real life and I stopped talking to my "friends" who are like you, you coward fuck. I hate you, and what people like you subjected the rest of us to for the last two years. You disgust me.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Depends where he is.
              I live in Cucktoria, so it was illegal to work without the jab, now it's only temporarily legal in certain sectors.
              >inb4 don't be scared of working illegally
              It's about whether employers will hire you, not about whether you want to work.
              >inb4 work for yourself
              Pretty much impossible without funding or assets to work with. I managed to find somewhere that didn't care about the jab after working Über for a few months to pay for a roof over my head, but many weren't so lucky.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Move to a free country

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I fucking couldn't.
                Now I'm saving up to do so.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This. It trivializes just "starting a business" and becoming uber successful, when it's the kids of the 0.1% that have the capital investment to even start businesses in their 20s.
      This is a demoralization thread, and is largely off topic. Fuck off OP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're usually indians, middle easterners, and bots liking and reposting the same shit on instagram.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        10 excavators.
        Will need 10 trailors.
        Will need land for that shit.
        Most states require permitting for them to rent them out.

        I predict a modest profit, but not a great one.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Orrrrrrr buy some United Rentals stock

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whitepill incoming

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >graduate at 21
      >get married at 23
      >whitepill
      Unlike fucking burgers it's basically impossible to get a PhD before 29-30 here. Whereas you all graduate at 26.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Read the words on the lower line, the one above is people standards on livin, while the one below list succesful people from all range of age on when they "made it"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why would you waste time with a PhD? I work in a field full of them, I’d say 90% of them regret it or don’t use it and just manage people.
        I don’t have a PhD and compete directly with them, 2 patents, multiple reports. Just get experience.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ex-PhD student here
          I dropped out in the 3rd year due to stress
          I think I'd regret doing a PhD even if I graduated
          The only reason I don't regret it is because I like where I am now, and if I didn't do a PhD I'd probably be somewhere different, despite hating it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Why would you waste time with a PhD
          Because I want to get one
          >hurr durr 90% regret
          Every study I've seen shows they don't.
          >manage people
          I don't want to. I am smarter than you so I want to do cool things and let you handle the project management bs. Because I can.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fixed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >graduate at 21
      >get married at 23
      >whitepill
      Unlike fucking burgers it's basically impossible to get a PhD before 29-30 here. Whereas you all graduate at 26.

      The ones marrying before 25 seem to be the huge exceptions nowadays. Most people don't really start working seriously (and thus having their own space and room) until they're 22 and then maybe start living on their own somewhere around 25-30.

      22, poor family, dropped out of engineering during Covid and changed my university to learn Philosophy. Now I am a year from graduating, have basically 0 hard skills that I could earn money from. The only job I've ever had was two months in a warehouse. Living with parents, but aside of living there I get no support. Plus a broken psyche from living with Mother that destroyed me mentally.

      Can I even attempt to try to make it at this point? I've swallowed the IT pill lately and decided to pursue job in programming, so I study Python for a few hours everyday. Maybe In a year or two I'll be able to land at least an entry level job in IT. THat how 'making it' would look to me. A stable job in something I can stomach and money enough to live alone. People whobuy their own houses, start families or even begin to start their own businesses...they are total abstraction to me. An entirely different plane of existence that is not only unreachable, but also wholy uncomprehendable. Maybe If I had any friends or people to talk to regularly I'd begin to understand how people like that live.

      Idk, sometimes I feel like a a humanoidal cockroach, but even Kafka's cockroach was a breadwinner with career and rent from srving in a war. Reading threads like this reminds me that a live of a normal man is as distant from mine as any fantasy novel.

      Thats rough, why didn't you continue with engineering? At least it would get you a job after applying for a while that pays 55-70k right after your Bsc.

      > job in programming
      You will have to compete with people who have degrees not only directly suited for this (IT, CS, AI etc) but also with other degrees in quantitative subjects (electrical engineering, mathematics, physics). It's rough to land an entry job, but when you have a degree you can try for companies who offer entry jobs (below junior) that will pay you pretty meh, but will educate you to become capable of performing junior developer tasks.

      > buy own houses, start families, start business
      Some people were dealt a better hand than you and had decent parents who supported them financially throughout their education. Some got a free roof above their head until they completed their masters degree. That's a whole different starting point then having low IQ parents who tell you to not go into education and just get a job at your local factory or supermarket.

      But I wouldn't worry too much, as long as you deliver some serious projects that you could show off for that potential traineeship you likely will achieve your goals anon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pic related. As soon as you're aware there's something to be made, best get to making it. It comes sooner for some, later for others, but once you know what you want, do you research, set your course, and start moving in a straight line towards it.

      Also stop worrying about what randos think of you. As a matter of fact, you can safely disregard the opinions and advice of anyone you wouldn't trade places with.

      Seriously, why the fuck would you take life advice from anyone you're not jealous of?

      PROTIP: If you're not making at least six figures doing work that matters to you, aren't an entrepreneur, or aren't a freelancer, you're a fucking slave. Seriously, the only reason to have a boss is if you're on something important that's STEM related, where you're fairly compensated. Otherwise, if you punch in, punch out, and work a 9 to 5 where you're paid just enough to get by, and have just enough energy left at the end of every day to keep going, and you do this day in, day out, making someone else's fortune for them, you're a literal slave.

      Don't be a slave.

      This anon gets it. Brofist.

      This. It trivializes just "starting a business" and becoming uber successful, when it's the kids of the 0.1% that have the capital investment to even start businesses in their 20s.
      This is a demoralization thread, and is largely off topic. Fuck off OP

      If you have half a brain and an internet connection, you can be making at least $80K a year, no more than four years from now, and there are *many* paths towards this.

      Of course, nothing ventured, nothing gained, and there's not the illusion of security that comes with being a wagie... but can you really put a price on answering to nobody but yourself?

      https://i.imgur.com/6mXqwnm.jpg

      Ngl, sounds like some based people.

      https://i.imgur.com/doD83w4.jpg

      I will not eat the bugs, but I *will* eat the skrimps.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Its never too late if your gnomish and your family has CIA connections

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone in your circle wears a suit and makes those hand gestures it's time to find new friends who aren't a bunch of dweebs.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/KMcnYv6.jpg

      what's the source for original big brain quotes?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You basically trudge on because life really can truly change but at the same time there's a chance it'll just be shitty and mediocre and you merely got by even if you start being proactive and doing everything right. You're basically making a bet on yourself, for the rest of your life.

    There is no age cutoff really but I would argue without physical health you're kind of fucked so take care of that if you're still kicking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also should add, a lot money isn't making it if you don't have fulfillment in your life because the luxury consumerism honeymoon phase ends quick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >a lot money isn't making it if you don't have fulfillment in your life
        don't tell fit (90% software engineers lawyers and doctors) that

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It really surprises me how much IST vilifies garden gnomes but then so much of this board is talking about money, salaries, etc. We get it, everyone here is a white collar STEM engineer, doctor, or lawyer, you all are insanely wealthy , have your own business/"side hustles", and have everything you could want from life yet for some reason are still very angry about people you deem as "outsiders" who are holding you and your people down.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget these guys are 30+ years old yet SOMEHOW slay 18-22 year old pussy without trying.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When I was poor and complained about garden gnomes they said I was bitter; now that I'm rich and I complain about garden gnomes they say I'm a hypocrite. I'm beginning to think they just don't want to talk about garden gnomes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Most are turbo NEET or currently in college browsing this board. Some are recent graduates. The intelligence level here is higher than the median population, so it shouldn't surprise that this board will have a slight skew towards earning above median (for those who are working and not studying).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All the memes aside I’d say the average iq is significantly above the average of the general population, especially when you consider that the average person is a retard who can barely use the internet and even the average college graduate these days is pretty unsophisticated in their ideas and opinions. There are lots of bizarre ideas on here but lots of them come from a place of over rather than under thinking.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All the memes aside I’d say the average iq is significantly above the average of the general population, especially when you consider that the average person is a retard who can barely use the internet and even the average college graduate these days is pretty unsophisticated in their ideas and opinions. There are lots of bizarre ideas on here but lots of them come from a place of over rather than under thinking.

        This is literally what that other anon was saying though, you guys are all supposedly doing perfectly fine but because you don't have any friends or don't have a girlfriend or some shit the international gnomish cabal is fucking up your life.

        Yeah dude. I'm sure ~~*they*~~ all sat in a room chomping matzah and decided today was the day to implement their carefully-crafted plan that keeps (You) from getting laid.

        This isn't an action movie. Nobody here is anyone special.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          sorry about your late-stage brain cancer anon

          You guys are pathetic. It’s always misdirection and ad hominem shit. I don’t hate gnomish people especially not ones I meet in person that would be fucking stupid. But to not point out that they act as a group against our interests is absolutely mind boggling fucking retarded. If you’re gnomish then I don’t blame you at all for what you write. But if you’re white then you are hopelessly pathetic and stupid.
          >source: picrated publish in HARVARD magazine by a tenured professor at our best university

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >picrated publish in HARVARD magazine by a tenured professor at our best university
            Yeah and if you had an IQ above room temperature you'd realize that this is the same old line about getting rid of the IDEA of WHITENESS, not WHITE PEOPLE. You know, the "one-drop rule," the fictional idea of the "white race" that keeps changing. The founding fathers believed that the "white race" was only Anglo-Saxons, then whoops Germans get in too. Then whoops Spaniards get in too. Then whoops Italians get in too. Then whoops Slavs get in too. Then whoops Gaels get in too. It's one big piece of batshit, arbitrary cope that people in America came up with literally for the sake of deciding who gets property rights and who gets to work the fields ("white" people today that weren't anglos got shit on too). The only people in Europe that believe this shit are people who bought into American brainrot. The rest of the euros are shitting on each other using national identity as they have for thousands of years.

            If you're so heavily tied to the idea that you are "white" then you either must have absolutely nothing else going on in your life or you have such dreadfully low self-esteem that all of your confidence is placed in some mythical philosopher-king ancestry when you were in all likelihood descended from the same 80 IQ serfs that the rest of the worldly population came from. You are so lonely and desperate for attention that you have created a conspiracy that revolves around yourself so you can star in your own mental action movie. The closest thing to a worldly conspiracy out there is the fact that the rich are rich and want you to stay poor.
            >b-b-but the rich are gnomish!!!
            No you dumbfuck, SOME of them are gnomish. The rest are white, black, yellow, and every other color under the fucking sun. And let's be clear: the white ones do NOT give a single shit about you.

            Get help anon. You can still save yourself. It's a happier world on the outside, I can promise you that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >t. “STOP NOTICING THINGS: The Post”

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It really surprises me how fucking stupid (or dishonest) you are. We talk about garden gnomes because they’re by far the most committed anti white group of people on the face of the earth. They are repeatedly on the record as saying they want to eliminate white people and subvert our countries through immigration. And guess what? They’re fucking doing it! Of course we’re going to talk about them you fucking cunt it’s absolutely insane how it’s not even allowed in polite discussion. It has to be the first time in history where a group is openly seeking to displace and destroy another and the other group won’t even talk about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sorry about your late-stage brain cancer anon

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    never stop trying to make it

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    5 seconds before you die

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never. That idea makes no sense. Let's say you made it at age 25 and "it's too late by 30" then what happens when you are 30 and have made it by 25? After those 5 years what happens? You stop making it? Why would you make it in the first place if it's over in 5 years?

    It's never too late unless we are talking about like 1 year before you die which you don't know in the first place.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Never. That idea makes no sense. Let's say you made it at age 25 and "it's too late by 30" then what happens when you are 30 and have made it by 25? After those 5 years what happens? You stop making it? Why would you make it in the first place if it's over in 5 years?
      Based. Demoralizers WON'T have an answer for this...

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Just turned 29
    >recently getting my shit together
    >dyel but have been at it for a few months
    >still trying to get my career off the ground
    >came from an abusive home so i had a lot of baggage and didnt know how to live for a very long time
    >had to cut ties with family so very lonely
    >think about how i am not good enough constantly

    I have my ups and downs but currently am experiencing a down. Just wanted to share, commiserate a little

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I had a similar experience anon
      I think you are on track timeline wise. Plough through with dignity, which you will.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks fren i appreciate it

        Wagmi

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just turned 30 and have 100k in the bank from working. i only have one friend who i actually hang out with irl and I think he might actually be retarded.

    what should i do with my money and how do you meet ppl u chads

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's shit, by 22 I had 50k from working like a dog but I'm a semi neet now. Invest into ETFs, don't spend like a women and you should be good.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Age 18
    You know exactly by then if you're going to make it or not

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I Unironically gave up on life for a few years and fell into a depression when I hit 24 because Randal Orton was a world champ at 24, and I was a college dropout. This was retard mark logic.

    It’s never too late my dudes. Just do better than you did the day before.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you have no idea how quickly phrases and images like this make vaginas dry up

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
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        Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Whew, I'm safe. Thanks, I needed to hear this.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/doD83w4.jpg

        i would happily be friends with such people

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Made it regarding what? A job? Lifting some weights? Having sex? These three things are things that are not making it at all. These are simply the pre requisites

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God Sigma males are cringey as fuck
    I guarantee nobody who's actually successful spends time looking at and making these retarded images

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >grindset
    >making it
    Pick one

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I had 800K at 23 years but lost -90% of it in the last 6 months kek

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How and why?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Markets crashed across the board+leverage trading

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    literally never
    not even after death

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Death
    And even then.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this is good advice for anyone over 20. one of the worst parts of the pandemic was losing my core group moved away

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >25 yrs old
    >320lbs, college dropout, NEET, never had a job, no friends, KHHV
    >32 yrs old
    >Married to a 23yr old tradcath, daughter on the way (*hits pipe*), 228lbs (roided, not fat), $90k/yr easy job in a very secure field, a few friends, most of the way through my MBA/MS
    Just in case anyone needed a white pill. You can bump the first stage up to 28 yrs old if you take off the morbidly obese part. The secret is joining the military and sucking to zog for 4 years in exchange for entry into the middle class

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      as a depressed 24 year old, i find your story pretty motivating

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Idk your situation but I'd recommend the military to anyone for whom it is an option and whose primary life issue is not having a career. Enlist in the air force/navy/coast guard, hold out for a job with good private career prospects, use TA to do college when youre in, then after 4yrs hop into a comfy government or contractor gig doing the same thing for twice the pay

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i live in a shit hole country where the only way to join the military is to actually bribe someone. they only accept a limited number each year. and they are all people who have connections to the political party in power. same goes for every other decent job in this shit hole. making it seems impossible for me, when my countrymen are literal morons

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Egypt?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              worse, Kosovo, not even a fully recognized country

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just work in an eu country for a bit and save up

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i need to get a visa for that, and that's a pretty hard thing to do

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                have you even tried? or did you just hear its hard and gave up

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That depends on at what age you made it

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >At what age should you stop trying to make it?
    In the very first day you turn dead.
    As in "I'm clinically dead now, my relatives are mourning my passage and will burry/cremate my body, there's no point in trying to make it anymore"

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm only doing the 9-5 grind so me and my future wife can buy a farm and fuck off from society

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m so jealous of how successful everyone on IST is. These types of threads on here every day just make me more and more despondent over my clear mental illness that has led me to the situation I am in at nearly 30. Even the people here who weren’t doing well in their late teens early 20s managed to find some key to unlock their depressive or loser mentality to lead then to success. It never came for me. I’ve never found the motivation to overcome this. Just wallowing in misery. Sigh.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was doing bad too but I found God and let him work through me. I lean on God and he provides, and with his help I transformed myself and my circumstances. He gave me the strength and made me see clearly that no matter what I do, I cannot fail. I am just here to serve him and manifest his will. He is in everything and I am a part of him

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The funny thing is that the people who make these pictures do neither of those

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you kind of have to do column 1 before column 2 though...

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I stopped trying to make it after 30ish and have never been happier. I lift lighter weights, work a lower-paying job and gave up my oneitis but I have fun friends now, several girls and the skills to survive on the streets

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How did you make friends at that age

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        skateboarding mostly

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you haven't made it by 20 you will never make it. You are all losers in denial. I wish we had old IST back and not you fucking losers shitting up this board

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I made it at 18-20 but fell into deep shit at 21-23 and had to start over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, you mean the old IST that was much more positive and upbeat than you sad demoralizing losers infesting the board today? That old IST?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >demoralizing
        election fetuses like you don't belong here

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I already made it at 23 when I won 3m after taxes off the lotto. So 23

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a Millennial (26+)

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    27, engaged, make 36k GBP with a large career ladder to climb, have a few small investments and no debt, thinking about moving to Wales so I can afford property. How am I doing?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd say you're on track, good job

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks, I live in an expensive place and have nothing to my name but I feel like I'm in a good place to get the ball rolling.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    When you’re dead

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The age where you die

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Bros I am wage slaving in cyber security and I don’t really see a way to turn my knowledge into a business. Anyone have any ideas? Do I need to make a career change or get a finance degree or something?

    Maybe I’m just not creative enough but I can’t imagine doing anything other than opening some boring cyber security consultancy business. And I’m still limited by my own time, I can’t scale that out in order to make money while I’m not working

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you start today you can make it in 5 years
    How old will you be in 5 years if you don't try?

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    6.

    If you're not a child prodigy genius with a myostatin mutation and a net worth of 500k, you might as well go fucking have a nice day right now.

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >my life revolves around money
    >muh investing
    Jesus Christ can you fucking drones stop being so addicted to the paper garden gnomes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      IST complains nonstop about garden gnomes but then all this place ever talks about is money, working for money, doing everything possible for money, getting more money, etc. it's very funny projection.

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    22, poor family, dropped out of engineering during Covid and changed my university to learn Philosophy. Now I am a year from graduating, have basically 0 hard skills that I could earn money from. The only job I've ever had was two months in a warehouse. Living with parents, but aside of living there I get no support. Plus a broken psyche from living with Mother that destroyed me mentally.

    Can I even attempt to try to make it at this point? I've swallowed the IT pill lately and decided to pursue job in programming, so I study Python for a few hours everyday. Maybe In a year or two I'll be able to land at least an entry level job in IT. THat how 'making it' would look to me. A stable job in something I can stomach and money enough to live alone. People whobuy their own houses, start families or even begin to start their own businesses...they are total abstraction to me. An entirely different plane of existence that is not only unreachable, but also wholy uncomprehendable. Maybe If I had any friends or people to talk to regularly I'd begin to understand how people like that live.

    Idk, sometimes I feel like a a humanoidal cockroach, but even Kafka's cockroach was a breadwinner with career and rent from srving in a war. Reading threads like this reminds me that a live of a normal man is as distant from mine as any fantasy novel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, you can. Ignore the people trying to put a timeline on this shit. Their definition of "struggle" is studying while they had a hangover.

  57. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My dad abandoned me and my mom was a nurse and I managed to make it by 30 you can do it too lads.

  58. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  59. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Complacency is a sin.

  60. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 35 and fit, but I only make enough money to afford rent on an apartment with my gf. I work 20 hours a month and love my life.

  61. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Funny thing about making it, I've always been ssuHispanicious why there's always this reocurring story of a guy that's poor, yet has a girlfriend, helpful family member or friends. Next to none stories about a kissless virgin who makes it, it's always normal people who had it harder.

    That's because people like that always drop off. Most probably just kills themselves, or become homeless from mental breakdowns. That's the biggest blackpills out there about making it: It's not about the money, it's about having an enjoyable life and meaningful connections to others. Most people are satisfied with simple living because having other people is enough for them, why toil for more if your subjective experience will not get noticably better?

    Unless you are a schizo, you shouldn't even attempting to make it if you are a freak, you will only regret it in the long run.

  62. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How much does it cost to open a business?

  63. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    imagine actually discussing that boring shit with your friends lmao
    The only people I knew that worshiped those Wolf of Wallstreet type memes were college dropouts that ended up at mcdonalds

  64. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Never but your chances of making it increase exponentially the earlier you tried making it.

    I am in a high tech managerial role right now (190k/yr) and all of my peers including me started Pursuing tech careers since we were 16. Talking taking the CCNA, NET+ and SEC+ before applying for college. By the time college was over most of us were only 1 year away from a CISSP because we all got mediocre tech jobs on the side to buff up those experience years. We are now 26-28. and we have been on the job on average for 2 years.

    I can speak for cyber security/IT it is absolutely over if you do not have at minimum a cissp/ccnp by 24. The tech industry as a whole is brutal now with how early kids are hopping in the tech train. I do not even bother looking a resume for a entry level position from a college/masters graduate unless I see 3-4 entry level certs and a couple mid level certs + 2 years experience. I would never consider someone for anything above entry level unless they have CISSP in my field.

    It’s a trap unless you have started tech/IT early in your life you will never get the entry/mid level job that qualifies you for higher level certs such as the cissp. You will be stuck in perpetual entry level jobs that do nothing to build your resume because why give a 27 year old a chance at a mid level job where he MIGHT get some of the higher level certs and move up when I can higher a 22 year old who is only steps away with job experience already under the belt. Plus I can probably convince the 22 year old to pay for most of his own travel/certification expenses.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck man I'd love to live in America. I am earning a (compared to the average) good salary working in tech here, but not even my manager's manager earns 190k/yr. That's basically CEO tier here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck this sucks to hear because I've been considering going into tech at 28 with no experience. I had the suHispanicion that tech was oversaturated, but wasn't too sure

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fuck this sucks to hear because I've been considering going into tech at 28 with no experience. I had the suHispanicion that tech was oversaturated, but wasn't too sure

      I'm going to go into tech anyway, almost 23 y old here. Nothing else seems to be viable to me. It's that or a jumping from a bridge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm retired now, thank fuck I got out of tech early. I was a unix sysadmin making 140k for about 4 hours of real actual work a week. I spent another 36 hours in the office goofing off though because muh management.

  65. 1 month ago
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  66. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    100
    no mortal man should play god and live past 100 we shouldnt even be living past 30 but due to our overlords needing more and longer work weve been "gifted" longer lives

  67. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buy my program.

    >You don't want to miss out on your 20s do you?
    >You don't want this great thing called LIFE to pass you by do you?
    >I can save you, literally the money you invest in me will be nothing compared to the millions you'll make
    >no gf ever? Holy shit bro, you NEED me

    It's really that easy to manipulate the youth.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's really that easy to manipulate the youth.
      People who fall for that don't have proper parents or are desperate. If someone doesn't fall for that he isn't exactly smart - he's lucky.

  68. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    im 30 completely failed normie, my only advice is to do anything. It literally doesn't matter what.

  69. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    your death bed

  70. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whats a main circle?

  71. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was on my way to making it before I deadlifted more than i could handle, I prolapsed heavily and lost a lot of blood and now I have to wear diapers, i've just given up on getting women and don't even try anymore. Oh yea, I also have about 300k in medical debt now.

  72. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you'll never be a billionaire

  73. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    24 years old. I say this as a khv skinnyfat 27 years old. Fuck me

    Dropped out with only a ccna certificate to my name. Now i make a lousy 22$/hr QC specialist

    I just accepted my fate and will continue fasting and meal prepping

    I will aggree with some anons in the thread that without earlier exp in it and certificates its a no brainer

    I hope u zoomer do better than me

  74. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The thing that hurts the most is that I had the advantages that lots of people in this thread railed against some other anons for having. Upper middle class parents, 4.0+ GPA all thru middle school and high school with many AP classes, got auto accepted into top 10 public universities that my parents were able to pay tuition for (I worked part time 3 years to pay everything besides tuition).

    However, despite all the studying and academic accomplishments, I never actually had any goals. Basically just studied to study. Didn't even have any major I wanted to do, took my mother's, college was absolute shit for me, socially isolated, got a degree. I wasted all my 20s while living in the tech capital of the world hearing about how smart and rich everyone here is while I have wasted away at a shit job the whole time. I was a prime candidate who should have just gone to a CC despite my academic accomplishments, but no, I was too good for that.

    I'm 30 and now just think of suicide 24/7. I have put in 2 weeks notice to leave this job next Friday with nothing lined up. I have gained barely any skills in all these years at this job and have no idea what to even look for, but going to this job every day makes me want to kill myself even more. I just don't care any more. I welcome and pray for death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      lol almost identical settis.
      I don't understand why, why I pissed away my 20s why I suffered this whole time without moral. Just suffering for its own sake. I didn't even need to, but I couldn't go to friends and family and ask for help. I was 'above that'.
      Well I still am and will probably die before asking for help. Im going back to the military in preparation for WW3. If that doesnt happen Ill find whatever local conflict is going on and go die there. At least then my family can say: oh yeah he fought for x or whatever. Then they can feel a little pride in my death instead of the sorrow and shame if I blow my own brains out

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i wasted my 20s away because of social isolation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          same, actually a failed normie that had a 7/10 gf and everything. I just withdrew to the drink and broke all contact with anyone I knew as I descended into multiple failures rather than share my shame

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Halfway through my 20s and aI feel the same.
          I will never forgive them for crushing my burgeoning post-college social life over a fucking flu.

  75. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i got an office job without a degree
    you should find a job after highschool and you can continue college while working

  76. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Accept your current position in life, you can't change the past, let bygones be bygones, ask Jesus for help and forgiveness, try & be the best version of you you can be whether you're 5'4", balding, male model tier etc, you'll feel a lot better at least than giving up on life and becoming an alcoholic junk food eating chain smoking lowlife low energy hikki

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >ou can't change the past, let bygones be bygones
      People say this all the time "the past is the past let it go". I cannot possibly let it go. I can't let go of basically three decades of social autism. No experiences, friends, relationships, career, nothing. 30 years old. A completely wasted life.
      > than giving up on life and becoming an alcoholic junk food eating chain smoking lowlife low energy hikki
      I'm not at that point yet but extremely close. I don't drink, drugs, eat junk food, etc. I'll likely never devolve into that. But I will just waste away and then try to get some medication or sodium nitrite

  77. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All I want for in this life is a gf. Once I have that, I will have made it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      that will come and it can get worse bro.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It will come and it will go too. Sounds p dumb to be giving your satisfaction entirely into the control of another person - even if they don't consciously manipulate you with it, when something doesn't work out it will pull the rug from under you and you'll crash and burn.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I got a gf finally when I was like 23. I enjoyed about 2 years of being a normalfag (people treat you normally when you have a gf) until the dark cloud that had been following all my life returned as easy as if he'd never been gone. I wouldn't have kept dating me, but she also sucked and I wanted out besides, and then I descended into new lows I didnt even think were possible!
          So for the love of God you need to find something more than a gf to break the cycle.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            IKTF. I found one at 21, it lasted for like half a year (about half of which was normal and the other half was "trying to make it work"), after which it fell apart and I was in shambles. I was not that far off goal weight during that period funnily, but poor and my self-esteem was at crab-bucket level.

            Self-esteem got a lot better but the weight drifted as I never lost the habit to stress eat, didn't find out about keto snacks until recently and only joined a gym 1 month ago.

  78. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck even is "making it"? Financially? Sexual relations? Target BMI/BF%/PRs? Job security? All of these at once?

  79. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you think it's over and you're under 50 you've just internalized female cope and projection

  80. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 23 my deadline is 30 years old. From there I'll just focus on being physically active and that's it.

  81. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I am 31. Earlier this year I got a tech job making 160,000 dollars annual remotely. I have never had sex or a girlfriend. My hairline started receding two years ago. I had been weight training casually for several years but now I want to train seriously again. My sleep is my biggest problem. I have some kind of apnea or anxiety that makes me wake up and see shit at night. I have also been training muay thai for 6 months because I dont want to be useless in a fight.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >once again, job/salary the very first thing they mention
      congratulations anon i hope it has brought you happiness

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only partially. I no longer have to hustle but I am also constantly worried about getting fired for not doing enough.

        what job what is your background in the industry

        Unreal Engine 5. Learn to code in it and people will shower you with money.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          bro nobody wants to fight you
          >oh shit it's a bald nerd in his 30s, get him!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm going to be in a fight one day. I want to be ready.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Only fight you'll be in is your brain fighting the drive to suicide and you will lose. But at least you will have your mountain of money and fully remote job that will definitely assist you in meeting people

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What is the point you're trying to make?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what job what is your background in the industry

  82. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, just turned 20 this summer but have no friends so I guess I am safe

  83. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >29
    >no friends most of life
    >kissless virgin
    >basically shut in outside of humiliating job
    >small extended family i never speak to because no reason since my life is worthless
    >parents are friendless shut-ins as well, both retired then went back to work within a few months because they have no friends, no hobbies, do nothing but watch tv
    haha i can still make it right guys haha

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The best thing I can recommend is to try learning a new skill, preferably in some kind of class where you can both meet people and keep to a schedule. Colleges will let you audit classes for super cheap if you ask nicely.

  84. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    While you should never stop trying to improve yourself if you haven't "made it" by 35 you need to give up on the pipedream and readjust your goals. Your life is over. Start planning for your sad lonely life.

  85. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think I've made it bros. 24th bday is tomorrow, married, 200k combined income, house, close to 2/3/4/5. Think it's time for some breeding now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Good job, Anon. I am glad you achieved your goals.

  86. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think I've made it bros. 23rd bday is tomorrow, married, 300k combined income, 2 houses, close to 3/4/5/6. Think it's time for some breeding now

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >3pl8 ohp
      larp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post body

  87. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone on IST is 150-200k faang engineer by age 22 again
    its truly unbelievable.

  88. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    test

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread has reminded me how much I hate most of you. To those killing it, I wish you great satisfaction in life. To those real life RPing as gays, I wish the same upon you. WIN

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never give up gays. Here's a little story for you:
    >NEET / semi-NEET (= part-time jobs) for most of my 20s
    >literally living in my parent's basement until my 32
    >finally decide to change my life
    >invest into a career that I knew I'd love to be in
    >1 year later, start job hunting
    >eventually get a internship
    >internship becomes full wagie contract
    >finally enough money to rent my own apartment
    >get motivated to start dieting & work out
    >lost 20kg in ~ 5 months period (103kg to 83kg)
    >girls finally notice me again
    >meet a younger, hot girl
    >start dating, then it gets more serious
    >we are now living together
    >geo 2 good wage raises within my 2 years in the company + a promotion
    >basically now I'm out-mogging all my friends that had "made it" (younger gf, higher income, better body / health)
    If a 32-35 y.o. boomer can do it, so can you. Never give up.

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