At what point did you grow out of heavy squats and deadlifts?
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Once i realised i don't want big muscles. I am much happier as a skinny lanky dyel than a muscly man. Who needs muscles anyways?
This. Once I decided to start transitioning to a fake woman, I gave up heavy lifts.
>I am much happier as a skinny lanky dyel than a muscly man.
You could be even happier by being my cum bag
never went heavy on those.
intuitively knew risk reward factor is off the charts against them.
you build into lifting heavy, it'd be foolish brazenly lifting heavy with less than a couple years of proper training and nutrition and sleep
still. one bad day. one slip. one mistake. injury.
risk/reward = no thank you
look at the webm freak injury threads. its usually deadlifts squats olympic stuff that destroys people.
Happened to me when running conjugate.
>low box squat max effort day
>weight felt great on eccentric and out of the hole
>suddenly knee snaps
From then on I decided I would work in hypertrophy rep ranges.
>still. one bad day. one slip. one mistake. injury.
Not how it works.
You gain experience and learn your body, you get a ton of signs usually before an injury. Those .webm's are morons or elite athletes going for maximum effort lifts, those are always going to be risky but that is the posrt.
I genuinely dont get how u can hurt yourself doing squats...and i dont mean a ridiculous amount of weight...say sub 4 plates
Actually 4 pl8s is impressive...id say keeping it between 2 and 3pl8s for reps. If thats not your ego lift how the hell do u injure yourself
If you buttwink or lean forward too much its really easy
Thats why you never made gains
It was last year. Realized my upper body is lagging compared to my lower body. I limit my leg days to once a week. I mostly do leg press and RDL with moderate weight. I do front squats but do it for 1pl8.
> leg press and RDL
> 1 plate front squat
> lower body once a week
your lower body is just as DYEL as your upper body. Guaranteed
ok
>upper body lagging
Welll, I’m certainly not going to train upper body harder, just start skipping leg days and then (not) post my body on IST
Get the frick OUT of here
>front squats but do it for 1pl8
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i hope for your sake that you're a sub 50kg female
nta but I max out at 165x10 b/c shit hurts my fingers
back squat is 3pl8 for reps
The redpill is to do squats and deadlifts but light weight slow and controlled with high volume. No injuries and nice gains.
Is high volume better in general since the tendons and ligaments get worked? Old school bodybuilders weren’t constantly getting injured and I think it’s cause of their high volume
Truth. High rep squats are very restorative.
Define ideal high rep? 12? 15? 20?
try 135x50 srs
That entire 12-20 rep range is great. I personally don't like going much higher because I care about hypertrophy
I like 8-12, but with a slowed tempo which basically makes the set last as long as a 12-20 rep set
I'll let you know if it happens (it won't).
>pause ATG high-bar squats
>pause wide grip deficit RDLs
Out of my way dyels
Have you found wide-grip RDLs better than weighted pullups for back-width?
I don't do RDLs for lats, I do them for hamstrings/glutes/erectors. The wide grip is just so that I can go deeper. Pullups/chinups have always been the best exercise for back width for me (though rows and pullovers have helped quite a bit as well)
>DL for lats
bro you stupid?
post back
it's small because I only do DLs for back
As much as I hate to admit it, this is in fact a based post
Took me about 10 years of lifting. I always struggled with squats due to knee pain and after stretches and mobility work and every kind of form change I just gave up like 2 years ago. I've DL'd on and off forever but I'm debating changing something because they're never very comfortable and hurt my back. Again, despite years of experimenting and good flexibility and form. I'm going to experiment with sumo one last time since I have rather long legs and that's the stance I use to pick heavy shit up off the ground naturally anyway.
I've gone through long periods of no DL's and instead doing RDL's. Squats have been replaced with leg press, sled drag's, and lunges. It really doesn't matter as long as you're training legs and back using reasonable compound movements. Squat and DL are great beginner lifts and learning the technique is important from a skills perspective for any lifter. Once you have it down you can experiment with alternatives. Some morphologies just struggle with those movements.
>I just gave up
Kek, I hope I never become a quitter like you
After I snapped my knee 3 months ago
Never going back. All they need is to be tone so I stick to babby weight now. Upper body has been making mad gains since I moved on
how'd you snap your knee?
I don't squat nor DL heavy yet I mog everyone at my gym
t. 6'7" and 19" arms lean, bideltoid and arms are all that matters. My legs are only 26" which adds to my v-taper, squat-enthusiasts are bottom b***hes
Post your amazing body
>my small, dainty legs are masculine as frick
>those squat enjoyers with large, powerful legs are feminine gays!!
Sure
He probably has bigger legs than you, manlet. And he's right, the leg-dominant SS physique looks feminine
squat-let
When I injured my lower back while doing deadlifts. I couldn’t pick up a bottle from the ground or do a squat with empty barbell.
My back was ridiculous weak for months.
Want to lift and squat heavy again but this experience left me back with a bad trauma. I get anxiety when I want to lift a barbell which is a bit challenging
>he didn’t respect the iron
*fixes you*
It doesn't, I've been doing 5 sets of 20 reps with 100 kg, but I'd still get back pain from deadlifts and heavy front squats. I have anatomically inefficient back for it.
I pushed my squat for years, couldn't figure out a good way to go heavy without destroying my knees. I don't do heavy squats anymore, I figured that I'm either too moronic to figure it out or just built different. Now I do barbell split squats, leg press, barbell hip thrusts, and RDLs. Also I swim. Feels pretty good and none of it makes me feel like my knees are going to explode.
after i injured my hip squatting and deadlifting
>this whole thread
Holy frick resolutioners are even shitting up my spot online.
Does anyone else find that High-bar ATG actually feels good on the knees whereas low-bar parallel makes your knees feel like theyre coming to a screeching halt?
Literally me, I tried low-bar parallel not long ago and despite the fact that I can do sissy squats and high-bar ATG just fine with no knee pain that shit shredded my knees. I ditched them and went back to high-bar ATG in the same workout and by the end of the workout my knees felt fine again lmao.
Ok good I'm not the only one. Plus going all the way down you don't have to question whether you hit parallel or not. It also looks way more chad. Clarence0 on youtube for example
Definitely agree. Slow eccentric + pause makes them insanely good for hypertrophy, only squat variation that makes me get a pump in all the prime movers + can actually feel my quads during the set
Low bar just feels weirder all around for me to get used to and it also made my lower back feel more strained. It seems like it should be the better more natural way to squat though on paper. I just don't want to or feel like I can adjust as well low bar.
Always. I don’t want weird trashcan legs and no amount of “hurr skipped leg day” seething will make me start doing this shit.
As soon as I hit 500lb for 3 and realized it’s moronic and not good for you and switched to hack squat mainly. Also I have this bro science theory that legs require a lot more recovery than other muscles so they kill your upper body gains. I like big legs but you need an even bigger upper body. Also finding pants that fit sucks ass
once i realized how high my body fat normally sits. once i truely cut deep, my ass and thighs were ballons. ngl it looked pretty good but i definitely dont want them bigger, at least until my upper body gets some serious mass. to top it off, i have hips as wide as a womans, i basically look like a sexy braphog from the abs down. No, i wont post pics.
do feet together squats it'll hit your quads and calves with absolutely zero knee pain
or bulgarian split squats
After realizing that there's 0 real world difference between having a 220 kg squat and a 120 kg one. Same with deadlifts.
It's not worth the constant back pain and injuries, unless you're a professional athlete, making money from sports.
ITT: pussies sharing their excuses
Post body
I do wonder how much of a meme it is. There are two middle age white guys at my gym that are pretty big actually and I don't recall ever seeing them do these lifts.
A-are 80kg squats good as a novice bros?
When I finally hit 200kg DL and Squat. Just didn’t feel like going heavier. Now I only do Rings and barely hit legs.
Im 43 and stopped back squats this year. 2 herniated discs in lower spine make it not worth it. On a 6month break fro mDeads to help shit heal. Still power cleaning though.
6'1" 200lbs, obviously jacked
What caused it?
Unless you have basically flawless anatomical relations and perfect form any bending under weight causes disc pathology. Most people aren't aware of it and everyone over 30 has plenty if you had an MRI.
Thing is it builds up silently. I herniated my disc on a warmup set just with the bar, but obviously that wasn't what did the bulk of the damage. MRI showed a few other levels were bulging so I stopped doing squats or DLs.
What do you do instead?
Leg extension/curls.
Leg press.
Weighted lunges.
Not ideal but I have terrible flexibility and it's just not worth risking big compounds anymore. My permanently 'boggy' feeling left foot is a good reminder. I couldn't imagine if it was sore all the time like most get so I consider myself fortunate and don't want to push it.
at 22
Never, I can now squat 210kg and deadlift 225, hoping to do 220 squat and 240 deadlift in 2-3 months then ill start cutting.
Long term goal is 300kg on both in ~4 years
When you slip your first disc.
after watching this
Is he die?
Once I started combat sports, really.
what is HEAVY for you my dude?
Heavy for me its 4pl8s squat and 5pl8s diddy
I don't really do low rep high intensity sets anymore. I just do easy sets of 12 with 4pl8