At what point do you use the below

At what point do you use the below

> Belt
> Knee sleeves
> Wrist wraps

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >> Belt
    provides real benefits no matter what what level of lifting experience you're on, no reason to not use it for your big main lifts unless your retarded routine has 0 core accessories
    >> Knee sleeves
    meme
    >> Wrist wraps
    meme
    /thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      sleeves aren't a meme, and neither are wraps. you also don't thread your own post newfag.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that is the number one reason not to use it gay, so you dont have to waste time doing core accessories

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >hanging legs raise isn't part of his routine
        unironically ngmi

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the belt is good for bracing. Learning to brace or reminding to brace and keep bracing.

    Knee sleeves give warmth to the knees and can add kgs to squat if they are tight. They can also help with knee pain

    Wrist wraps are good If your wrists are weak and or hurt. (fix weak wrists don't just use wraps)

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Make sure it matches your purse gay

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Belt
    Never, actively assists the lift. Only use if you compete.
    >Sleeves
    Ony if recovering from tendonitis, otherwise actively assists the lift and should not be used unless you compete.
    >Wrist wraps
    If your wrists hurt or when doing max attempts. Does not assist the lift, so no concern.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wearing anything at the gym
      ngmi

      also, ditch the shoes and straps.
      Raw lifting best lifting

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      “actively assists the lift” implies that belts do anything but provide a cue for your body to brace itself. they don’t move any other f the weight for you, they just keep you from breaking your fucking spine, dipshit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        there's very little research supporting the idea belts prevent injury. they just make bracing easier and increase IAP. either way people who are purist about lifting with no belt are fags

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't increasing iap a good thing?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. I'm just saying that there's no evidence that actually prevents injury vs beltless injury. belts can actually be bad hernias and you could go the other way too and say a beltlless lifter will be more load aware than a belted lifter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they do though, not sure what weird cope youre experiencing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        People who are experienced with using a belt and without using one can add up to 70 kgs to a lift when they wear one.
        The belt assists the lift. Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just telling you how it is.

        >you shouldn't use things that assist the lift if you don't compete
        why not gay? If I lift more with them I'm getting stronger either way.

        If your goal is to improve your strength, then what point is there in using a device that artificially inflates your lifting ability?
        In competition, you should use whatever the rules allow, because everyone else will and its about throwing up the biggest number you can, even if you have to do gross shit like wearing a body suit and arching your back like a McDonald's sign.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >If your goal is to improve your strength, then what point is there in using a device that artificially inflates your lifting ability?
          >artificially
          retarded as fuck. if I'm lifting more weight by progressively loading, I'm getting stronger. The more load I'm lifting, the bigger I'll get. What you're saying basically boils down to "if you're trying to improve your strength, why are you using stuff that helps you get stronger". If you're not competing the rules with what gear, and what form you can use are even wider since it's all just personal progress.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry, you're the retard here.
            Obviously you're still doing progressive overload, equipment or not. But if your 1rm is, say, 425 with a piece of equipment and 405 without it, then you can't lift 425. You can lift 405, and the piece of equipment can lift 20.
            So what possible point is there in wasting money on this piece of equipment that adds 20 lbs to your lift, without actually making you stronger? Just to progressive overload without it.

            >muh artificial
            barbells are artificial too by that logic, based clown
            if you're so deep into this purity crap, then i welcome you to quit the gym and start lifting nothing but rocks you find outside
            all belt does is make you able to brace in a way that is impossible to be reproduced raw
            the same way barbells are artificially built for optimal and balanced lifting by humans
            quit this artificial crap, it doesn't make you sound smart, it's the other way around

            Yeah, because the barbell lifts itself. You're not clever for taking a reasonable statement and extrapolating to an absurdity. You're a clown.
            If you think the belt doesn't assist you, then I welcome you to do a 1RM deadlift with it, and then try the same lift without it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >But if your 1rm is, say, 425 with a piece of equipment and 405 without it, then you can't lift 425
              Yeah I can because I lifted it, dumb gay.
              >So what possible point is there in wasting money on this piece of equipment that adds 20 lbs to your lift, without actually making you stronger?
              But it does make you stronger, I just lifted more weight with it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The equipment is not part of you. It is outside assistance. Does wearing a bench suit mean your pectorals are actually stronger? Does wearing a slingshot? They don't. They are a way to store energy outside of your muscles which you can use to assist the lift.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                A bench suit provides way more assistance than a belt, sleeves or wraps. that's why there's raw and geared powerlifting gay. If I'm lifting more weight I'm bearing more load and will get bigger. If I can lift the weight, I can lift the weight. Simple as. And if someone wants to wear a bench suit, and a slingshot when they bench for fun its their choice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >A bench suit provides way more assistance
                >more assistance
                So you acknowledge that it provide assistance.
                >If I'm lifting more weight I'm bearing more load and will get bigger.
                You are not lifting more weight. If you set a cable stack to 150 lbs, and I apply 20 lbs of upward force on the stack to assist the lift, you are only lifting 130 lbs. This is what equipment is doing for you. If you lift 425 with equipment and 405 without it, when you put that equipment on and do your lift, you are still only applying 405 lbs of stimulus to your muscles.
                >If I can lift the weight, I can lift the weight
                You can't. You can lift what you can lift raw, the equipment can lift what it lifts.

                [...]
                Equipped lifters are still stupid strong and world class without their gear. Every person raging about gear is some weak shit gay who doesn’t compete, doesn’t post lifts showing their superior strength and is bigot reddit

                I never said they weren't. I'm simply saying that equipment does what it does: it assists you, and it's pointless to waste money on it if you're not in a competition for lifting the most weight.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >So you acknowledge that it provide assistance
                Never said it didn't retard. The belt is a small bump compared to what equipped lifters are getting. It's like 5-15%.
                >You are not lifting more weight. If you set a cable stack to 150 lbs, and I apply 20 lbs of upward force on the stack to assist the lift, you are only lifting 130 lbs. This is what equipment is doing for you. If you lift 425 with equipment and 405 without it, when you put that equipment on and do your lift, you are still only applying 405 lbs of stimulus to your muscles.
                I am lifting more weight because I lifted it retard. If I hadn't lifted more weight, then the weight would be the same. I'm still bearing more load even if the bel is making it easier. It's also way easier to learn proper bracing with a belt. My beltless bracing has gotten better from lifting with a belt.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I am lifting more weight because I lifted it retard. If I hadn't lifted more weight, then the weight would be the same.
                If the cable machine example did not make it clear to you, your are beyond understanding.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If the cable machine example did not make it clear to you, your are beyond understanding.
                No, you're just a massive retard. The belt isn't applying upward force. It's increasing IAP, I am generating more force than I would be beltless. I am still bearing more load and I'll get bigger from more load. Also most people who train with a belt do warmup singles with no belt, only retards train with a belt when they're deadlifting 2pl8 warmup sets.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >progressive overload is impossible without a belt
            jesus my lord

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              No one said that retard.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >muh artificial
          barbells are artificial too by that logic, based clown
          if you're so deep into this purity crap, then i welcome you to quit the gym and start lifting nothing but rocks you find outside
          all belt does is make you able to brace in a way that is impossible to be reproduced raw
          the same way barbells are artificially built for optimal and balanced lifting by humans
          quit this artificial crap, it doesn't make you sound smart, it's the other way around

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you shouldn't use things that assist the lift if you don't compete
      why not gay? If I lift more with them I'm getting stronger either way.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wearing anything at the gym
    ngmi

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >belt
    squats: above 200, deads: above 220
    >knee sleeves
    If Im squatting I put them on immediately as I start warming up, my knees are fucked and the sleeves help alot.
    >wraps
    Depends, I usually pull with wraps as I've gotten used to it and have no ambition to compete.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you mean straps right? wrist wraps are for wrist support and comp legal in raw PL.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh fuck, I messed that up. Yeah I rarely use wraps. I sprained my wrist a couple of weeks ago so I use it for some movements that pull "to the side" of my wrist, like curls etc, otherwise no wrist wraps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >squats: above 200, deads: above 220
      kg or lb?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Belt
    Always. Brace yourself against it.
    >Chewing gum
    Also always.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Belt is bad BECAUSE it helps you get stronger
    The absolute fucking state of this board

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it does not make you stronger, cause your core is not getting as much activation, by that logic equipped lifters are the strongest people on earth, cause it helps them get stronger

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Your core is getting as much activation it just makes it easier to activate your core since it gives you something to brace against, retard

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The equipment is not part of you. It is outside assistance. Does wearing a bench suit mean your pectorals are actually stronger? Does wearing a slingshot? They don't. They are a way to store energy outside of your muscles which you can use to assist the lift.

        Equipped lifters are still stupid strong and world class without their gear. Every person raging about gear is some weak shit gay who doesn’t compete, doesn’t post lifts showing their superior strength and is bigot reddit

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is that for Star Wars cosplay

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cheater implement
    >cheater implement
    >meme

    If you are assisting yourself with equipment you are cheating.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    you're still assisting yourself by using a barbell
    keep the mental gymnastics going though

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    knee sleeves are cheating. they reduce the load on your muscles
    belt allows you to engage the core harder. it only helps indirectly and in the squat. using them is optional
    wrist wraps are very useful to prevent wrist injuries

    I use wrist wraps for squat and also belt when I do low rep high weight

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sleeves help with preventing injuries too by keeping the joints warm and reducing inflammation.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >keeping the joints warm
        just wear tracksuit pants. many people use sleeves that do much more than just warm. they're pretty much like knee wraps.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just wear tracksuit pants. many people use sleeves that do much more than just warm. they're pretty much like knee wraps.
          No they aren't, hence why sleeves are allowed in raw powerlifting but wraps are equipped. The sleeves provide more compression than track suits too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The sleeves provide more compression
            exactly, like wraps. raw powerlifting also allows sumo deadlift and 1 inch rom bench so don't pretend that complying to arbitrary rules means shit

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Sumo isn't inherently easier than conventional retard. https://barbend.com/sumo-versus-conventional-deadlift/.
              >exactly like wraps
              No, not as much as wraps but more than a tracksuit. So better for joint health than a tracksuit.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    belt help add pressure so you can secure your back better
    knee sleeves are gay as fuck and should only be used if you've been injured otherwise you're lifting too much and buying yourself a ticket to snap city
    wrist wraps means your hands and wrists are puny
    rubber grips are mega gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What specific pathology do you think will happen from using knee sleeves? You sound like a massive retard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >t. homosexual
        you're the one with the problem gay

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When you can afford them/ justify the purchase.

    Personally got a belt and wrist wraps at like 3 plate squat, 4 plate dead.

    Sleeves at 4 plate squat.

    Nothing wrong with getting them earlier, bunch of dyels in here talking about them being cheating lol.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Belt for ego lifting
    Knee sleeves for when knee hurty
    Wrist wraps for when shloching vock

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Never
    >Never
    >Lol

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