>be in college for computer engineering
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
>have a part-time job to afford food because parents don't support me
>15 hours of additional work
>rest of my time is spent cooking meals, showing, grooming and sleeping
THERE IS NO FRICKING TIME.
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Is the workload really that bad? I’ve got a really good tech job but looking to go back to school to finish up my degree. You make it sound like I won’t be able to do my current job and also have enough time for the classes.
Are you taking a stupid amount of credit hours or something?
Specifically asking because you mentioned computer eng and that’s the degree I’m going for
Cook in bulk (im talking cooking only 5 times a month and storing it all in dozens of containers), lift first thing in the day, decrease course load.
Pretty sure all colleges treat it as the red haired middle stepchild of EE and CS so quality of educators is a problem. However, you don't have to deal with CS algo bullshit nor do you have to deal with complicated EE power and magnetics shit. If you are really driven, do what
says but if you are kinda a loser but stuborn enough to slog through then CE is a good way to go. CS is a self driven grind that I don't like.
CE gives you the rigour of a traditional engineering program and imo gives a really good foundation. I've had to interview a bunch of candidates fresh out of college and the CE grads always tend to impress me, whereas with CS its 50/50 if they are complete morons or not
at the master's/PhD level this changes because all the theoretical shit from CS starts to become useful, but CE is a solid choice for undergrad unless you are super motivated and will do a bunch of stuff outside your coursework
>algo bullshit
>power and magnetics shit
So exactly what do you learn there? To code in python?
>I’ve got a really good tech job
How’d you manage to get one?
By being a baller haha jk buddy I worked my way up from help desk support to SysAdmin to cyber security, then my career blew up (in the good way) and I’ve been working at FAANG companies ever since.
The reason no one does this route is because tech support/help desk jobs are literal hell and you start to wonder if waking up is even worth it lol. But if you power through there’s light on the other side I promise
if you have a gayMAN job, why even get the degree, sounds like an incredible waste of time, unless you want to work for the state
Pride mostly. Imagine every single person in your social circle knowing you as the college dropout, despite you making 2x or 3x what they do. I’m insecure about it and mad at myself for being such a quitter/failure back then. So I want to do it just to prove to myself that I can
More power to you and godspeed. Were I in your shoes I would not waste my time getting the degree since I would basically be at the top already, in a way.
This was my route too. I almost quit IT at the sysadmin stage after I got laid off during the Great Recession. Glad I didn’t, I’ll clear 175k this year as my first year as a security architect. Gonna try to land in FAANG next year, finishing my SANS masters now.
No OP is just moronic. I'm taking max credit hours for a comp eng degree at a decent college and it is not bad at all. No way its 50 hours/week workload. Its around 20 hours/week of lecture, maybe 10-20 of homework/studying. Ramps up towards the end of the semester obviously, but with good time management, there is tons of time.
for my engineering degree I sometimes had 36/38 hours just of lessons, the professors then expected students to study 1.5 hours at home for each hour of lesson, but obviously almost nobody did that much
I went back at 35. The workload is nothing for an adult. What really gets you is that you've been out in the world and learned a few things, and then you come back and realize just how bad everything about academia is: the professors are all some mix of stupid/tired/disinterested, the administration is absolutely earthshatteringly moronic, and the material is outdated and best. Oh, and if you went at 18 and now it's a decade+ later the price is astronomically higher.
The good news is, as an adult you'll breeze through everything. I literally stopped buying textbooks because it didn't make a difference to my grades.
Yeah I’m not quite at your power level yet but I had that same theory that college would be easy mode with a developed adult brain and solidly developed habits from working full time/managing real life. Good to hear
Universities are essentially expensive daycares
Work load is an absolute joke and most of the students get degrees with next to zero real world application
>students get degrees with next to zero real world application
Whats even worse is that students are extremely wienery and believe they can handle real world work without ever doing it in the first place
>the professors are all some mix of stupid/tired/disinterested, the administration is absolutely earthshatteringly moronic, and the material is outdated and best. Oh, and if you went at 18 and now it's a decade+ later the price is astronomically higher.
Oh yeah, even just reflecting back on my time gave me this. I had a few good lecturers but damn it was mostly shit
Graduated top 1/10 of my aero engineering class at a good school and went to class.
>charmed an asian try hard girl into giving me her material (she was 1 year ahead of me)
>had 2/3 slaves I bribed in various ways keeping me up to date with assignments
>Used anki and audio recordings of course material as much as possible
>Cheated as much as possible
>Slept 9h30 a night as one should
>Was at the gym for 10 week
>0 stress
>Multiple gfs I meat at gym, had long term relationships with the ones that cooked me chicken breasts.
>Woke up at 10AM as one should.
>Got as many exams from the years before
>Was learning maybe 7h a day tops
EZ
No reason I'm going respect a moronic system.
*never went to class
In hindsight I should've just hacked into the teacher's computers to get the Test material.
It's that bad for public school kids that have never been remotely challenged before because they went to public highschool which is essentially show up and you've got a 4.0 lol
Dude are you illiterate? Dude said he had a 50 hour workload not including his part time job, thats probably like 20 minutes to workout a day.
not really, i did my grad and my master while i worked full time (except for the exam period)
(both in electrical engineering, with spec in sw dev and advanced math)
>Is the workload really that bad?
Depends on you and your situation. Some people will only do well if they're really grinding it. Some don't need to. Everyone here has an opinion on what OP is doing wrong and they're all morons.
I decided to go back to school in my late 20's to get my EE degree and I did it in two years, three summers, taking massive amounts of credits per semester, my record being my second to last semester at seven full courses and one lab (which surprisingly was one of my better semesters at seven A's and a B+), getting loans and grants so I wouldn't have to work during this period at the cost of debt. This worked for me. I also happen to have a pretty good memory so I both hardly took notes nor had to review all that much. But not everyone is like that nor is that an indication that OP would be a good or bad engineer if he couldn't. If you're not willing to take on much/any debt, you're likely going to need to work, and working during school sucks ass and I sympathize with anyone that has to. Yes, to moronic autists, the numbers game in terms of hours works out, but in reality it doesn't, and splitting your energy and focus between two drastically different things takes a toll.
Think of it like those boxing chess matches. Yes, those dudes do in fact have time to box and do chess during the match, and guess what? They're shit at both, ESPECIALLY the chess part.
There are many ways to become and be an engineer but they all require time management and prioritizing what you can do vs. how much money you are willing to spend/lose.
>you need to know how to manage time
a whole novel post just to give the most generic answer and call everyone moronic as if this isnt what everyone does with literally anything
>moron with no reading comprehension
The point of the post was the call out people like you who don't understand there is more than one way to become an engineer, and calling out OP because he is struggling with having a job + classes is moronic when most here are NEETs, and those assuming he will be a shit engineer are equally moronic.
It'll probably blow most people's minds here that you don't even need to go to school in most jurisdictions to get a PE license, although the alternate path requires waaaay more years of experience (I think in mine it's like eight years just for the FE, then somewhere around 15 total for the PE, vs the usual eight total for school + work experience).
get a load of this nerd. Calm down a little bit you soft ass pussy, nobody gives a frick
>get a load of this nerd. Calm down a little bit you soft ass pussy, nobody gives a frick
i give a frick. he answered the question succinctly, you just don't have the nuance to make anything out of it. dumb ass 10 second attention span, cumguzzling b***h. go waste some more air you mouthbreather
THERE'S ALWAYS TIME, WAKE UP EARLY AS HELL TO GET STARTED ON YOUR DAY. RUN, DO A RANDOM AMOUNT OF PUSH UPS AND EAT A SHIT TON OF PROTEIN.
Kek stemcels are completely pathetic, nerds with money will never make you popular nor get you pussy
Better to be a nerd with money than some autist on IST with no money and no girl.
>Better to be a nerd with money than some autist on IST with no money and no girl.
those 2 are the same thing
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
you're not made for this field - low IQ
can you make it? yeah.
but as you can tell it will take hard work to keep up
>t. MSc Adv CompSci grad who graduated with minimum effort while lifting, training and socializing
I start a computer engineering degree in the fall. Please tell me there's hope.
Welcome to stem homosexuals.
When I was in my junior year of undergrad I had to time my shits so it didn't cut into sleeping time. It sucks.
But when you get out it is golden. I got the job, money, house, ect.
And it isn't like anyone can repo my degree, I'll always have it.
As someone in a mechanical engineering degree right now, it’s not as bad if you’re willing to study an hour a day on your important classes.
24 hours in a day is plenty of time if you aren’t utterly fricking about all day.
I managed to finish undergrad playing while still playing video games like 6 hours a day.
Depends more on what college you go to. If you're going to a college with a challenging stem curriculum say goodbye to quality sleep, quality food, and social life. Freshman year you might have enough free time for that but afterwards it is hell.
My sophmore-senior year I got at most 1 night per week of quality sleep and didn't have enough time to cook anything so I had to eat the shitty dining food or order doordash.
4 years of absolute hell where I trashed my health but I ended up getting a six figure salary straight out of college so it was 100% worth it.
Switch to Computer Science. You'll thank me later.
>Switch to Computer Science. You'll thank me later.
could u tell me why is CS better than engineering? For me CE seems like a fusion of Electrical engineering and practical use of software.
It's not. You'll come out of a CE degree with a much more in depth understanding of computers and programming than with a CS degree.
Thank you man for those words of wisdom.
Get summer internships EVERY year anon. Trust me, you'll want actual skills in the field. Also if you have any spare cash, put it towards an IT cert because every job asks for them even when they don't need them.
t. Cloud Architect but still needed my useless COMPTIA for some reason
It doesn't get much better, anon. I work full time and am doing my masters degree on the side because I don't want to be an eternal poorgay. That means about 60 hours of workload a week, more like 70 during exams. Aside from work, adult responsibilities and three one-hour gym sessions a week I have a whooping four to six hours of sleep a day. GF has legit been bored and mad for months and might possibly leave soon. The last time I touched a book or video game was christmas.
I know it's just for about 15 more months and then it's moneymaxxing, but I'm not sure I can make it. And I'm certain my relationships with gf, friends and family won't make it. Haven't made any gains in the last twoish years either.
>four to six hours of sleep a day
>Haven't made any gains in the last twoish years either.
this is why
Can you not squeeze in a few sets while you study? These small breaks would probably be helpful for your studies too
What kind of fricking loser makes a picture like this?
I study comp sci at a decent UK uni and I'd say my workload was about 3 hours a day, so maybe 15-20hrs a week. Are UK unis easier than other unis around the world? I hear everyone saying the workload in STEM is crazy but I haven't had that so far. Then again I'm going into my final year so maybe that's gonna be the hard one.
CS is a complete joke compared to comp eng tbf. I mean you’re talking the difference between algebra 1 and calc 3 practically speaking. During the hiring process we will often toss CS grads in favor of real engineers (including mech, chem, and EE)
>including mech, chem, and EE
I was dual majoring as CS and Chemistry. I didn't know computer engineering had affinity towards chemistry
It doesn't, but if you're smart enough to do real engineering then you're smart enough to learn computer science and by the time you have you'll be better than a CS graduate ever will be because you'll have his knowledge but a better brain.
It depends on the job but if you've got time to train someone up it's always better to go for raw intelligence over everything else. Experience or education shorten the timeline to usefulness but intelligence is what caps usefulness.
I could have also gotten a third degree in biology but chose not to do the senior seminar course to avoid giving another 15 speech on some research. Even though I technically can have 3 degrees, i still feel very stupid as a junior dev right now
When a degree is in particularly high demand uni's like to make first year workloads insane. The ones that can't take it wash out, and the ones that can get progressively easier workloads each year.
How
I currently work in software developing, 30 years old. Its 3:42 and Im about to start up Dark souls because im done for the day. Gym during lunch. Food cooked in bulk 2 days ago.
What are you doing with your life?
>cooked in bulk
disgusting, otherwise pretty based.
>disgusting
why
if you spend the actual credit hours per week on your courses then they're either under credited to save you money or you're a moron.
at the bachelor level, the first year is the heaviest course load because they are trying to fail people unfit for their selected major, past that you should have a solid foundation to wing whatever STEM field you're in with minimum effort.
if that isn't the case then realize you will forever be at a disadvantage compared to your peers in the same field, so you will need more positive traits to distinguish yourself besides productivity which you will lack.
You just need to learn how to manage your time better. I studied both CS and EE in college (so basically just a comp eng degree with more classes) and I was able to spend 2 hours each day on my hobbies. Spend less time mindless browsing the internet and you’ll be surprised at how much time is in the day.
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
lmao what a fricking dumbass
i studies CS in one of the best unis in the world (top 10, i think 7) and spent maybe 15 hours per week studying
didn’t even go to class (this was pre covid when there were no zoom lectures and shit), just read the material and showed up to exams
finished with good grades and got a job at FAANG, now making $350k
dumbass pajeet lmao @ u
Starting SWE’s at FAANG make 150k for their first 2-3 years, and 50k of that is stock options. By the time you’re making “350k”, more than half of your salary is stock options and your a principal engineer with almost a decade of experience.
i’ve been at FAANG for 5 years and got 2 extra years at a sub-FAANG company (still a big and known company), one of the 2 years i was an intern (during uni).
i’m now an engineering manager leading a small team. and yes much of it is RSUs
it also really depends on the country
gonna give some advice to my fellow engineering nerds:
1. get into a good uni. doesn’t have to be an ivy league school, but definitely go for one of the best unis in your country (or state if burger). do whatever it takes because if you’re not in a good uni you’re wasting your time. find the thing you gotta focus on to get accepted and throw yourself at it. usually there are tests and shit you gotta do, take them several times if you have to. don’t be afraid to throw money at it, even if it means taking a loan. the money you’ll make in the future is worth it. if you want to be a software engineer just do CS, doing EE, CE, or SWE is a waste of time, no one cares
2. just do OK in uni. don’t try to be the best. if you’re in a good school, top 20-30% is fine. no one really cares
3. do small side projects while in uni and put them on github. it doesn’t even have to work, it should just show “passion” towards the profession and ability to write decent code
4. get an internship while still in uni, usually the last year is the best for this. aim high but take whatever you get, it’s the experience that counts
5. once you’re done studying, apply for a job at FAANG. the interviews are hard. this is the hard part, you gotta commit to nailing these interviews, study hard, take a month or two to study (there are books for this), it’s gonna be worth it. apply to several FAANG companies and have them fight over you
6. just coast through your new job, as long as you’re not moronic you will get promoted after 2 years, at which point you’re already making good money
7. do whatever the frick you want, you got FAANG on your resume so you can do whatever
>i fell for the law meme
stem gays have it so fricking easy i swear
you have to study for interviews where they ask you fricking fizzbuzz garbage
i passed the fricking bar, 3 years of law school after undergrad, and i dont even make 100k.
i was at a T25 for the scholarships I got because i didn't want the goydebt so at least i'm debt free
>fell for the law school meme
Lmao. You did that to yourself. All you had to do was computer science or an engineering field for your major and you would’ve been making around $100k without having to go get a masters or doctorate.
>Uni used to be decent for CS (top 20 I think)
>Covid hits and the uni doesn't know how to adjust
>The quality teachers leave and rapes the leaderboards rankings (dropped like 20 uni's in the last 3 years)
Is there any way to salvage this? I'm in the last year and easily gonna get a first but I feel like my prospects are completely fricked now
Over unfortunately
people really just recreated rage comics with wojaks and whatever the Yes guys are called...
you wasting too much time on your degree
you are not made to be best student in this field, those usually dont put that much time in studying
it only will cause you problems to continue like that
even if you make it to the top degreewise, you wont be qualified for the jobs that require a good degree in this field, probably you will fail in the recruitment process where they filter out by selfmade tests
-> dont study that much, u arent made for this field and maybe even not intelligent enough, if you were, you would see where you stand compared to other students
>you are not made to be best student in this field, those usually dont put that much time in studying
this cant be overstated enough. you are going against iq 140 dudes and you will never ever be able to outcompete them. and they invest maybe a couple hours 1 week before the exam. the end.
>studying 50 hours per week
lmao @ brainlets
i have achieved nothing in life, of course, but i thank god every day that i've never run into an intellectual challenge that i didn't effortlessly skullfrick in an instant.
i wouldn't give up my brain for the world.
>achieved nothing
>wouldn’t give up his brain
???
you realize that achieving things is a quintessentially quality of someone’s brain?
>never failed an intellectual challenge
hard to fail something that you don’t even attempt?
let me give you a random ass challenge: place top 10 in a recognized competitive coding challenge. 100% intellectual task, good luck
Will be a humbling experience to see what levels of brilliance some of these people’s brains can actually reach
hey no need to feel insecure just because there are people who are smarter than you anon.
Of course not. It’s just important that you realize how mediocre you are compared to actually talented / driven people and never go down the road where you boast about yourself without having anything to back it up with
>actually talented / driven people
Kek imanige being proud of literal slaves. Those wage slaving, hustling type losers are just ugly nerds
>literal slaves
You dont have to work. You can just live like a bum and pretend you are a winner
>I'm so intellectual that I brag about it despite having nothing to show for it
Dunning Kruger exhibit A
At least you succeeded in making me laugh out loud dude
imagine being in your 20s or early 30s and thinking theres no time
i wish i didnt waste so much energy in my 20s worry that i was "too late" as if theres some magic age number that defined my entire life
>he fell for the STEM meme
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE BOYS
i honestly feel bad for anyone who fell for the
>you dont need school for a good job meme
they do have more free time but at the same time they cant afford shit
I've been there brother. Research and writing my master's thesis in computer engineering is the busiest I've ever been with one thing. Now in my career I work a lot fewer hours and make pretty good money. Make sure you do internships whenever you can. It basically lets you pause school and work a comfy tech job for a few months to save money. Big companies like mine are always looking for students to hire because of tax incentives.
I quit law school right before finishing it, became definitely happier, started learning the thing I enjoy, got a job strongly related to that thing and it's really a relief. I just regret wasting 5 years (EU system) forcing myself to learn shit I hate in the environment that's absolutely not my fit. Got my nerves completely shattered for nothing, but yeah, it's mostly my fault, can't blame the world for that.
in hindsight i am embarrassed by this post even though it is substantially true.
>computer engineering
anon no, quit now and take up a trade. you'll thank me.
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
damn i thought you guys didn't have to break a sweat to make good money. guess it's the same as anywhere else after all.
its quite crazy when you post something real and how all the incels come out to talk about some fantasy to discredit reality
>study computer science at actual university not a fricking college
>top grades
>work 10-20h week at research institute
>workout 6 times a week
>party every weekend
>practice piano and other hobbies
>cook every meal myself
>watch bunch of movies/tvshows
>play way too much vidya
What the frick are you people doing with your time?
it really depends on the courses you are taking. My first 3 years were like this. Senior year I had lots of projects which took up a great deal of time but wasnt complex. Work took up a great deal of time too. Along with that I had job interviews and prepare for speeches. Oh and my dog died, grandpa died, and spent time with uncle who was diagnosed with alzheimers. Things got real dark in my senior year, the busiest year of my life.
Enjoy this time while you can, reality sucks when it hits you with some dark shit
I just finished my bachelors degree. In the end I also had to do projects and wrote a completely over the top thesis. I still had plenty of time. Prepared a 45 presentation of my thesis in around 3-4 hours that I got a perfect grade for.
Not trying to be mean but maybe you need to accept that some people just do this shit in a fraction of your time
>Not trying to be mean but maybe
That passive aggressiveness with the subtle condescending remark makes it sound like you WANT to feel better for some odd reason. Work on your insecurity a bit and realize some people's lives are busier for a reason and not because you are smarter.
Maybe I should have mentioned i dual majored in CS and chemistry along with taking on the entire biology program just in case i wanted to switch but didnt. But I didnt feel the need to type this out cause I thought maybe you wouldnt be so insecure
I minored in physics and astrophysics. Yes some people are just smarter. That is what I am saying and what you are refusing to accept.
I know plenty of people who act like university takes up all their time. They are either moronic or don't know how to study/inflate their study time
>Yes some people are just smarter
>Refusing to accept
I dont think you get it. Im not saying people learn at different rates, I am saying there are other shit going on in peoples lives that cause distractions. How did you not get what I implied after I told you about deaths in the family?
The funny thing is you are the one assuming your life is the only one with shit going on. Everybody constantly deals with things you have no clue about. But you are the one complaining that studying and working part time takes up your entire schedule. The truth is people like you usually just don't know how to schedule their lives, study effectively or optimize their day
>The truth is people like you usually just don't know how to schedule their lives
>You are assuming
>I dont get why people dont have free time
Your entire post is so ironic I HAVE to assume you are trolling me at this point. I really dont understand you anymore. If you want to believe you are the busiest man on earth with loads of free time, go ahead. I dont get what you get out of this to project yourself onto others but okay
>How did you not get what I implied after I told you about deaths in the family?
anon its cause he is actually too stupid to understand this concept about life despite believing he is smarter than everyone. its like a fatty not understanding being fat is unhealthy
Im just going to assume he is trolling. He answers his own questions but still can't figure it out so I can't reply to his posts anymore
He's working you fricking sperg
>>work 10-20h week at research institute
Maybe you should go back to elementary school and work on your reading comprehension bucko
10-20h is barely work
It's a part time job, just like OP is whining about. I have no clue what you are arguing here.
Eh, I never rly struggled with it. I ended up just finding a part time job that gave me nursing hours (IE two double shifts on the weekends). This basically clears the rest of my week to focus on schooling, lifting, making music, fricking with friends, etc. Still though, it's a frickton of time tbh. I have no clue what moron boomer said college students had all time and no money. I don't have either lmao. Once I start my career next summer tho (internship basically guaranteed me a salaried position) I'll have a lot more free time ironically. Cut my 80 hour work week into a 50 hour one. Plus more money so better time efficiency. Living the life baby.
ehhhh, first year of any job is the busiest. But the time you spend on work cuts down. If you dont have a gf, you will have the time you expect. If you do, say goodbye to doing things you want to do. You might have 1 hour each day for yourself
I'm going monkmode for now after multiple back to back toxic relationships. Don't plan to date for at least another year while I work on myself. Feel like I'm carrying too much baggage to have anything long term successful rn unfortunately.
Thats fair. Keep pushing forward, you are looking at a bright future
Anons here not addressing that university as an institution is designed to give you the little cop in your head that makes you work 50 hours for a psychopathic corporation after working 50 hours to get an 4.0 GPA.
Being lazy is rebellion anon.
You had time to post this gay thread didn't you?
>study applied mathematics
>All the lecturers know you're not morons who need to be spoonfed so they don't bother giving you mandatory assignments after the 1st or 2nd year
>They also don't care if you show up to lectures or not since they know that we're all smart enough to learn it on our own anyways
>Programming is a large part of the degree, but without all the useless bullshit
>Employers think you're a hardcore genius compared to all the other codemonkeys since you studied math so they automatically give you preferential treatment and let you have more freedom and autonomy since they automatically assume you're smarter than them
>Learning anything stem-related is easy as shit since you already know all the math, you're just learning special cases of shit you already know
>Since you studied applied math and not pure math you can easily sell yourself as a data scientist, machine learning developer, statistician, general analyst/modeller/problem solver / in-house wizard etc.
Why didn't you just pick the easy route
It can get way worse anon, I am not trying to make less from your situations cause it is difficult I’ve been there. There will be an end to it and it will all pay off. Be thankful for what you have and keep struggling, that’s all we can do in situations like that.
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
lmao bull shit
I'm a brainlet that breezed through highschool and never developed a consistent work ethic and have been getting fricked by exams since I begin studying 2 days before the exam.
How do I fix it?
git gud. you should be studying strictly the night before. real answer is that you need good study habits, but frankly you can get by in life by cramming.
>STEM
>lifetime of misery
Many such cases. Sad.
>thinks the gender gap is acceptable
>more comfortable around men
>doesn't recognize the difference between sex and gender
Yeah I'm thinking the virgin is the real chad here
Lol 500 students is first year science shit.
Only way to get your professors attention in a class like that is to be the pretentious homosexual that orbits the prof after class and asks pointless/trivial questions during lectures, and in that case the prof smells the BS and only knows them because he secretly hates their guts.
Saw many such cases of these guys in my uni days.
Later in programs, classes are much smaller and your profs notice you even if you're quiet.
The guy who made this infographic is a low IQ doofus who got a shit degree and is now jealous of the earning potential STEM guys have.
I studied both unironically happy.,
how did you manage to pay for both? and why did you do it in the first place? asking because i'd like to go back to uni someday, just pick anything i like
>how did you manage to pay for both?
Probably by not being american
I've done both and stem doesn't even compare to the mountains of boring essays and lit reviews you have to write in humanities.
Good to see a classic meme, brings me back to 2017
>that image
All I've wanted my entire life is the top part. I'm starting to become extremely resentful of the many people I see everyday like that. I'm doing my best not to as it's obviously wrong, moronic, and counterproductive as it will inevitability show on my face, but I can't stop it. I just want bros to hang out with semi regularly and get ice cream. My entire life has been a downward spiral of only trying to get this one goal and failing. I just want to be happy.
same. Everyone is busy with their lives, and hanging out with their peers. Everytime when I message them they just give very late replies. I started to believe I'm just a social loser. So at this point I stopped caring about them. There is only me and my surroundings. let's see how many days it goes like this.
if you really need so much time you might reconsider your path. just saying
I felt for the stem meme too. I've studied and can't get a job related to my degree. My last job was a salesman position where i made 30-50$ a month. I wish i had studied medicine.
Tech bros is the money worth it? Not trying to take one side or the other. I did pretty well in school and was making a lot of money at one point (law) but found that lifestyle to be rather grim. I at least got to frick around in undergrad.
Tech is such a wide field with hundreds of different careers no one can accurately answer your question. You need to figure out a better question first
Not really, curious to hear from any type of tech guy. Have zero experience being around this kind of person
Computer science. Can't speak on money because not out of school yet but classes are easy and have enough time to workout 4-5 hours a day, cook meals, keep my apartment clean, and game a couple hours. And that's just weekdays. Obviously not everyone will have same experience but I already have internship with potential to be hired full time afterwards.
If you know how to develop a full stack application using different IDEs for both frontend and backend, you can work in any tech company.
The real challenge is learning on the go. You soon realize you dont have enough time during the 9-5 hours to do everything AND learn something new to apply it to current project. But there are also weeks where its easy going, you are just doing work with the knowledge you already know. But the money is good and you work from home
Im studying Computer Information Technology which is a degree you can still be a software dev or programmer with and I picked it specifically because it sounded like the easiest way to get a tech job and still have time for gains and socialmaxxing. We'll see how it goes.
>want to have it easy in school
>thinks they will get a job
All the students who did basically 0 work and copy pasted code did not get a job because these are the same students who couldnt pass an interview. And even if they did manage to somehow get a job, they would be screwed since they don't know how to even debug. Regret will set it wishing they had learned more so that they would be comfortable in the real world.
If you are having an easy time because you cheated, good luck in the world.
If you are having an easy time because you actually practiced, then you will be mentally ready to handle real world challenges
I never said I planned on cheating. Im gonna learn how to program and shit lol but it's comparatively easier tha CE and even CS but the only difference is some math Im told between my degree and CS
well shit. maybe I can switch to CS or get a masters but i'm not sure yet. worst case scenario 50k is liveable with good benifits and it's got good growth.
Oh you’re more likely to get an entry level IT job than a software job with that degree just fyi. Essentially the hierarchy goes
Computer engineering >>>> CS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “information systems” degrees
Not trying to be a douche or exaggerate but this is reality for recruiters. It’s not even considered a bachelor of science at that point it’s a BA with no hard technical skills required to graduate
i got degree in information sciences, not sure where this lands, but i got a software dev job with this degree. this company hired only 1 person out of a pool of hundreds of other students and anyone else who applied if that means anything
If my actual degree program is "Computing" with a concentration in Computer Science (my school doesn't have a strict CS degree but I've had to take all the normal CS classes i.e. Data Structures, Algorithms, Operating Systems, Assembly Language, etc.), should I just lie and put that my degree is CS on resumes? I asked the career services department at my school and they were of course like "no that makes no difference, anybody looking at your resume will understand what computing is :)" but I'm skeptical.
You want to try and get into computer science not information technology. Everyone I know that went into information technology could only get entry level IT jobs or consulting programming jobs and those are absolute hell with no work-life balance and poor pay.
School is pretty moronic in general. No idea why people still go for comp science, and don't just teach themselves.
Can someone blackpill me on Cybersecurity? I'm thinking about going into it with no experience.
the blackpill is that you won't get into it without sitting through like 10 years of menial help desk-type shit while you rise the ranks
they don't hire fresh grads or someone with just a couple certs to do cybersecurity work
The blackpill is that you'll be securing massive evil mega corps from various threat actors
The whitepill is that you don't have to do that part if you know what I mean
Where do you get the time to waste it on IST?
>parents don't support me
Which is their prerogative. You're a grown man. Stop whining like a b***h.
How much do you fricking sleep man? I work 42.5 hours a week, have a 30 hour a week study load for my masters degree, workout every day and still have the entirety of Sunday to myself.
>slave away the best years of your life for a career you don’t want just to have a slightly higher income so you can buy more things to impress people who don’t care/you don’t like
Why do western men do this?
As opposed to what?
It's fed to us from childhood, it's hard to snap out of it.
I went to school for ECE too, worked 9pm to 4am 4 days per week and still still lifted and even had time to see friends once in awhile. Oh, and I got all B+ and As, and hsd time for student group activities for bonus project work(helps you get a job).
Now I'm 26 and have a fiance, house, and work 10hrs/day and still lift too.
Youre just weak and probably ngmi since you choose to complain about having to work hard. Youre not special.
God I fricking hate college kids.
Nice larp incel
How are you not burned out after a week?
unironicaly start smoking, itll be easy to lose weight if thats what ur after and it will make it easier to focus on shit
Going into CE at top uni in my country (one of top in the world) this autumn. Anyone have any suggestions for where to learn git, bash, java, etc. to pad my resume. Also, if anyone else has done ECE, I wonder how the job prospects are compared to CS. Here, CS was much more difficult to get into. Even with an extremely high average I got into CE but not CS.
I think CE is geared towards embedded systems type jobs where CS is more high level stuff
(Higher level as in its more abstracted from the hardware)
CE is embedded systems, you aren't going to learn Java. Bust your ass studying for the first semester and transfrer to CS.
i did 3 classes at a time. it cost me 1.5 extra years but w.e i worked full time to. electrical engi with b to b+
Serves you right for choosing a meme degree
You need new study habits bro. I was double majoring Chemistry/Biochemistry with a math minor.
My senior year was P chem, advanced inorganic chem, Analytical chem, the labs were 4 hours long and intensive. Differential equations, some gay ass electives, and credited research with a professor.
There is always time, but you need to use your time efficiently. Take notes in class, then after class condense the notes in another notebook that you look over daily. Reading these condense notes shouldn't take more than 5 minutes.
Homework should always be done, and if you spend 10 minutes and have no clue where to start, get help. There are people in your university who can help you, whether it be professors, other students, or the internet. Stop wasting your time, 50 hours per week means you're doing over 7 hours of school work a day, and I assume this does not include lectures. That is absurd and unnecessary. Reading a chapter in a textbook should take around 1 hour max, with useful notes, not writing everything down. If it takes you longer, then you're making mistakes.
I ruined the curve for everyone else in Physical chemistry, Organic chemistry, calculus 3, the other classes didn't involve a curve.
Work smart bro and use your resources. I remember almost everything I learned in school, but so far it only applied to the MCAT and nothing else. I studied for it for a little over a month and got 85th percentile, if I take it again I'll probably study the psychology part instead of ignoring it and get over 90th.
Get some confidence and stop wasting your time
Op: drop computer engineering and switch to computer science. Or better yet information systems in the school of business. You trade calculus 2 for marketing 101 type of classes which is way easier and more interesting.
I made the switch 1/2way through sophomore year, no regrets.
I also worked an internship 1.5 years, lifted, partied hard, played rugby, and still made the Deans list a few times, mostly getting As and Bs. There also was a financial technology degree if IS doesn’t exist. This was a giant public university on east coast.
College is meant to be fun. Make the switch and live it up. Nobody cares about your degree or major after your first job
Yet there's time enough to post here?
The workload should not be that high unless you're over 18 credit hours per week or a brainlet.
t. Recent computer eng grad
Engineering school is just remembering a process to do things and that it isn't difficult unless you make it difficult
I'm studying CS degree and also have a part-time job as a programmer in big company and I can still exercise even everyday if I want to and I even manage to cook for myself. How can you not fit in getting fit? I just do it early in the morning as soon as gym opens. Great way to start the day.
Excuses. Some people will find excuses in every situation. When I had 8 am classes I used to wake up at 6 and immediately run out the door to the gym. There is a certain mindset you need in life to make. To realize that things never fall into your lap or work out themselves. That every day is overcoming some obstacle. Some desire to let go and fail. And ironically once you understand this mindset of telling the part of your brain that is trying to stop you to stfu things suddenly become easy. When you stop worrying about how and why and just fricking do whatever needs to be done. You realize there is really nothing in the way except those imaginary walls you put up around yourself
>parents don't support me
Like we might as well just kill ourselves brah. Every former class mate in my generation who has graduated and is married with kids and lives a normal happy life is because they're parents wanted it so and did everything to make it happen
>still falling for the STEMcel meme
The government is giving us autism so you can build missiles for Israel without having the distractions of a normal social life.
I finished most of a mechanical engineering degree before realizing that putting my creativity and intelligence into projects that weren't my own wasn't satisfying. Now I'm free to design stuff on my own terms and not get burned out helping Shlomo kill Palestinians
Bro that's so profound man. Did your shaman tell you this at burning man?
Shalom rabbi!
yup. thats why i'm getting my license. i want to make toys or hand prosthetics. i dont want to support the war machine.
this is me btw lol
I personally failed at life. I went back to a community college got the associate and transferred to a 4 year for the last 2. got b to b+ grades so slim pickings. got my first "engineer" job fixing antennas I was more of a technician than an EE job. worked there for 3 years took the FE and passed, intent on taking the test for my license. got a decent 75k with Raytheon job now im 34. If you read this know that its going to be hard but its doable. i worked full time and took 3 classes with mini semesters on the side. good luck to all.
>50 hours per week workload to stay on top
How? I am a industrial engineering major at a uni where they throw 10-14 exams at me every semester and even i dont have a workload anywhere near that. I am also not smart either so i really dont understand how your workload can be so high. Is it possible that youre a 1st semester? Because unless youre trying to memorise everything your professors tell you, you shouldnt have such a massive workload
I just graduated last year in CE and only put in like 20 hours a week at my peak. Went to a shitty state college.. U got israeliteel into going to a good one, we end up getting the same job. Doesn't matter qere u go no one is gonna hire u if u don't got internship experience btw. I mogg ivy league school engineers by being picked for the job over them..
>Doesn't matter qere u go no one is gonna hire u if u don't got internship experience btw.
Patently not true