Becoming above-average is getting harder every year

>average guys are taking up ISTness
>average guy is now in university getting a valuable education (STEM, medicine, business, law)
>average guy is into fashion, skin-care, grooming etc.
>average guy constantly looking for new productive habits and routines
>average guy is improving expontentially each year raising the bar endlessly
I cannot cope with this. Am a guy with average genetics who thought could raise himself through work but everyone is working hard.

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    boo hoo

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Brutal blackpill

      Ok cool, more fit people is a good thing, i wish everyone was in good shape and healty.

      you spent too much time on social media. it's good to do what you listed but no way the average male does it all and fewer even follow through

      Okay, if it makes you so insecure then maybe you’re not working hard enough or maybe you are below average and that you should give up that’s CLEARLY your only option OP you have to give up because other people around you are also working hard to get fit and get a good paying job with a good education (just like you right?) that means you need to give up and stop trying anymore because you’re “just an average guy” and CLEARLY can’t compete so just give up maybe have a nice day

      Lol Dude no. Go out in the real world for just one day and you'll see you're being silly

      Literally touch grass

      cope. women hate you by your genetics

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day lookism gay. You're never gonna make it, you're an eternal, pathetic loser. Leave this board at once

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >women hate you by your genetics
        >women
        Something you'll never be

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          - a_(IST) animated buff clothes dragon_ball ear gigachud glasses hair hand open_mouth pol_(IST) punch smile smug basedjak swastika chud variant_bernd variant_chudjak.gif

          what the fuck is wrong with you?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            The chud abhors organization.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              The bar for 'chud' has sunk to 'thinking my filenames are weird', I see. Really well-adjusted feller you are

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dilate

      • 4 months ago
        Giddy

        Ok, i still wish everyone was fit

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Women don't hate anyone because of their genetis, they only hate YOU. They hate you because you're a scumbag piece of shit who should do yourself and us all a favour and just end it.

  2. 4 months ago
    Giddy

    Ok cool, more fit people is a good thing, i wish everyone was in good shape and healty.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you spent too much time on social media. it's good to do what you listed but no way the average male does it all and fewer even follow through

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, if it makes you so insecure then maybe you’re not working hard enough or maybe you are below average and that you should give up that’s CLEARLY your only option OP you have to give up because other people around you are also working hard to get fit and get a good paying job with a good education (just like you right?) that means you need to give up and stop trying anymore because you’re “just an average guy” and CLEARLY can’t compete so just give up maybe have a nice day

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not true. The obesity epidemic gets worse each year and it is projected that by 2030, over half of all americans will be obese.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am Europe (Germany) and here it is predicted that obesity declines over the next years because of a ISTness BOOM and better eating awareness.

      Lol Dude no. Go out in the real world for just one day and you'll see you're being silly

      >go outside
      >young men 16-30 are tall, thin or athletic, look put together
      >more male university students than ever in history
      Yeah, what now?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't worry, most people in German will freeze to death anyway and the rest gets raped by turks during civil unrest so you don't have to worry about these trivial things

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >will freeze to death anyway

          >believing this meme

          jfl

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Then be glad your race and nation is improving. All ye need to do now is stop being cucked on the topic of immigration and start getting back to where ye left off

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol Dude no. Go out in the real world for just one day and you'll see you're being silly

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally touch grass

      It's very location dependent I think. In a college town, OPs observations are very much correct. You will be baffled at the 70% overweight+obese statistic because it is not reflected in such a locale. If you're also a pseudo hermit like many people are on here, your main interactions are going to be people in college and people at the gym. That's a far superior portion of men than Walmartians in Louisiana for example.

      It's almost like two completely different species of humans have emerged. The IST, educated, and well groomed people vs the obesity statistic, paycheck to paycheck lifestyle goycattle. I wouldn't even bother comparing myself to the latter average anymore than I'd flex my money against a third worlder.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't this the problem most "average" guys have in these college town bubbles? If you are 5'10" making 80K a year you will struggle to get a girlfriend if you are only surrounded by 6'1" dudes pulling 100K+.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally touch grass

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Average guy used to work mines or factory jobs, it's a lot fucking easier today you dumb fuck

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe if you spent more time focusing on yourself rather than coping over what other people do you'd actually get somewhere.

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    guy is now in university getting a valuable education (STEM, medicine, business, law)
    wrong. Less men are in universities now than ever before
    the average guy doesn't leave the house

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Here in Germany there are more than ever been in History and the number keeps increasing big time.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am Europe (Germany) and here it is predicted that obesity declines over the next years because of a ISTness BOOM and better eating awareness.
        [...]
        >go outside
        >young men 16-30 are tall, thin or athletic, look put together
        >more male university students than ever in history
        Yeah, what now?

        Guess the future is bright for germany. 4th reich when?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >german
        >whiny bitch
        Who would have guessed?

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    what? where the fuck do you live

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're only looking at people better than you and assuming that they're the average.
    For example I feel short despite being 5'11, but that's because I only notice people taller than me.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cope. I am 5'10" and only notice people taller because average height here is 6ft and I am a manlet.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anthony cumia is looking good

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Typisch deutsch. Erstmal rumjammern wenn es nen positiven Trend gibt lol

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the hell are you talking about OP? Did you even had a look at the people around you?

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do you know what AVERAGE means you fucking retard? Besides, even if what you said was true, boofuckinghooooo
    >Oh nooo life is soo haaard 🙁
    gay!

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesse is not natty though

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    this is very untrue. maybe more people know about these things but hard work and perseverance will ALWAYS be lacking in the average person. with modern day entertainment and time wasting methods it's even rarer. i think you're confusing social media and people bragging about how they " totally do BJJ and read Atomic Habits and take Udemy courses bro" but how many are actually sticking with it?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >totally do BJJ and read Atomic Habits and take Udemy courses bro
      You fell for a pretentious minority. The average guy studies hard in university for engineering, math or computer science instead of a meme udemy course, goes to the gym or does group sports and reads classic literature because they know self-help is crap.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's easy to think that the average guy is like that if you have nk social life

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I go to University and all my friends are putting in the work in all facets of life.

          But let's take a look at something that is easily visible and judged -- physique. How many average guys do you see that have truly nice physiques or even non-DYEL physiques? Even among guys who go to the gym, they don't look all that impressive even shirtless. A year or two of really dedicated lifting and you can look better than the average young guy. I'm assuming it's like that for all other facets of life as well

          Picrelated is how the average guy looks like, yeah, it's not noticable in shirts, that's part of being natural.
          >2 years
          Most skills including ISTness take 5-10 years to fully master. Being average is hard work nowadays. How many people do you think are studying maths and programming in their free time or starting a business or side hustle? Almost everyone.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fucking delusional
            Average western men are getting FATTER and weaker with each year. You are just looking for the fit guys because you are probably a homo

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Average western men are getting FATTER and weaker with each year
              Only in America you retard. Europe is REVERSING this trend, people are getting fitter here.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Everyone is getting fatter worldwide even in asian now people are getting fatties

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >picrelated is how the average guy looks
            holy fucking delusion what is wrong with you
            the average guy is skinnyfat, go to any university and you will see this

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >'almost everyone' is studying maths and programming, starting a business, or doing a side hustle in their free time
            How have you crafted this reality in your head? Are you a legitimate schizophrenic?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nah he's a fucking relentless doomposting fuckface that makes 20 threads an hour trying to demoralise and put people off the path of self-improvement.
              Needs to fuck off back to /LULZ/ or whatever chud discord he hails from or, better yet, slit his fucking wrists and do us all a favour. Fucking loser this guy.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Picrelated is how the average guy looks like
            The average guy in a gym, who is at least a standard deviation better looking in terms of physique than the general population, does not look remotely like that, let alone the average person in the total population.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >totally do BJJ and read Atomic Habits and take Udemy courses bro
            You fell for a pretentious minority. The average guy studies hard in university for engineering, math or computer science instead of a meme udemy course, goes to the gym or does group sports and reads classic literature because they know self-help is crap.

            >Average western men are getting FATTER and weaker with each year
            Only in America you retard. Europe is REVERSING this trend, people are getting fitter here.

            You are legitimately retarded if you think this. The reality is actually the opposite. Did you know that 15% of the population (actually even more for men) are below 85 IQ which basically makes them unemployable? That's 15 fucking percent, every 6th person. I'm guessing you're upper middle class and going to Uni so you're comparing yourself with people you see there but what you don't see is the average 18 year old brainlet who reads on a 5th grade level.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >it's not noticable in shirts, that's part of being natural.
            Found the low test dyel twink

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        But let's take a look at something that is easily visible and judged -- physique. How many average guys do you see that have truly nice physiques or even non-DYEL physiques? Even among guys who go to the gym, they don't look all that impressive even shirtless. A year or two of really dedicated lifting and you can look better than the average young guy. I'm assuming it's like that for all other facets of life as well

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao wrong
        The average guy is an idiot who wasted countless hours a day in social media. Normies spend more time drinking alcohol and smoking weed than reading important news
        You should go outside for once and talk to people

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The average guy studies hard in university for engineering, math or computer science
        Do you know what "average" means?

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >average guys are taking up fitness
    not true
    >average guy is now in university
    less than half the population between 18-24 in the US goes to college at all let alone doing fucking STEM or medicine or something
    >average guy is into fashion, skin-care, etc
    impossible to think this if you go outside
    >average guy is constantly looking for new productive habits and routines
    again, you would know this isn't true if you went outside
    >average guy is improving exponentially each year raising the bar endlessly
    you don't know what exponentially means and you are wrong either way
    go lift weights you fucking PUSSY

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are the average guys in the room with you right now?
    Honestly, if losers like you just offed yourself, world would be so much better. Nobody would miss you. You guys are so fucking tiresome with your constant whining about shit. Quit acting like a bunch of women. Either grow up or perish.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the male self improvement market is a meme and is exactly no different than cosmetics for females. scrolling through social media the whole internet gym / self improvement community is just a bunch of 1%ers selling hope to everyone else. i am not saying don't try to be the best version of yourself, but accept your limitations. yeah there is probably a lot of average guys with bigger hopesn than there used to be but only a small number actually make it anywhere near their goal, because their idea of their goal is not realistic as its based off a 1%er. if you went outside for once in your life you would actually see how average the average person is. if you sleep 7 hours a night, work out three times a week, eat vegetables every second meal, restrict junk food to once a week, and work 40 hours a week, you are doing better than 90% of the population straight off by being an actual functioning person.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >if you sleep 7 hours a night, work out three times a week, eat vegetables every second meal, restrict junk food to once a week, and work 40 hours a week, you are doing better than 90% of the population straight off by being an actual functioning person
      Holy fuck that is delusional. These things do not even make you average, it's the baseline for being recognized as a person. Average person is working or studying HARD to advance their career, reads tons of books, cooks, socializes and networks, meditates daily, try to keep up with politics, finances, family and still has various hobbies and interests like drawing, learning a new language, doing social media marketing etc.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Absurd bait
        You should add "average guy is 6'6 and 275 lbs 15% bodyfat has an IQ of 159"

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          not gonna get baited. just off yourself my man.

          >bait
          Yeah, have fun staying below-average by coping and laying back doing the bare mininum. The fact that you guys think it's demoralization is laughable. Just look at the following Elon Musk has. They are working 80 hours a week to keep up with all the self-improvement hype modern social media generates.
          I put in 60 hours a week in University and I am barely keeping up with the top students.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are either trying to demoralize people or you genuinely believe this stuff. I don't know which option is sadder.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >average guy
            >top students
            which is it gay? you said the average guy is like this but now you're saying top students.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Top student means to be above-average which I am trying to be, that's the whole point of the thread but since the average guy also studies a lot it's hard to keep up.
              I have to be a millionaire by 30 or I am barely middle-class anymore. Average salary is 100K a year.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >average salary is 100k a year
                A little tip: When you start saying things that are verifiably, empirically false it's too obvious that you're trolling.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can see that you're not here for an honest discussion, you're here to prance around in your underwear and have other people tell you you're doing fine and it will all be okay. And you know what fuck you OP, waste of time, waste of space, waste of bandwidth and waste of everything your parents gave you. Sage.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            People follow elite athletes too. Doesn't mean the average guy is training 6 hours a day
            Seriously, go outside and talk to guys in the 20-35 age range. Normies are more into fortnite and weed than anything else

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >"I out in 60 hours and barely make!"
            >"Everyone I meet is better looking and fitter than me!"
            Anon...I got some bad news for you. I think you just might be a bottom of the pile, ugly, fat, retard.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        not gonna get baited. just off yourself my man.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are just wrong. There's nothing more to it. You are incorrect. Sorry. Literally every identifiable claim in your post is wrong.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The average male is the dude handing you your McDonald's, in debt because of school and doesn't have a job in his field

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Average salary in the unit states is like 45k. Average software engineer salary is over 100k. Literally 90% of men are overweight or obese, and 8% are skinnyfat DYELs. If you make 100k a year and lift you will still stand out like a girl with big tits and small nipples. You sound like a pussy though, so KYS

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      And yet software engineers who make a top 90% income and work out are virgins and struggle to get a girlfriend. Why?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because women care about more than just money dumbfuck

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I feel like men have forgotten the 80s/90s movie trope of even the ugliest man can get the hot woman if he makes her laugh. Have a personality, be goofy, project that you love life. If you act like a miserable ISTner why would anyone want to be around you

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can get away with being an asshole if you're good looking. I'm a 6.5/10 at best and girls tell me they like me because I never smile and bully others

            The whole "BE HAPPY ALL THE TIME SMILE LAUGH BE FRIENDLY TO EVERYONE FOR NO REASON :DDDDD" thing is just shitty brainwashing forced by anglo industrialists to sell products

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm a 6.5/10 at best and girls tell me they like me because I never smile and bully others
              That's bullshit but I'll believe you

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you will still stand out like a girl with big tits and small nipples
      Yeah and if you are only 5'8" you will still not be able to get a girl :/

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile I am a fat retard who does a minimum wage job, I have pimples, wear walmart tshirts and shorts exclusively, spend my time playing video games and fucking around with electronics.
    Women hate tryhards anyway. Be chill like me

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    just settle for a fat bitch & a min wage job then i guess

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The average guy in the West is not that good, right? Man, I have been isolated for so long that I cannot tell apart what is fake and what is real on this board anymore.
    Please bros tell me what the average dude is really doing outside of this hellhole.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro...fucking go outside. Just go outside for God's sake. BEING FAT is average now
      Stop using social media and IST, THEY ARE NOT the real world. It's terrible for your brain

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fishing for pity like this is even more pathetic than what OP is doing

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The average guy watches porn and masturbates. If I don't watch porn and never masturbate then doesn't this already make me a bit above-average?

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    ? We're living in an obesity crisis. People have never been more out-of-shape in human history.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile in real world obesity and poverty rate is skyrocketing
    Life is not your Instagram feed you delusional beta gay

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, this absolutely is not true. What's happening is that the few people with motivation and a desire to look good are now better at it because it's easier to access the right resources, nutrition, and equipment. The rest of the population is getting fatter and lazier. Look at a photo of men from anywhere up to the 1970s. A far greater proportion were in good shape (in b4 "they were dyels" from the usual chud's), due to manual labour and better diets.

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >average guys are taking up ISTness
    No they aren't. People are more obese than ever. You are suffering from selection bias from watching that retards content too much, specifically the one where he asks girls about their preferences
    >average guy is now in university getting a valuable education (STEM, medicine, business, law)
    Men are dropping out of university like crazy. You have no clue how wrong you are
    >average guy is into fashion, skin-care, grooming etc.
    Maybe, but the average guy is still a fat slob or a skinnyfat weakling. It's very easy to be above average looks and strength wise if you have the proper mindset and actually lift regularly (which you probably don't because you're a tourist from /LULZ/ trying to demoralize people)
    >average guy constantly looking for new productive habits and routines
    Wrong. Men play video games and consoom like never before
    >average guy is improving expontentially each year raising the bar endlessly
    No he isn't

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to be competent all around, you’re right that gym alone and a good bod isn’t enough to guarantee a decent woman anymore. Having a decent job, a car, a place to live, fashion, humor, emotional intelligence, etc. all matters too.

    All you can do is work hard (and smart) and hope for the best. If all the men around me become disciplined ubermensch that are learning a second or third language and getting interesting hobbies while being jacked, then I’ll be glad that my country is becoming better and I’ll have more people to look up to and respect.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I’ll be glad that my country is becoming better and I’ll have more people to look up to and respect
      You'll also be an incel because women only choose the best and die alone and unloved.

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