Benzos With Alcohol

I'm starting this thread once again. Neither of these things are healthy for your brain, even though there are people out there who get prescribe ludicrously large amounts of benzos legally by physicians, but alcohol is one nasty drug. Benzos just happen to help you get several times more drunk from consuming the same amount. Alcohol, not benzos, is literally fricking neurotoxic. It fricking kills your white matter, which is the connections between your neurons. Even drinking a single beer will kill a few of these axons, despite the fact you're not getting drunk.

Now, I don't know how the synergy between alcohol and benzos work, but if you've had between two to four conazepams (4 to 8 mg), you will be ass blasted drunk after drinking just 3 beers. It will be the equivalent of having had somewhere between 500 to 600 mg of vodka. I, however, am skeptical as to whether or not you end up doing more damage to your brain when you mix the two. Sure, it can be scary, and you really need to take shit slowly when mixing the two, but not too slowly. The clonazepam will leave your system more slowly, but if you wait too long between drinks, you won't get ass blasted drunk like you'd expect.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The biggest reason I'm interested in mixing benzos with alcohol is to preserve my gains when I have particularly bad insomnia for a day. I have dragged myself into bed after getting absolutely shitfaced mixing the two before and woke up completely fine with absolutely ZERO hangover, because I obviously barely drank anything. The thing that really kills your gains when it comes to alcohol is the poison it metabolizes to, acetaldehyde, and acetaldehyde is the shit that gives you hangover. Your body works so hard to get this shit out of your system, that it seriously harms your gains. From my experiments, I already know that the amount of acetaldehyde produced is greatly diminished when mixing the two, which means my gains are minimally harmed. I actually wouldn't be surprised if mixing the two is actually healthier for my brain, even though no sane physician would recommend mixing the two. Alcohol literally kills your braincells, while benzos may just rewire shit in a way that requires some corrective action.

    I'm also looking into GHB, but there aren't really any suppliers of this shit in the US. What is GHB like? Also, are there any other alternatives that can really frick me up? Ambien isn't an option, since that stuff is batshit insane.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      benzos are also bad for neurons through downregulation though not by far as bad as alcohol. benzos however are much easier to build tolerance to and get addicted to (physically and mentally), GHB is both terrible for you and even worse in terms of addiction so stay away from that. you have to take enough days in-between benzos to lose your tolerance..

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >you have to take enough days in-between benzos to lose your tolerance..
        I've already been without benzos for two nights, and I will have a third night without them. If shits gets really bad, and I don't want to gain too much tolerance towards benzos, I might just drink without any benzos.
        >benzos are also bad for neurons through downregulation though not by far as bad as alcohol
        Alcohol literally kills neurons, even if you're not getting drunk. It's a horrible drug, and everyone acts like it's the safest drug their is. How many times have you heard people say "drugs and alcohol"? If benzos killed neurons like this, the FDA wouldn't approve them.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you're a good Christian you don't do any drugs. Period. If you drink, you're an alcoholic. If you take benzos, smoke dope, whatever, you're a druggie and you need to start reading The King James Holy Bible. Thats all I'll say. Think about what your doing with yourself.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Drugs suck but the Bible sucks even more honestly.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus drank alcohol all the time, and the KJV Bible didn't exist for the first 1,600 years of Christianity. You're not very intelligent.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've tried benzos a few times and consistently found them to be not fun. Not sure if that's a blessing or a curse.

      >t. forgot to take his meds today

      I'm gonna try phenibut with alcohol one day.
      Any of you junkie Black folk ever try that?

      It was exactly what I expected, which was getting drunk faster and a bit happier. My doses were what I would consider reasonable (~1-1.5 grams), not the four grams a day "I'm definitely not addicted bros" posts you see on Reddit.

      Does phenibut actually do anything? Maybe the stuff I got was just placebo, but it really doesn't seem to do shit. What's a good dosage?

      Phenibut (and pregabalin) is weird because I could never figure out what potentiated or reduced the effects. Sometimes I would take 1 gram and feel fantastic all day, other times I would take 1.5 grams and not feel it. You can try like 3 grams or something on a day with no responsibilities if you want to check if it's legit.
      The general rule is to take it on an empty stomach, which I always did.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've tried benzos a few times and consistently found them to be not fun. Not sure if that's a blessing or a curse.
        Congrats anon, you’re not an anxious wreck like most of us. If you don’t have issues with anxiety the only real recreational use case for benzos is sleep issues or using them to mitigate the comedown from stims or as a trip killer on psychs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you’re not an anxious wreck
          I am legitimately diagnosed with panic disorder kek. Though yeah, I guess it's not generalized anxiety, just specific situations.

          >trip killer on psychs
          hell yeah, they were a godsend for this. I want to do psychedelics again but I feel like they would have a 50% chance of helping me and a 50% chance of giving me a panic attack that would end up with me having a cameo on PoliceActivity.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what a ˢᵒʸᵇᵒʸ

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're gonna go far in life kid

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm just trying to deal with my lifelong insomnia, anon, and I'm trying to do so while minimizing the damage.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/R0SPEb3.jpeg

        The biggest reason I'm interested in mixing benzos with alcohol is to preserve my gains when I have particularly bad insomnia for a day. I have dragged myself into bed after getting absolutely shitfaced mixing the two before and woke up completely fine with absolutely ZERO hangover, because I obviously barely drank anything. The thing that really kills your gains when it comes to alcohol is the poison it metabolizes to, acetaldehyde, and acetaldehyde is the shit that gives you hangover. Your body works so hard to get this shit out of your system, that it seriously harms your gains. From my experiments, I already know that the amount of acetaldehyde produced is greatly diminished when mixing the two, which means my gains are minimally harmed. I actually wouldn't be surprised if mixing the two is actually healthier for my brain, even though no sane physician would recommend mixing the two. Alcohol literally kills your braincells, while benzos may just rewire shit in a way that requires some corrective action.

        I'm also looking into GHB, but there aren't really any suppliers of this shit in the US. What is GHB like? Also, are there any other alternatives that can really frick me up? Ambien isn't an option, since that stuff is batshit insane.

        Any benefits you get from a couple extra hours of drug induced sleep (not real sleep btw) will be grossly outweighed by the catabolism caused by consuming alcohol and hard drugs every night. If you want to be a moron and a junkie at least own up to it and stop being pathetic.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Any benefits you get from a couple extra hours of drug induced sleep (not real sleep btw)
          Bodybuilders in the 80s and 90s were famous for taking tons of benzos. They actually increase the percentage of your sleep that is deep sleep, and that is the sleep were you produce nearly all your growth hormone. The idea to add alcohol would only be to help me further fall asleep and ease my anxiety, but the amount of alcohol I would need to consume to feel this way would be greatly reduced, and the stress it would have on my body would be greatly reduced. I have experienced this myself. If you take enough benzos, then 3 beers will feel like 8 beers, but when you wake up in the morning, you won't have any hangover, because you're body had a fairly easy job getting rid of the acetaldehyde from the only 3 beers you drank.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            A lot of bodybuilders in the late 80s and 90s died young, you mong. Bodybuilders today frequently die young because of careless decisions that benefit them in the short term, at the cost of their longevity. You are either a fool, or desperately trying to justify getting crossfaded on kpins and alcohol as being your only method of sleeping. If you have insomnia, you will start taking them regularly. It will sneak up on you, and the next thing you know, you're taking multiple bars a day and you will be a complete fricking zombie that can't even remember anything from the past week. If you try to quit without the supervision of medical professionals, you will experience awful withdrawals and basically become a ticking seizure timebomb. You are playing a very stupid fricking game, that only entails very fricking stupid prizes.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              None of this has happened. The only drug I've ever become addicted to is alcohol, and it was all surrounding insomnia. I used to drink an insane amount of alcohol every night just to sleep. I gave up lifting entirely during this time for two years. I'm doing pretty damn fine now. I'm just trying to figure out what to do when I'm particularly anxious and I really just need to fall asleep while minimizing the harm to myself.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It hasn't happened yet, so it won't happen to me in the future. I definitely won't get addicted to a drug that works on the same receptors as alcohol and is considerably more addictive than alcohol, even though I have already become addicted to alcohol.
                You have no idea what you're talking about. I sincerely hope you don't go down this path, you will regret it. I am speaking from experience that you would rather not acquire.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally mix the two, and I'm still able to hold myself back from taking them everyday. Read my posts, anon.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have read your posts. I don't care if you think you have it "under control" now. From my perspective all I see is someone who developed an alcohol addiction to deal with sleep issues. Now you're introducing benzos into the equation so that you can get "ass blasted drunk" to fall asleep. All it sounds like to me is that you're now pursuing a stronger sensation to achieve the same result. Your tolerance will grow, eventually you will need to take more benzos for the same effect. Benzo tolerance builds very quickly and it does not dissipate nearly as fast. It is not something you can just reset every few days, or even weeks. 4 to 8mg of clonazepam is already a very high dose, ESPECIALLY if it's pharmaceutical grade instead of the stuff you would get off the street, that is cut with all sorts of shit. That also raises the question of where you're sourcing this shit, because if it's off the street, then you run the risk of drawing the short stick and buying bars that could be laced with fentanyl, which is a very real possibility.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't mention it in this thread, but I've literally had sleep issues since I was a baby. When I was in preschool and kindergarten, I was never able to take naps when it was nap time. I would just lie under a blanket and stay up the whole time. I've been visiting a couple sleep specialists since I was 17, and the one I've been visiting since I was 21 seriously wants to de a sleep study and perform various examinations on my brain, because he can't figure out what the frick is going on in my head when it comes to sleep. I'd actually completely sober up for a few days, go to the hospital, and have various brain activity tests performed to see what the frick has been wrong with my brain since I was a baby. This isn't some bullshit excuse, this is literally something I've had to deal with my whole fricking life. The good thing is, there are times when I can sleep fine for months on end, but these don't last forever, or I end up with problems where I randomly can't fall asleep for literal days on end with ZERO DRUGS. There was once when I literally stayed up for around three days straight being unable to fall asleep (I haven't always had access to drugs, and I only recently discovered dark net markets.). I often times feel like I don't even want to sleep, even after being up for over 30 hours. Everyone's brain is different, and mine is really weird when it comes to sleep. You're not going to convince me that taking a few benzos and drinking a few beers is going to destroy my health when I have to deal with the extreme bullshit I've been having to put up with my entire life.

                >dark net markets
                so you are taking fentanyl?

                >dark net markets
                >so you are taking fentanyl?
                You are literally fricking moronic.
                It's pharmaceutical clonazepam from blisters, although it's quite a bit more expensive than typical pressed xanax. It certainly doesn't have any fentanyl in it, and this is the type of shit that will get you banned of a lot of dark net markets. If you're a well respected shopper, then someone working for the dark net market will buy a sample of what you got, find it's got fentanyl in it, ban that butthole, and report his ass to all the other dark net markets through the major dark net forums. You can see this shit happening on those forums. They despise fentanyl. Fentanyl is extremely fricking illegal, since 8 out of every 10 overdose deaths in the US are from fricking fentanyl, so the feds will frick your shit up through the RICO Act for facilitating the distribution of fentanyl.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally mix the two, and I'm still able to hold myself back from taking them everyday. Read my posts, anon.

                Frick this "minimizing harm" bullshit. You aren't minimizing harm or doing yourself any good when the option to just not take any drugs is both the default and correct option. Also, we are reading your posts loud and clear, you are making the wrong decision.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bodybuilders in their 80s and 90s
            Well yes, they were also on copious amounts of gear. When you have elite genetics and the anabolic kitchen sink at your disposal, you can get a way with a lot of stupid shit and still make gains (case in point Rich Piana)
            See

            A lot of bodybuilders in the late 80s and 90s died young, you mong. Bodybuilders today frequently die young because of careless decisions that benefit them in the short term, at the cost of their longevity. You are either a fool, or desperately trying to justify getting crossfaded on kpins and alcohol as being your only method of sleeping. If you have insomnia, you will start taking them regularly. It will sneak up on you, and the next thing you know, you're taking multiple bars a day and you will be a complete fricking zombie that can't even remember anything from the past week. If you try to quit without the supervision of medical professionals, you will experience awful withdrawals and basically become a ticking seizure timebomb. You are playing a very stupid fricking game, that only entails very fricking stupid prizes.

            , you are being a complete dumbass and everybody on this thread knows it. If you have family that loves you, get sober for them and don't go down this path.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm gonna try phenibut with alcohol one day.
    Any of you junkie Black folk ever try that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does phenibut actually do anything? Maybe the stuff I got was just placebo, but it really doesn't seem to do shit. What's a good dosage?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        2-3 grams has me feeling a perfect buzz for hours and music sounds awesome

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alcoholic here, alcohol fricks your sleep. You may fall asleep but you’re not getting beneficial deep sleep, look it up if you don’t believe me. Same goes for pretty much any other drug induced “sleep.” Enjoy dumbass. Btw I’m hammered drunk rn boutta pass out hard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read this post.

      None of this has happened. The only drug I've ever become addicted to is alcohol, and it was all surrounding insomnia. I used to drink an insane amount of alcohol every night just to sleep. I gave up lifting entirely during this time for two years. I'm doing pretty damn fine now. I'm just trying to figure out what to do when I'm particularly anxious and I really just need to fall asleep while minimizing the harm to myself.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't mention it in this thread, but I've literally had sleep issues since I was a baby. When I was in preschool and kindergarten, I was never able to take naps when it was nap time. I would just lie under a blanket and stay up the whole time. I've been visiting a couple sleep specialists since I was 17, and the one I've been visiting since I was 21 seriously wants to de a sleep study and perform various examinations on my brain, because he can't figure out what the frick is going on in my head when it comes to sleep. I'd actually completely sober up for a few days, go to the hospital, and have various brain activity tests performed to see what the frick has been wrong with my brain since I was a baby. This isn't some bullshit excuse, this is literally something I've had to deal with my whole fricking life. The good thing is, there are times when I can sleep fine for months on end, but these don't last forever, or I end up with problems where I randomly can't fall asleep for literal days on end with ZERO DRUGS. There was once when I literally stayed up for around three days straight being unable to fall asleep (I haven't always had access to drugs, and I only recently discovered dark net markets.). I often times feel like I don't even want to sleep, even after being up for over 30 hours. Everyone's brain is different, and mine is really weird when it comes to sleep. You're not going to convince me that taking a few benzos and drinking a few beers is going to destroy my health when I have to deal with the extreme bullshit I've been having to put up with my entire life.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dark net markets
      so you are taking fentanyl?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You're not going to convince me
      That's fine, but pretty much nobody here is going to entertain your delusions either. You made the same thread a day or two ago, seems like you're fishing for people to validate your habits if anything, since you yourself admit you're just going to disregard opposition.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The issue is a blackout. You can easily forget that you already took your benzos leading you to take more or opposite where you forget how much you've drunk and drink more.

    The benzo and alcohol threat is real and I know what I'm talking about. This is outside the addiction threat which is compounded by taking them. The issue is the withdrawal from this brain chemistry can kill you. In fact it's pretty much the only two drugs that withdrawals can lead to fatal seizures because they act on the same pathway in brain.

    I would go the opposite route and take something like lsd or shoots and trip intensely hard and see how well you sleep in coming days.

    If you decide to start the benzo and alcohol route you have a very good chance of not waking up.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fitness?????

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Problem with alcohol for me is that it is an upper for about half an hour, then I start craving more. After some hours and many drinks later the sedating effects kick in and everything goes to shit. Became an alcoholic due to this. One drink, makes me more thirsty for another one to wake up.
    Taking Benzos would likely just make it more sedating which is the opposite of what I wanted from alcohol.
    Caffeine + Alcohol + Nicotine is the best combo. Also start drinking in the evening, never during the day.

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