Best thing to happen to me. Stopped loss in its tracks, got regrowth, and now I have luscious locks I get consistent complements on.
No broken dick, and I’ve achieved my best even strength on it. Cope harder I guess.
Best thing to happen to me.
Best thing to happen to me. Stopped loss in its tracks, got regrowth, and now I have luscious locks I get consistent complements on.
No broken dick, and I’ve achieved my best even strength on it. Cope harder I guess.
chud shill thread
but duuuuude some old people reported dick problems in this one study so it MUST mean it breaks your dick despite being 50 years younger!!!
Watching them triggered is so fun to me, knowing I’ll keep my hair and my dick while they get increasingly more desperate, but have turned down the most obvious solution and so that desperation is released as more and more anger. What happens then? Do they realize their error or just implode? Remains to be seen I guess.
>What happens then?
They take their anger out by telling naive young men to take the "buzzpill", crabs-in-a-bucket style
Reminds me of anti-vax chuds.
Both groups will continue denying reality to their dying breath, while we reap the pleasures of life.
Vaccines were bullshit anon. 40% effective at reducing symptoms. Didn't stop the spread. Paid for by taxpayers. Vaxxies still got covid. Pharmaceutical companies got richer. Long term effects remain unknown. It was the largest clinical trial in history. And most of the retards doing it didn't even get paid
stop making finasteride threads. You should be fudding finasteride so less men get on it. We can't have everyone regrowing their hair and becoming chad
Checked this. Learn how to properly fud from IST
I’m 25. I’ve been taking it for about 6 months now. At first I was taking 1mg a day every day. About a month and a half in I started to notice the sexual side effects. Libido was veryyy low. I wouldn’t get Morning wood anymore. My erections were weak, like 70% of what a normal erection was. Semen was watery and weird. The biggest side effects that made me lower my dose was throbbing headache, mood swing/high irritability - I would be angered so quickly and snap. This depression set in as well. I was just very very sad all day and had sad thoughts. I also had extremely bad anxiety, I would cry uncontrollably and shake…. Man this all sounds terrible now that I’m saying it out loud and reading this to myself… Umm the other side effect was testicular pain. I would get this throbbing testicle pain throughout the day and it would be painful. It would bother me throughout the day and when I was lying in bed at night. Even was painful to the touch. I stopped taking it for about a month and then proceeded to only take 2mg a week (2 pills a week). No more irritable ness, sad thoughts aren’t there anymore don’t really feel/have the side effects anymore.
personally, dealt with diminished libido, sensitivity, watery semen. it isn’t like my dick didn’t work, but it 100% was not the same. so I stopped it, and everything is back to normal.
I legitimately feel devoid of virility.. a noticeable difference after starting administration of finasteride
I'm about 5 months in. I'm sorry about the dick problem and headache, anon. For me the irratibility is true, I talk shit to people whoever annoys me, sometimes even try to start a fight, I've never behaved like this before taking fin, good to know that it's because of fin not me. Do you notice any difference in hair after reducing your dosage?
>For me the irratibility is true, I talk shit to people whoever annoys me, sometimes even try to start a fight, I've never behaved like this before taking fin,
Lowering DHT and other 5-AR neurosteroids in the brain can make you more neurotic.
thanks for the researches, anon. I'll check em out later.
Yeah my libido very slowly diminished over the 8 months I took fin. 8 months is the expected timeframe to see physiological changes in hair, so why not could physiological changes also happen slowly in other systems? I was also very emotionally sensitive + gyno. I stopped taking it and over several months I started to feel like myself again. This is all anecdotal experience, and it also came at a stressful time entering college, but since I experienced a dip in sex drive I feel better just eliminating hormone altering drugs all together just to control for that factor.
bros, the feeling of orgasm is the best feeling in the world. I am not trading that for hair lol. i was on 0.1% topical fin and after 3 months, i could get hard but my penis was numb and no orgasm feeling so i quit to just minox
My main issue with fin is not the sexual sides (which seem to not be too bad in most people) it’s the psychological. Neuroscientist Andrew Huberman talks about how most of the effects from androgens like testosterone that “make effort feel good” come from DHT in the body. He recommends staying away from it and tried it himself but felt really down. It does make sense that reducing the most androgenic hormone in your body will make you feel less masculine and hurt your most masculine urge (your sex drive). This is why I personally won’t start fin but if others have great results on it I’m happy
this shit fucks with your brain, hormones and even your dick https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7354335/
and that's after you stop taking it, who knows how bad it can get with chronic use
if you're fine with that more power to you
you should lower the dose and eventually stop, you already got your hair back which was the goal
I took dutasteride for several years. The first year was fine and I got a false sense of security. Then, erections started to get softer and softer. I used viagra and was in denial.
When I finally discontinued, it took months to get the dutasteride out of my system due to its long 60 day half life.
It's now been almost 2 years since discontinuing. I'm 30% improved.
I started oral minoxidil earlier this year and got a HT mid-August.
If I could go back in time to before my hair started to thin then I might consider trying topical finasteride but only if blood tests showed I still maintained a reasonable amount of serum DHT. I'd also consider taking a short (1 week?) break from the topical finasteride periodically.
Finally, I'd at least use topical minoxidil at night and/or a very small 0.625 dose of oral minoxidil/day.
Been on fin and min for about 5 years. Only sides were intermittent ball ache (that’s gone away) and watery semen (never went away). Penis also seems less sensitive but it kind of always has been, some girls love it some hate it lol.
Still have all my hair, it’s just thinner a bit but hopefully it will get thicker again soon.
I should note that almost every guy in my immediate family was bald by 20-25. I’m almost 40 and still have the same amount roughly.
im 10 weeks in. fine so far. libido initially increased, then after a month it became normal again. i pray i never get side effects. what worries me though is how some ppl get them up to a year later and those people apparently take longer to recover. i dont like that side effects can be delayed like that... what long term physiological changes are happening to the body in that time? not good. but going bald sucks ass, too, and that is guaranteed, rather than the 1% chance of side effects. we'll see.
The fact that weird mysterious posters keep pushing his so damn hard every fucking day on IST for YEARS on end make me instantly distrust this and never want to use it.
If someone was losing their hair, why would they trade the possibility of other bad things potentially happening? Why?
I just feel like only the people who hate IST are interested in convincing us to make less than the best type of choices, just like the keto shill that fanatically hates all forms of vegetables and accuses everyone of having green beans on their plate next to their steak as being a vegan.
>Best thing to happen to me.
>No broken dick, and I’ve achieved my best even strength on it. Cope harder I guess.
You know what the best thing that ever happened to me was? Knowing how to spot bullshit like this. No borked dick, nothing. just living my life. the only one coping is the desperate weirdo trying to convince everyone to take drugs.
>If someone was losing their hair, why would they trade the possibility of other bad things potentially happening? Why?
Because balding is a death sentence.
I've watched women 40+ laugh about bald men and swipe left on every bald man they see on tinder if they're single. They say they could just never date a bald guy or that if their husbands ever shaved their heads they'd leave them. That's old ladies. Now think about actually young women 18-22 (the only girls that matter).
There are plenty of women out there that are happy with a bald man, but I don't know if there are any women out there that are happen with a man that can't perform in bed.
>ask reasonable questions about a pharmaceutical drug
>immediately some creepy shady poster accuses me of anti-semitism
Fuck you, I am gnomish you dumbass.
That is some horrible decision making and reckless logic and thought process in my opinion. I assume you also love gambling all your money away in a casino because there is a small chance you might win a million dollars, but you never do. Again I'm just assuming, I can't really know that.
>anyway you dont care about my reproductive health at all, you're just a bald crab gay trying to drag me into the bucket with you.
talking to you reminded me of when I have seen people with friends are doing something stupid and the other friend warns them and instead of considering what they have to say they get extremely defensive and lash out against their friends, and keep doing the stupid thing endlessly out of petty spite.
It's your life, your choice, I have no say in anything you do, but if you think people are just gonna shut up and watch you weirdos spam these drug threads 24/7 for years and have no comments or opinions, that's just silly.
You talk about the whole crab bucket metaphor, but I think you might be a hypocrite or a shill. Why do I think this?
1. sunk cost fallacy
could it be possible you got fucked over and you have to keep trying to convince yourself you made the right choice by investing your time and effort to convince others of the same?
2. misery loves company
could it be possible you got fucked over and you want other people to be in the same situation as you so you don't feel like you're the only one who fucked up?
3. shilling
could it be possible this is being pushed on purpose? is there money to be made anywhere?
All I know is that this STINKS from 1000 miles away.
>There are plenty of women out there that are happy with a bald man
Post some whose bald man they're happy with isn't a rich celebrity.
>all that tldr
Look you dumb bald fuck. If you get side effects, you drop the drug, and go back to normal. There is literally negligible risk. Do you shit your pants every time you get in your car? Fuck off gimp.
Just get a hair system gay
One of the most attractive women I've ever seen loved bald men. Now i understand that's rare, but I've seen it happen more than once.
Yeah people win the lottery sometimes too. Banking your success on freak occurrences isn't the way to proceed through life.
>vain board constantly talks about vain subject
>DOOD ITZ DA JOOZ
didn't read your post btw. kys.
>If someone was losing their hair, why would they trade the possibility of other bad things potentially happening?
because chances of side effects are at most 3% and when you stop you go back to normal. post finasteride syndrome is most likely bullshit and an extremely rare thing. I don't care, I'll roll the dice, i'm more than likely going to be fine. hell if I could win a million dollars but I had to play russian roulette with a handgun with 100 slots and there are three bullets inside i'd do it. this isnt even that bad though because stopping the drug guarantees recovery according to every physician i spoke to about it. internet is stupid.
After 4 months on fin 1mg a day, I experience dry eyes and almost 0 libido, no nut november was no problem.. I think I will be cutting the pill in half. Is it better to cut it in half and use it every day, or just use one pill every other day?
So your male reproductive health is now less than it used to be, and has not yet become better? Why the fuck would you promote anything like this ever to anyone in the world if it would ever cause even a fraction of a percent of loss of any male reproductive health?
For what? a small amount of hair? Not even a full head of hair?
Even if someone promised me all the hair in the world and a billion dollars, why the fuck would I do this?
Your all insane.
>So your male reproductive health is now less than it used to be
I'm the second quote in your post, I didn't say that dickhead. My libido is exactly the same as it was before.
anyway you dont care about my reproductive health at all, you're just a bald crab gay trying to drag me into the bucket with you. I really don't give a fuck what you do, stay bald, take fin, eat a bullet, whatever, don't care. you should therefore stop caring about what I do too.
FWIW I took it and definitely got sides and feel as if sides are extremely downplayed.
Things like brain fog, lowered libido, erections were not as hard, much more watery semen, and just all around more lethargic than normal. I am currently 26 and have had two hair transplants and am still going to probably have to shave my head in the next year or so. I have diffuse thinning all over and it's been a pain in the ass but at the end of the day i'd rather shave my head and be tan/buff than feel like shit while having hair.
I struggle to believe that cutting 50-100% of your DHT does not cause ANY side effects.
DHT is at the very foundation of what makes a man a "man".
Without it, you'd have a voice like a girl and a penis the size of a thumb.
If you did not need DHT, I believe your body would stop producing it. If it was "only" useful in or pre-puberty.
It's been shown time and time again that doing things that negate your "manly" attributes do make your hair grow back or reduce hair thinning. Genetics are a bitch sometimes but I think the only true way to get rid of baldness is going to be when you can edit your own genes.
So DHT only actually acts in your skin and prostate.
However, 5ar2 is responsible for other things aside from DHT. I'd imagine a lot of the side effects are linked to that as well. Dick hardness and semen properties are likely prostate related.
>Cope harder I guess.
my brother in christ, you're the one who posted the thread. who are you responding to?
5 years fin + 5 years dut. I had sides but stayed in denial or ignored them. Among the well documented ones, I had watery and less voluminous load, decreased penile sensitivity, delayed ejaculation, erectile dysfunction (full blown recently). The ones that are documented only in older patients are frequent tendonitis, severe dry eyes.
I am off dut or fin for the past 2 months and still not recovered from any of them. Doc says the long half life of dut is the reason.
As someone who recently started finasteride (about 4 months ago), I can certainly say I've experienced some sexual side effects. Most notably, a significant decrease to my libido.
Here's where it gets tricky: there's a difference between not having side effects and not noticing side effects.
I've always tried to maintain a strong awareness of how I'm feeling in my body, but I made much more of a conscious effort to do so the two months leading up to starting finasteride. Like most people, my biggest concerns were focused around any potential implications this drug would have on my sexual well-being. So I made note of mornings when I would or wouldn't wake up with an erection, checked in with myself throughout the day to see how my energy level was feeling, paid attention to the frequency and intensity of my arousal, kept closer track of how frequently my partner and I were intimate, etc.
What did I learn? Finasteride or not - your sexual well-being fluctuates. There are going to be mornings when you wake up softer than your sheets. There are going to be times when you aren't in the mood for sex. And if I hadn't done this exercise and just immediately started finasteride, I know myself - I would have been very quick to interpret these fluctuations as overt side effects of the drug with no other possible explanation.
With all this said, the one thing I am undoubtedly sure of is that finasteride has really taken a hit on my libido. I haven't really noticed any changes to the quality or quantity of my semen, and my erections still feel strong (although maybe not quite as strong), but I have definitely lost some of my interest in sex (which could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your situation.)
I'm hoping that my body is still acclimating to the drug, otherwise I'll have to explore modifying my dosage or changing my schedule for taking the drug.
if i massage my prostate every day to orgasm will i still get sides
Is this the My Fin Journey thread for tonight?
>started fin 1.25mg EOD November 2021 at 28yo
>by January or February felt like I was getting low libido, didn't have regular morning wood and no random boners anymore just by thinking about it
>however, at the same time, sometimes if I was actually talking to a girl texting with her or snapping I'd get massive boners going just standing there texting her
>was able to fuck some hot 18yo nympho on my couch hard the entire time from her throating my dick on her knees in my living room to cooming in her over an hour later
>consistently after that another time I had some girl visit and fucked her three times in 12 hours, got up and hard every time, rock solid just putting my arm around her waist meeting her
>still was concerned anyway, went cold turkey in May to give blood then back on in June at 0.75mg
>eventually quit that too feeling I was getting sides again
>started homebrew 0.05% topical in August, seemed to be better as I was getting random boners again and more morning wood, getting it all back
>took breaks any time I was seeing watery jizz or felt lower libido, but as usual the biggest libido jumps were when I had actual girls on the hook
>topical sucks though getting proper coverage, was losing ground in some places I was neglecting
>finally now on 5mg oral minoxidil and microdosing finasteride with it
Will see how it goes. Balding is a curse upon men that's only beaten by manletism or dickletism.
How much everyday? I got 1mg tablets and break them in half and take 0.5 mg everday.
Even 0.5mg every day is basically overdosing on it. You actually only need a little bit because of how it inhibits your 5ar2 and also accumulates in your tissues.
0.5mg every other other day keeps your DHT down at 70% serum levels and 50% scalp levels.
0.25 mg every day is good ?
More than enough generally. Because of the cumulative effect of the 28 day half life in the tissues, you can take very low doses and have it get up to effective range over time.
so i don't understand whats the best dosage ? or should you like maybe take breaks after every couple of weeks or something ?
Seems like 0.2mg per day is best bang for buck
>is it possible there are actually people in the world who are stupid enough to be okay with possibly not having a functioning penis as long as they have nice hair because having no hair wont impress the ladies so gotta get that hair so you can impress the ladies so you can convince the ladies to visit the bedroom so you can not impress the ladies with a non-functioning penis?
At which point does this begin to sound logical?
Wouldn't the same women that reject men for not having hair be even more quick to reject men that don't have a functioning penis?
Who the fuck is the winner of this game? It ain't you dumbass, that's for sure!
At least if someone goes bald they can still fap at home or find a nice woman that cares about them having a healthy penis more than they care about a bald head.
Because balding is a guarantee you won't have hot chicks on your dick but taking fin is only a chance of limp dick.
Fin
1,5 years period
it makes me horny as fuck
Think I'll try topical, but I really can't imagine ingesting a chud drug
I don't have ball ache. People do get watery semen on fin but guess what? You stop the drug and it goes back for normal. Drug's been on the market for 30 years, tens possibly hundreds of millions of men have taken it by this point. If it made them all infertile it would have been recognised long ago you idiot.
gnomish shills should take all the meds they prescribe.
Anyone taken topical finasteride/dutasteride?
Yes.