Best weight training for boxing?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrestling better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wrestling
        >I am the danger, I create danger, I go into danger
        Boxing
        >I gotta keep him away with jabs like a homosexual
        That's why Sean Shitland lost

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I am sure to win, box is for sis-ACK!!!

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boxers don't weight train

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whelp, you're an idiot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You'll note the only barbell exercise joshua does is rdl. Everything else is dumbbell, kettlebell or weight vest

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nta but dumbells, kettlebells and vests are still weight training as opposed to what

          Boxers don't weight train

          said no?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not according to most of IST

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every old school coach I've talked to have said weights make you slow

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Even Tyson didn't lift before jail

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You're a moron if you believe this, infact, he says about doing barbell shrugs and medicine ball workouts and weighted vest stuff.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you are training in like a powerlifter or bodybuilder yes. Weightlifting style training has better carryover because it is quicker and more explosive.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Weightlifting style training
            you mean oly?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah exactly. Cleans, jerks and snatches etc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Here's Arthur beterviev lifting pretty weights, he has a 100% ko ratio btw.

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      Canelo lifting weights

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      Usyk lifting weights

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      Anthony Joshua

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      Crawford

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      Do you ever get tired of being such a fricking moron?.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta but saying they dont weight train at all is wrong but there's definitely an old school trainer myth about it. my old ass boxing coach was very against weight training. ive heard boxers/mma fighters say they dont or barely weight lift at all

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this was also a thing in american football, it's just moronic oldies thought the muscle would slow you down. it's a really old belief(generally known as false in the sports industry for at least 70 years) though so idk why anons are perpetuating it unless they're all megaboomers or influenced by them. I get that boxing moves a bit slower in standards and practices so maybe some older nobody coaches will stick to it, but why the frick are people saying it on IST

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are right that some dumbass coaches still believe that but fortunately better sport coaches are changing the perception on weight training, nowdays the majority do train with weights, specially fighters with personal coaches.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Squats

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a boxer with one fight. If you plan on actually fighting some day, this is what you should do. Right now, just workout and get bigger. Force equals mass times acceleration, so if you can increase your mass you're gonna hit harder. Arms are important. The bigger the arms, the bigger your shield. Abs are important. Don't get dropped by a body shot. When it comes to actually fight, start losing body fat at least two months ahead of time. My dumbass just starved myself for two weeks before the fight and I lost half my muscle mass. Above all else though, your techniques are going to win you your fights. Your conditioning is second most important (IE can you run 5 miles with a 9 minute pace per mile). Then, it's muscle. good luck champ

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know you are trolling, but to anyone who actually takes this shit serious this is moron advice. Big muscle will only slow you down and drain you. Mass don't do shit for punching power or durability. Strenght and explosiveness however are goat. This is why bodybuilding and powerlifting style training sucks for boxing. It makes you too slow.

      Olympic lifting is unironically king. If you want to develop explosive power for any sport, olympic lifting is one of the best ways to do it.
      Master the triple extension force production meme.

      This is good advice. Also other explosive training styles like plyometrics, shot put, medicine ball slams are good for striking sports.

      T. been training, competing in and coaching boxing and MMA for almost 15 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I sparred with a moron today who is 5'10 210 shredded and even when he would hit my guard it bounced my head around and hurt like hell. Anyone who has been in martial arts too long eventually falls for the "size doesn't matter" meme because they've been in their same weight class and beating up on bigger noobs at the gym for so long.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >. Big muscle will only slow you down and drain you
        what do you think generates speed you fricking moron? if muscle only slowed you down why are sprinters huge and yolked? have a nice day. there is some truth to boxers and sprinters interspersing heavy lifting with lighter lifting to train their neurology for early and fast acceleration, but all athletes benefit from lifting in some form or another

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like you been a mediocre coach training mediocre people for 15 years.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually great advice on here.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just watch GGG and Pacquiao training videos, I replicate what they do.

      >training for muscles
      Good luck with your cardio guy, study AJ vs Ruiz

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good luck with your cardio guy, study AJ vs Ruiz
        That'd be a weird video to compare and contrast considering both do weight work, mongoloid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See this post? Don't do what's I'm this post.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Olympic lifting is unironically king. If you want to develop explosive power for any sport, olympic lifting is one of the best ways to do it.
    Master the triple extension force production meme.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Running, for example, is the first to come back to after a break and the last thing to go if you have to leave anything out; weights are the opposite: first to leave off, last to add in.

    >Fight Saturday, drive home Sunday, back at it Monday morning. My weights trainer @johnny3046 had me do a circuit, 5 rounds of this, focusing on single leg moves and balance. For a long time I didn't think weights were important for Muay Thai, and I still would advise folks that it's not "necessary." Running, for example, is the first to come back to after a break and the last thing to go if you have to leave anything out; weights are the opposite: first to leave off, last to add in. That said, I've noticed huge improvements in just how I take up space with the work I've done on my posterior chain. I hired John because I was afraid to lift heavy without proper form. Since working with him, I've learned the importance of mind-body connection (good LORD, that's important for Muay Thai, too) and how functional movements just make my coordination better.

    from:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/C7LqTrEJBJS/

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boxers don't lift. As everyone who actualyl boxes knows. AJ is a good example, he just lifts for the press photos and it's very obvious he never regularly lifted weights by the way he deadlifts etc.

    Furey is another example fo a boxer starting to lose as soon as the weights come in. Just like Tyson or really anyone else.

    You can do grappling with lifting (not that great though), but boxing and lifting doesn't mix at all. In b4 noobs disagreeing, idgaf.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah bro a 6ft6 guy looks like this by doing uppercuts and shieet
      You're the kind of cuck that thinks atheltes don't roid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Boxers don't lift. As everyone who actualyl boxes knows.
      incorrect. this was true some places in the 50s when people thought muscle would "slow you down" and has been untrue literally ever since

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      https://youtu.be/Ux2qFPjBzGc?si=Cy6_vuZmLga5oMmE
      Here's Arthur beterviev lifting pretty weights, he has a 100% ko ratio btw.

      ?si=LvM6icyc2W0rMmPy
      Canelo lifting weights

      ?si=4CyCN0E6sEGKbyf7
      Usyk lifting weights

      ?si=Aonoy-xDTvHwo9lq
      Anthony Joshua

      ?si=NFRe-bnod65OZNZn
      Crawford

      ?si=cXjvpnmLoWeTKhhE

      Do you ever get tired of being such a fricking moron?.

      you stupid fricking pillowfisted moron dyel
      >Anyone who boxes knows [moronic opinion that is easily debunked]

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Full ROM free weights with explosive form (75% of max) Pull ups from dead hang, and shoulder dumbell work in the realm of 12-20 reps.

    The only exercise i would do as conventional as possible is deadlift really hard once a week.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it fricking depends moron. have a fitness coach/sports scientist analyse your punching/moving/etc, maybe you aren't explosive enough and you need to train early rfd, maybe you aren't strong in the followthrough and you need conventional strength training, maybe you have shitty rotational force, how would we know, athletic exercise is about shoring up deficiencies and then deciding where you want to develop compensatory or extraordinary strength. you can't ask what is the best weight training because the only way to know is to understand the underlying ideas behind training and the demands of the sport and how YOU interact with those needs. anons cannot go beyond guesswork.
    that said a highly explosive clean with moderate to light weight has never hurt anyones performance

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would say any oly lift would be best for boxers. Power(explosive strength) would be my guess is whats most important over just strength(how much you can move without regard to how quickly you do it)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your issue here is that you're assuming power and strength are diametrically opposed to eachother when they really feed into one another and can be trained at the same time. Typically you begin with your power excercises first because you want to be as fresh as possible for them, but after that there's nothing stopping you from increasing your base force production as well. The o-lifts are great for any athletic persuit but they shouldn't be focused on to the exclusion of everything else.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IST ain't ready for this, but the bent press has the most athletic carryover of any lift. It's more complicated than any oly lift, and most guys can't even do the movement without any weight, much less 50+ lbs.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this is how you get tetraplegic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can move 125 lbs. from the ground to overhead in that fashion. The best weightlifters in the past could do that weight for 10 reps with ease.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lifting heavy weights as fast as possible is the single best way to train for athletic performance no matter the sport.
    If you can get a speed tracker you can measure the bar speed and keep it on 200 millisecond, that way you are applying high amounts of force quick and every single aspect of your athletism will improve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sometimes it's better to lift weights that aren't quite as "heavy". see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dery7L2pfFs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally the first thing he mentions is that you need to move weights fast, i can agree that lifting heavy is not always necessary but is still the best way to train to improve athletism because to be more athletic for any sport you need to apply more force quicker.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          right I wasn't contradicting your statement I was just contributing nuance

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I remember seeing some YT short about Mine throwers combined with resistance bands being great for developing power/explosiveness. I mean if you look at the movement itself it sort of makes sense. Following that logic I would imagine curls aided with bands would be good for uppercuts? Kinda improvising here but you get the idea, I hope.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You want explosive power for boxing, therefore lifting as this board understands it isn't very useful but I don't see anything wrong with incorporating some strength training.
    But lifting for weight is fricking trash and I don't see why you would do that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Except that you and this board are moronic and don't understand shit about how to train for power.
      Power is force times acceleration, your base level of strength determines how much potential power you can produce so being physically stronger enables you to develop more power by being able to apply more force.
      Rate of force development aka power is the ability to apply higher amounts of force during a movement and how much force you can apply is dependant on how strong you are to begin with.
      This has nothing to do with speed, just how much strength you can apply and the best way to train for strength and power is lifting weights fast.

      The other part of the equation is speed and that's when the more commonly known power equals speed times mass enters and can replace strength times speed because the mass moving at high speeds can create impact similar to someone very strong, hence why fast fighters still hit hard even if they aren't as strong but speed is harder to develop than power.

      Developing power is simple, lift heavy and fast, I don't understand what's so hard about this to understand to morons like you regurgitating what you heard other morons say.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At least you treating real life like an rpg makes this post easy to ignore.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok moron.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Best weight training for boxing
    None. Weight training makes you slow from the increased tension in your muscles, and messes up your form since the balance between your muscles changes. The balance problem can be somewhat lessened by only doing exercises that mirror the punches (different varaitions of dumbbell presses, mostly) or simply punching with weights, but the increased tension is a massive problem that can only be overcome through rest and deliberate relaxiation.
    To increase the effects of your punches, learn proper form, do lots of punches at full speed against a padded, immovable surface (a moving surface like a light sandbag might shift back and cause injury from overextension once you're near failure). Repeat until you can't move, then take a short pause and repeat until your arms are sore.

    Add a good conditioning regime to strengthen your bones and some form of endurance training, and you're good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Yet another moron talking about what he knows nothing about.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh tension in muscles
      I can tell you are a fool with 0 muscle control skills. Musculature is only an issue when you get roidtroony bodybuilder tier musculature that is so vouminous it makes movement hard.

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