Big chests are gay

Let me guess, you *need* more?

Ancient greek statues and bronze age lifting produced the most aesthetically pleasing physiques.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Compare it with pic related, the typical manboob shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
      All genders like a bit of chest meat to grab on to.
      One of my favorite axioms is: More chest, more sex.

      https://i.imgur.com/xVOibJS.png

      [...]
      Nothing more than the sad whimpers of a chestlet with sour grapes.

      Pec envy, you love to see it.
      Build the chest, frick the rest.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you know what axiom means? It's a base assumption you simply declare to be correct without any proof,

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Actually, it's that the thing in question is already established as being true. If something is an axiom, it means it IS true.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >proving something that is self-evident
          Why don’t you go hit the bench press instead of fumbling with words, chestlet.

          https://i.imgur.com/6tWXSbZ.jpg

          >V cut
          What are you referring to specifically?

          [...]
          >Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
          So women also love a nice tight vegana on their guy? I mean going by your logic, women love what men love on a woman.
          Please don't stop there, keep going.
          >bro women love a guy who can suck a dick, just like men love it when a woman can suck their dick

          [...]
          You can already see an entire thread filled with
          >the only reason you don't like big breasts is because you dont have them
          >sour grapes
          >big breasts is what women love
          etc. Kinda sad innit? Young men get groomed by gay homosexuals to chase aesthetics that highly appeal to homosexual men who miss the touch of a soft titty and must grow their own.

          Reread what I wrote, your seething is clouding your reading comprehension.
          Pecs and breasts are not the same, though I see you are trying to conflate the two.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >a draw comic is all the proof I need that women expect breasts from me
            sad

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It is sad.
              You, as a man, can grow your chest.
              You can build your pecs.
              You don’t need to wallow in chestlet-ism.
              I don’t know what your physique is like, but I’m guessing your frame would look better if it had some big square pecs on it.
              The way I see it, you owe it to yourself to develop your pecs as much as you can.

              https://i.imgur.com/HjQS1Dv.jpg

              >the absolute state of chestlets

              When I was a kid I thought Arnold’s pecs were like armor, that nothing could hurt him through those slabs of chest meat.
              Unironically is one of the reasons I started lifting.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This. Remember, your chest and abs sit directly in front of your vital organs. Developing them both is imperative, as well as all of your other muscles.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Same, my man, same. It is also true you are not doomed to be a chestlet, just binch.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah, I'd like to report a manlet
                >He's outside of the screen, staring at a phone on a tripod
                >What do you mean, 'Is it an emergency'? Of COURSE it's an emergency!
                >Fine! Forget it!
                >*click*
                >Whaaaaat's the deeeeeal with the terrorism hotline?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Man, you're really hung up about this, huh? It's always funny to me that every time you make this thread, the vast majority of people disagree with you. I just don't see the point in looking for affirmation of your opinion in a place where most people disagree with you. How have you not learnt this yet?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >that image
                >miring
                >literally has a wtf face on her
                lol!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's a mire, homosexual. She's clearly wet, you dumb frickface.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >can't real facial expressions
                autism, unironically. Take an online autism test that uses facial expressions as a benchmark.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's a mire. Get over it. Big chests look better and no one is on your side. Stop making this thread. You only ever get made fun of, so what is even the point of making it?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Also, I can tell facial expressions just fine (infinitely better than you can, by the way), and it's clearly a look of "whoa!" as in positive surprise.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's a mire. Get over it. Big chests look better and no one is on your side. Stop making this thread. You only ever get made fun of, so what is even the point of making it?

                stop coping and take the autism test.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
        Ok but I don't have sex so it's not relevant to me

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So true so true, I have a developed chest and I had a girl bite it and lick it and she liked it a lot it gave me a lot of self esteem

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >build the chest frick the rest

        That I disagree with, a built chest should be paired with built 3D delts and a flat/strong six pack/core. No reason to not to work them when they also support most pushing too

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's true, man breasts are un aesthetic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/MJ8Jjux.jpg

      I already posted what an aesthetically pleasing physique is like. It's the pic in OP.
      [...]
      I obviously disagree.
      [...]
      Yet they are extremely popular right now. Do people just follow what everybody else is doing? Just like with roiding becoming more and more common, people just do what others are doing?

      Nothing more than the sad whimpers of a chestlet with sour grapes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Jeff said is peak aesthetic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      DOUBLE GYNO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree with OP, but come on. These roiders are not aesthetic at all

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Chestbrah is more aesthetic than zyzz ever was

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    post body then
    let's see that aesthetically pleasing physique

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I already posted what an aesthetically pleasing physique is like. It's the pic in OP.

      https://i.imgur.com/VR4kagW.jpg

      Jeff said is peak aesthetic

      I obviously disagree.

      It's true, man breasts are un aesthetic

      Yet they are extremely popular right now. Do people just follow what everybody else is doing? Just like with roiding becoming more and more common, people just do what others are doing?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        nonono
        I wanted YOU to post YOUR body
        you obviously have a great one since you know so much about aesthetics, right?
        you're just not some fatass talking out of your ass, right?
        now
        post body
        your opinion is worthless until then

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          still waiting btw
          homosexual
          fatass homosexual gay moron

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Do i have to be a woman too to know what looks good and what does not in a woman you stupid homosexual Black person?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How the frick did he mamage to achieve that V cut? Everything else seem doable to me but that V cut...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >V cut
          What are you referring to specifically?

          https://i.imgur.com/6WwDBjt.jpg

          Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
          All genders like a bit of chest meat to grab on to.
          One of my favorite axioms is: More chest, more sex.

          [...]
          Pec envy, you love to see it.
          Build the chest, frick the rest.

          >Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
          So women also love a nice tight vegana on their guy? I mean going by your logic, women love what men love on a woman.
          Please don't stop there, keep going.
          >bro women love a guy who can suck a dick, just like men love it when a woman can suck their dick

          >Do people just follow what everybody else is doing? Just like with roiding becoming more and more common, people just do what others are doing?
          Yes. Don't want to show weakness by doing your own thing and going against the grain, it's the zoomer generation after all.

          You can already see an entire thread filled with
          >the only reason you don't like big breasts is because you dont have them
          >sour grapes
          >big breasts is what women love
          etc. Kinda sad innit? Young men get groomed by gay homosexuals to chase aesthetics that highly appeal to homosexual men who miss the touch of a soft titty and must grow their own.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I'm sorry, I meant the adonis Belt of the left dude. Im ESL

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm pretty sure you get those from working obliques.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What are you referring to specifically?
            The cum gutters

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Do people just follow what everybody else is doing? Just like with roiding becoming more and more common, people just do what others are doing?
        Yes. Don't want to show weakness by doing your own thing and going against the grain, it's the zoomer generation after all.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this is top tier body

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          what a great physique, is it just being lean while having everything developed modestly?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Insanely lean. Striations like that are at like sub-10% bf so I'd say that it's a great physique but looking like that casually is going to be super unhealthy

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              not him but some people just tolerate lower %s easier than most, personally i was the tall skinny kid growing up but after 4 years of lifting I can be decently lean after not much effort and not be drained or drawn out, that being said I do much prefer being around 15%

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That's a fair point but various studies show that below 12% bf is where you start getting health issues which is as bad as being fat. So even genetically lean people (which isn't me lel) still should avoid sub-12% year round.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                defo, pulling that level of leanness through the winter is not fun in the slightest.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          that is a well developed chest moron stop watching roid trannies

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >hercules
        >small chest
        This fricking guy.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Big chest mommy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/6tWXSbZ.jpg

        >V cut
        What are you referring to specifically?

        [...]
        >Just like how guys like squeezing breasts in missionary, girls like squeezing pecs when they are riding you.
        So women also love a nice tight vegana on their guy? I mean going by your logic, women love what men love on a woman.
        Please don't stop there, keep going.
        >bro women love a guy who can suck a dick, just like men love it when a woman can suck their dick

        [...]
        You can already see an entire thread filled with
        >the only reason you don't like big breasts is because you dont have them
        >sour grapes
        >big breasts is what women love
        etc. Kinda sad innit? Young men get groomed by gay homosexuals to chase aesthetics that highly appeal to homosexual men who miss the touch of a soft titty and must grow their own.

        https://i.imgur.com/ScNQRyU.jpg

        ancient greek mog

        https://i.imgur.com/f4pNDyA.jpg

        this is top tier body

        https://i.imgur.com/L9pFYXm.jpg

        >hercules
        >small chest
        This fricking guy.

        Muh ancestor cope and greco-roman statue larp posting homosexualS deserve the rope. Black folk read Meditations and BAP once and never shut the frick up about it

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >little boy bird chest thread: cope edition

    Women snicker about dudes who take shirtless selfies when they've got nothing but nipples taped to a ribcage. Probably more damning than being short, especially if you're no longer a little twinky boy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Women don't know shit. They rub my gyro breasts and say wow you must Bench a lot.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >a man mentally bullied by his own insecurity to get manboobs to appeal to his ideas of what a woman wants from him
      sad

      https://i.imgur.com/pWRtNwT.jpg

      >big chests are gay
      yes, 95% of this board is homosexual
      i thought this was common knowledge

      it used to be a joke, keyword used to be, but over the years the joke about fit being gay has gotten to be less and less of a joke and more of a reality.
      It is as they say, if you get your jokes pretending to be moronic, actual morons will flood in thinking they are in good company.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >"I'm a dyel homosexual larping on a fitness board, i have an undeveloped anemic frame that no one lusts after"

        There, could've just said that

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        it was never a joke, i always wanted to stick my dick between some gigantic oiled up pecs

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >IT WAS ONLY A JOKE!!!!!
        Black person if you were actually here in the early 10s that was absolutely not the case. IST has always been IST’s gayest board.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It was a joke the the no homosexual shit and so on, it was a bunch of straight guys making jokes. I know, I was part of that and had friends who were part of that.
          These days it's no longer a joke, there is absolutely been an increase of unironic homosexuals.

          >It takes two to tango and the same starter post will yield different results depending on the mindset of the ones who reply.
          Sure, but it skews the probabilities of the thread turning into a shitflinging mudpile.
          >Oh so just something you invented in your head.
          You literally accused me of having a persecution complex, do you have alzheimers? Dafaq

          >Sure, but it skews the probabilities of the thread turning into a shitflinging mudpile.
          Maybe it tips the probability in that direction to some degree.

          >You literally accused me of having a persecution complex,
          What do you call it then when any interaction you have goes with "it's probably demoralizers trying to get me"? And you post a christian website about how they are fighting some religious battle already against the unseen psychological terror or some shit.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >pic
            Persecution complex is referring to collectives, you're the only one disseminating demoralization in this thread so by default this is excluded since I'm not claiming that there's a ton of people ITT posting that shit, it's just you.
            >Maybe it tips the probability in that direction to some degree.
            It certainly does
            >And you post a christian website about how they are fighting some religious battle already against the unseen psychological terror or some shit.
            That was a different anon, not me. And perhaps we are? Who knows

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Persecution complex is referring to collectives
              And I'm sure you don't think I'm the only "demoralizer" out there out to get ya.
              >you're the only one disseminating demoralization in this thread
              Yes, this thread. But what about the other threads, what about life? You clearly don't go out of your way to make a word like demoralizer, just for one person in one thread.
              It's clearly some kind of issue you have in general.
              >I'm not claiming that there's a ton of people ITT posting that shit, it's just you.
              Again, you trying to pretend you came up with a term just for me in this thread, on the spot. And that you in fact did not use this for other people and situations.
              Kinda hard to believe.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >And I'm sure you don't think I'm the only "demoralizer" out there out to get ya.
                None of them are out there to get any specific person, they're trying to grab as many people as they can lol. Or they're just shitposters, some are just having a little fun I suppose
                >Yes, this thread. But what about the other threads, what about life? You clearly don't go out of your way to make a word like demoralizer, just for one person in one thread.
                >It's clearly some kind of issue you have in general.
                Crabs in a bucket, many such cases both on the internet and in life. Shouldn't there be a term to describe them?
                >Again, you trying to pretend you came up with a term just for me in this thread, on the spot. And that you in fact did not use this for other people and situations.
                >Kinda hard to believe.
                I didn't invent the term, I only used it because someone else ITT used it before I did lol

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >big chests are gay
    yes, 95% of this board is homosexual
    i thought this was common knowledge

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    chestlet cope thread

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Benchlet cope

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >daily chestlet cope
    you act just like fat girls

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >muh ancient greek statues
    FFS, the IST "trad"stoic caricature will eat itself.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      stoicism was late roman empire
      greek morality stands in stark contrast

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    let me guess, you *need* more chest, otherwise the women wont love you and you are a fox?

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Let me guess, you *need* more?
    Well I hope to bench 405 one day so yes

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >XYZ IS GAY YOU CANT DO IT NOO
    Shut up, I'm going to do weighted ring dips and incline bench until I have pecs so big that they literally obstruct my movement. Big pecs means big vitality, cope more

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >weighted ring dips

      Sounds like a recipe for joint damage, it’s always best to have alternate exercises to avoid repetitive use damage on exercises that challenge joint health

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ancient greek mog

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >dick chopped off
      ....
      >lots of man on boy love
      ........
      >world superpower and cultural bastion
      based

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >the absolute state of chestlets

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Thats just drug induced water and glycogen filled muscle.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the thing is the chest is so bulky and visible even with a shirt on its kind of a testament to your exercise capacity

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >statue posting
    >dyel coping

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >y-you don't like big manbreasts because you can't grow them
      >so why does this statue which could be any shape or size have these aestetically pleasing chests then? are you going to accuse the statue of being unable to grow a big chest
      >AHHHH SOUR GRAPES!!!!!

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >anon is making up scenarios in his head again
        Meds

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    im pretty certain the bubbly chests we see today are a result of gyno, usually from roids or they developed it some time in their life such as in puberty
    you dont see the bubble chests even in silver era guys, its very rare at least
    healthy men dont develop huge rounded pecs even if they try

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry anon, but flat pecs will always look better than "full" ones in my opinion. However, I cannot image being upset at you wanting them, or thinking you're inferior for it. The beauty of bodybuilding is the ability to sculpt your body to your liking, in accordance with your own ideals. Any attempt at driving a wedge between lifters over trivial stuff like this reeks of homosexual demoralizers. Same with the bodybuilding vs. powerlifting shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      > reeks of homosexual demoralizers.
      everything is fricking demoralizers to you people...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and we aren't going to fall for the demoralization. Cope all you want, it isn't going to work.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          How does it feel living with a persecution complex?
          Did you just hecking disagree with me, you are part of them aren't you, aren't you?!

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >you're fighting against my attempts to break you down mentally?
            >you have XYZABC complex!
            Shut up, it isn't going to work. You have no power of me, or any of the other anons ITT. We will get ENORMOUS pecs, and there is nothing you can do to stop us.

            >weighted ring dips

            Sounds like a recipe for joint damage, it’s always best to have alternate exercises to avoid repetitive use damage on exercises that challenge joint health

            I only do them once a week, I do ring pushups on my other upper body session. I think ring movements are very good for the joints tbh

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >>you're fighting against my attempts to break you down mentally?
              See this is what I'm talking about. How is people discussing chest aestetics about you?
              How is one guy going I like big chest and the other guy going I like modest chests, about you?
              > We will get ENORMOUS pecs, and there is nothing you can do to stop us.
              Oh I see now, you like big chests but are having suddenly doubts about it after looking at this threat and rather than question your assertions or just ignoring it, you think it's a personal attack on you.
              Amazing, the level of narcissism and self importance needed for that kind of shit to be in this constant victim complex to derive some kind of victory over your imagined foes.

              Imagine enjoying vannila chocolate icecream and somebody says vanilla is better and you thinking it's not because they genuinely like vannilla icecream but because it's all a ploy to mentally break you down
              the irony is that you have to be mentally broken to think like this.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How is one guy going I like big chest and the other guy going I like modest chests, about you?
                Because you keep making threads shitting on big pecs? Look at the thread subject: "Big chests are gay", instead of something like "Modest pecs look aesthetic." You're not going "I like modest chests", you're saying "BIG PECS ARE SHIT"
                >Oh I see now, you like big chests but are having suddenly doubts about it after looking at this threat and rather than question your assertions or just ignoring it, you think it's a personal attack on you.
                I have 16 sets a week of chest in my program, the frick are you talking about? LMAO
                >Amazing, the level of narcissism and self importance needed for that kind of shit to be in this constant victim complex to derive some kind of victory over your imagined foes.
                You're the one who is making this out to be bigger than it is. You're over here trying to do armchair psychology when in reality, you just made a thread shitting on big pecs, so everyone on IST starts shitting on you, so then you start freaking out and begin diagnosing everyone with various mental illnesses. Shut the hell up
                >Imagine enjoying vannila chocolate icecream and somebody says vanilla is better and you thinking it's not because they genuinely like vannilla icecream but because it's all a ploy to mentally break you down
                Again, if this was true you would have said "Modest chests look aesthetic", not "BIG PECS ARE SHIT HAAHAAHHA FRICK YOU".
                >the irony is that you have to be mentally broken to think like this.
                The only one who is mentally broken here is the one who is trying to convince himself that everyone who disagrees with him is actually mentally ill. Go back

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Because you keep making threads shitting on big pecs? Look at the thread subject: "Big chests are gay", instead of something like "Modest pecs look aesthetic." You're not going "I like modest chests", you're saying "BIG PECS ARE SHIT"
                Yes, that is my opinion, sissy. Got a problem with other people having a different opinion than you?
                My honest opinion is big pecs look like shit. I'm not going to lie to your face and tell you I find them aesthetically pleasing.
                You are going to have to grow up and accept the fact that not everybody is going to have the same opinion, that people can genuinely hold different opinions.
                >b-but it's provocative to outright come and say that
                We aren't on reddit, or some discord hug box. I come to IST where people can openly say what they mean instead of worrying about being politically correct or some other shit.
                >I have 16 sets a week of chest in my program, the frick are you talking about? LMAO
                How is this relevant?
                >You're over here trying to do armchair psychology when in reality, you just made a thread shitting on big pecs,
                yes the reality is that I'm not doing armchair psychology, but instead I made a threat that shits on the big chest aesthetics that many people subscribe to these days
                >rest of your crying
                I don't really care. Talk about the great chest debate, big chest, small chest, your reasons for either one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, that is my opinion, sissy. Got a problem with other people having a different opinion than you?
                You're entitled to your opinion, but sperging out because most people don't like your opinion just makes you look childish. And calling me a sissy is a huge stretch, considering the fact that you have no pressing strength to speak of.
                >My honest opinion is big pecs look like shit. I'm not going to lie to your face and tell you I find them aesthetically pleasing.
                And I'm going to shit on your opinion because my opinion is better than your opinion. Simple as
                >We aren't on reddit, or some discord hug box. I come to IST where people can openly say what they mean instead of worrying about being politically correct or some other shit.
                Sure, but sperging out because people disagree with you is childish as frick. You haven't even made a single good argument for your opinion in this thread anyway, your shit opinion deserves better than you
                >How is this relevant?
                You're acting as if your stupid argument somehow made "doubts" in me about big pecs, don't try to sidestep this.
                >yes the reality is that I'm not doing armchair psychology, but instead I made a threat that shits on the big chest aesthetics that many people subscribe to these days
                So don't be surprised when people shit on you for having a shit opinion. If someone made a thread saying "I like eating shit and drinking piss and eating cum, you guys should do it too" of course people would shit on him

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You're entitled to your opinion
                Says the guy policing my expression of speech.
                >but sperging out because most people don't like your opinion just makes you look childish.
                This the part where you tell me that anything you don't like is sperging?
                >And calling me a sissy is a huge stretch
                Mentally anon, mentally. I have no idea of your physical form, but mentally people who can't handle the idea of somebody else having another opinion and that they should be extremely tender in their expression as not to offend anybody come of as a mental sissy to me.
                >And I'm going to shit on your opinion
                Go ahead. But please, don't start invoking your religion and how it was all philosophized that you'd be fighting demoralizer spawn in the pits of IST
                It just comes as somebody who has a great need to feel importance in life that they are missing so they dramatize menial shit to be bigger than it is.
                >because my opinion is better than your opinion. Simple as
                By that very logic, I can say my opinion is better than your s and you would have literally nothing you could say against that. If you want to be objective about it, you'd have to come up with reasons that exist outside of you and me. Otherwise either side can just proclaim to be right and be equally justified.

                >Sure, but sperging out because people disagree with you is childish as frick. You haven't even made a single good argument for your opinion in this thread anyway, your shit opinion deserves better than you
                Well if you payed attention, my objective wasn't to convince anons to abandon their big chesttittys and go for smaller aesthetically pleasing chests. Rather I wanted to see what motivations people have for thinking big chests are good, other than "its popular, everybody is doing it and I saw some big body builder as an impressionable young child"
                Like how many people, if they had no contact with human society, would reach the same conclusion that big man breasts are good if they didn't have media grooming them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Says the guy policing my expression of speech.
                The frick are you talking about? I can't delete your posts lmao
                >This the part where you tell me that anything you don't like is sperging?
                Trying to diagnose everyone you disagree with with mental illnesses is very mentally ill anon.
                >Mentally anon, mentally. I have no idea of your physical form, but mentally people who can't handle the idea of somebody else having another opinion and that they should be extremely tender in their expression as not to offend anybody come of as a mental sissy to me.
                Because I can tell that you didn't post your opinion for the purposes of having a dialogue to reach a higher truth, you're just trying to shit on other people for liking something else. Of course I'm going to shit on you in turn. If the other party is respectful and willing to have a dialogue, I will happily debate with them so that I can attain new knowledge that I can apply to my own life. You wouldn't know anything about that, of course.
                >Go ahead. But please, don't start invoking your religion and how it was all philosophized that you'd be fighting demoralizer spawn in the pits of IST
                >It just comes as somebody who has a great need to feel importance in life that they are missing so they dramatize menial shit to be bigger than it is.
                And why does it matter? I can believe that my life means nothing, or I can believe that my life is a wonderful drama with all sorts of interesting events. But it's not your life so why should you care about what I choose to believe?
                (1/2)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The frick are you talking about? I can't delete your posts lmao
                Ironic that you have this sentiment when you were up in arms about "demoralizers" just a while ago.
                >Trying to diagnose everyone you disagree with with mental illnesses is very mentally ill anon.
                Did you just try to diagnose me?
                >Because I can tell that you didn't post your opinion for the purposes of having a dialogue to reach a higher truth, you're just trying to shit on other people for liking something else.
                See into my soul, do you anon? Do you often think you have telepathy?
                > You wouldn't know anything about that, of course.
                Of course I wouldn't, as you have already telepathically deduced, I am a great ancient evil awoken and here to fight the good Christians, just like your religious texts warned you about. But do not despair brothers, we will hold fast and push back against this evil!
                >And why does it matter? I can believe that my life means nothing, or I can believe that my life is a wonderful drama with all sorts of interesting events.
                Well, what you believe affects your actions and how you interact with others, does it not?
                Just the same way you are annoyed at me for not pussyfooting around the topic in OP and making a stance. I'm kinda annoyed when people make everything about themselves and how they are having a grandiose fight against whatever evil they made up.
                Think of the liberals for instance, they love to play victim politics about how everybody is oppressed under whites. How systemic racism is still a big problem etc.
                They continue to invent problems and fight them because it gives their lives a sense of belonging and meaning. At the expense of branding a bunch of normal people who really just want to live their life as racists, nazies, facist etc.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Ironic that you have this sentiment when you were up in arms about "demoralizers" just a while ago.
                That has nothing to do with "policing your posts", it simply means I'm not going to listen to you because you're trying to blackpill me
                >Did you just try to diagnose me?
                I only diagnosed one person, so I'm not mentally ill 🙂
                >See into my soul, do you anon? Do you often think you have telepathy?
                You know I can infer your intentions from reading your posts, right? It isn't that complicated lmao
                >Of course I wouldn't, as you have already telepathically deduced, I am a great ancient evil awoken and here to fight the good Christians, just like your religious texts warned you about. But do not despair brothers, we will hold fast and push back against this evil!
                I believe this wholeheartedly
                >Just the same way you are annoyed at me for not pussyfooting around the topic in OP and making a stance.
                Shitfooting is hardly any better anon. I hate the "muh balance" gays but they're right in this case.
                >I'm kinda annoyed when people make everything about themselves and how they are having a grandiose fight against whatever evil they made up.
                It's really not that complicated anon. You try to blackpill me, and I declare that I will not be affected by it. It's not complicated

                >I said that because you did the exact same thing.
                So you are doing the exact same thing you criticize? Isn't that hypocritical? Aren't you supposed to be better?
                >You didn't make a thread promoting modest chests
                Excuse me? I believe I made it as clear as possible that I prefer more modest chests and gave clear examples of what I find good and what I find over the top manbreasts.
                >you made a thread shitting on big pecs with nothing to back it up besides "I said so".
                Well think about it, aesthetics are purely subjective. And I did bring up aesthetics.
                If you'd want to talk about something more objectively, you'd have to delve into the realm of how does a big chest benefit or limit you, physically. And that has nothing to do with aesthetics.
                >So of course I'm not going to enter a dialogue with you to try to pry out some knowledge
                Eh, that's your choice and your character. Remember other people don't control what you do.
                > since you're not interested in that in the first place.
                Hubris to assume to know what others want with so little info.
                >You could have done the same thing much better by JUST ASKING??
                I could, but at the same time I assume that most fit posters won't have a meltdown form somebody having a different opinion than them. I expect them to be chads that drop in, post their unfiltered opinion, maybe bant about it, post some images and devolve into discussion.
                > No, you just have to shit on it instead
                Again, not afraid of hurting somebodys feelings or triggering somebody. Only adults should be posting here and they should be able to handle a different opinion. The level of melty or civility is kinda up to people. To assume I have full control of peoples actions would imply they have no agency.
                >and then you wonder why everyone else shits on you.
                Where did I wonder that? Can you point that you?

                >So you are doing the exact same thing you criticize? Isn't that hypocritical? Aren't you supposed to be better?
                Fighting fire with fire actually works so no, I don't have to be better. The frick am I supposed to do anyway? If you start off by declaring your opinion as being correct because you said so, I can't do anything else but the same since you'll just go "NUH UH, I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG"
                >Excuse me? I believe I made it as clear as possible that I prefer more modest chests and gave clear examples of what I find good and what I find over the top manbreasts.
                Look at your thread subject. I don't see modest chests anywhere, I only see you shitting on big pecs.
                (1/2)

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >That has nothing to do with "policing your posts", it simply means I'm not going to listen to you because you're trying to blackpill me
                You shouldn't listen to me because you disagree with me. Not because I'm le hecking evil trying to le IST blackpill you.
                God somebody post that webm of channel4 meme about incels.
                >I only diagnosed one person, so I'm not mentally ill 🙂
                try to slip away all you want, but you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice and realize the point I'm making there.
                >You know I can infer your intentions from reading your posts, right? It isn't that complicated lmao
                Yes, but you cannot know if they are correct or not. It's not that you make educated guesses that is wrong, it's that you believe your first guess, that is often self serving in helping you win an argument, is the correct assumption.
                >I believe this wholeheartedly
                I hope you, just like me, are joking.
                >Shitfooting is hardly any better anon. I hate the "muh balance" gays but they're right in this case.
                In your opinion. I disagree.
                >You try to blackpill me,
                What the frick does this even mean. You throw it around like libs throw the word racist, bigot, nazi, facist around.
                The word loses it's meaning and becomes "People I disagree with"
                >Fighting fire with fire actually works so no, I don't have to be better.
                Oh shit, so you are a lib.
                "rules for thee but not for me"
                "there is no such thing as bad methods, only bad targets"
                "It's okay when I do it because I have declared people I disagree with as ontological evil, so nothing I do to them is wrong"
                If you honestly are going to play to that logic, then it's simply a "might makes right" and any tool you can use to win over your enemies, is right and justified.
                In essence you wont care about a single tool, or in this case single moral you claim to uphold, it's all just a thing to conveniently pick up and throw away when it's not winning you the battle.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You shouldn't listen to me because you disagree with me. Not because I'm le hecking evil trying to le IST blackpill you.
                Never said that you're part of some dark cabal that is tracking me wherever I go (or maybe you are?), your post was simply a blackpill that I won't accept
                >try to slip away all you want, but you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice and realize the point I'm making there.
                Can you even spell correctly?
                >you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice
                Removing the double negative
                >you are mentally deficient enough to notice
                Dafaq?
                >I hope you, just like me, are joking.
                Up for you to decide
                >In your opinion. I disagree.
                Okay.
                >What the frick does this even mean. You throw it around like libs throw the word racist, bigot, nazi, facist around.
                >The word loses it's meaning and becomes "People I disagree with"
                Nothing means anything anymore, all abstracts dissolve, and we are left with the concrete. Forgive me for waxing philosophical
                >"rules for thee but not for me"
                You disregarded the rules first, so I will also disregard them. Is there any honor in trying to fight fair against someone who is fighting dirty? Maybe, but you'll end up dead and your cause may die with you. Is that worth it?
                >"there is no such thing as bad methods, only bad targets"
                Yes
                >"It's okay when I do it because I have declared people I disagree with as ontological evil, so nothing I do to them is wrong"
                Yes
                >If you honestly are going to play to that logic, then it's simply a "might makes right" and any tool you can use to win over your enemies, is right and justified.
                Yes
                >In essence you wont care about a single tool, or in this case single moral you claim to uphold, it's all just a thing to conveniently pick up and throw away when it's not winning you the battle.
                Yes

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Never said that you're part of some dark cabal that is tracking me wherever I go (or maybe you are?), your post was simply a blackpill that I won't accept
                What the frick does blackpill even mean. Huh? Whats your definition?
                Negative vibes?
                >Can you even spell correctly?
                Are you ESL?
                >>you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice
                yes, this is correct, if you remove words from it, you will make something illogical.
                If it makes it easier for you to understand replace mentally deficient with something like
                >You are not dumb enough, to not notice the point
                Get it?
                >Dafaq?
                Don't remove words and you wont end up with illogical sentences.
                >Up for you to decide
                Well, I obviously rather not decide what the other person thinks and feels. I much rather ask them and have their own on the matter, what their thoughts and feelings are.
                So, were you joking?
                >You disregarded the rules first, so I will also disregard them.
                This is flawed thinking that I look down upon. I already explained it leads to ridiculous situations where people can brand anybody they don't like as "bad word" then abuse them, because they decided that it's fair for them to do it to the other person, because when you do it it's "Moral and just" when the other person does it it's "evil and should be punished"

                You may think that whats the big deal right? Evil getting punished, righteous doing righteous things? Right?

                Wrong. Through out history, countless amount of people were abused, utterly abused, because one side convinced themselves to be the moral right and thus nothing they did to the wrong side, was wrong.
                Of course, how they arrived at the conclusion that they were right and the enemy was wrong, never bothered them.
                It could be propaganda, lies, misunderstanding, their own selfish agendas, it doesn't matter.
                The end result is people commiting evil, while feeling the absolute emotional high of thinking themselves the hero.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >What the frick does blackpill even mean. Huh? Whats your definition?
                How about this
                >don't even bother getting a big chest, it doesn't look aesthetic anyway, so stop training your chest so much
                What does this sound like?
                >don't even bother lifting, you'll never be aesthetic anyway, so stop lifting
                Hmm I wonder
                >Are you ESL?
                I only speak english, you said that I noticed the point you made because I was unintelligent. The hell is that supposed to mean? Lmao
                >yes, this is correct, if you remove words from it, you will make something illogical.
                No, because you used a double negative. If you remove both negatives it means the same thing. For example
                >you should avoid not eating bananas
                Remove the double negative
                >you should eat bananas
                These mean the exact same thing, both tell you to eat bananas.
                >So, were you joking?
                Sure, if it makes you happy
                >Wrong. Through out history, countless amount of people were abused, utterly abused, because one side convinced themselves to be the moral right and thus nothing they did to the wrong side, was wrong.
                >Of course, how they arrived at the conclusion that they were right and the enemy was wrong, never bothered them.
                >It could be propaganda, lies, misunderstanding, their own selfish agendas, it doesn't matter.
                >The end result is people commiting evil, while feeling the absolute emotional high of thinking themselves the hero.
                The difference is that in this case you're simply using a method of argumentation against me, so I decided to use the same method, and now you're sperging out because apparently I'm not allowed to use the same weapons as you? Dafaq

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >How about this
                >don't even bother getting a big chest, it doesn't look aesthetic anyway, so stop training your chest so much
                >What does this sound like?
                >don't even bother lifting, you'll never be aesthetic anyway, so stop lifting
                >Hmm I wonder
                Interesting....
                So just because somebody says that you shouldn't train your chest to be as big as it is popular today and instead train to the level of a greek statue.
                You take that and twist it multiple times to come out with
                >don't even bother lifting

                Kinda weird that you are so intent on avoiding negativity, yet ironically you conjure up negativity that was never there in the first place.

                Reminds me of that experiment where people had make up put on of a scar and sent to interviews to see how discriminated they are if they are scared.
                Only before they left for the interview they were told they want to touch up the make up just a bit(instead they secretly removed it) so they went to the interview completely fine, normal, as themselves.
                And then were asked about their perceived experience on how much they were discriminated based on the scaring on their face.
                What happened was that the people who believed they had scaring, reported much higher case of discrimination.
                I guess the old "if you look for it, you will see it" kinda applies here. And to you.

                This also brings me back to my very initial feelings on your "muh blackpill, no I will not let the demoralizers get meeee ahhh"

                >No, because you used a double negative.
                Sigh....
                >you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice
                You are not X to not Y
                Notice how the negative pertain to different statements.
                Pic related.

                >Sure, if it makes you happy
                I asked for a clear answer. And you provide a "Well if youuuu want to feel a certain way then you can interpret the answer this way"
                Seems like you aren't talking in good faith.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So just because somebody says that you shouldn't train your chest to be as big as it is popular today and instead train to the level of a greek statue.
                >Kinda weird that you are so intent on avoiding negativity, yet ironically you conjure up negativity that was never there in the first place.
                There are degrees to everything, you're not that far off from those people who say you shouldn't bother with lifting.
                >grammar shit
                The only thing I did wrong is that due to the statement issue, the values were inverted (EG you were unintelligent enough to notice vs you were smart enough to not notice) which is still saying the same thing tbh. Semantics semantics
                >Seems like you aren't talking in good faith.
                Because you aren't either so why should I?

                https://i.imgur.com/NQz29aj.jpg

                >My point is that if, for example, the enemy is gassing the shit out of your troops, why the frick shouldn't you gas them back?
                Well if you think gassing people is horrible and that nobody should be gassed, then you are essentially proving that you don't believe in that at all.
                >Losing to the enemy means your ideals die with you
                And giving up your ideals to win because the only real ideal you value is victory. Means your other ideals die not when your body dies, but the very instant you decide to abandon them.
                Not a problem if you don't give a shit about the ideals you claim to give a shit about.
                Which is my point.
                You don't care about them, you care about winning, thats your ideal. Not the moralistic stuff you tell yourself to make yourself feel good about your actions, or the things you tell yourself to make you think you are a righteous hero. No. Victrory above all else is the thing you actually believe in and it doesn't matter what tools you use to reach it as long as you are standing victorious.
                >while the enemy's ideals live on, which means that they will continue gassing people, so it makes no difference.
                You kill your "enemies" and their ideals live on in you. You gassed them, they were okay with gassing. Their ideals live on even in death. Your ideals were abandoned and dead even before your physical body dies, even before your enemies die.

                >Perhaps I simply hate evil too much, who knows
                Now now, what did I tell you about hating evil. Lot of evil likes to enjoy the luxury of abuse by branding others as evil and deluding itself as the just hero.
                I'm sure this wont come as a surprise to you, but there is plenty of people who can find your values evil, you evil.
                And if at the end of the day all it takes is to call somebody evil and yourself the hero. Everybody can slaughter each other while thinking no, they are the hero
                Pic related
                This curse is nothing new, in fact all you have said is dreadfully too common and blackpilling
                Far more than muh chest

                >Well if you think gassing people is horrible and that nobody should be gassed, then you are essentially proving that you don't believe in that at all.
                >Not a problem if you don't give a shit about the ideals you claim to give a shit about.
                >Which is my point.
                So then you die and the enemy will continue gassing people, or you can defeat them and then you can stop doing it because you have agency? There's a difference- in this hypothetical, the enemy is inherently evil, so they're gassing people for that reason, while if you gassed them back, it would only be a means to an end (IE you're trying to not lose), so after the threat is gone, you go back to normal. Essentially the difference is the intentions and inherent values, one side uses it because of their nature (meaning they WANT to do it), while the other side is only using it as a means to an end and will cease using it once the end is completely. But I suppose you will counter with the fact that you may be corrupted and become inherently evil, so of course this muddles this whole thing up. Who knows really, I can be pursuaded on this one

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You shouldn't listen to me because you disagree with me. Not because I'm le hecking evil trying to le IST blackpill you.
                Never said that you're part of some dark cabal that is tracking me wherever I go (or maybe you are?), your post was simply a blackpill that I won't accept
                >try to slip away all you want, but you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice and realize the point I'm making there.
                Can you even spell correctly?
                >you are not mentally deficient enough to not notice
                Removing the double negative
                >you are mentally deficient enough to notice
                Dafaq?
                >I hope you, just like me, are joking.
                Up for you to decide
                >In your opinion. I disagree.
                Okay.
                >What the frick does this even mean. You throw it around like libs throw the word racist, bigot, nazi, facist around.
                >The word loses it's meaning and becomes "People I disagree with"
                Nothing means anything anymore, all abstracts dissolve, and we are left with the concrete. Forgive me for waxing philosophical
                >"rules for thee but not for me"
                You disregarded the rules first, so I will also disregard them. Is there any honor in trying to fight fair against someone who is fighting dirty? Maybe, but you'll end up dead and your cause may die with you. Is that worth it?
                >"there is no such thing as bad methods, only bad targets"
                Yes
                >"It's okay when I do it because I have declared people I disagree with as ontological evil, so nothing I do to them is wrong"
                Yes
                >If you honestly are going to play to that logic, then it's simply a "might makes right" and any tool you can use to win over your enemies, is right and justified.
                Yes
                >In essence you wont care about a single tool, or in this case single moral you claim to uphold, it's all just a thing to conveniently pick up and throw away when it's not winning you the battle.
                Yes

                to add to that
                "The surest wat to work up a curase in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' --- this is the heigh tof psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats."

                >Maybe, but you'll end up dead and your cause may die with you. Is that worth it?
                The cause, is painted in it's actions, not the end goals.
                If you have to rape a thousand babies to achieve some communist utopia where everybody is happy. It's first not a world I would fight for. Second the utopias, or in this case the reward, is always far off and unattainable.
                How many millions slaughtered and killed for a bright future that was promised that never came.

                >Yes
                >Yes
                >Yes
                >Yes
                Verrry blackpilling anon of you.

                [...]
                >Live, what you preach.
                >Hold on to your morals you claim you care about.
                >Does this actually need to be said these days?
                If you could use evil to destroy all evil in the world, would you?
                >but then you become le heckin evilerino!
                Just have a nice day then, boom evil is now gone. Easy
                >We already covered it, aesthetics are subjective, and thus people can hold different views on it. But one can inspect why they hold said subjective view, what caused them.
                Sure
                >I literally posted multiple examples of what I consider aestetically pleasing modest chest,
                After you finished shitting on big pecs
                >There you go, trying to police my speech because you don't like it.
                Not policing since I can't control what you say, I'm simply telling you that you could have accomplished your goal much better with a different method. Isn't that what you want anyway?
                >Not everybody has a emotional chrisis of faith if I say I don't like big chests anon. Not everything is about you, or them. The universe doesn't revolve around "you".
                Nobody said it was about me, people will simply respond negatively if you attack something they like in a banal way, instead of in a more constructive manner. Human nature and all that.
                >Whatever you say mossad, you are just here to defend big pharma and roids.
                I have not posted anything supporting roiders ITT, I think roidtrannies are disgusting. Next
                >Now does that sound like a reasonable response to you?
                Yes
                >This case of "no u" is cute, but you failed to connect how that relates to me.
                You're still being indirect anon, very womanly trait

                >If you could use evil to destroy all evil in the world, would you?
                No, because I would be the evil of the world then, and this is without a doubt.
                >Just have a nice day then, boom evil is now gone. Easy
                Absolutely none of the brave utopia pushes that kill others in the name of a better tomorrow, ever off themselves afterwards, and neither do they deliver a brighter tomorrow.
                All that is achieved is they got to kill a bunch of people.
                >After you finished shitting on big pecs
                LITERALLY my first post, the OP post has an example of GOOD chest aesthetics.
                >your goal much better with a different method. Isn't that what you want anyway?
                > instead of in a more constructive manner. Human nature and all that.
                Matter of perspective, it's like saying making a meme doesn't stir discussion as well as a well documented scientific study.
                Both have merits and both can be used, your opinion is that it has to be devoid of negativity in any aspect.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >If you have to rape a thousand babies to achieve some communist utopia where everybody is happy. It's first not a world I would fight for. Second the utopias, or in this case the reward, is always far off and unattainable.
                Raping a thousand babies would not get you any closer to a communist utopia which wouldn't be a utopia in the first place. My point is that if, for example, the enemy is gassing the shit out of your troops, why the frick shouldn't you gas them back? Losing to the enemy means your ideals die with you while the enemy's ideals live on, which means that they will continue gassing people, so it makes no difference.
                >How many millions slaughtered and killed for a bright future that was promised that never came.
                Because that future was outright impossible
                >Verrry blackpilling anon of you.
                Perhaps I simply hate evil too much, who knows
                >No, because I would be the evil of the world then, and this is without a doubt.
                So then you intentionally let yourself be defeated by the good. Simple.
                >Absolutely none of the brave utopia pushes that kill others in the name of a better tomorrow, ever off themselves afterwards, and neither do they deliver a brighter tomorrow.
                >All that is achieved is they got to kill a bunch of people.
                Because they were evil to begin with, just as this modern world is also evil to begin with. It was never someone using evil to destroy evil, it was evil people using evil to destroy good.
                >LITERALLY my first post, the OP post has an example of GOOD chest aesthetics.
                Again, look at the thread subject. "Big chests are gay". What are you smoking?
                >Matter of perspective, it's like saying making a meme doesn't stir discussion as well as a well documented scientific study.
                >Both have merits and both can be used, your opinion is that it has to be devoid of negativity in any aspect.
                I'm just saying that you don't have to intentionally piss people off for no reason, this doesn't help anyone at all. You can have constructive negativity.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >My point is that if, for example, the enemy is gassing the shit out of your troops, why the frick shouldn't you gas them back?
                Well if you think gassing people is horrible and that nobody should be gassed, then you are essentially proving that you don't believe in that at all.
                >Losing to the enemy means your ideals die with you
                And giving up your ideals to win because the only real ideal you value is victory. Means your other ideals die not when your body dies, but the very instant you decide to abandon them.
                Not a problem if you don't give a shit about the ideals you claim to give a shit about.
                Which is my point.
                You don't care about them, you care about winning, thats your ideal. Not the moralistic stuff you tell yourself to make yourself feel good about your actions, or the things you tell yourself to make you think you are a righteous hero. No. Victrory above all else is the thing you actually believe in and it doesn't matter what tools you use to reach it as long as you are standing victorious.
                >while the enemy's ideals live on, which means that they will continue gassing people, so it makes no difference.
                You kill your "enemies" and their ideals live on in you. You gassed them, they were okay with gassing. Their ideals live on even in death. Your ideals were abandoned and dead even before your physical body dies, even before your enemies die.

                >Perhaps I simply hate evil too much, who knows
                Now now, what did I tell you about hating evil. Lot of evil likes to enjoy the luxury of abuse by branding others as evil and deluding itself as the just hero.
                I'm sure this wont come as a surprise to you, but there is plenty of people who can find your values evil, you evil.
                And if at the end of the day all it takes is to call somebody evil and yourself the hero. Everybody can slaughter each other while thinking no, they are the hero
                Pic related
                This curse is nothing new, in fact all you have said is dreadfully too common and blackpilling
                Far more than muh chest

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You kill your "enemies" and their ideals live on in you. You gassed them, they were okay with gassing. Their ideals live on even in death. Your ideals were abandoned and dead even before your physical body dies, even before your enemies die.
                So then it's a lose-lose, now what do you do? Evil inherently wins because it can do whatever it wants, while good is highly restricted? I suppose we're headed in that direction anyway
                >You think all the communists, all the slaughter and so on, do you think they though of themselves as evil? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
                >They though of themselves as heroes, doing what is necessary to win over their enemies.
                >Exactly, the mindset you have painted out of yourself so far.
                >The irony is you can't see it because "they are obviously evil and I'm good"
                >Ignoring the fact that every side tells exactly that to themselves. As they justify horrible things, all in the name of good of course, just like you "muh good, I just hate evil"
                >Becoming the evil of somebody else. The cycle continues.
                >Again missing the point that what you call evil, was in their head "good righteous people doing what must be done to save their people and the evil methods they used is justified because if we die, then our ideals die with us"
                >You really don't see it huh? Hah. Or is it... that you don't want to see it?
                Then our hands are tied and we can do nothing, so evil wins anyway. Crap

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So then you intentionally let yourself be defeated by the good. Simple.
                And you intentionally let yourself become evil.
                You slay your enemies, but at the end of the day, you become exactly what you fought to end.
                >Because they were evil to begin with
                You think all the communists, all the slaughter and so on, do you think they though of themselves as evil? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
                They though of themselves as heroes, doing what is necessary to win over their enemies.
                Exactly, the mindset you have painted out of yourself so far.
                The irony is you can't see it because "they are obviously evil and I'm good"
                Ignoring the fact that every side tells exactly that to themselves. As they justify horrible things, all in the name of good of course, just like you "muh good, I just hate evil"
                Becoming the evil of somebody else. The cycle continues.
                > It was never someone using evil to destroy evil, it was evil people using evil to destroy good.
                Again missing the point that what you call evil, was in their head "good righteous people doing what must be done to save their people and the evil methods they used is justified because if we die, then our ideals die with us"
                You really don't see it huh? Hah. Or is it... that you don't want to see it?

                >Again, look at the thread subject. "Big chests are gay". What are you smoking?
                Yes, I'm sure anybody rational understands that doesn't make them actually gay, being sexually attracted to men does. But then again does this really have to be said?
                >I'm just saying that you don't have to intentionally piss people off for no reason
                Not everybody takes it as seriously as you do.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >By that very logic, I can say my opinion is better than your s and you would have literally nothing you could say against that. If you want to be objective about it, you'd have to come up with reasons that exist outside of you and me. Otherwise either side can just proclaim to be right and be equally justified.
                I said that because you did the exact same thing. You didn't make a thread promoting modest chests, you made a thread shitting on big pecs with nothing to back it up besides "I said so". So of course I'm not going to enter a dialogue with you to try to pry out some knowledge, since you're not interested in that in the first place.
                >Well if you payed attention, my objective wasn't to convince anons to abandon their big chesttittys and go for smaller aesthetically pleasing chests. Rather I wanted to see what motivations people have for thinking big chests are good, other than "its popular, everybody is doing it and I saw some big body builder as an impressionable young child"
                You could have done the same thing much better by JUST ASKING?? Are you a fricking woman who needs to be indirect all the time? You could have just asked "Why do you like big pecs, IST?" No, you just have to shit on it instead, and then you wonder why everyone else shits on you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I said that because you did the exact same thing.
                So you are doing the exact same thing you criticize? Isn't that hypocritical? Aren't you supposed to be better?
                >You didn't make a thread promoting modest chests
                Excuse me? I believe I made it as clear as possible that I prefer more modest chests and gave clear examples of what I find good and what I find over the top manbreasts.
                >you made a thread shitting on big pecs with nothing to back it up besides "I said so".
                Well think about it, aesthetics are purely subjective. And I did bring up aesthetics.
                If you'd want to talk about something more objectively, you'd have to delve into the realm of how does a big chest benefit or limit you, physically. And that has nothing to do with aesthetics.
                >So of course I'm not going to enter a dialogue with you to try to pry out some knowledge
                Eh, that's your choice and your character. Remember other people don't control what you do.
                > since you're not interested in that in the first place.
                Hubris to assume to know what others want with so little info.
                >You could have done the same thing much better by JUST ASKING??
                I could, but at the same time I assume that most fit posters won't have a meltdown form somebody having a different opinion than them. I expect them to be chads that drop in, post their unfiltered opinion, maybe bant about it, post some images and devolve into discussion.
                > No, you just have to shit on it instead
                Again, not afraid of hurting somebodys feelings or triggering somebody. Only adults should be posting here and they should be able to handle a different opinion. The level of melty or civility is kinda up to people. To assume I have full control of peoples actions would imply they have no agency.
                >and then you wonder why everyone else shits on you.
                Where did I wonder that? Can you point that you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Well think about it, aesthetics are purely subjective. And I did bring up aesthetics.
                >If you'd want to talk about something more objectively, you'd have to delve into the realm of how does a big chest benefit or limit you, physically. And that has nothing to do with aesthetics.
                So? You can still make a thread saying "I like modest pecs. Post modest pecs" or "Why do you like big pecs over modest pecs?" or something along those lines. Again, pre-emptively pissing people off does nothing to benefit your argument, it just causes shit like this to happen.
                >Eh, that's your choice and your character. Remember other people don't control what you do.
                Sure
                >Hubris to assume to know what others want with so little info.
                Again, I can tell from all your replies in this thread. You would post in a different manner your intentions were different.
                >I could, but at the same time I assume that most fit posters won't have a meltdown form somebody having a different opinion than them. I expect them to be chads that drop in, post their unfiltered opinion, maybe bant about it, post some images and devolve into discussion.
                So you're essentially a woman, since that's the same shit they do. There's no harm in being direct anon, you don't want to pussyfoot, right?
                >Again, not afraid of hurting somebodys feelings or triggering somebody. Only adults should be posting here and they should be able to handle a different opinion. The level of melty or civility is kinda up to people. To assume I have full control of peoples actions would imply they have no agency.
                That's not the point, the point is that it simply turns it into a shitflinging mudpile with no productive discussion. Starting a thread where you just shit on something because you don't like it will simply result in other people shitting on what you like simply because they don't like it. I highly doubt anyone in this thread is actually offended over your opinion, they're simply mirroring you. That's all.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >That's not the point, the point is that it simply turns it into a shitflinging mudpile with no productive discussion.
                Entirely depends on who posts.
                It takes two to tango and the same starter post will yield different results depending on the mindset of the ones who reply.

                >Where did I wonder that? Can you point that you?
                When you started diagnosing everyone else with mental illnesses to cope over everyone shitting on you.

                >When you started diagnosing everyone else with mental illnesses to cope over everyone shitting on you.
                Oh so just something you invented in your head.
                Boy, beating strawmen in your head and their arguments is sure easy when you can stick on your made up shit on them, then proceed to attack it.

                https://i.imgur.com/5DVPb5r.png

                If you attractive chest maxing you aren't going to make it.

                this is a perfect example of manbreasts that I find disgusting.

                >Big chests are gay
                >These statues by confirmed homosexuals should be the ideal
                Lol

                >confirmed gay
                uuuuuuhuh....

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >It takes two to tango and the same starter post will yield different results depending on the mindset of the ones who reply.
                Sure, but it skews the probabilities of the thread turning into a shitflinging mudpile.
                >Oh so just something you invented in your head.
                You literally accused me of having a persecution complex, do you have alzheimers? Dafaq

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Where did I wonder that? Can you point that you?
                When you started diagnosing everyone else with mental illnesses to cope over everyone shitting on you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >So don't be surprised when people shit on you for having a shit opinion. If someone made a thread saying "I like eating shit and drinking piss and eating cum, you guys should do it too" of course people would shit on him
                See funny thing is that you just explained how lowly you think of having a smaller chest, that it's like eating shit and drinking piss.
                But the moment I told I don't like man breasts, you freak out.
                Don't be a hypocrite anon.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And going back to this,
                >Yes, that is my opinion, sissy. Got a problem with other people having a different opinion than you?
                >My honest opinion is big pecs look like shit. I'm not going to lie to your face and tell you I find them aesthetically pleasing.
                >You are going to have to grow up and accept the fact that not everybody is going to have the same opinion, that people can genuinely hold different opinions.
                You do not have to go and shit on the alternative to say that you like something. As a ring dip chad, when I make a thread about ring dips, I don't open the thread with
                >FRICK BARBELL BENCH
                >FRICK DUMBBELL BENCH
                >FRICK MACHINE CHEST PRESS
                >FRICK CABLE FLYES
                >WEIGHTED RING DIPS GOOD
                I simply list the benefits of ring dips instead. This is what I posted awhile ago, verbatim
                your chest and tris huge
                your pecs and shoulders flexible for free
                your shoulders bulletproof
                dyels and fatties
                >Kneel.
                Notice how I didn't shit on any other chest exercises? That's the difference.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You do not have to go and shit on the alternative to say that you like something.
                Only if you are a pussy that is afraid of hurting other peoples feelings and can't stand with other people disagreeing with him.
                Which sounds like you are.
                If you like rings, and you clearly like them over everything else, there must be a reason for it, is it a good reason, if it is, why be soft about it.
                List the things you like about it and, AND the things you hate about other things that aren't present in your ring dips.
                Life is more than just comparring the positives of things. The negatives are also part of the equation and are present in almost all things.
                But because you want to be as soft as possible you remove half of the equation and want to discuss only the things nobody will get offended about.
                dyels and fatties
                Is that what you actually said, or are you throwing it in here just for my benefit?
                >Notice how I didn't shit on any other chest exercises?
                dyels and fatties
                Notice how the implication is that other things don't filter fatties and dyels, so other chest exercises are done by dyels and fatties by your logic.
                So what, you telling me you aren't even aware of when you are provocative/insulting/putting something else down?
                Wouldn't that be a fricking cherry on the top.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Only if you are a pussy that is afraid of hurting other peoples feelings and can't stand with other people disagreeing with him.
                >Which sounds like you are.
                >If you like rings, and you clearly like them over everything else, there must be a reason for it, is it a good reason, if it is, why be soft about it.
                >List the things you like about it and, AND the things you hate about other things that aren't present in your ring dips.
                >Life is more than just comparring the positives of things. The negatives are also part of the equation and are present in almost all things.
                >But because you want to be as soft as possible you remove half of the equation and want to discuss only the things nobody will get offended about.
                Because what you don't understand is that 1: I want to discuss the thing I'm talking about, in this case being ring dips and 2: The post is a CHALLENGE. I say "X thing is GOOD", so then other people come in saying "NO, Y thing is BETTER" and then I have to defend myself, and we have a dialogue weighing the benefits and drawbacks between X and Y. This is how it should be done, you don't need to pre-emptively shit on everyone else first, that just makes people angry and then you don't get any useful discussion.
                >Notice how the implication is that other things don't filter fatties and dyels, so other chest exercises are done by dyels and fatties by your logic.
                The point is that the exercise requires a baseline level of strength and low bodyfat that filters those populations, not that every other exercise is performed by weaklings and obese fricks. You wouldn't understand that of course, since you don't even lift.
                >So what, you telling me you aren't even aware of when you are provocative/insulting/putting something else down?
                If you see someone doing ring dips, they instantly have your respect due to the factors I listed previously. It's that simple.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Because what you don't understand is that 1: I want to discuss the thing I'm talking about, in this case being ring dips and 2: The post is a CHALLENGE. I say "X thing is GOOD", so then other people come in saying "NO, Y thing is BETTER" and then I have to defend myself,
                Okay, how is posting Modest chest is Good and big mantitts are not. Not a challenge? Where people can also engage on both fronts why one is good or the other is bad?
                >This is how it should be done, you don't need to pre-emptively shit on everyone else first, that just makes people angry and then you don't get any useful discussion.
                Did people really get angry at a poster saying big many breasts bad?
                Really? Mad so easily?
                >The point is that the exercise requires a baseline level of strength and low bodyfat that filters those populations, not that every other exercise is performed by weaklings and obese fricks.
                But you are saying, implying, that fat and people with no baseline strength could do the other excersises, while they can't do the ring dips.
                Which leads to: Only people who do ring dips are guaranteed to be not fat or dyel.
                Which leads to: IF you are doing other excersises you could be fat or dyel.
                etc. etc.
                It's a subtle way to imply somebody is dyel and fat.
                Kinda like a woman, when they want to insult you, don't outright say you are a c**t, they instead make implications they can play off.
                Now you can say that you didn't mean to make that implication, but at the same time you could have meant to, and the "trick" is that you can play either side without people being able to call you out
                >You wouldn't understand that of course, since you don't even lift.
                You do this in every post, making things up in your mind and then attaching them to me. Does this mentalyl help you fight this persona you made up in your head?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay, how is posting Modest chest is Good and big mantitts are not. Not a challenge? Where people can also engage on both fronts why one is good or the other is bad?
                You know that other people have their own opinions too, right? You don't need to strawman someone else's opinion just to cause a dichotomy, just wait 5 minutes for people to reply and you'll get one.
                >Really? Mad so easily?
                In 5 minutes they won't be mad but you'll still be moronic
                >Which leads to: IF you are doing other excersises you could be fat or dyel.
                Is it wrong?
                >Kinda like a woman, when they want to insult you, don't outright say you are a c**t, they instead make implications they can play off.
                Women aren't interested in the truth, therefore my assertation in that thread is not woman-tier since it was an entirely factual statement. Simple as
                >You do this in every post, making things up in your mind and then attaching them to me. Does this mentalyl help you fight this persona you made up in your head?
                Yes actually, why not? If you can declare me mentally ill I can declare you to be dyel, it goes both ways.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You know that other people have their own opinions too, right?
                Yes, and they share them here. Whats your problem with that?
                >You don't need to strawman someone else's opinion just to cause a dichotomy,
                homie you have been adding a line of your own made up headcannon about my motivations in multiple posts.
                Again, follow what you preach.
                >In 5 minutes they won't be mad but you'll still be moronic
                I don't think they are mad at all, well except you.
                >Women aren't interested in the truth
                Neither are you?
                >therefore my assertation in that thread is not woman-tier since it was an entirely factual statement.
                Statement that homosexuals like big chest on their men is also factual. What now?
                >Yes actually, why not? If you can declare me mentally ill I can declare you to be dyel, it goes both ways.
                Well then it just means you don't really care about anything other than winning and your only objective is to squirm around until you find a tool that works for the job, and discard it the moment it becomes an inconvenience. So you have no conviction or loyalty to the ideals you preach.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes, and they share them here. Whats your problem with that?
                The point is that you don't need to invent opinions diametrically opposed to yours before strawmanning them, people don't like that. Literally just wait 5 minutes for people with different opinions to start disagreeing with you lol
                >homie you have been adding a line of your own made up headcannon about my motivations in multiple posts.
                tl;dr: if I tell him he's delusional he'll believe me
                No.
                >I don't think they are mad at all, well except you.
                I dunno, this is just funny to me tbh
                >Neither are you?
                You're the one who set up this thread in such a way that the probability of it being a shitflinging mudpile was near 100%. The frick are you talking about? I've learnt quite a lot from making threads set up in a way that the probability of getting good discussion was fairly high, and my training has benefitted from it greatly.
                >Statement that homosexuals like big chest on their men is also factual. What now?
                homosexuals also like twinks with flat chests, now what? Do we just get rid of our pecs entirely? Lmao
                >Well then it just means you don't really care about anything other than winning and your only objective is to squirm around until you find a tool that works for the job, and discard it the moment it becomes an inconvenience. So you have no conviction or loyalty to the ideals you preach.
                Because none of it fricking matters if you lose, your ideals die with you. And besides this, then by this logic you have no conviction or loyalty either since you started with that shit first.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >tl;dr: if I tell him he's delusional he'll believe me
                There you go again, making stuff up, pinning it on me.
                >I dunno, this is just funny to me tbh
                So you are talking to me in these multiposts because it's "funny" and possibly fun for you?

                >homosexuals also like twinks with flat chests, now what?
                Not from the impression of homosexuals I got. homosexuals apparently like big titty on a man. Not that there isn't exceptions.
                >Because none of it fricking matters if you lose, your ideals die with you.
                See the funny thing is you think, your ideals survive if you just win.
                But here is the kicker you don't want to perceive. Your ideals die the moment you give them up just to win.
                So even if your physical body survives and your enemies are dead. Your ideals died the moment you decided they were okay to put down for the time.
                All that survives is might makes right.
                And in might makes right, it's anybody that is powerful enough to dominate, kill, subjucate the other, is king, the best, the only one that deserves to be and flourish.
                All others are just weaklings that deserve horrible things happen to them.
                That is the world you are fighting for, that's the world you are protecting.
                Not some utopida or right and good.
                >And besides this, then by this logic you have no conviction or loyalty either since you started with that shit first.
                Wrong again moron. MY ideals, never said I have to be polite and non confrontational. It's your ideals.
                If I don't uphold your ideals then that's fine. If you don't uphold your ideals then they don't exist, a empty word.
                It's like an angel telling the devil that they don't see why they shoulnd't be allowed to rape babies.
                At that point the title of "angel" comes into question heavily.

                By the way, just so you know my stance. I think moral consistency is better than hypocrisy.
                If you are an honest killer, you are a better person, who is a killer, but also likes to dress themselves up as a morally good person. Killer and a liar to boot, thus worse.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >There you go again, making stuff up, pinning it on me.
                Gaslighting isn't gonna work on me bucko
                >So you are talking to me in these multiposts because it's "funny" and possibly fun for you?
                Yes actually
                >Not from the impression of homosexuals I got. homosexuals apparently like big titty on a man. Not that there isn't exceptions.
                It's both, so where do we go with this?
                >See the funny thing is you think, your ideals survive if you just win.
                >But here is the kicker you don't want to perceive. Your ideals die the moment you give them up just to win.
                >So even if your physical body survives and your enemies are dead. Your ideals died the moment you decided they were okay to put down for the time.
                So then your ideals die either way, but in one instance you live and in the other you die. What would be your choice? At least if you live you can let yourself perish at the hands of others who possessed your prior ideals, so that they can still be implemented.
                >All that survives is might makes right.
                >And in might makes right, it's anybody that is powerful enough to dominate, kill, subjucate the other, is king, the best, the only one that deserves to be and flourish.
                >All others are just weaklings that deserve horrible things happen to them.
                >That is the world you are fighting for, that's the world you are protecting.
                In our world, people don't even fight for what they believe in. It's still might makes right, except the puppets go out to battle, fighting for things they don't believe in while the elite stay behind closed doors, not lifting a finger to fight for what they believe in. People live with chains that they can't see and fight for ideals that they don't understand while believing that they are "free." Is this any better? Perhaps it isn't so physical now, but chains of steel are long outdated in favor of mental chains. People are still subjugated whether you like it or not.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Yes actually
                So you are indeed, not upset, mad, bothered by my OP.

                Congrats, you have just destroyed your own argument across this entire thread. Your original complaint was that the OP will make people mad unnecessarily and that I should instead phrase it with positivity and avoid negativity.
                Now you say that yourself derive entertainment and and enjoyment from this thread.

                So.... You literally in the end, just say my thread is good and the methods used were good.

                You know, I'd be satisfied with you conceding this point, and me "winning" But after this extended chat, it seems you don't really hold any values. So it's entirely hollow and pointless.
                I feel no accomplishment, for I beat nothing. I feel no enlightenment for I couldn't learn from nothing.
                I can only hope that somebody that happens to pass by on these posts, gains some food for thought at best.

                In any case I won't read or reply to your stuff further partially because of time constraints, but mostly because if everything you said so far if genuine, your values or lack of there of are deplorable. And if it wasn't genuine and all of this was just a jest, a shitpost if you will, then I'm dealing with "nothing", somebody that doesn't really put out their ideas and values out there, a schizo interacting from the safety of their made up projections. None of which represent him.
                So in this I guess, in either scenario one thing aligns.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Congrats, you have just destroyed your own argument across this entire thread. Your original complaint was that the OP will make people mad unnecessarily and that I should instead phrase it with positivity and avoid negativity.
                >Now you say that yourself derive entertainment and and enjoyment from this thread.
                Keyword is "people." Not myself, I prefer to view things from a detached point of view, and besides, I think after post 80ish? the conversation became more interesting. Before then it was just dumb shitflinging.
                >So.... You literally in the end, just say my thread is good and the methods used were good.
                Because we somehow went from talking about pecs to talking about abstract ideals and values. That interests me much more lol, so yes we did escape the shitflinging and turned it into a dialogue that may extract knowledge. Good job to both of us I suppose
                >You know, I'd be satisfied with you conceding this point, and me "winning" But after this extended chat, it seems you don't really hold any values. So it's entirely hollow and pointless.
                Probably because I hold very few abstract values, but those few I hold onto dearly, which can seem like there is nothing there at all. Might simply be your point of view
                >In any case I won't read or reply to your stuff further partially because of time constraints
                Sure
                >somebody that doesn't really put out their ideas and values out there, a schizo interacting from the safety of their made up projections. None of which represent him.
                This can still be of value, since it allows you to explore values that do not belong to yourself, both on the offensive and defensive sides of things.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Wrong again moron. MY ideals, never said I have to be polite and non confrontational. It's your ideals.
                >If I don't uphold your ideals then that's fine. If you don't uphold your ideals then they don't exist, a empty word.
                >It's like an angel telling the devil that they don't see why they shoulnd't be allowed to rape babies.
                >At that point the title of "angel" comes into question heavily.
                >By the way, just so you know my stance. I think moral consistency is better than hypocrisy.
                >If you are an honest killer, you are a better person, who is a killer, but also likes to dress themselves up as a morally good person. Killer and a liar to boot, thus worse.
                Hold on, when did I ever say that I wasn't upholding my ideals?
                >other stuff earlier this thread
                No conflict, while I believe that those methods are the best way to achieve a higher truth, that may not necessarily be what I'm going for here, so there is no conflict.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Moreover, going back to this post
                >Imagine enjoying vannila chocolate icecream and somebody says vanilla is better and you thinking it's not because they genuinely like vannilla icecream but because it's all a ploy to mentally break you down
                What's actually happening here is that I'm walking around eating some chocolate icecream, then you come around eating vanilla icecream while screaming
                >CHOCOLATE ICECREAM IS SHIT
                >VANILLACHADS RULE
                >WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU EAT CHOCOLATE ICECREAM? VANILLA IS BETTER YOU DUMB SISSY
                Two entirely different things.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I like this example more.
                Well imagine that everybody is eating chocolate icecream, all you see on tv is chololate icecream.
                Here you are eating vannilla and thinking, damn, this stuff is better than chocolate icecream, but why does almost nobody else eat vannilla these days, would they, in a vacuum, given the two choices choose chololate over vannila icecream as often as we see the distribution right now?
                Hmm lets go see what people have to say about it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Hmm lets go see what people have to say about it.
                If you were actually interested in this you would say "Why do you like chocolate icecream? Is there a reason why you prefer it over vanilla?" Instead you sperg out and say "FRICK CHOCOLATE ICECREAM, VANILLA IS THE BEST, YOU'RE ALL STUPID gayS I AM SO VERY ENLIGHTENED FRICK YOU ALL"

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Demoralizationposters don't all sit in a discord conducting gay ops (though they do that too): it's a spirit, a mindset, a way of being. Flat pecs look better, and I wish that the ideal standards of pecs would return to the Bronze Age and hellenic ideal. Even Silver Era bodybuilders, who often had very juicy chests, would still intentionally underdevelop their lower pecs in favour of the upper to create a specific look (picrel). However, you are still a collosal homosexual, embodying the spirit of the eternal /LULZ/ tourist. The desire to create division is simply of a lower spirit. I can hold these opinions without needing to have gay spats with other anons. I've noticed you never posted body.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Demoralizationposters don't all sit in a discord conducting gay ops (though they do that too): it's a spirit, a mindset, a way of being.
              You are the male equivalent of a hyper sensitive woman who says "positive vibes only"
              > The desire to create division is simply of a lower spirit.
              And you aren't creating division by branding anybody that doesn't fricking subscribe to your ideals as the enemy tribe called demoralizers.
              > I can hold these opinions without needing to have gay spats with other anons.
              You are literally, literally having a gay spat with me right now over your dumb religion.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >And you aren't creating division by branding anybody that doesn't fricking subscribe to your ideals as the enemy tribe called demoralizers.
                Yes. Another anon put it perfectly here:
                >Because you keep making threads shitting on big pecs? Look at the thread subject: "Big chests are gay", instead of something like "Modest pecs look aesthetic." You're not going "I like modest chests", you're saying "BIG PECS ARE SHIT"
                I knew I hit it on the head when I called you a demoralizer. All the things you've been called in this thread: DYEL, homosexual, sour grapes, chestlet, it all runs off you like water off a raincoat. But I call you a demoralizer and watch at how you recoils, how injured you are, how you suddenly shrink back: "I've been found out". You deserve no respect. Suffer not the demoralizer to live, strike him down wherever you find him.
                YOU STILL HAVEN'T POSTED BODY.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I knew I hit it on the head when I called you a demoralizer.
                Tell me a single reason you don't fit your own definition of "demoralizer" when you shit on people who like a smaller more modest chest like on greek statues vs the bloated man breasts on bodybuilders of today.
                You can't.
                >All the things you've been called in this thread: DYEL, homosexual, sour grapes, chestlet, it all runs off you like water off a raincoat. But I call you a demoralizer and watch at how you recoils, how injured you are, how you suddenly shrink back: "I've been found out". You deserve no respect. Suffer not the demoralizer to live, strike him down wherever you find him.
                Nazi larp, how original. Quick check, tell me your stance on israelites and blacks.
                >YOU STILL HAVEN'T POSTED BODY.
                Because you are trying to weasel your way out of a discussion by attacking the person who has an opinion you disagree with.
                Rather than address the point of the discussion, cwhich is small chest vs big chest.
                You aren't interested in aestetics because you can clearly see examples posted of bronze age body builders.
                You want to brush it away with sour grapes because "if you dont like it clearly it's because you don't have it", which instantly gets broken down with the fact that statues can be made any shape and size, yet they were chosen to be of those dimensions which are pleasing. Same can be said about the bronze age body builders like Eugene that chose for it too look like that.
                But that obviously doesn't give you the way out you are squirming for, so you dig deeper, you want to see my body specifically so you can attack it and hope you can win that way instead.

                https://i.imgur.com/L9pFYXm.jpg

                >hercules
                >small chest
                This fricking guy.

                Small in comparrison to modern day mindset of what a big chest should be like.
                Thats the entire bloody point.
                I think Hercules chest is big enough, and aesthetically pleasing.
                Modern day roidtrannies disagree, look at the thread and see for yourself how many of them think it's not big enough.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Those are not flat pecs

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >How does it feel living with a persecution complex?
            Read this https://news.gab.com/2023/02/martyrdom-in-trashworld/

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              So it's literally religious people needing to feel important and fighting against the big bad, so they invent shit in their head then act like they are heroically overcoming it. Figures.
              Why don't these people actually do something in the real world instead, too much effort?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you think that’s flat, you don’t lift. Pec insertions vary greatly. At the very least we know the ancients has some form of OHP and some other movement for the lower pec

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        its flat compared to bodybuilders and fitness models. but yeah for like an athlete thats normal

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bronze Age fetishists who spam gay pictures all day and Jason Blaha say bench pressing is gay. Time to knock a hole in my wall doing heavy standing pressing. Laying on your back is gay!

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When I was a fatty all I ever wanted was to not have moobs. Then when I started lifting I noticed that everyone was obsessed about massive chests that are basically man breasts just made of muscle.
    I've never done bench press and never intend to do it. Weighed push-ups are more than enough stimulus to give a nice toned look

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    kek it’s like guys with small penises coping that it’s more aesthetic. chest development is genetic and if you could grow a bigger one you would

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >kek it’s like guys with small penises coping that it’s more aesthetic
      patient seems to think that small chest is equal to small penis, likely compensating for his manhood. Tell me about your mother.
      >chest development is genetic and if you could grow a bigger one you would
      Then why do people lift at all then, if it's all "genetic" as you say. Almost as if your workouts dictate the size and shape by a huge factor, hmmm?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        kek small penis alert. don’t go all Freud on me with your insecure projections. a genetic failure like yourself could do all the chest exercises in the world and have nutrition on point for growth but could still have a weak chest because your parents are subpar pathetic excuses for human beings and your lineage should have ended centuries ago

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          really makes me think how can a man who wastes time on making threads like this looks like

          DYEL posters needing to feel a sense of superiority for their subpar genetics or lack of muscle gaining

          post body, more specifically post chest that you find aesthetically pleasing.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You two have shit up this whole thread with your argument and nobody even posted body. Just post an image that illustrates your point and call the guy you disagree with a homosexual and move on.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Can you two stfu and train chest

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What a moronic fricking thread.

    Big pecs, small pecs, medium pecs can all be aesthetic in their own right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I prefer clear distinctions between things. Something is better something is worse.
      If all things can be equal and same, they lose their meaning.
      Just the same way the word "woman" is losing it's meaning when men and trannies are added to its meaning.

      I'm inclined to disagree but I just realized I row more than I bench, so you're 100% right OP, chest is for homos.

      Like, a man cannot have too big a back. A bigger back just makes them look manly.
      But that is not the same for chest, a chest, past a certain point looks unappealing on a man, it starts to imitate women, who have a big chest.
      I prefer a clear distinction between men and women.
      A man with a flat, but developed chest. A woman with a big chest.
      A man with wide shoulders and a big back.
      A woman with modest or small back.
      Biiig hips on a woman. etc etc

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >But that is not the same for chest, a chest, past a certain point looks unappealing on a man, it starts to imitate women, who have a big chest.
        Man if you confuse big pecs with big breasts, I have bad news for you. And either way, as you said aesthetics is very subjective. Some people want slim legs, meanwhile I want the biggest tree trunks around. Both are valid, and we can debate the benefits and drawbacks, but saying "X group is not allowed to have a large Y bodypart " is just schizo

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Big talk. But what do you look like?

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm inclined to disagree but I just realized I row more than I bench, so you're 100% right OP, chest is for homos.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    these 2 homies really arguing in a Tajikistani Yak breeding forum

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      and this, is to be autistic even further beyond
      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If you attractive chest maxing you aren't going to make it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is top .1% chest fat genetics.
      If this guy was born a girl he would have been a titcow.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Big chests are gay
    >These statues by confirmed homosexuals should be the ideal
    Lol

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    really makes me think how can a man who wastes time on making threads like this looks like

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      DYEL posters needing to feel a sense of superiority for their subpar genetics or lack of muscle gaining

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >muh Greek statues
    You homosexuals are actually unbelievably gay. If you want to be like Socrates or Seneca then have a nice day.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >still calling things "gay" in 2023

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Should I have used "homosexuals" instead?

      https://i.imgur.com/WTlHuVj.png

      Greek statues are my ideal but you coping chestlets make me embarassed to be associated with you

      >coping chestlests
      And the source of thine divine inspiration? Was it revealed to you in a dream?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the source of thine divine inspiration?
        Thymos.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Greek statues are my ideal but you coping chestlets make me embarassed to be associated with you

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Live, what you preach.
    >Hold on to your morals you claim you care about.
    >Does this actually need to be said these days?
    If you could use evil to destroy all evil in the world, would you?
    >but then you become le heckin evilerino!
    Just have a nice day then, boom evil is now gone. Easy
    >We already covered it, aesthetics are subjective, and thus people can hold different views on it. But one can inspect why they hold said subjective view, what caused them.
    Sure
    >I literally posted multiple examples of what I consider aestetically pleasing modest chest,
    After you finished shitting on big pecs
    >There you go, trying to police my speech because you don't like it.
    Not policing since I can't control what you say, I'm simply telling you that you could have accomplished your goal much better with a different method. Isn't that what you want anyway?
    >Not everybody has a emotional chrisis of faith if I say I don't like big chests anon. Not everything is about you, or them. The universe doesn't revolve around "you".
    Nobody said it was about me, people will simply respond negatively if you attack something they like in a banal way, instead of in a more constructive manner. Human nature and all that.
    >Whatever you say mossad, you are just here to defend big pharma and roids.
    I have not posted anything supporting roiders ITT, I think roidtrannies are disgusting. Next
    >Now does that sound like a reasonable response to you?
    Yes
    >This case of "no u" is cute, but you failed to connect how that relates to me.
    You're still being indirect anon, very womanly trait

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >a “”””””straight””””” man giving advice on how other men should look and how the male aesthetic should be
    you are a closeted homosexual

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >you are a closeted homosexual
      Not true! You mom can attest to that in full detail

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You will never be that big without steroids

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You kidding right? Why do you think that's not achievable?

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    funny part 99% of you dont like any of the picrels. If we all were even approaching greek levels of body composition, none of us would give any fricks about how big our chest way unless it was a preference

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I agree to be honest. Though, once you drop to a lean level, your chest probably won't look as big as you think. But I find the fitness influencers with their giant chests look like complete fricking weirdos. They can bench 2-3 plates for reps though.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Ancient greek statues and bronze age lifting produced the most aesthetically pleasing physiques
    We get it here homosexual wants to be fricked by Greek dudes, there's no reason to make a thread about it.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Please tell me these walls of text are just two AI going at it and there's not actually two guys spending this amount of time arguing on a Philippine boot making forum.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >two AI going at it
      We’re almost there.
      Though not true AI, but the sophisticated predictive text/search aggregator mechanisms like ChatGPT.
      I can see that happening very soon.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm so sorry but I can in fact confirm 100% it's not two AIs, it's real people. No doubt about it.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong, silver era bodybuilders are the most aesthetic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He was not a bodybuilder

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I started with the normal bench press routine of bodybuilding to build bigger chest. The thing is, Bronze Age lifters haven't yet developed proper chest exercises and the bench press have just been invented. Even the inventor of the bench press didn't have a big chest himself. When you move to the Silver Age the lifters already had the bench press and the knowledge in bodybuilding established during the experimental Bronze Age and they inevitably grew their chest. Bigger pecs is unfortunately (from my own aesthetic pov) inevitable and gym goers will want to see a bigger chest as a sign of progress. This return to a Hellenic ideal is not optimal however we can all still appreciate an alternative to the bigger pec physique. Shit is subjective.

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