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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mike O'Hearn is the only man who looks better at 50 than he did in his 20s and 30s.
    Those duckeggs are powerful stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tbh it's impressive how good his skin looks for an old roider
      the skin of most roiders looks like a used leather sofa at a highway hostel

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's because he's natty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How do you think the Golden Era guys did it? He's probably using small cycles like they did, that's how you get the best look combined with good genetic response. You don't blast fricking as much toxic cattle substance as possible like modern bodybuilders. Lowest effective dose, using the steroids like a medication is how you make it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This

          tbh it's impressive how good his skin looks for an old roider
          the skin of most roiders looks like a used leather sofa at a highway hostel

          Nowadays most people do 500mg of test as their 1st cycle, which is insane. I read in the past that a good first cycle started with 2 weeks at 125mg. Then the next 2 weeks at 150mg than finishing off their cycle at 175mg.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            as if taking a substance with the worst anabolic to androgenic ratio as the main muscle builder wasn't moronic enough, but this is what the reddit echochamber and all the moronic tourists here recommend without question, because it's written the holy reddit wiki

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >125mg test cycle

            morons actually believe this

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >roider
        Dude hes natty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        take DHT blockers
        avoid DHT-derivative steroids
        use body lotion
        hope for the best

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >take DHT blockers
          can somebody link a good study on the effect of DHT on skin aging?
          I keep hearing this without good sources so I decided to read how androgens affect skin in general, posting notes here in case others find it useful:

          > women on hormone therapy (female version of TRT) had a skin collagen content that was 48% higher than women not on HT
          https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0015028205010277#bib3

          >male darmis is much thicker
          >female epidermis and subcutaneous tissue are thicker
          >skin 40% thicker in the male
          >ovary removal decreases epidermal thickness by 40%, increases dermal thickness
          >T increases angiogenesis in human skin
          https://sci-hub.se/10.1097/MED.0b013e32832b71dc

          >administration of DHT seems to delay skin barrier formation. Estrogen has the opposite effect
          >skin barrier recovery rates of men on TRT were best when T was lowest, worst when T was highest

          DHT seems to boost collagen production during wound healing, pic from this study:
          https://sci-hub.se/10.3390/ijms21176231

          DHT and collagen in general
          >DHT significantly increases production of collagen released in the culture medium
          >DHT does not modify basal collagen synthesis ???
          https://www.nature.com/articles/pr19842389

          this study suggest a DHT treatment to increase collagen
          https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315409452_Stabilizing_effect_of_EDCNHS_and_DHT_crosslinking_on_the_properties_of_collagenhydroxyapatite_scaffolds

          DHT and the extra cellular matrix
          > We determine that the ECM and DHT interact in complex ways to effect cell structure and function. DHT produced alterations in cytoplasmic structure that increased cell size and decreased the nuclear area/cytoplasmic area ratio
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1371008/

          Then this study says DHT increased elastin 300% but decreased collagen 45%
          https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-protein-levels-of-collagen-I-fibronectin-and-elastin-in-WPMY-1-cells-treated-with_fig3_357990653

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            tl;dr seems to be that DHT boosts collagen but inhibits elastin, but some studies show the exact opposite

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this guy goes through a list of studies on DHT and skin aging and he put the sources in the description, but some of them are behind a paywall

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks, hopefully sci-hub will work for the paywalled shit

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it's really funny, 80% of the video is the exact same studies I looked at. Really disappointing, so many people repeat the DHT -> skin thing with no real data on it
              both DHT and T increase collagen production, but no conclusive study on if and how DHT damages skin
              The one thing that does make sense is that TRT cites improved skin
              >T -> more collagen production.
              Similarly hormone replaccement therapy for women also shows improved skin
              >Estrogen -> elastin.
              DHT inhibitors do increase T, estradiol and estrone by 10-15% so you're getting more T and estrogen while on fin / dut
              It could be that DHT doesn't do much to the skin, but more T and Estrogen -> better skin. Also more estrogen -> thicker epidermis and more elastin. Ofc estogens also have many not so great effects on men, but I'm looking at skin here

              There is conclusive evidence that DHT slows skin wound healing, even though it increases collagen prod in the wound it slows down the formation of skin on the edges of the wound

              there's 1 mice study that shows DHT decreases elastin producction in veins & arteries (not skin) while estrogen has the opposite effect, and DHT increases collagen in veins, but again thats mice not humans. This is the best data we have on DHT -> elastin afaik

              the haircafe guy hypothesizes that DHT could affect healing from UV sun damage as it's a type of wound, but again no studies on that even in mice

              pic related is a mexican study of a topical cream somewhat similar to 200x weaker dutasteride (not fin, cuz it has no type 1 blocking) which improved skin of old men after 60 days if you believe them. There are similar estrogen creams that claim results but again these are studies performed by the companies selling these creams so who knows

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also more estrogen -> thicker epidermis and more elastin. Ofc estogens also have many not so great effects on men, but I'm looking at skin here
                there's a topical estrogen, alfatradiol (brand name pantostin), which is inactive systemically. it's intended as an antiandrogen for slowing down hairloss (it's pretty weak compared to e.g. RU58841), but maybe could also be beneficial for the skin

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah there are cosmetic topical estrogen creams for skin that does make sense as there are many studies on estrogen -> elastin
                https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8876303/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/iPuS5ej.png

      >big muscles won't last forev-AAACK

      NO NO NO NO MEN MUST AGE BADLY REEEE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even with roiding for decades it's very impressive. We must learn his secrets.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mike is natty but you are brown so when a white man isfitall thebrowncels vlaim roids kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go back to the trash mountain pajeet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am O'hearns age. Almost exactly. I too started lifting in the 80s and kept it up into the 90s, 2000s and 2010s.

      However, I had shit gentics, shit advice and was always skinny fat, so I never ate to grow. I always looked like DYEL even in my twenties when I finally got shit under control and looked Okay, but never "fit" or strong. Just not like total shit. about 18% bodyfat. Not lean enough for abs, but noit a fatty.

      In 2016 I started frauding. Now Im fricking jacked and roided and lean. I also look better now than I did in my teens and twenties. Words like Zeus and Hercules get thrown at me a lot. (I had a big reddish-grey beard for a while there).

      I dont KNOW whether Ohearn is a fraud or not, but I know I am. And I dont care.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And we don’t care either roidtroony

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I dont KNOW whether Ohearn is a fraud or not
        You are the dumbest motherfricker alive

        Post your >fricking jacked and roided and lean body

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ChatGPT vibes

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Incoming pure cope and seething over this mans godly genetics making him the greatest natty of all time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fake natty troony cope

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    true if you don't roid your body to shit.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >0 chest
    Is this the way?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, Chest being ripped is infinitely better than chest being big.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imo most roiders dont do stuff like finapil, which might revers some negative effects of roids. THey just do for the "bigger better" frame of thinking

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >finapil
      You mean finasteride?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To jest finasteryd małpo jebana

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            naprawdę? no kurwa detektyw. chcesz jeszcze coś oczywistego powiedzieć, dałnie jebany?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To jest finasteryd małpo jebana

              AAA KUHHHWAAA POLACZKI ROBACZKI JEBANE
              TAK BĘDĘ JEŹDZIŁ PO WASZYCH GARBACH KUHWAAAAA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ohearn wears a wig. he doesn't need to take fin. he's also completely bogged his face in recent years.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's why I don't take steroids not any shit like this God's forsaken shithole praises.
    I wanna be natty as my true king Mighty Mike.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It really does take 40 years of training to get a really developed core. The biggest indicator of how long you've trained is how thick your obliques are.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It really does take 40 years of training to get a really developed core
      If that's true how was this achieved in 6 months?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure if genuinely moronic or not.
        You don't "lose all your gains" when you get off cycle or stop training. The muscle myonuclei are not eliminated. "Muscle memory"

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kevin levrone arguably was the best responder to steroids of any bodybuilder.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying a regular person doing the exact same as Kevin wouldn't achieve similar muscle growth?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that's one thing i wanna know, how do you know if you got the insane 0.000000001% olympia roid genes? I've seen the pics of Kevin off cycle, and he just looks like a typical fit guy, but nothing crazy

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes

            that's one thing i wanna know, how do you know if you got the insane 0.000000001% olympia roid genes? I've seen the pics of Kevin off cycle, and he just looks like a typical fit guy, but nothing crazy

            there's no way to know until you start blasting, but it's insane how much of a responder kevin lavrone was

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >6 months
        Gr8 b8, m8.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He went to Mr Olympia with 6 months of training. You can call him a liar all you like but i tend to believe him.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He went to the Olympia after six months of training and roiding after taking a few months off. He did not start training for the first time and end up on the Olympia stage after only six months. Like any bodybuilder he trained and roided for many years to build his physique before turning pro. Once he became pro he would come off cycle and stop training for a few months after the Olympia and then regain it all once he started prep again. That was actually pretty standard back in the day and it's how you preserve your health when you are hitting the drugs hard like a professional bodybuilder. Guys don't come off anymore and they end up with serious health complications that force them into retirement or death when they are very young.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He was one of the few 90s guys who got off everything when he wasn't prepping like the golden era guys used to. It's why he still has a life outside of bodybuilding now. He would basically lose ~40 pounds of muscle and put it back on in a few months. Cbum is one of the few modern guys who does something similar, but he uses a high TRT dose to maintain a more steady bodyweight, only losing maybe 10-15 pounds of muscle and adding fat in his off season, but that's also because he doesn't have a high stage weight in comparison for his height.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He really would not take drugs or even lift for half the year. He'd go from average guy to that picture in a few months. He was a total phenom.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's definitely the exception. This is what Hitler had in mind

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you built them natty and are high T the muscle fiber you built never goes away, only the pump and extra glycogen stores

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will he look like that in 3024 though?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the natty king himself
    all hail natty king

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