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>BJJ
>Boxing
What do I choose? They're from the same gym and is legit from what I can tell.
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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why so?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Striking comes first and foremost in a fight. It also teaches you timing, distance management, all the most important stuff for fights

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          between two guys that only know one of the two, the BJJ guy wins 9 times out of 10

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous
  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    just do some pilates or yoga to work out your thighs ass and legs. really helps out when you transition, poor people are not meant to be anything other than frickholes for the rich so make sure you pass. I'm going to enjoy using you little bawd.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Do boxing first. It'll be better for self defense and you'll see progression in skill faster

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Boxing. Bjj is for gays and women.

      BJJ vs Boxing? Assuming both fighters are of same weight and have been training for half a year

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        both trained by the average gym of their respective sport? I'd give it to a boxer -if- he can land a good hit and keep his distance. they're a lot more evenly matched then people think but judo and wrestling mog both.
        >boxing or bjj to practice
        boxing. better discipline and footwork.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          how common are Judo gyms? And do you think it'd be a good discipline for a tall recovering fat ass?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            olympic judo? relatively common but with restricted movesets and no groundwork or leg grabs. if you find a judo place near you, make sure it's got a good foundation for newaza and doesn't ban moves or follow olympic judos rules. and yeah, it's good for most anyone tbh.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Grappling beats striking 90% of the time

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >citation required

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Literally watch ufc you dumb frick

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              not him but even with the rules that give an advantage to BJJ, it's still regular wrestling that dominates the sport.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wrestling is grappling brainlet

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        If both a boxer and a bjj practicioner of similar weight/strength trained for a year and had to fight then the grappler would win more times than not. That being said, boxing is a less complicated martial art and will give you a good foundation of coordination. The fact that you'll see progress faster will help get you addicted to fighting/training to fight so you can commit to learning a grappling martial art. Besides, you will want to learn both at some point if you're focusing on self-defense or general fighting ability. If you just want a hobby then I would say bjj to avoid possible brain damage.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        BJJ, almost all fights go to the ground.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        bjj. good luck knocking out someone in one hit this isn't vidya or the movies. once a bjj guy has both of his hands on you it's over unless you know how to defend against grappling.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          There's plenty of street fight videos where one of the fighters who clearly has some kind of boxing training literally ends it with one punch

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Boxing. Bjj is for gays and women.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    depends on how much IQ you want to lose mostly

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is this an actual concern for someone who won't train to go pro?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        In most boxing gyms, yeah

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        no, don't spar hard. do light sparring and you'll be fine

        https://i.imgur.com/yGRTQuz.png

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        if only there was some way of reducing percussion to your head as you box. something like heavier gloves or headguards or something

        headguards and padded gloves will not reduce force transferred significantly

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Most boxers are brickhead types, almost all boxing gyms will lead to some manner of IQ loss, which will be greater than for wrestling. It depends on what you are doing for your life, for a construction worker that side effect is largely negligible while for an academic grappling is a no-brainer choice when it comes to picking up a martial art

        You can just go and do practise training for free at both courses tho and judge for yourself how the injury rate is in either, testing a gym for free for a few weeks is absolutely normal

        https://i.imgur.com/yGRTQuz.png

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        if only there was some way of reducing percussion to your head as you box. something like heavier gloves or headguards or something

        Headgear increases brain injury rate you fricking mong.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headgear_(martial_arts)#:~:text=Boxing%20Headgear%20will%20reduce%20the,in%20the%202016%20Summer%20Olympics.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if you want effectiveness in almost all 1v1 situations, BJJ for the obvious reason that pure grapplers will usually beat pure strikers. its said to death but see early MMA and how grapplers dominated.
        if you already know grappling and find striking more fun and want an aesthetic lean boxers body, then boxing.
        >inb4 bjjgay
        bjj is fun but its not even my favourite, judo is my favourite, but even then i wouldnt wank it as the best MA to learn for absolute effectiveness in all situations.

        if you want to get good enough to defend yourself, youre going to have to spar, and the harder you spar the better you get but the more likely you get injured. otherwise if youre just doing drills which is glorified cardio. in boxing, sparring means that you're going to get tagged in the head a couple of times, and if you get knocked out or concussed in a spar that is permanent brain damage. Judo has a similar problem because throws can result in concussions if you dont fall properly, but its easily safer than sparring in boxing, which is why boxers dont spar hard a lot compared to grapplers

        https://i.imgur.com/yGRTQuz.png

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        if only there was some way of reducing percussion to your head as you box. something like heavier gloves or headguards or something

        headguards doesnt protect your brain it protects your face against cuts. if your head is shaking and moving violently your brain is compromised.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Is this an actual concern for someone who won't train to go pro?

      In most boxing gyms, yeah

      if only there was some way of reducing percussion to your head as you box. something like heavier gloves or headguards or something

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That does nothing but create a false sense of security. The reason olympic boxing got rid of headgear is that it doesn't protect against brain trauma at all

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/TcP9sEL.jpg

          Most boxers are brickhead types, almost all boxing gyms will lead to some manner of IQ loss, which will be greater than for wrestling. It depends on what you are doing for your life, for a construction worker that side effect is largely negligible while for an academic grappling is a no-brainer choice when it comes to picking up a martial art

          You can just go and do practise training for free at both courses tho and judge for yourself how the injury rate is in either, testing a gym for free for a few weeks is absolutely normal
          [...]
          Headgear increases brain injury rate you fricking mong.
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headgear_(martial_arts)#:~:text=Boxing%20Headgear%20will%20reduce%20the,in%20the%202016%20Summer%20Olympics.

          https://i.imgur.com/cab03Wt.jpg

          Heavier gloves just mean that you can hit harder without having to worry about breaking your hand. It's even worse for brain trauma because it encourages hard punches to the skull that would otherwise fracture your hand. That's one of the reasons boxing has significantly more cases of cte compared to mma

          believe it or not, in any quality gym when you're practice sparing you're not trying to knock the other person out
          and any homosexual trying to put fricks in the hospital is getting thrown out on the spot

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Heavier gloves just mean that you can hit harder without having to worry about breaking your hand. It's even worse for brain trauma because it encourages hard punches to the skull that would otherwise fracture your hand. That's one of the reasons boxing has significantly more cases of cte compared to mma

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Gloves protect your opponent from broken bones and cuts. Wraps protect your hands.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Or just moving your head out of the way.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Gloves make transferring force into the head more efficient, and by protecting the puncher's hand, gloves allow you to punch harder and in places in the head you otherwise couldn't without breaking your hand

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          > Couldn't.

          Unless you were conditioning your wrist and knuckles with iron fist training or striking softly enough to just rock them back a bit instead of giving a potential concussion.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >oh no not muh 2 neurons!
      You're not using them anyways

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >street fight
    >boxer gets a knock down
    >BJJ guy puts boxer in guard
    >tries to set up triangle or arm bar
    >boxer stands up and slams BJJ guy repeatedly
    >BJJ guy tells boxer that's against the ru-ACK

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >BJJ guy hooks boxers leg with his arm, boxer can't pick him up
      >Triangle choke
      >ACK

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >boxer literally juts his leg out like a sprawl like any human would naturally react to that
        >grabs BJJ guy's wrist
        >picks him up and slams him repeatedly on the concrete
        >"STOP SLAMMI- ACK"

        >boxer gets put in guard
        >tries to set up triangle or arm bar
        >he succeeds because boxer doesnt know shit on the ground
        >if he doesnt then he gets sweeped and mounted
        the only thing that doesnt happen is the boxer standing up from the ground because bjj guy will grab the dudes legs and take boxer down again, and because carrying a dude with shit leverage like in grappling is almost impossible without grappling experience yourself. odds are boxer wouldnt even know to get in his feet instead of staying on his knees on guard.
        i find it funny just like how grapplers fantasize that they can dodge all strikers and take them down without effort, strikers will fanrasize about how all their shots will knock a grappler out and that they can just bullshit their way out of a shitty position on the ground.

        **IF** you get to mount, yes you will win. What happens if the boxer maintains distance after the knockdown though? And don't act like a large number of BJJ guys practice takedowns. Every pure BJJ gym i've gone to started on ground when rolling.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >boxer sprawls his leg while being put in a triangle/armbar
          >thus losing his foundation of strength on the ground
          >which guarantees the submission and worse, makes it impossible for him to lift the dude from guard.
          you either did not think this through or have never been put through a leg triangle/armbar from guard in your life.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            ?

            you just have to break the grip on the hook once using leg strength and then grab that wrist (the other way around would actually be easier) and then go for the slam

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              what is this screenshot supposed to show? if you have your legs far enough for bjj guy to not be able to grab, then your legs are too far from bjj guy to lift. and if you jut the leg to remove the grip, youre eventually going to have to bring the leg back closer to lift, in which case he can just grab your leg again. unless of course youre telling me that you can deadlift 160-180 lbs with one of your leg jutted out.
              if you want to pick an image that shows off your point about guard being shit because of risk of slamming, you might want to pick one where the top dude carrying the bottom dude isnt in the tightest leg triangle thats just about to finish, and where the top guy can actually lift the bottom dude from the ground.
              slamming is an issue in bjj, but its an issue where a grappler in guard is going up against another grappler who knows how to defend against the guard. if its that easy to slam, then literally every ADCC bjj match or MMA match will end in a slam once someone gets on guard, because they are legal there.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                grab & restrain his hooking hand by the wrist, break grip with leg strength and restraining hand, and slam BJJ guy is what i'm trying to say
                this is not a 10 minute process, this is like a 20-30 second process

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                you have no idea what you're talking about. do you have any idea how much leverage you can get on someone when you have your entire bodyweight hanging from their neck? I doubt you train boxing or BJJ.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the trick is to go to a gym that offers other martial arts beside bjj, because they teach mma specific bjj, which includes drilling high percentage wrestling takedowns

          which is most likely what the OP is getting offered given that the same gym offers boxing and bjj

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >boxer gets put in guard
      >tries to set up triangle or arm bar
      >he succeeds because boxer doesnt know shit on the ground
      >if he doesnt then he gets sweeped and mounted
      the only thing that doesnt happen is the boxer standing up from the ground because bjj guy will grab the dudes legs and take boxer down again, and because carrying a dude with shit leverage like in grappling is almost impossible without grappling experience yourself. odds are boxer wouldnt even know to get in his feet instead of staying on his knees on guard.
      i find it funny just like how grapplers fantasize that they can dodge all strikers and take them down without effort, strikers will fanrasize about how all their shots will knock a grappler out and that they can just bullshit their way out of a shitty position on the ground.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >BJJ guy puts boxer in guard
      >gets his head kicked in by the boxers buddies
      real fights are 99% of the time not 1v1s
      if you're on the ground in a street fight its over

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      please explain how triangle chokes and arm bars are successful in MMA where slamming is legal

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's called underhooking the leg on the triangle so they can't lift you and setting up the arm bar from the top so you have them pinned to the floor.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        i imagine getting slammed on concrete would be a bit more detrimental than in a ring

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >opponent is tyson fury
    >heh, I'm sure to win because of my superior grappling and mastery of the fulcrum choke
    gay-grapple is for actual moronigrades that whine boxing is not "real" enough, it's ten times more street effective

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I would say go to BJJ and practice wrestling takedowns. In BJJ. you are able to go all out compared to boxing. People may state that you'll be slammed in guard. However, if you are fighting an average person you shouldn't have a problem staying on mount or side control. plus, once you get someone in a choke or lock they won't know what to do.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just do MMA. It is the best

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    anyone have the version of this where jesus says "now we're talking" instead

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bjj if you want to have fun and do a sport that you can enjoy all your life and always learn something new.
    Boxing if you want brain damage.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, I just found out about their MMA package:
    >Mon: BJJ
    >Wed: Boxing/MT
    >Fri: Wrestling/Cond.
    This is a no brainer right? I should just take this instead?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      you need to do stretching on your boipussy if you're gonna be good frickmeat for the uper class sissy. train that mouth also, I hate a crude blowjob. concentrate all your energy on getting grounded and pounded.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yeah this insane bang for your buck if your main goal is becoming the best possible unarmed fighter you can be

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    judo

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >bjj pantyboys talking about how they would win 9 fights out of 10 because royce gracie won a UFC 30 years ago

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    depends on what you want to do. do you believe you'd find wrestling, or punching people more fun? from a training perspective, BJJ might be better for musculature, while boxing is superior cardio.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Muay Thai.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ may be better for 1v1s (debatable), but boxing is definitely better if you ever need to face more than one person at once

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Bjj is for homosexuals. Learn boxing and carry a knife, bjj suddenly becomes worthless with a pointy object involved.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Learn myau thai and silat or escrima for knife fighting. You'll be made a killer in a few years. The Myau Thai form is actually originally from knife fighting.... Just imagine two dudes with knives instead going at it and you can see what I mean.

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