BJJ For Self Defense

No matter how much muscle I have, I will make a fool out of myself if I ever get in a fight because I know no martial arts. I'm considering getting into BJJ. My local gym/dojo, whatever you call it, is offering training for $100 a month. I want to train to the point that I can confidently take down anybody, including untrained opponents who are much bigger than me. Should I invest in BJJ? What should I do beforehand?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just cary a gun

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I already own a pistol. I rarely go out, I don't have a proper holster for it (Crappy Taurus where all the gear for it costs a fortune. Imagine paying $40 for a magazine.), and my Dad doesn't like it when I tell him to bring it with us, and it's basically his pistol. I plan on getting a Glock one day with a holster and spare magazines once I save up enough money. Once I get a Glock, I will be carrying it with me whenever I go out.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Glocks are old and busted. The best carry pistols now are the p365, hellcat, or lcp 2/max.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah dude bjj classes are gonna be $150/m, so you're really better off just saving up for the glock from a financial and self defense perspective.

        That said bjj is great workout and way to learn how to protect yourself on the ground so definitely go after it if you're interested.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and my Dad doesn't like it when I tell him to bring it with us, and it's basically his pistol.
        lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh look it's a gunchud

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him, but you should seriously be carrying if you care about being able to defend yourself in a life or death scenario.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah and I do but one of these gays always rolls into these threads to cry about their inability to fight

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good to know, anon. I just got one of these for my AR.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most BJJ are for sports. Be well aware which ones you go to. Judo is really good, but most Japanese Jujitsu 'schools' teach Judo. While you're at it pick up a striking art, you can learn Boxing yourself but its hard to master without an opponent. Kyokushin and Muay Thai are good options outside of Boxing that are everywhere

      This too

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You will be punched in the face a lot

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do they throw punches in BJJ? From a few videos I've watched online of martial artists, they recommend also learning a striking martial art, like Boxing or Muay Thai.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Some bjj gyms incorporate stand up striking for initiations, as well as throws or grapples for takedowns. These are a minority though - most bjj gyms will focus solely on groundfighting and will have you practice movements already starting in a mounted position of some sort.

        This leaves a pretty big hole in your overall technique if you don't know how to initiate and actually move a fight to the ground and into a position you can work with. Because of this, a lot of people will supplement what they learn with a striking art such as Muay Thai or kickboxing. That way you can initiate an hold a fight in a standing position, and if the fight goes to the ground then you'll be confident there as well.

        Easiest way to go about it is to find an actual MMA gym. You'll get the best of both worlds at one cost (usually). As someone who attends 2 gyms for 2 martial arts, it's unnecessarily expensive and the schedule conflicts can be a pain in the ass

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How many BJJ gyms have you gone to to determine that the majority lack stand up?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There are 3 gyms in my area that are BJJ focused. I trialed at all 3 before settling at one that had a few other students from my kickboxing gym. All 3 of them had a strict focus on ground work. To the credit of the one I currently attend, the more advanced classes do have a bit of grappling based initiation, but you have to train for a while before you can attend the advanced classes, so you're stuck with that hole in your technique for a while.

            I can't really say whether or not my experience is typical, but 3 gyms being that way does feel like more than just a coincidence.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, but you said you wanted it for self-defence, just telling ya

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is fun and you can learn some legit self defense. However, you should also do it because you want meet new people and develop friendships. The likelihood you getting into a physical is slim to none unless you are an idiot.
    If you have a wrestling club near by, try that instead.

    t.purple belt BJJ'er

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How long did it take for you to get a purple belt, and how long have you been a purple belt? I watched a video that explained that at purple belt, you should consistently be able to take down opponents who are much larger than you who lack any training in martial arts.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not the same poster but it typically can take upwards of 5-6 years to become a purple belt, the expected time from white to black belt is 10 years with regular training, though some savants earn it much sooner. Honestly though once you've trained regularly for about 3 months you can fairly confidently submit most inexperienced grapplers, they often don't know what to do on the ground and it becomes very easy if you know basic principles of grappling.
        t. whitebelt who did a bit of wrestling in middle school

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is a sport. It doesn't matter how much you talk it up; it is still just a sport.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's actually highly effective in self defense once the fight comes to the ground, but you need a few years in training.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Until you realize people can just headbutt you and there are no rules to stop me from picking you up and slamming you on concrete or just standing up and stomping on your head until you're dead.
        Watch actual no rules cage fighting you'll see how pathetic BJJ really is.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Until you realize people can just headbutt you and there are no rules to stop me from picking you up and slamming you on concrete or just standing up and stomping on your head until you're dead.
          Good luck doing that to my 250 pound ass. If I found myself in a vulnerable position and the person began trying to kick my head in, I'd just shoot his ass.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This, same thing for faggy headlocks and shit. I saw that Spencer Jones fight. If some MMgay moron did that to me, I would reach up and jam my thumb(s) into his eye socket(s). He can either break the hold or lose his eye(s). His choice. Same thing goes for his balls. I can wedge my hand underneath his leg. Nobody does this in MMgay because it's against the rules. No rules in a bar fight. I could also reach into my pocket, pull out my knife, and jam it into his femoral artery. In a headlock like that, that is exposed. No rules in a bar fight, and he will bleed out in seconds with a sliced femoral artery. All th mmgay and wrestling expertise won't do shit against that move. That's what I would have done in that situation and I would have been fully legally justified

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you try this you will get murdered.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How are you gonna murder me with a sliced femoral artery? Stupid bitch

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not gonna do anything but when you turn a physical altercation into a fight to the death you're probably going to die because you're a gay gay that pretends to be crazy on IST instead of an actual crazy person that doesn't feel fear.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but pulling out a knife when someone puts you in a headlock is something that will happen. BJJ is a meme for street fights because just about any submission puts you in a position where the guy that supposed to tap to you can pull out a knife out of his pocket and repeatedly stab you and there isn't much you can do to stop him other than immediately try to get up and run away. Good luck reaching for his knife as he's fucking jamming it into your organs repeatedly.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing for or against BJJ I don't really care I'm just arguing this guy is a gay for fantasizing about gouging eyes and stabbing people to death. If you slit someone's throat in a random bar fight it will probably not go over well for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you slit someone's throat in a random bar fight it will probably not go over well for you.
                Self defense is self defense. Any punch to the face has a chance of knocking you out and killing you. If you fear for your life it doesn't matter that the person assaulting you wasn't serious. No one is gonna care that the choke wasn't meant to kill, the guy you were choking was scared you're going to choke him to death and he stabbed you repeatedly to save his life, he gets to walk free.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you could certainly argue that in court but I don't know why you would have any degree of confidence about it. I'm not telling you how to live your life or who's throats not to slash just that it isn't the best of ideas.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know why you would have any degree of confidence about it
                Because I've seen a guy get stabbed 2 times in the stomach and 3 times in the chest (2 of those hitting the heart and killing him on the spot) after putting a drunk guy in a muay thai headlock at a party.
                Guess what the guy fucking walked because the muay thai guy was a physically superior opponent with a fuck ton more fighting experience, he said he feared for his life and that's that. Any time a knee could flying and he'd get knocked out and who knows what happens after that?
                No judge is gonna pick your side if you have martial arts training and put yourself in a position where you can seriously harm someone. They will use lethal force to defend themselves and they will walk.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >no judge
                Again if you're willing to risk spending most of your life in a cell for that go for it. The U.S. legal system isn't exactly a paragon of consistency and there are many moving parts in every case.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thank God the law is pretty clear on what is considered self defense then, no?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because I've seen a guy get stabbed 2 times in the stomach and 3 times in the chest (2 of those hitting the heart and killing him on the spot) after putting a drunk guy in a muay thai headlock at a party.
                Doubt. You're pulling this story out of your ass or at least heavily manipulating the details. If what you're saying is true, then even though the guy walked, he's still a piece of white trash who has no honor. He can't prove he's a man, so he resorts to killing any man who challenges his masculinity.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >noooo muh honerino why don't you let me fuck with you
                cunts like you and the knife trash deserve to take each other out

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Knives are extremely deadly, wait till you see what happened here in Queersland, Australia. Some islander got his jugular and carotid slashed, died in 15 seconds

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Wrong guy

                >If you slit someone's throat in a random bar fight it will probably not go over well for you.
                Self defense is self defense. Any punch to the face has a chance of knocking you out and killing you. If you fear for your life it doesn't matter that the person assaulting you wasn't serious. No one is gonna care that the choke wasn't meant to kill, the guy you were choking was scared you're going to choke him to death and he stabbed you repeatedly to save his life, he gets to walk free.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because I've seen a guy get stabbed 2 times in the stomach and 3 times in the chest (2 of those hitting the heart and killing him on the spot) after putting a drunk guy in a muay thai headlock at a party.
                Doubt. You're pulling this story out of your ass or at least heavily manipulating the details. If what you're saying is true, then even though the guy walked, he's still a piece of white trash who has no honor. He can't prove he's a man, so he resorts to killing any man who challenges his masculinity.

                If I were the brother or father of the man who was killed, I'd find a way to aggravate the killer to get him to try to draw his knife on me and then magdump his ass. I know he'd be easily aggravated. I'd just have to challenge his masculinity by calling him a pussy who doesn't have the balls.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I will attempt to get revenge
                You getting anywhere close to the guy already puts you in trouble.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're philosophy is basically that you'll never have to worry about being emasculated by losing a fight because you'll just pull a knife out and stab the person to death as soon as you start losing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably because I'm not a moron like you and I don't get into fights or that I already train in a martial art but don't delude myself into thinking I'm some le epic streetzzz fighta who will fuck people up over retarded contests of masculinity, literally moron tier. I'm not gonna emasculate anyone because I'm not a fucking nog

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably because I'm not a moron like you
                The moron is the one who pulls out a knife to a casual fight. That's why I'm calling you a piece of white trash. White trash are basically white morons. Hell, tons of black MMA fighters wouldn't literally try to kill you during a fight.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you attack me I'll kill you. I don't care that you (a fucking non-white piece of trash tree swinging spear chucking banana munching gay) think I have no honor.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you challenge me to a fight, and I agree, and you pull out a knife and start stabbing me, you are a massive pussy who should be put down to save others from getting murdered by such a waste of oxygen. If I challenge you to a fight, and you agree, and you pull out a knife and start stabbing me, you are a massive pussy who should be put down to save others from getting murdered by such a waste of oxygen. I just know you make no contribution to civilized society.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like a little fucking gay, not gonna lie. Probably a literal manlet, you have that seething manlet insecurity dripping through your posts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Try 6'3 but nice try projecting you fucking manlet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe you. You have the soul of a little person with a chip on their shoulder.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you have that seething manlet insecurity dripping through your posts.
                Also, this mentality is very characteristic of the most antisocial white trash in the US.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe you. You have the soul of a little person with a chip on their shoulder.

                This.

                Resorting to petty projecting instead of taking the loss like a real man. You are indeed short and probably still a boy.
                Grow a pair and be a real man for once.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That story he gave of how somebody he knew stabbed a Muay Thai martial artist multiple times in the abdomen and chest and died and that the stabber got off entirely really disturbed me. It may be a completely made up story, but the possibility that such shitheads exist and get away with sadistic murder really disturbs me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                As simple as not fighting people.
                >but my masculinity contests

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                We're talking about a guy who agrees to a fight who starts stabbing as soon as he starts losing. That's a psychopath who can't handle his masculinity being challenged.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It may be a completely made up story, but the possibility that such shitheads exist and get away with sadistic murder really disturbs me.
                Oh buddy... you can get away with a lot worse than that. The only reason why this would upset you is because you don't show people enough respect and are now aware that this could happen to you and your killer would get away with it.
                Just don't get into fights, don't rob people, treat everyone with respect.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you read that guy's posts, you'd know he was talking about people who already agreed to fights. If you agree to a casual fight, like a streetfight, then you're a piece of shit for pulling out a knife or a gun when you start losing. You shouldn't be allowed to roam civilized society.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literally your the only one talking about this straw man, over and over

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're philosophy is basically that you'll never have to worry about being emasculated by losing a fight because you'll just pull a knife out and stab the person to death as soon as you start losing.

                Note to self: Never agree to a fight with white trash. Do everything you can to avoid one. Pull out my pistol if the psychopath doesn't back down.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can cope all you want, but put me in a life or death situation like that, the bjj/wrestler be dead and I would be alive. Simple as. If you think anybody out there thinks differently, have fun getting killed by vatos/morons/crackhead hillsides that don't give a fuck. You try to be Billy bad ass out there, your last thoughts are probably gonna be " no! This can't be happening! They'll go to jail!" as you pump out every last drop of your precious blood

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I won't have any last thoughts because I don't engage in moron street battles. If you choose to and also want to take a life in them go for it, it's not my life being played with.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You dumb fuck you know Jack shit. So your saying your not fighting for your life after someone has shattered your eye socket and slammed your head on the pavement? If that's not a fight to the death already, what the fuck is? God I hope you never have to fight any morons because they will make quick work of finishing your pathetically weak ass off

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                none of this has happened to me. Sorry I don't live in baltimore.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm talking about what the Spencer Jones bar fight. The mmgay moron punched him breaking his eye socket and had him in a head lock. I'm saying if that happened to me, I would slice his femoral artery and be 100% legally justified in that lethal force. Keep crying and coping that your MMGAY shit isnt useless when in an actual fight it is

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                that was ruled mutual combat so you would actually be facing manslaughter at the very least most likely. You can't just instigate a fight then start losing and murder the guy because you felt like you were in danger.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn't ruled anything, the prosecutor just decided not to pursue it. Which they can do for anything bo matter how obvious the crimes are and how much evidence there is (see:hilary clinton, etc). If that fight ended in mmgay morons death, and they wanted to try to charge him, there's two problems. One, the video clearly shows mmgay assaulting spencer , and second most states count certain levels of martial arts training to be a deadly weapon automatically (ohio, Georgia. I don't know about OK where this happened). So, pretty justified to use lethal force when someone assaults you with a deadly weapon, fucktard

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I trained for 10 years wtf? Are you saying I'm not allowed to fuck up random people on da streeetzzzz??

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                again I don't know why you are so confident about how a hypothetical case would go. You're citing specific state laws about martial arts expertise as a deadly weapon but even in those states having wrestled in high school is hardly enough to base that off of. Also the football fags were instigating the wrestlefag by shoving, so it isn't an unprovoked assault. You're just coping and sneeding because you really enjoy fantasizing about killing someone and want to justify it in your head. If you want to kill someone just do it and don't be a pussy about it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spencer never touched anyone. Go ahead and go out there and assault people with your mmgay shit and see how it goes for ya, fag
                >You're just coping and sneeding because you really enjoy fantasizing about killing someone
                I'm not the mmgay fag that worships mmgay fags that randomly assault people

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Pulling a knife is pretty obvious and most egotistical weak gays, like you, have that knife turned on them real quick. It's not like you're nicking someone's artery with your first swipe as you struggle for air and can't even see where the man's inner thigh or neck is especially considering he may be wearing jeans so you'd have to make a stabbing motion to even cut through and deep enough.

                You clearly have no clue how to fight because you're lacking any experience or insight into important details when you go into these LARPing sessions

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your hands are busy with the headlock, you have no time to reach down and do anything before your femoral artery is slit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's hard to tell if a knife was even drawn because it's not something you feel until you know...

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You literally have no idea how quickly you lose consciousness once you're in a rear choke, hey?

                It sounds like you think there's this back and forth struggle where you tug at their arm for a little bit, and then reach down, find your pocket, pull your knife out, release the blade, and then attempt a stab on your attacker's body.

                The reality is that as soon as your carotid artery is blocked by the choke, you can lose consciousness in around 5 seconds. And the few seconds leading up to that, you'll already be experiencing tunnel vision and numbness before finally blacking out.

                If you think you're in any position to try and fondle your pockets trying to locate your knife while being choked out, then you're really gonna have a bad time. It would be different if the knife was already in your hand by the time the choke was engaged, but if it's not then you're fucked.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >moron never watched the video I cited as an example
                Opinion discarded

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Reddit spacing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I would reach up and jam my thumb(s) into his eye socket(s). He can either break the hold or lose his eye(s).
            Eye gouging rarely ever results in lost eyes. Your eyeballs are actually really hard, and you have to consider that early humans and other primitive apes fighting to the death would've hat less success at reproducing had their eyes been soft enough to easily destroy.
            >Same thing goes for his balls. I can wedge my hand underneath his leg. Nobody does this in MMgay because it's against the rules.
            They used to in the UFC, but it was unpleasant to watch, so they banned eye gouging and attacking genital areas. Those guys were pretty tough.
            >I could also reach into my pocket, pull out my knife, and jam it into his femoral artery.
            Enjoy life in prison for murder, you piece of white trash. If you started stabbing me during some casual bar fight, I'd shoot your ass till the mag is empty.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Football is a sport too and those gigabros would fuck you up.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is very situational. If you're in a bar fight and you take someone to the ground, chances are he has a mate who will stomp your head in.

    Learn boxing or kickboxing. It might not be as technical, but you'll be able to hold your own in most scenarios.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      any bar fight is 100% avoidable so which martial art works best when you're a drunk retard having an ego moron battle is irrelevant.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Egotistical football jackasses should get their asses beaten. It's a public service smaller men to beat their asses.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ok batman try not to get stabbed

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Almost right take. You need KB and wrestling.

      In any fight you might end on the floor and wrestling offers the greatest amount of control, offense, speed and high and low ground work.

      BJJ literally teaches you to remain on the floor be it top or bottom position. But wrestling has you change positions constantly and never be trapped which means you can stand back up.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If your only focus is self-defense then carrying is unironically the best thing you can do. If you want to do BJJ to compete, make friends, stay active, lose weight, or whatever that's great, it is a lot of fun. You will develop skills that can help you in a physical altercation, but you will not develop skills that will help you in an altercation where someone wants to kill you, however unlikely that may be. Self-defense is a sham, there is no garden gnome karate class you can take that will save you from a homeless person with a sharp object.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is cool, but freestyle and greco roman is superior. You really don't want to rely on getting to the ground to win fights because anyone can walk up and kick you in the head

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking WISH there were wrestling schools near me. BJJ is chill and will suffice but would rather do some rasslin

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enjoy your eventual crippling joint damage. Try a striking art instead for self defense, better to KO someone then get the fuck out of there, than go to the ground and get your head kicked in by his homies

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I do both muay thai and BJJ, if you had to pick ONE and only ONE martial art I'd say do neither, learn judo and get gud at it. That shit excels at putting you in a dominant position. There are a few simple rules in fights: don't get your back taken, don't end up on the ground with your opponent standing over you, and don't be outnumbered/outgunned.

    That said, nothing beats having a solid grounding in all 3 (stand up striking, takedowns and ground fighting). A good Muay thai gym will teach you the stand up clinch, which is basically stand up bjj and something most people are very uncomfortable dealing with. And most good bjj gyms realize they need to include more takedowns from a standing position because people slowly realized that just endlessly pulling guard wasn't a good idea in an actual fight lmao holy shit who would have guessed right?

    tl;dr just get out there, find a good gym with a solid competition record, and just go regularly. You'll be a better fighter than at minimum 90% of the retards out there and you'll have a good time. You might even grow to enjoy it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >don't get your back taken
      What is getting your back taken?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        anytime someone is behind you basically. Lots of nasty shit can happen; they can choke you, sweep, punch, anything they want really because you can't see them.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Good to know, anon.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    BJJ is shit for self-defense, because most real-world street fights involve more than a single assailant. It is a 1v1 combat sport.
    Have fun taking someone down to the ground while his pals stomp your head in.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Have fun taking someone down to the ground while his pals stomp your head in.
      That's when I pull out my pistol.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Should've spent all the money and time on a good gun and range time instead of blowjitsu

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          A high-quality pistol starts at $500. BJJ can be taught for around $100 a month. That's $1200 for an entire year.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I guess you have to factor in ammo

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can't use a pistol in tons of public places that would result in fighting breaking out (amusement parks, sports stadiums, etc.)

        Gunfags are complete bitches in many social situations, and pulling a gun on someone bigger and stronger than you basically screams, "I am an inadequate moron and I know I've already lost this fight, so that's why I need this tool"

        Learning to fight is for Chads and instantly boosts your social standing should that situation ever arise, so I understand why many channers, like you, aren't cut out to be the big boy alpha dog, ten-inch-dick-having, pussy slaying monsters with the skills to back up the ego.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Brazilian JuJitsu legit looks like gay rape. It was created by a jap named Mitsuyo Maeda, who learned early-phase Judo from its founder (Jigoro Kano). However, Maeda was expelled from Japan for 2,400 acts of forced public homosexuality. So, he took his manraping skills to the jungles of Brazil, hoping to rape many exotic species in the rainforest. One day, while chasing monkeys, he found the Gracie brothers. I dont have to tell you what happened next. Rather than run away, the gracies decided to become his students, becoming proficient in the arts of homosexual rape. When their training was complete, Maeda excreted a 4-foot long turd on each of their tests, telling them it was their "brown belt." All the elder gracies still have those giant Rio steamers, in glass cases on their walls, as heirlooms to be passed on to their descendants. Truly, brazilian ju jitsu has a glorious history.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf did i just read?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A true telling of the rich history and culture behind the homosexual martial art of BJJ

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      saved

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Forget martial arts and size/strength differences. Anyone on the street who wants to hurt you and doesn't care about their own safety is fucking dangerous. You don't want to engage with retards and lunatics like that, there are no rules and there's nothing to win. You never know if they have a weapon either. Just carry a gun.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BJJ
    Just sign up for Russian Combat Sambo. It covers striking and ground stuff.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Enjoy life in prison for murder, you piece of white trash.
    If you try to strangle someone to death they are 100% legally allowed to shoot/stab you until you're disposed of.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We're talking about casual bar fights. Nobody would put you in a choke hold until you die, you retarded piece of white trash.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >We're talking about casual bar fights.
        Do you live in Algeria? If you try to put someone in a restrictive choke you are endangering their life and they are 100% allowed to use lethal force to save their lives. No one cares that you weren't serious.
        If you punch or choke someone you are using lethal force by default because those things can kill people. There is no such thing as a "casual bar fight" the moment you put your hands on someone they can use lethal force to defend themselves.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's good for self defense but you have to depend on not getting shit stomped by other people when you take the fight to the ground. Boxing is a better and cheaper option if you are only interested in self defense.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try it and see if you like it. It’s a fun physical activity that isn’t the typical workout. As far as self defense goes that is a complicated topic. If your primary goal is to win a fight it’s probably not worth investing the time into BJJ. It’s ridiculous to train anything for years just so you can win a fight that you really should never get in. Normally the guys who come just for self defense never last.

    BJJ brown belt, training since 2010. I’m a big strong in shape dude and definitely can’t say I can win a fight over anyone I meet because that is ridiculous. I also can’t recall anyone I’ve trained with getting into a street fight.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It takes a while to get to that point but you should easily win your average street fight at the competition blue belt level (i.e. you place in larger local tournaments).

    I wouldn't go for the cheapest instruction. There's a larger gap between competition and hobbyist black belts than there is between hobbyist black belts and white belts. Also, don't judge instruction quality by belts alone. I know one guy who turned down his black belt promotion to compete at an international tournament.

    On what to do: go to the school's website and do their free trial (usually a week or a month free). For street fights, you want to focus on no gi. 10th planet is a big no gi chain but honestly, you'll learn more at small schools with strong pedigrees -- instructor attention makes a huge difference.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks, anon.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      10th planet is no gi specialists but they don't do particularly well in comp

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The time to get to a point where you can defend yourself with BJJ is about two years or to blue belt. Which is why I reccomend Muay Thai for self defence as you can get to that point in six months. Ideally you'd do both though.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BJJ for street fights!
    To see how well that would work, let's look at the moves banned by UFC. UFC was created by and for BJJ. So we can surmise they banned lots of moves that are effective for breaking BjJ;
    >Head-butting
    >Biting or spitting at an opponent
    >Hair pulling
    >Fish-hooking
    >Eye gouging of any kind
    >Groin attacks
    >Downward pointing of elbow strikes
    >Small joint manipulation
    >Strikes to the spine or back of the head or anything behind the ears
    >Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea
    Fingers outstretched towards opponent's face/eyes
    >Clawing, pinching, twisting the flesh
    Kicking and knee-striking the head of a grounded opponent (see Soccer kick)
    Stomping an opponent on the ground
    Oh look, the BJJ scam artists that created UFC banned all the moves from all other martial arts that are effective in breaking BJJ submission holds instantly. What a shock. I'm sure BJJ would still work great in a self defense scenario because a street fight opponent would similarly restrain himself to those rules used in MM-Gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hey dumb guy, in the early UFCs (almost?) all that shit was legal and Royce Gracie still won.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        forgot pic

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wrong.
        >rear lock, bjjs most powerful submission hold, seen in the bar fight I referenced
        >thing is, the human ankle only has about 60 to 80 deg ROM.
        >I have both hands free
        > your feet are right there in front of me
        >grab and twist until you let go or your ankle snaps
        >OH LOOK WHAT DO YOU KNOW THATS BANNED AS SMALL JOINT MANIPULATION IN UFC
        how about you just rope yourself, gay?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kicking and knee-striking the head of a grounded opponent (see Soccer kick)
      Remember Pride FC? BJJ fags don't stand a chance because their rules allowed head stomping and knees but weirdly no elbows

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >who is Big Nog?

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I train BJJ and its great for self defense. Especially, when your "opponent" isn´t a big and dangerous guy and you don´t want to hurt him. You can put annoying people in lock holds or choke holds without hurting them and making an "testo meathead" out of you. My school has next to BJJ also Wrestling, Muay Thai, Boxing and MMA classes with different trainers who have all competet and have alot of experience.
    I train boxing, wrestling and BJJ 3-4 times a week (boxing starts at 6pm and BJJ at 8pm, so I have two classes a day).

    They good part of BJJ is the journey you will have. You will meet alot of nice and competitive people. You will have alot of fun at tournaments, visit different schools and make alot of friends...
    but the very best part is, that you can sniff and queez cute girl feet. We have girls from every race and style on earth. white, black, arab, kurdish, asian, tomboys, stacys and so on. I roll with one of them in each class, mostly after I have rolled with my favourite rolling partner. I act if I´m all out of breath when rolling with the cutie. I don´t go full ape shit, but it´s more techniqual. We roll a bit and she gets me in a bad situation/submission, like the back mount or the armbar. Thats when the best part begins. If she has me in the armbar, I try to hold against it and put my face away from her, towards her cute feet. It looks like I´m trying to fight it, but in reality, I start sniffing her feet. After I´m "finished", I let go of my arm, tap and tell her, that it was a good submission.
    Sometimes I let them get me in a leg log. I, again, try to "fight" it, but actually, I´m just queezing and sniffing her feet, while making "fighting noises". I roll around a bit, so it looks like I would actually fight it and tap, when I have enough.
    Thats my little foot-sniffing paradise. Most girls wants to train with me, because I fight with them, without going full berserk and don´t touch their asses and boobs, like the rest of the guys.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    100 a month seems a lot

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Since this is the only martial arts thread, thought I'd ask here
    Would it make sense to do intense martial arts after lifting? My current PPL has got 6 days out of 7 covered and I really like the current routine and would rather not switch to upper/lower

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bros I gas out too early during rolling. I notice that I'm explosive during the first few minutes, but then I have no energy left and my opponent submits me easily.

    t. average fitizen with 1 week of bjj

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's just because you're new and don't know how to do anything besides flailing around trying to muscle out if everything. You'll stop wasting energy as you get better and learn proper techniques and the correct way to change positions.

      Try to do everything with intent.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does this place look like a good gym? They've had UFC fighters give seminars there. It seems like all the martial arts there are taught by 2 people, is that normal or should I look for a place that has a dedicated coach for each martial art?

    https://instagram.com/ruggedcombatsports?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

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