So IST i took the fraud pill this year and this whole spring/summer maintained about 10-12% body fat. While doing this i partied and drank often but my diet and training during the week was pretty on point. Before this I got some attention from girls, but usually they werent that attractive, or there was something 'off' about them idk they just werent quality. But since getting lean Ive had the experience of being absolutely lusted over by prime 18-21 year old girls. Before Id have to put in work, talk to a chick for a while, and got rejected often. Now when I go to parties girls damn near throw themselves at me. Ive been followed around, been approached, had random girls try to make out with me. Its like a high better than any other drug. I think im becoming a sex addict bros because. For the first time in my life im getting the kind of attention and validation that I seethed about thinking only "Chad" received. And now Im that guy. And I see the way these girl treat my uglier/less fit friends. Its blatant now they were being friendly before but when they want you, ITS OBVIOUS
I was skinnyfat for years spent all of highschool playing vidya and gymcelling with shit results and Ik im a roidtroony fraud but yea WAGMI
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mate i am experiencing exactly the same. feels great. the sad part is that im 30 now and wasted my 20s bulking and looking like shit.
tldr
Roiding and staying lean will help you bang party bawds
Good cutting motivation, thanks
>hurr durr lifting for women wont work
Yeah suck my dick homosexual
I did roids in my early 20's then dropped off for a few years. Then in my late 20's I began to run and hit the gym again and I'm blown away by how quickly the muscle is coming back.
Nice blog post and testimony, here's mine:
Before I ever even set foot in a gym I had success with women because I'm not scared of them.
lol this is so true, this board hates women so much because people hate what they fear, and fear what they do not understand
Is that why they hate trannies?
I feel this hard. I spent the entirety of my 20's scared of failure with girls and placing an unrealistic amount of importance on each pretty girl I dated/got a date with. There wasn't anything wrong with me, it was just user error. When you treat girls like that or even feel that way about them on a subconscious level it's almost like it lets off an odor or an aura that they can pick up on.
So what did you do to change that? I’ve been on ~12 dates and 2 short relationships since my divorce 5 years ago and I feel like I care too much, put in my best behaviour because of fear, etc. I’m 33
You already know the problem, most do, it's fear, face it or run, choice is yours.
The biggest thing for me was realizing that I had nothing to worry about. Over and over I had created idyllic versions of the girls I dated in my mind and placed them on a pedestal, and over and over again I thought that each one was going to be "the one". Part of it was fear of not getting an opportunity with a cute girl again, or that nobody would be as "perfect" as so and so, but time after time I consistently got more opportunities with higher value girls. Noticing the trend and realizing that I was giving myself anxiety over something that didn't exist was what helped me cement the idea that I didn't have to treat every date like it was my last chance or something.
Everyone has insecurities and I don't think there's anything wrong with having some, but you can't let them run your life. Women have a radar for when you feel out of your league or lucky to be there, this might be "cute" to some girls some of the time, and you might even be able to take advantage of it a little, but girls want to work a little for their food. That's part of what validates them is feeling like they've earned you or "won" you.
Thanks. I do all the things that you used to. But I think I still firmly believe in my subconscious that my chances with women is dwindling, being 33 especially. I feel the only way to stop my fear is to accept the fact that I might be single forever, and to be ok with that. I’m not there yet, and I really do have a deep fear of not making it and being alone
I was a late bloomer all around, I didn't date or even talk to girls in highschool and I was 19 on my first date, 20 when I lost my virginity. I grew into my looks more in my 20's and had a surprising amount of success with getting dates, but not so much with "dating". I'd get lots of first dates, not so many second dates. I think girls could tell I was eager to land something consistent and steady, which isn't unattractive in and of itself but can be a red flag to them. Looking back it's a fricking miracle I didn't wind up marrying some crazy chick and that I don't have two kids and a divorce right now. I'm in the best shape of my life and making amazing money and have zero concerns about women because 30 is still young, provided you take care of yourself.
Late bloomer here too. Lost virginity around 21. Married my second girl at 27 then divorced a year later.
> I think girls could tell I was eager to land something consistent and steady, which isn't unattractive in and of itself but can be a red flag to them
Yea, I definitely give off that vibe.
You’ve given me something to reflect on anon. Thanks
Women can pick up on your insecurities
Everyone can
THE TRUTH??!! ON FIT??!! truly a blessed day
>And I see the way these girl treat my uglier/less fit friends. Its blatant now they were being friendly before but when they want you, ITS OBVIOUS
Elaborate. Also you're talking about behavior at parties here, right?
No in general. I get flirted with pretty often during the day. The other guys not so much
Post body and height?
Quit baiting virgins bro, they have to figure it out for themselves
>i partied and drank often
So you socialmaxxed. How did you do that? I get attention but I need to party more.
What were your goto cutting meals ?
post body and height