>bread
>tomato sauce
>cheese
>meat
>vegetables
How exactly is this unhealthy?
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>bread
>tomato sauce
>cheese
>meat
>vegetables
How exactly is this unhealthy?
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It's not that unhealthy, if eaten in moderation. It's a lot of calories for not a lot of benefit though.
There's a big difference between having a couple of slices of homemade pizza and shoving two large domino supreme pizzas down your gullet.
Homemade pizza is great. Having control over the quality of the ingredients is a game changer.
Exactly. There is nothing unhealthy about flour, water, tomatoes,shallot and mozzarella. 🙂
processed refined bread usually with added sugar
usually processed cheese
processed meats
sauce loaded with added sugar
Just make your own pizza you american moron
Why do that when i have ppl like you giuseppi doing it
I believe op meant real pizza, not american abominations
American pizza is real pizza. Nobody wants your effete flatbread slathered with olive oil and a few herbs.
NJ/NY/CT pizza is real pizza--not that midwest muck you just shared
christ new yorkers are the absolute worst this country has to offer
I agree which is why I live in rural NJ. But you can't knock their pizza
I hope one day the east coast will be set ablaze and I can laugh as I watch over the horizon, truly the scummiest most elitist homosexuals to walk the earth next to Californians. Everything over there is worse so I don’t even know why they think they are better
So you’re a poorgay who can’t afford the east coast got it
Sorry maybe Little Black folk is more your speed
NY pizza is like fricking cardboard. Garbage.
>sugar in the dough
Why americans so obsessed with sugar, they need to make everything sweet like they are toddlers. Except chocolate wich for some reason tastes like puke in america
>get bamboozled into believing fat is unhealthy
>everything low fat tastes disgusting
>add sugar
>???
>profit
>Except chocolate wich for some reason tastes like puke in america
Americans demand that their chocolate tastes like puke, when hershey stopped using spoiled milk their sales tanked
US politicians are in the pocket of a number of industries, including the sugar/corn syrup industry
this allows them to prevent regulations impacting food content for health reasons and even lets them interfere with food education in schools
also they will fund studies to show that their products aren't "that bad"
>usually processed cheese
Golly if only they had the sense to use tree-grown wild cheese
processed cheese has whey in it and it's usually loaded with preservatives and is usually not aged like real cheese is.
It will cost a lot of money to make a pizza out of real cheese
>whey
whey
/(h)wā/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: whey
the watery part of milk that remains after the formation of curds.
the frick is unnatural about that?
>loaded with preservatives
Polly-O LMWM Mozz Cheese (most common kind in NY pizzerias). Ingredients list:
Pasteurized milk, vinegar, salt, enzymes.
>not aged
age = real. sounds legit.
Sounds like a load of horseshit.
you're moronic.
Do you even know how cheese is made?
from chinese cows?
nibba, making cheese is a process. There's no such thing as unprocessed cheese, bro.
When people say processed cheese they are generally trying to separate the traditionally made cheese that you can make at home with just milk and rennet, from the industrialized cheese that is made with several artificial additives, such as sugars, fats, colorants, preservatives, etc.
Not a completely accurate term, but your incapability to understand the meaning says more about you than it does about the one saying it.
yea i don't get what the "process" they do at some times with foods. like it's meat you cut it up that's not a "process"
and you know what..NO. dont tell him why GMO is bad or what processed cheese is.
He doesnt deserve to know.
Let him laugh and think we are morons.
he is NOT PAYING ME to tell him why he is harming himself. So if he is making fun of you and trying to waste your time....let him be.
I mean what do i know...i only come from bulgaria who is second after italy in making great cheeses (from real milk, not from palm oil) (frick france).
I only make pizza 3 times a week
Oh and i do happen to own stock in around 10 of the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world - sanofi, merck, novartis, hutchison, takeda
so...im the dumb one. you are the smart one bro (: keep laughing at me and keep eating your GMO goy slop.
ayy im bulgarian too. You sound moronic though you should read books or something
you do realise selective breeding is genetic modification, right?
moron
>Bulgarian cheese
>2nd best
I take it you've never left Bulgaria
The typical pizza with sugar,processed cheese,and mysterio sugar sauces.
What the frick dude?
I hate americans because the concept of making your own food is completely lost on them
The only thing you HAVE to buy is the meat, the cheese and the vegetables if you're an urban cuck and can't grow them yourself
The dough and the sauce can be made quickly and easily
Italian pizza is not unhealthy
Can’t speak for the American stuff
Strictly speaking, the American stuff doesn’t need to be unhealthy either. Don’t add sugar to the dough, don’t spray it down with garlic infused vegetable oil, don’t add sugar to the sauce, dont use the processed meats with nitrates, don’t add vegetable oil to the sauce, and use a real cheese without added non-milk oils or sugars. If you fallow those rules, you can even use refined white flour and it’ll still be pretty healthy.
What makes it American then? The mixture of dry mozzarella and cheddar cheese for the cheese, the amount of cheese, the toppings like Italian sausage or Canadian bacon, and the fact that a single pie should serve a family of 4, at least.
The main difference is that American pizza has oil in the dough and that it is cooked at lower temperatures
I thought it was that we use so much cheese that you can’t see the sauce and we like adding toppings like pepperoni, sausage, bacon, Canadian bacon, ham, salami, beef, and meatballs to the pizza? Like the “good local joints” all use high-temp wood-fire pizza ovens, and it’s still American pizza. It’s definitely a much more noticeable difference.
Those are incidental. You can’t call a pizza Neapolitan if it has oil in the dough
i want to be able to make napolean pizza
construct your oven, now
It's really easy if you have yard space, I got a cheap one casted from concrete that's designed for the heat and it only set me back like £200 and its pretty damn good, took under a day to set up. Once you have the oven built making a pizza is surprisingly cheap so you can frick around til you get it right
I tried one of these authentic pizzas
it was dogshit. Each size was flimsy as hell and kept drooping. The cheese was not spread proportionately across the pizza. Sure there's meat but no vegetables, just shit like raw garlic cloves drizzled with olive oil or raw spinach that stinks. Tomato sauce everywhere. Fast food has perfected the pizza, you can't beat a regular Domino's. Cheaper and far tastier.
Spot the amerilard
T. moron
t. american
hahahahaha
>authentic pizza
>no vegetables (but proceeds to mention raw spinach)
>raw garlic cloves
Tf are you on about
He probably saw a picture of a margherita and thought the basil was spinach or something.
>t. American fatty
>Dominos
Thats how i know this is bait, dominos is probably the shittiest pizza ive eaten
Isn't modern wheat flour unhealthy in general?
The only thing you need to focus on is CICO (calories in calories out) and protein values
That's the answer to being healthy. Make sure you eat a lot of protein and less calories than you burn if trying to lose weight. A lot of protein and more calories if you're trying to put on muscle.
you are a moron, you can still give yourself diabetes and heart diseases without ever fricking up your CICO and becoming fat
That is everything but the answer to being healhty lmfao. If you care about bodybuilding and bulking or losing weight then you are spot on. That is all about just CICO and protein amount. But bodybuilding has nothing to do with health.
It's not unhealthy if you make it yourself, just very high calorie and not enough protein.
Most of the calories are in the dough, you can use a tortilla as a base and have a low-ish calorie pizza everyday on a cut.
Bread and sugary fruits are generally suboptimal for health, they lack vitamins and are insulin spikers
Blow it out your fricking ass homosexual
Most fruit doesn't spike insulin. Check the glycemic index.
Fruits have some of the highest value vitamins per calorie, underschooled brainlet
Yeah just eat 50 strawberries for your daily vitamins
>fruit
>lack vitamins
>insulin spike
what the frick yo.
Long fermentation dough made with non-gmo organic flour, sauce done with homegrown heritage tomatoes and garden herbs, cheese from pasture raised raw milk, homemade charcuterie meats from healthy animals bought from your local farmer, a drizzle of high quality non-filtered virgin olive oil. All of that baked in your backyard wood oven.
Tell me if that deserves the same name as the goyslop you find in commercial "restaurants"
>non-gmo
I hate you morons so much.
Lol says the moron who is in favor of GMO.
Please explain why gmo is bad, so that I can laugh at your lack of understanding
Not all of it is. Some of it is though. So I prefer to stay away
>no argument
>no argument
>cheese and stocks
We were talking about GMO you gypsy Black person
>It's made by diabolic corporations who've molded it to their needs and not to the needs of the land.
It's not like non-gmo monoculture is any better
Strawman
Fact is none of you homosexuals have any real argument against GMO other than "it scares me because I don't understand it".
Humans have been modifying plants for millennia now. 0% of plants that we eat on a daily basis are still in their original form. Genetic engineering just speeds this process up.
late to the party but the main issue with GMO is dodgy practices - if a farm is growing patented GMO crops and some are found on a neighbouring farm because of windblown seeds and shit like that they try and sue the farmer for theft
also making the seeds they sell sterile so you're forced to buy more each year
also making the plants herbicide/pesticide resistant instead of pest resistant so the farmer has to buy their "totally safe" chemicals to spray on their crops
Last one is the one that does it for me. It's not that I'm scared of herbicide resistant corn. You can't even buy produce in the grocery store that hasn't been drown in carcinogens.
>herbicide/pesticide resistant instead of pest resistant
moron
herbicide resistant is bread in so you can spray a "kill all weed" without affecting the crops.
You can maybe instert a genome that makes the plant resistant to insect larvea, but you cant insert a sequence which makes it excrete literal poison for other plants without the public screeching even more (european walnut does this)
how about i break your skull instead?
t pizza guy who makes pizza at home
It's made by diabolic corporations who've molded it to their needs and not to the needs of the land.
Creating new cultivars without GMO is fine, since it means it's not modified beyond return and can revert to any form you want
>so I'm the dumb one
Well, you said you're Bulgarian...
stop explaining to the moron who wants to "laugh at you".
let him eat dominos and mcdonalds.
let him laugh.
>breed plants for their fruit to have a particular colour and shape
>plants are NOT bred for taste nor nutrition
hmm yes this is good, based GMO
I'm fine with GMO. Why wouldn't I be?
Why would you be? There was already food.
The devil, as usual, is in the details. It's very healthy if prepared with healthy ingredients and proportioned to not be overly doughy or heavily cheesed.
Its not, its just a lot of calories wlth moderate protein, but if you know you are gonna eat pizza on a specific day, just adjust the rest of the meals to compensate
Thats of course if we are talking about actual pizza, not dominos or something like that
It's just a meme fat people enjoy pushing for some reason. Pizza is actually pretty good if you bother to look at the calories. Just remember to go heavy on the cheese and meats to shift macros some. I probably make three a week. The dough gets better the slower you make it. Two days in the refrigerator is magic.
authentic 7 ingredient pizza is not unhealthy
goyslopped pizza is unhealthy (ingredient list longer than my phd thesis)
This, home made pizza from scratch can be a great nutritiously sound meal.
Bros I got the 'rona over the last week and am now mostly recovered, but I think my taste buds are fricked. Pizza tastes like shit. Same with hot wings, my favorite pubsub, and anything that's even remotely too sweet. I was just trying to have some good shitty goyslop as a reward for finally feeling normal, but it all backfired. I wonder what other things will taste differently to me.
Bread
pizza is perfectly fine if you make it yourself without all the added sugars and chemically processed shit they put on takeways.
i am on my cut and i have pizza once a week and it does not affect it one bit.
but make everything yourself... the dough the salsa and just buy the cheese which you can check on fat/protein/carbs. you can add a slice or two of ham and peppers and you are good.
Every animal eats shit and filth covered moldy garbage and you complained about us having to get the purest grass-fed ingredients that cost $6 over the norm. Go away.
no... ingredients for about 5-6 pizzas cost about
flour - 3 euro
cheese - about 6 euro for 4 pizzas
ham - maybe 4-5 for 10-15 slices (you use 2 on each)
peppers - maybe 1 euro per one large one which is good for 3-4 pizzas....
Black person mutt
i did not put the price of yeast in because is dead cheap 6 euro for about 20-30 pizzas maybe more
>Not making his own yeast from water and apple.
ngmi
i just ate 2 large pizzas with garlic cheese stuffed crust. one was pepperoni and other was loaded meat lovers. also a garlic bread and a large side of wedges. 1.5L diet pepsi as a drink but i only drank half. i'm 5'10 80kg 15% body fat 1RM bench 2pl8
AMA
Americans load it with cheese, fatty meats, cheese in the crust, etc
Fast-food tier pizzerias use a frickton of margarine and sugar in their dough, makes the crust extremely savory
Higher-end pizzas crusts depend more on the olive oil and freshness (used 1-2 days after mixing rather than being frozen for x days), they're rich in a more subtle way
>Five servings of bread
>Five servings of tomato sauce
>Three servings of cheese
>Two servings of meat
>A serving of vegetables cooked in oil
HURR IS DISZ UNHELFY!?;!??? DERRRR
we are taking pizzas here not amerimutts version of pizzas...
Im trying this broccoli crust pizza recipe tonight. 540 cal 20 carb 54g protein for a 12-13 inch.
Looks good af anon
Post the recipe pls, those stats look great
It's 80% bread
>and i'm thinking, in my sleep deprived mind, what's in cake??
>EGGS, MILK, WHEAT
>of course you can have chocolate cake!
dad is so great. he gave us chocolate cake!
i'm on psmf for four weeks. i want to make pizza. what do i need to think about with ingredients?
Cute makoto, anon!
sneedoils
it IS healthy if you make it yourself and cook in airfryer
tho go easy on the bread, too many calories
Opinions on making pan pizza every once in a while?
Pan pizza just amplifies the worst part of it and makes it taste worse. I don't see the point unless you desperately need to save money.
Buy premade crust or make your own?
It's unhealthy because it contains both fat and carbohydrates in high amounts.
/thread/
Fat + carbs and no protein is always bad news
this
if there's very little oil in the base, and you top it with chicken breast and vegetables (and either no cheese or very low fat cheese) then it's not unhealthy
When it's from a fast food place they use a ton of s*ybean oil in the crust and sauce, plus they use hyper processed cheese and toppings. Throw in extra sugar on everything and you've got unhealthy pizza.
does self made pizza really taste that much better than the ones (cheese pizza) from dominos? that one time i tried eating some i almost puked from how gross it tasted (even for fast food).
for me the homemades are better no question but it depends how good a cook you are and on your palate - you might be used to overly sweet/salty pizza
I will try eating it from a decent restaurant first then as I'm a pretty bad cook.
Home cooked vs Fast food is debatable.
You want to go to an italian pizzeria.
There many factores which are a pain in the ass for home cooking like fermenting the dough or impossible like having a strong enough oven.
Also you get the top handmade ingredientes from a good italian restaurante,but if you do It yourself you may bit some shit cheese or sauce
i think getting good cheese would be the hardest. most restuarant pizza sauce is shit
Traditional pizza isn't that bad it doesn't even have bad macros, just don't eat to much of it and too often.
Fast food "pizza" with sneed oil and and other useless added shit should never be eaten though.
When we are talking homemade are we taking you roll your own dough as well are premade rolled dough pie from the grocery store?
I would say rolling your own dough but I bet others would disagree, it's still probably healthier if you use the pre-made dough because at least you're doing your own toppings
>3000 calories in a serving
It's not so long as you're making it yourself with fresh ingredients, watching your intake, and properly exercising
It's not really, it's just very easy to overeat because it's so fricking tasty.
Tastes good so it must be bad for you, t. protestant culture
>Bread
fattening as frick, very little nutritional value (none really, just empty carbs). Mucus forming
>Tomato sauce
On its own perfectly fine, EXTREMELY acidic once cooked. Mucus forming
>Cheese
Too protein dense, constipating in nature. Mucus forming
>Meat
>eating meat
kek. Mucus forming
>Vegetables
The only redeeming thing on the dish, but loses enzymes once cooked so its basically null. Helps to digest the rest of the meal tho, so thats a plus
All in all, you can get away with eating a slice here and there, its not like its the UNHEALTHIEST thing you could eat. Just do it in moderation and youll be ok
Who cares
>mucus forming
were there not enough schizo food scares already?
>bread
Carbohydrates with fibre and gluten
>tomato sauce
Nightshades
>cheese
Lactose otherwise ok in moderation
>meat
No problem
>vegetables
Carbohydrates with anti nutrients probably sprayed with agrochemicals
>How exactly is this unhealthy?
That's how
>Muh antinootrients
Cant wait till you morons discover cooking
>Carbohydrates with anti nutrients probably sprayed with agrochemicals
N
>cheese
Lactose otherwise ok in moderation
I
>tomato sauce
Nightshades
G
>bread
Carbohydrates with fibre and gluten
G
>"meat"
No problem
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Great bulking food, as long as you're not using shit American ingredients
Flour, shit oil and shit fake cheese.
For me it's papa john's and extra garlic dipping sauce