What are the pros and cons of these and which one is better?
And why are these two both so popular with IST and with normies?
What are the pros and cons of these and which one is better?
And why are these two both so popular with IST and with normies?
Thinking of trying this as a beginner ppl, but wanted to consult the masters before changing my routine
I'm doing it and enjoying it a lot. Would definitely recommend it if you don't mind going to the gym 6 days a week and you want hypertrophy.
I've tried both and I prefer push pull. But I don't like doing separate days for core or legs, so I've been researching if abs/core are push or pull and made a thread here and nobody really knows. I just like feeling more fulfilled at the end of a workout and that is why I prefer push pull.
Don't you just do abs/core everyday? Same with forearms
Do you feel it in your back on pull days? I do chin ups, deadlifts, lat pull downs, and cable rows but I never feel any type of soreness in my back afterwards. Maybe just bad form but seems weird, like my bicep is doing most of the work instead of my back
It starts off relaxed and ends contracted. Abs are pull.
But it doesn’t matter, because all PPL does is group muscles into categories where their fatigue won’t interfere too much with each other.
Ask yourself what exercise having worn out abs would interfere with?
they are popular with dyels and roidtrannies, real men do full body and then upper/lower and eat meat
Aren't both ppl and brosplit full body though?
full body means you are doing at least one push, one pul and one legs exercise per workout.
And what are the pros for this approach? Isn't that basically brosplit?
it isn't a split in the first place moron
I do my own 2-day split routine in which I train legs/chest/triceps for the first workout and back/shoulders/biceps the second workout. I find PPL restrictive since I prefer to train the largest muscles first and down to the smallest.
Yes I heard about this too, how many times a week do you do this though and how do you manage rest?
I do this twice a week. Sometimes 3x per week. I believe rest and recovery is more important than trying to do marathon style training 4-6 days a week since it'll wear me out quick.
Sound split but autistic reason. To each their own ig
I've been running into this problem recently with intensity. Been thinking about incorporating a "deloading week" every 4th week or so, or maybe just rotate the muscle groups I'm deloading throughout the weeks. Is this a meme or is deloading best as a form of active recovery?
Is there a way to fit cardio into a ppl routine? Like doing a 5 day split and swimming on rest days?
PPL is a program designed for roiders. All it does is pump up your muscles each session which for a natty adds no value at all. It's really shit at recovery and gives you a very hard time gaining strength.
You might notice at the start how you're growing a bit. Especially if you just hopped off a beginner program like SS/SL since you're now pumping up your muscles with hypertrophy instead of doing the standard 3x5/5x5. But after a while you'll notice how you don't get the same pumps as before and you can actually DECREASE your strength by doing PPL.
Strength produces bigger muscles. That's a fact, the stronger you get the bigger your muscles will eventually become. PHAT/PHUL would be a better routine since it gives your both strength and hypertrophy. You can also do 5/6/8 programming which is very effective at making your muscles tired and gain strength. Kinobody's Greek god routine is avalible for free with a bit of googling.
>TLDR: Don't do PPL unless you roid
What would you recommend? PHAT OR PHUL? Roght now PHAT seems better because I would like a 5 day split. Also what ist kinobody's greek god routine?
NTA but I'm enjoying PHUL, not too mention on my rest days I can now do cardio
Doesn't splitting all of your strength training into just "upper" vs "lower" potentially inhibit the amount of strength you can develop by lowering the amount of force you can do in each lift?
I’ve been on the bro split for over a year now. Have zero complaints and will continue to do it. Has improved my strength and aesthetics, easy to follow, and I get good rest for each part of my body.
Most important aspect of any split, however, is that it’s going to motivate you to get you in the gym. Whether it’s PPL/Bro Split, or anything else. Consistency is the most important part of making progress