Buddhist diets

How were the Sohei such fearsom warriors when they were eating a Buddhist diet.

A buddhist diet, at the time, can generally be described as "vegan". They lived on nuts, grain, and produce. They also did not consume alcohol.
Meats were permitted on exception, but it was not a regular part of their diet in any measure.

What makes them so strong, and the modern vegan so weak?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    natural foods
    exercise

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who were they fighting? Chinks? Not exactly a fearsome foe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are now reminded that China hasn't won a war against an external enemy in a MILLENNIUM

      natural foods
      exercise

      FPBP
      checked

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >China hasn't won a war against an external enemy
        Japan? Barely, sure, but they won. Only to lose to themselves afterwards lol.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The civil war counts as a victory for the Chinese people.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            which one there's like twenty

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm guessing the fall of the Yuan dynasty since they were a Mongolian seated power.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are now reminded that China hasn't won a war against an external enemy in a MILLENNIUM
      [...]
      FPBP
      checked

      We're talking about courageous warriors! Heroes of the times!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >kills his infant son
        >betrays his allies
        >BENEVOLENCE

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Benevolent for a chink

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need a perfect diet to get fit when you have to walk everywhere and do manual labor every day.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gladiators didn't eat meat either, I don't think you need nearly as much protein as many say

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      warriors arent bodybuilders, being hueg isnt a requirement for being a good warrior. Even the Greeks wrote about how the athletes usually dont make for great soldiers. They preferred men that can endure hardship for a long time, have a lot of stamina, can fight in a group, etc.
      I've done HEMA for a while and while a basic level of strength definitely helps, speed and technique really tend to win the day. You want to be agile and fast especially if you have no real armor. If you do wear armor it's important to have good stamina since you'll tire more quickly and no armor is going to protect you if you collapse on the ground from exhaustion.

      Keep in mind though, what passes for a good warrior is also relative to the people they're fighting. Historically most armies operated on a doctrine of fielding a shitload of poorly trained infantry backing up an elite military caste that usually decides the battle. Doing shit like flanking or charging in the back or whatever. Relative to those commoners it wouldnt be that hard to be a great warriors, and fighting in an antiquated way compared to a cutting edge form would also likely be no contest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They ate some meat. They also ate a shitload of lentils, oil, and bread to fatten up. The ideal gladiator had a little bit of softness. It was believed to protect the organs. It would also make them bleed a little bit more when cut, putting on more of a show.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Religiois fanatics
    >"It must be their diet"
    Once again, a moronic vegan is trying to shill his poison

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      obsessed low IQ schizo.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Those manlet shoe lifts
    Kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You haven't seen shit

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Serious question IST, this really isn't a demoralization thread.
    I've been lifting for a long time now, and I haven't enjoyed it in a couple of years.
    I'm feeling the urge to lose bulk and just cardiomaxx and maybe do yoga as I enter my 30s.
    Being big/strong just doesn't seem like a fun thing any more (this was always my motivation), and the diet to support it is increasingly a pain to keep up.

    I'm asking if you guys can give me any reasons I might not have thought of to keep going? It was never about lifting for girls but anecdotally I've not seen any difference around me for skinny vs muscular guys getting girls.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm not telling you what to do anon, but I faced a similar issue as I got closer to 30. I ended up deciding to go minimalist monk mode where the only exercise equipment I have is a jump rope and a 30lb kettlebell, and I only eat meat on the weekends. I have found no real difference between what I was going before versus now. As long as you stay consistent and eat properly, the exact routine and diet doesn't really matter in the long term.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, it's your life. If you want to be a lean, mean sexmachine, then go for it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think you should do what feels sustainable and what you enjoy. I personally think you will be far healthier following your yoga and cardio lifestyle, if it's what makes you happy, than you will ever be if you're trying to slog through bodybuilding workouts that you hate. All in all, anon, we won't be on this earth for very long. Don't squander your time by doing things other people want you to do, unless you yourself see value in it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      Ive officially stopped and would only do maintenance, once you "get fit" youre fit if you maintain it.

      I got an education while I lifted.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Cult of Passion

      >Serious question IST
      Post body then.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most Buddhist sects in japan allowed the consumption of meat. The Buddha himself ate meat. There was and is no unified Buddhist diet and you'd have to borrow from not just differnt countries but differnt eras to even make that case even for monks in the same country. The most common rule is you can't eat an animal killed on your behalf meaning you can go to the fish market or butcher and buy anything as long as you didn't hunt it or it wasn't slaughtered for you or your group. So any seized provisions are also okay.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They ate meat on exception.
      Like, a traveling monk is hosted in a home, and they already have an animal slaughtered (not specifically for the monk) and the meat would go to waste. It is then permissible to eat.

      This isn't a regular situation, and isn't part of their regular diets.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They ate meat and were probably provisioned with it regularly by people who wanted them for their war efforts. The meat eating monk is practically as much of a stereotype as the drunk priest. They know shouldn't but they do and tell others they don't. It's not something you ever take them at their word on. If there's one thing people in all ages and places are it's dishonest.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's a saying amongst Chinese soldiers who've escaped battle.
          >Caught by a lord and be whipped to death, caught by a monk and be starved to death
          It's essentially making fun of the Buddhist's diet, comparing to a whipping due to how paltry it is.

          https://i.imgur.com/vmqttvT.jpeg

          >Buddhist
          >Japanese
          [sigh]....I have basically finished my tour of the Kingdom of Siam, and Im extremely disappointed.

          I miss Japan, Siam is trashed...they are not 108, theyre 36...

          Buddha was evicted from these lands, "This is not the soul...
          ...and *this* in not the soul...
          ...and *this* in not the soul...
          ...and *this* in not the soul...
          ...and *this* in not the soul..."

          If the only place I find it is in the hearts of the monks, the land is lost...

          Japanese aren't particularly Buddhists either. There's a few temples, but it's not generally accepted by the people.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Cult of Passion

            Yet there I found the soul...

            Definitely choosing Japan (Korea for visa runs). SE Asia is heretical, bandit camp Siam.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              find God moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Cult of Passion

            >There's a few temples
            I visited several in my first trip (Tokyo) (Hokkaido/Otaru for winter). I saw genuine belief, heart, soul in the temple, from citizens and not monks.

            In SE Asia, the "true believers" seemed more like Hindus and Muslims, where citizens live it out and not "ritualize it personally as a formality".

            • 3 weeks ago
              Cult of Passion

              Lao, saw it be turned into some sort of modern consumerist/works-based religion, pseudo-humiliation rituals passed off as poverty/asceticism.

              Theyre also now a subservient culture being invaded by boomers and zoomers, including me and my 1-year long rental contract which I am breaking.

              Asia is immature, like Africa...except Africa has serious violence, so they get experience in "serious shit", which Asians dont...they get vomiting, disrepectful, Brits.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cult of Passion

                >vomiting, disrepectful, Brits.
                I now understand this is warranted.

                Its systemic too, the people collectively accept this, its in the governmwnt, laws, police, everything. At all levels of society. Maybe Singapore is nice, only had a day there but it seemed nicer, idk.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the "true believers" seemed more like Hindus and Muslims
              It is unfair to compare any belief to these two.
              1. Hinduism is not just a religion to many, it is national identity. Nationalism has taken over Hinduism, corrupted it's ritual and iconography, and deluded the people.
              2. Islam is built on the back of the failings of Christianity and Judaism. It very effectively monopolizes the practitioner's time and turns it into social warfare. It further segregates Muslim communities from others using banking and food and it makes it very easy to join, but difficult/dangerous to leave.

              Whether the people believe or not, they MUST present that they do for their social standing or life in their little segregated community stands solely on it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cult of Passion

                >It is unfair to compare any belief to these two.
                No, Im saying Buddhism is a fallen religion and Hinduism and Islam have survived the End of the Age.

                The Kingdom of Siam has fallen, Buddhism blossoms elsehwere...*cough*, I wonder where it is...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cult of Passion

                >I wonder where it is...
                Evagelical Revivalist Buddhism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/Mmgb71z.jpeg

                >I wonder where it is...
                Evagelical Revivalist Buddhism.

                Why are you replying to your own posts, answering your own questions?

                moronic namegay weeb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Cult of Passion

                >weeb
                Youre blind and moronic, stop talking to me you degenerate street scum.

                Bill was $300, food was shit.
                "Michelin Star"...pfft...Ive had better in a random café in Paris.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You keep regurgitating propaganda, stop watching Netflix.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I look at this and I can think about is Town of Salem.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Old mate winding up for a kick gets me everytime kek

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick kind of moronic rule is that? It should be the opposite

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Big fish in a small pond.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This
      >Japs
      >Creates an entire warrior culture based on a glorious death, write books, engraves it in law and uses it as a national identity
      >British
      >Ave at em lads
      Guess which small island nation become a world superpower

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They really do not like it up em'!
        Great Pepe, mind if I borrow it?
        t. fellow Brit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anglos had repressed and highly fertile Thegn and Jarl bloodlines since the Norman Conquest. Once they left Engerlund behind fighting and conquest was like riding a bike to them I says.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How were the Sohei such fearsom warriors
    They weren't. Consider the average samurai was like 4 feet tall and dying of beriberi.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Cult of Passion

    >Buddhist
    >Japanese
    [sigh]....I have basically finished my tour of the Kingdom of Siam, and Im extremely disappointed.

    I miss Japan, Siam is trashed...they are not 108, theyre 36...

    Buddha was evicted from these lands, "This is not the soul...
    ...and *this* in not the soul...
    ...and *this* in not the soul...
    ...and *this* in not the soul...
    ...and *this* in not the soul..."

    If the only place I find it is in the hearts of the monks, the land is lost...

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were like 4 feet tall.
    They also ate fish and "critters" (which includes insects, frogs and snakes) as they weren't considered animals.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Certain grains and nuts have pretty high amounts of protein if you eat enough of them, probably ate tons of fish too, combine that with the natural test from working in the sun all day/whatever adrenaline you get from fight training with weapons and you'd probably be quite strong and healthy even without eating meat every day
    >But fish is meat?
    YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most monasteries are up mountains
      Even considering foraging river fish it wouldn't be enough to account for a large part of their diet

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can you get lean on a pesco vegetarian diet? or whatever you'd call it. vegetarian with fish eating characteristics?

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