>bulk. >gain 10 pounds of fat. >cut. >lose 10 pounds of muscle

>bulk
>gain 10 pounds of fat
>cut
>lose 10 pounds of muscle

natty lifting is an absolute joke

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just keep the subcutaneous fat around 20 to 15 percent. You'll produce plenty of test and will look beefy in clothes. Yeah, if your inserts and body aren't that great you'll look face but it's better to look strong than be super cut and weak.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      20 is too high. 15 is the upper limit for testmaxxing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      20 is too high
      12-15 is, imo, the optimal range for feeling and looking good.
      More and you're starting to look chubby, less and you may start feeling like shit because of the lower calorie diet (ymmv)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a reliable body fat calculator? I swear my bones are denser or something because the online ones I’ve tried give me ~20%, but I’m picrel at 6’7”/233lbs

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          based guts build. it doesn't work when you are a turbo lanklet. just go by the mirror chief.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah no way you’re 20% lol, easily pushing 30.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >pushing 30
            I’m 40 in fall
            Now post your onions titties

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    most people are not competitive bodybuilder so 'cutting' and then 'bulking' every 8 months isn't necessary.

    People should just dial in their diet and maintain as well they can.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people on this board believe this
    i know youre trolling but
    >people on this board believe this

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you gain 10 lbs of fat on a bulk or lose 10 lbs of muscle on a cut, you are unironically retarded.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the case if you have very very suboptimal conditions

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bulking/cutting cycles as a natty is a total meme. Best natty aesthetic is get into that 16-18% bf range and just eat at maintenance or slightly above. You’ll look great without having to obsess over calories and won’t feel like shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >16% bf
      >you will look great
      Lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah bro trust me chicks love dad bods. They think it’s way more fun to have a bae you can enjoy pizza and beer with than a guy who eats salad and counts his macronutrients.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Women only signal that “attraction” out of their own insecurities, plus it makes them look more attainable to a greater number of men, hence more attention.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any lower and you will look dyel with clothes on, this forum constantly thinks everybody is lower body fat than they actually are. And 18% isn’t even a dad bod as suggests

        Nah bro trust me chicks love dad bods. They think it’s way more fun to have a bae you can enjoy pizza and beer with than a guy who eats salad and counts his macronutrients.

        , most people don’t look chubby at 18%. It’s the sweet spot between lean and dad bod

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You will look dyel with clothes on if you are dyel
          If u are big you will look big in clothes at 18 and 12% bf

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you think you will be big at 12% bf you are either unironically mega retarded or lift for like 2 months

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              seek medical help

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ummm im still 90kg bw 160kg bench at that bf so I'm good sweetie

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >eat at TDEE and just increase maintenance when you need to gain more muscle
    >Stay the same body fat and gain muscle mass
    roiding is a fucking joke.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mogs you from behind
    Hehe nothing personal kid

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >standing onstage with other greased up men in your underwear

    Just do a recomp and lift for you, gay

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