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Is butter bad for you? And more generally, are saturated fats bad for you?

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they are bad then they are less than half as bad as seed oils.
    Then what will you use to fry or cook? Gonna eat raw meat, sushi and prosciutto forever?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      about as bad as olive oil. if you eat an excessive amount of butter it's probably bad for you but if you just use it to fry eggs and do general cooking then it's nothing to worry about. don't eat 4 sticks a day and it'll be fine

      >what will you use to fry or cook
      avocado and olive oil nig

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >olive oil
        enjoy creating your trans fats

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          my oil's gender expression is irrelevant to me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's a /misc/ schizo
      I cant think of a better way to discredit your whole argument

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, the youtube videos weren't made by /misc/ish people. So now what?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's been deboonked, sweaty.
      See

      >it's a /misc/ schizo
      I cant think of a better way to discredit your whole argument

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    IDK but they give me acne every time i have it.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is butter bad for you?
    Not in reasonable amounts.
    >And more generally, are saturated fats bad for you?
    Not in reasonable amounts.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Not in reasonable amounts.
      how much would that be

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not him. the rule of thumb I use is that fat should be around 20-30% of caloric intake and saturated fat about half of that so 4tbsp of butter a day is reasonable for a 2000cal diet

        day to day nutrition doesn't matter that much tho so you could eat 12tbsp one day and nothing for the next two and it would be the same. I do a non-animal product fast every few days to deal with the inflammation it can cause

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          animal products cause you inflammation? complete opposite for me

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6497971/
            haven't read the abstract so this may say the complete opposite of what I'm saying. pork and dairy aggravate my knees and lower back, no other animal products do. the problem is chronic inflammation from eating way more meat than the body is designed to handle. medieval peasants abstained from meat for over a third of the year and they couldn't afford much of it when they did eat meat, so I try to eat (roughly) along those lines. still eat plenty of fish and poultry tho

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Pigs are scavengers and they will eat rats and LITERAL SHIT. It makes sense they would be more toxic. Cows have four stomachs.

              As for dairy, try raw dairy and you will get lots less inflammation. Can't give you it right now but look up "skim milk acne". The more processed it is the more inflammatory it is, and pretty much all milk is pasteurized.

              Well, the youtube videos weren't made by /misc/ish people. So now what?

              >it's a /misc/ schizo
              I cant think of a better way to discredit your whole argument

              https://i.imgur.com/7R8bur3.jpg

              If they are bad then they are less than half as bad as seed oils.
              Then what will you use to fry or cook? Gonna eat raw meat, sushi and prosciutto forever?

              https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/12/171207141624.htm
              >Canola oil is one of the most widely consumed vegetable oils, yet little is known about its health effects.
              >links canola oil consumption in the diet with worsened memory, worsened learning ability and weight gain in mice which model Alzheimer's disease.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                animal products cause you inflammation? complete opposite for me

                I'll add to this. Certain foods may cause inflammation in certain ways.

                Certain animals or plants may metabolize lead very easily.
                Certain animals or plants may absorb and retain lead, thorium, other heavy metals and toxins easily and store it in different parts of their body.

                Varying your food will THEORETICALLY allow you to avoid certain types of inflammation. I will say the least inflammatory foods are probably:
                >grass-fed pastured beef
                >hunter-gatherer breast milk
                >white rice

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick is meant by "inflammation" and what symptoms and issues does it lead to? Serious question.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The body entering a state of self-defence to attack be it microbial, toxins, disease. If it ends in '-itis' is inflammation. If you're chronically inflamed your body becomes hyper-defensive and begins to attack itself by via the production of reactive oxygen species and leaves you more susceptible to a bunch of pathologies including cancer, stroke, mood disorders etc.

                I'm happy to be corrected by any medgays in here, but essentially if you allow the body to become used to being under attack (in this case through the ingestion of pro-inflammatory agents) you're allowing yourself to slowly degrade

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_inflammatory_index
                inflammation is self explanatory. certain foods (animal products, tomatoes) cause accute inflammation of the gastrointestinal tract or other parts of the body for various reasons. chronic inflammation from eating a sad c**t diet can promote disease, so it's best not to eat like shit every day

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The body entering a state of self-defence to attack be it microbial, toxins, disease. If it ends in '-itis' is inflammation. If you're chronically inflamed your body becomes hyper-defensive and begins to attack itself by via the production of reactive oxygen species and leaves you more susceptible to a bunch of pathologies including cancer, stroke, mood disorders etc.

                I'm happy to be corrected by any medgays in here, but essentially if you allow the body to become used to being under attack (in this case through the ingestion of pro-inflammatory agents) you're allowing yourself to slowly degrade

                What the frick is meant by "inflammation" and what symptoms and issues does it lead to? Serious question.

                I'm the guy you were originally asking. These guys basically summed it up, but to add to it a little bit:
                >every food, even the best ones, have a little bit of toxins
                Heavy metals, microplastics, antibiotics, things like that are in basically every animal. You can avoid antibiotics by eating organic or wild animals, but microplastics are almost ubiquitous, and heavy metals ARE NATURAL. The body isn't perfect and can't shit out every single toxin, so trace amounts are stored.
                When you eat the animal you eat these trace amounts (unless you're eating bugs, carnivores, or scavengers, in which case you're getting massive amounts) and your body uses the inflammation to fight it off and mitigate the damage these toxins can do.

                Search up "concentrations of heavy metals in tissues". Your body isn't perfect so it stores toxins in certain tissues where they can remain RELATIVELY inert.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ye pigs are disgusting if they're not kept in pristine conditions, have mostly stopped eating it

                have been looking into raw milk but American restrictions on it are absolutely moronic; I'd have to drive for like 45 minutes to get to a farm that sells it. also not sure how safe it is because you have screeching soccer moms crying about e coli on one side and rawshills saying it's the best thing ever on the other

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've tried raw and pasteurized (low pasteurized). I like the taste of raw better but digestion wise it doesn't seem like much of a difference. Also I'm not sure if the taste is due to pasteurization or different breed of cow. I think you should try getting low pasteurized at least since it does seem like other people taste the difference, raw and low pasteurized are generally higher quality milks too

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >saturated fat about half of that
          all of the fat you consume should be saturated, its the one balanced fat, unsat and trans produced imbalances and in a twist of events actually clog your arteries
          we are built to consume animal fats, not plant oils, and yes i include olive oil there

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            what about coconut oil

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Coconut and palm oil are based

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                palm oil encourages southeast Asian turd worlders to burn down their forests so I try not to eat it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            brainlet take. multiple mediterranean cultures have spent the past several thousand years eating significantly more olive oil than they they do animal fats with no ill effects. same logic applies to butter, if it were an issue it wouldn't have been in practice for 3000+ years

            avocado oil doesn't have the same history to it but the processing is virtually identical to EVOO so I don't know why it would be an issue

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Mediterranean cultures were also mostly slaves

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                modern society is 100% slave

                >with no ill effects
                they die at lmao75, and by 60 they are already decrepit
                reminder humans are meant to live +120 years

                >humans are supposed to live for 120+
                Enochian truthpilled

              • 2 months ago
                KingInce

                >with no ill effects
                they die at lmao75, and by 60 they are already decrepit
                reminder humans are meant to live +120 years

                Even if they could in theory in the past, the world is extremely polluted with microplastics, lead and cadmium in the air.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >with no ill effects
              they die at lmao75, and by 60 they are already decrepit
              reminder humans are meant to live +120 years

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Problem is you can't know until it's too late. satfats increase your bad cholesterol, which is coincident with plaque buildups in your arteries, which will eventually make your heart go kaput. I guess then you can't really know unless you measure your plaque buildup, which is difficult and much much riskier than just eating less butter.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >satfats increase your bad cholesterol, which is coincident with plaque buildups in your arteries, which will eventually make your heart go kaput
          Wait, people still believe this?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is bullshit. Get with the times. Next you'll tell us that eggs are unhealthy, or that splenda is better for you than cane sugar, or that canola oil is better for you than animal fat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        About 100g/day should be fine. I eat about that much as part of my cut and I'm fine

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i recently started making all my butter into ghee, its fun and yummy :^)

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    butt-er. better than sneed but still badie

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but still badie
      why

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saturated fats raise LDL which is Causally linked with CVD

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    honestly if you just avoid seed oils and only eat food you cook yourself, you are gonna be good for the most part.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yep, all this nitpicking and "optimization" is moronic.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Butter is good for you. Just look at heart disease over time relative to butter consumption.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is no actual evidence that satfat is and for you, the so called science was done by a man named ansel keyes who lied about everything and forced his hypothesis, he studied 21 countries and just took out all the heart healthy satfat consuming societies like switzerland and called it the 7 country study. Pretty much everything a leftist believes is and establishment lie, whole grains for example were originally pushed by insane teetotaler christians for no reason and are also worse for you than refined and bleached grains though simple carbs in general aren’t needed by most people these days and are probably bad for sedentary lives.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Keys used 21 countries of UN data as a starting point. He didn't study them nor had any involvement in production of that data set. Keys did study 7 countries, some like Yugoslavia which weren't at all in the UN data.

      I know that blatant lie that Keys cherry picked countries is widely spread in keto circles. Those asshats lie about everything.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >still no response to the existence of heart healthy sat fat dominated societies
        Go take a booster!

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    are you in bad shape? yes
    are you in good shape? no

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    penut butter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      huehuehue... penis butt

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        fked up innit..

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No and no

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most store butters are bad for you.

    Real grass fed butter is healthy as frick and almost required to function with modern diets, it's full of k2. It also costs 5x as much as the shit butter at stores.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on your genetics. For some people, sat fat leads to an increase in artery plaque which will kill you eventually (but in the meantime you won't notice any difference to health and fitness or anything like that).

  15. 2 months ago
    El Arcón

    Butter isn't.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Butter isn't bad, it's just very calorie dense is the only issue with it and any other fat

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they are obesity preventatives

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you believe butter is bad for you, you need to be put on beta blockers and statins to "increase" your quality of life.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    no
    no

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