Yes, also body control and mobility. You should do some calisthenics regardless. Throw in some clubs/maces/kettlebell and yoga too. Most of the dudes I've met that went exclusively to gym and were physically very impressive were also always stiff as boards and couldn't pick up a sack of cement without hurting themselves.
There’s gotta be a discord made for retards who spent money buying meme shit like clubs and kettlebells and who are trying to cope. There’s literally no advantage to spending money on this shit when you can get adjustable dumbbells.
>spend money
lol, lmao even. I just made all the stuff I use and its amazing people fall for the marketing scams. You don't need much in the way of tools if you don't want to machine a metal mace for example.
Like clubs are literally a fucking piece of wood you can just find in any forest, you can pretty them up if you like or just go with the caveman-aesthetic. >you can get adjustable dumbbells
Which cost money again so your argument is pretty retarded.
>anon starts sperging out out how clubs etc are scam >point out that you can make them very easily yourself or even grab a branch and swing it around and its even cheaper than dumbbells if you get anal about it >reeeeeeee post physique
Why are people on IST such retarded autists?
2 months ago
Anonymous
>claim some dumb shit about fitness >prompted to post body and/or lifts >doesn't
2 months ago
Anonymous
>lift or in this case swing heavy things >get stronger >reeeeeeeeee give proofs that excercise makes you stronger
2 months ago
Anonymous
>wood clubs >heavy
2 months ago
Anonymous
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[...] >not posting body
pathetic
>w-wood is not heavy >some random branch in the forest is heavier than what an average person can even lift >probably never heard of meels that can go up to 50kg for one and are usually paired
And you can still scroll up and read that I mentioned machining metal mace, and thus other metallic training implements if wood still bothers you morons. You can still make all of that stuff with relatively simple tools, club/mace can be metal, wood, plastic, concrete, whatever you want and what suits your needs and wallet.
Or go to the gym, buy your dumbbells online, whatever.
I really do not understand why this triggered ISTs unending well of screeching autism. Last (you)s.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>some random branch in the forest is heavier than what an average person can even lift
alright, I get why you won't post body now. funny how the tards reinventing fitness challenging tried and true exercises and trying to replace them with retarded shit like swinging bats or sticks never have anything to back up their claims.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>reinventing fitness
nta but that mace shit is thousands of years old vs. modern gym equipment and training.
2 months ago
Anonymous
This, barbell is actually what "reinvented" fitness and rejected tradition.
>swing heavy things, it makes you stronger >reeeeeee post physique
lol, lmao even
https://i.imgur.com/gJ790wW.jpg
>anon starts sperging out out how clubs etc are scam >point out that you can make them very easily yourself or even grab a branch and swing it around and its even cheaper than dumbbells if you get anal about it >reeeeeeee post physique
Why are people on IST such retarded autists?
https://i.imgur.com/EyJvLpj.jpg
>lift or in this case swing heavy things >get stronger >reeeeeeeeee give proofs that excercise makes you stronger
Weighted push-ups? Could put a 10kg plate in a backpack...
Skip push ups for benching, do weighted chins on your back day and weighted dips on your chest day, there's not much merit to making an entirely different day for bodyweight when you could just be hitting those exercises more effectively at the gym, especially when you could be hurting your recovery that way
Push-up is a compound workout, so i will keep that in my routine. Will make them harder though with a plate in a backpack.
>there's not much merit to making an entirely different day for bodyweight
I can't do calisthenics and "normal" lifting on the same day, it's too hard. Need some recovery. I am not 20 anymore, anon.
Skip push ups for benching, do weighted chins on your back day and weighted dips on your chest day, there's not much merit to making an entirely different day for bodyweight when you could just be hitting those exercises more effectively at the gym, especially when you could be hurting your recovery that way
bro just pick up a heavy bag and throw it around and carry it and bring it on a date and do neck curls and do side neck curls and planks and shrugs and more neck curls and eat protein and drink coffee dude
Low rep, high weight, short rest period with few sets or 1 set f. If youre a chubby newbie itll be super effective but eventually it will become tricky, for upper body you can do muscle ups and planche push ups but for lower pistol squats are the upper limit
I can't move up my reps on bodyweight exercises. Dips/Chin ups, my reps only marginally increase if I remove the extra weight. Dips for example, I can get 8 reps at +25, 10 at +20, but at +0 I can max out at maybe 13.
what?
I dont understand your syntax. Are you just writing that for some exercises you can do more reps if you remove extra weight and just do cali but for other it makes no difference?
I'm saying that for calisthetics exercises, in this case dips and chin ups, the amount of reps I do does not substantially decrease with the extra weight I add. For example, on dips I can get 8 reps with +25kg added on, one would assume that I could therefore do a lot of reps without that +25kg, but I can only barely beat my rep numbers.
>do calisthenics to induce hypertrophy >muscles get huge from hypertrophy >get too big to do calisthenics >muscles atrophy
The main goal of calisthenics is getting better at calisthenics.
The basic calisthenics movements (pullups, chinups, dips, leg raises and their variations) can build muscle, but have diminishing returns once you can easily go over the hypertrophy (8-12 rep) range, so calisthenics alone can give only this much muscle.
Calisthenics alone are a meme for muscle building.
That's why you want to do WEIGHTED calisthenics with a vest/backpack/ankle weights/dipping belt/whatever. As long as you are on a progressive overload in the hypertrophy rep range, you will build muscle mass.
And if you are doing calisthenics, you don't need to do meme exercises like the iron cross, maltese cross, planches, etc. if your goal is to have larger muscle mass, simple movements are more than enough.
>t. primary workout method is rings and weighted calisthenics
>but have diminishing returns once you can easily go over the hypertrophy (8-12 rep) range
true, doing +12 reps of one arm pullups and handstand pushups (on parallettes ofc to have full range of motion) is too easy, you have to add weight if you want hypertrophy
>weighted ring dips (to tire out the triceps) >weighted bulgarian dips (to tire out the triceps) >weighted pullups (to tire out the brachioradialis) >weighted towel chinups (to hit the biceps, forearms and tire out the upper back)
2-3 times per week, depending on recovery, 4 sets of 6-12 reps, once you can do 12 reps on the first set with clean form, add weight.
Hanging leg raises and forearms every second day since they recover fast.
I'd advise to vary between full amplitude and normal speed with low amplitude and max speed every month. To hit the three types of fibers. Of course, with progressive overload and timed rest in hypertrophy range, but reset reps when changing month. Maybe not as quickly as weights but it works to some point.
Thanks for the tip, anon. Good to see this board isnt just trolls and shit throwing chimps. I am currently doing my calisthenic workout very slow and deliberate, trying to go all the way. It's hard. Will be even harder when i put a plate into my backpack.
I'll piggy back on this thread. I'm just starting with fitness. 6'2 ~100kg. I can do 20 pushups and 30 squats in a go now and i mostly walk and ride the bike otherwise. What calisthenics stuff I should be doing. I'm hopeless at pullups but i'm getting there and I managed to do 2 dips today anything else?
yeah for some reason if you use your own body weight you can't build muscle.
It’s a meme bro. Stick to eating 4500 kcal a day and doing deadlifts that’s how you end up looking good
Yes, also body control and mobility. You should do some calisthenics regardless. Throw in some clubs/maces/kettlebell and yoga too. Most of the dudes I've met that went exclusively to gym and were physically very impressive were also always stiff as boards and couldn't pick up a sack of cement without hurting themselves.
There’s gotta be a discord made for retards who spent money buying meme shit like clubs and kettlebells and who are trying to cope. There’s literally no advantage to spending money on this shit when you can get adjustable dumbbells.
>spend money
lol, lmao even. I just made all the stuff I use and its amazing people fall for the marketing scams. You don't need much in the way of tools if you don't want to machine a metal mace for example.
Like clubs are literally a fucking piece of wood you can just find in any forest, you can pretty them up if you like or just go with the caveman-aesthetic.
>you can get adjustable dumbbells
Which cost money again so your argument is pretty retarded.
show me the physique you built swinging pieces of wood you found in the forest
>swing heavy things, it makes you stronger
>reeeeeee post physique
lol, lmao even
then show me how much you can squat or bench?
>anon starts sperging out out how clubs etc are scam
>point out that you can make them very easily yourself or even grab a branch and swing it around and its even cheaper than dumbbells if you get anal about it
>reeeeeeee post physique
Why are people on IST such retarded autists?
>claim some dumb shit about fitness
>prompted to post body and/or lifts
>doesn't
>lift or in this case swing heavy things
>get stronger
>reeeeeeeeee give proofs that excercise makes you stronger
>wood clubs
>heavy
>w-wood is not heavy
>some random branch in the forest is heavier than what an average person can even lift
>probably never heard of meels that can go up to 50kg for one and are usually paired
And you can still scroll up and read that I mentioned machining metal mace, and thus other metallic training implements if wood still bothers you morons. You can still make all of that stuff with relatively simple tools, club/mace can be metal, wood, plastic, concrete, whatever you want and what suits your needs and wallet.
Or go to the gym, buy your dumbbells online, whatever.
I really do not understand why this triggered ISTs unending well of screeching autism. Last (you)s.
>some random branch in the forest is heavier than what an average person can even lift
alright, I get why you won't post body now. funny how the tards reinventing fitness challenging tried and true exercises and trying to replace them with retarded shit like swinging bats or sticks never have anything to back up their claims.
>reinventing fitness
nta but that mace shit is thousands of years old vs. modern gym equipment and training.
This, barbell is actually what "reinvented" fitness and rejected tradition.
>not posting body
pathetic
Post legs
>just make your stuff
Anon's time is worth less than money. Many such cases. Sad.
I am doing 4x25 pushups, 3x10 chin-ups and 5x15 dips every other day. The other day i am doing classic lifts with weights. How's that?
At that point you should do weighted chin ups and harder variants of push up
Weighted push-ups? Could put a 10kg plate in a backpack...
Push-up is a compound workout, so i will keep that in my routine. Will make them harder though with a plate in a backpack.
>there's not much merit to making an entirely different day for bodyweight
I can't do calisthenics and "normal" lifting on the same day, it's too hard. Need some recovery. I am not 20 anymore, anon.
Skip push ups for benching, do weighted chins on your back day and weighted dips on your chest day, there's not much merit to making an entirely different day for bodyweight when you could just be hitting those exercises more effectively at the gym, especially when you could be hurting your recovery that way
bro just pick up a heavy bag and throw it around and carry it and bring it on a date and do neck curls and do side neck curls and planks and shrugs and more neck curls and eat protein and drink coffee dude
Low rep, high weight, short rest period with few sets or 1 set f. If youre a chubby newbie itll be super effective but eventually it will become tricky, for upper body you can do muscle ups and planche push ups but for lower pistol squats are the upper limit
I can't move up my reps on bodyweight exercises. Dips/Chin ups, my reps only marginally increase if I remove the extra weight. Dips for example, I can get 8 reps at +25, 10 at +20, but at +0 I can max out at maybe 13.
what?
I dont understand your syntax. Are you just writing that for some exercises you can do more reps if you remove extra weight and just do cali but for other it makes no difference?
I'm saying that for calisthetics exercises, in this case dips and chin ups, the amount of reps I do does not substantially decrease with the extra weight I add. For example, on dips I can get 8 reps with +25kg added on, one would assume that I could therefore do a lot of reps without that +25kg, but I can only barely beat my rep numbers.
You can build mass. Just add weight after a while.
>do calisthenics to induce hypertrophy
>muscles get huge from hypertrophy
>get too big to do calisthenics
>muscles atrophy
The main goal of calisthenics is getting better at calisthenics.
or you just yknow, get stronger or adjust rep scheme. did you know you were being retarded or was it just natural talent?
>get stronger
Post a webm of you doing a pull up fatass. You can't? Just get stronger you weak piece of shit.
The basic calisthenics movements (pullups, chinups, dips, leg raises and their variations) can build muscle, but have diminishing returns once you can easily go over the hypertrophy (8-12 rep) range, so calisthenics alone can give only this much muscle.
Calisthenics alone are a meme for muscle building.
That's why you want to do WEIGHTED calisthenics with a vest/backpack/ankle weights/dipping belt/whatever. As long as you are on a progressive overload in the hypertrophy rep range, you will build muscle mass.
And if you are doing calisthenics, you don't need to do meme exercises like the iron cross, maltese cross, planches, etc. if your goal is to have larger muscle mass, simple movements are more than enough.
>t. primary workout method is rings and weighted calisthenics
>but have diminishing returns once you can easily go over the hypertrophy (8-12 rep) range
true, doing +12 reps of one arm pullups and handstand pushups (on parallettes ofc to have full range of motion) is too easy, you have to add weight if you want hypertrophy
Whats your frequency and set scheme?
>weighted ring dips (to tire out the triceps)
>weighted bulgarian dips (to tire out the triceps)
>weighted pullups (to tire out the brachioradialis)
>weighted towel chinups (to hit the biceps, forearms and tire out the upper back)
2-3 times per week, depending on recovery, 4 sets of 6-12 reps, once you can do 12 reps on the first set with clean form, add weight.
Hanging leg raises and forearms every second day since they recover fast.
bulgarian dips - to tire out the pecs***
Do you even understand what drives hypertrophy?
Do people really use such a wide grip? I thought the forearms should be perpendicular to the ground
Calisthenics practitioners can easily turn into good fighters.
*pulls out gun*
how do i pull up
I'd advise to vary between full amplitude and normal speed with low amplitude and max speed every month. To hit the three types of fibers. Of course, with progressive overload and timed rest in hypertrophy range, but reset reps when changing month. Maybe not as quickly as weights but it works to some point.
Thanks for the tip, anon. Good to see this board isnt just trolls and shit throwing chimps. I am currently doing my calisthenic workout very slow and deliberate, trying to go all the way. It's hard. Will be even harder when i put a plate into my backpack.
You're welcome. It's from the Lafay method. I don't know if it's been translated from french.
*It appears not. Which is a shame, I'd like to know IST's opinion about this gym less, tool less bodyweight method.
If you work your muscles to failure or even near failure solicits muscular adaptation.
dunno
I'll piggy back on this thread. I'm just starting with fitness. 6'2 ~100kg. I can do 20 pushups and 30 squats in a go now and i mostly walk and ride the bike otherwise. What calisthenics stuff I should be doing. I'm hopeless at pullups but i'm getting there and I managed to do 2 dips today anything else?
Pullups and chinups are great. Crunches also help and hanging leg raises.
But pushups are a meme. Balance bullshit is just circus tricks for the most part