Can anyone collagenpill me? What's the magic of this shit? Just took my first two scoops

Can anyone collagenpill me?
What's the magic of this shit?
Just took my first two scoops

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is the point of this? Collagen doesn’t have anything to do with keto. Collagen is literally made out of protein*.

      *this product is an incomplete source of protein.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s way more expensive than whey, not worth it imo just eat oranges and bone broths

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn’t bone broth more expensive than collagen?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can buy bone with marrow for almost nothing and cook up a batch thatl last you for months

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about jello?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Buy bulk gelatin powder in specialized baker stores.
      Regular store bought goes for €50/Kg, specialist goes for €20-30/kg. Whey goes for €35/kg
      Though whey is usually 95%+ protein while gelatin 80%. So they're comparable in price.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    its a scam for brainlets

    Just get whey

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      isn't whey incredibly processed and hard on your kidneys and liver?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Whey is just a kind of protein found in milk. It’s probably cheaper to buy milk than buy whey anyway, and you can just get protein from food, so whey protein doesn’t really do anything except make it more convenient to eat protein.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >cheaper to buy milk than buy whey
          IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD????????????????????????????????

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it's pretty toxic. any kind of powdered slop is toxic due to the processing of it. just eat food. idk why people dance around the fucking simplest issues so much. protein issue? eat more meat, scared of calories? eat eggs or organs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >just eat 6 chicken breasts a day bro

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            if you can then why not? ill stick to beef tho

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I used to think like this but when I finally started using whey my lifts exploded. Same with creatine. So I'm optimistic for collagen too.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            lol literally placebo and your lifts were shit. there is really no reason why your lifts should go up more than by like 1kg if you start taking creatine. but if you needed that placebo to progress then i guess good for you

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >lol literally placebo and your lifts were shit
              I compete and it made an appreciable difference.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is a better approach. Gelatin is dirt cheap and you can get it at any supermarket in paper envelopes without any PFAS liner. You just mix it into enough hot liquid otherwise it'll get lumpy and you'll never dissolve it. Because it's a food, I trust it to be a little purer than sketchy supplements.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          why would whey be toxic just because its in powder form? there isnt even any chemicals used to filter or dry it

          it´s the "waste" product of cheese you jsut seperate from fat and sugar with a ceramic filter and heat dry it
          and you are basically left with ony the milk protein dried

          unless you say past milk and cheese is toxic you have no leg to stand on

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's a possibility that oxidation damages stuff during drying but i doubt it's significant for whey

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >oxidation
              you read that about sneed oils and now its on your brain

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Processed means it's easier to digest. It's the same with sugar.
        Granulated sugar is a hundred times easier to digest than the sugar you find in fruits.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >get milk
        >rip the protein out of it
        >sell it as powder
        >uhmmmmmmmm isnt whey LE BAD

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whey is industrial cheese runoff

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >get cheese
            >rip the milk protein out of it
            >sell it as powder
            >uhmmmmmmmm isnt whey LE BAD

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    supplements are a scam

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    New research has shown that it has muscle and tendon growth effects... i think it was 30% more muscled growth and like doubling of tendon size compared to control.
    The mechanism behind it is still currently unknown.
    The idea that it cant be broken down like that because its a long chain is negated because its hydrolyzed.

    This as a powder is indeed different than getting it through chicken skin

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The stomach hydrolysed proteins anyway through acid and pepsin enzymes, hydrolyzed is solely so it doesn't form a jello in your cup

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just started doing 15g gelatin in 16oz OJ every lower body day to strengthen my patellar tendons specifically.

    https://journals.humankinetics.com/view/journals/ijsnem/29/4/article-p453.xml#d1270362e293

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I used to think like this but when I finally started using whey my lifts exploded. Same with creatine. So I'm optimistic for collagen too.

      This is a better approach. Gelatin is dirt cheap and you can get it at any supermarket in paper envelopes without any PFAS liner. You just mix it into enough hot liquid otherwise it'll get lumpy and you'll never dissolve it. Because it's a food, I trust it to be a little purer than sketchy supplements.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's slowly turning you into glue.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I mix it in with my ground beef for extra collagen
    My literally-boomer mother puts it on her food and when she slacks off she gets old-lady spots from, like, burst blood vessels or something
    Keeps your joints/connective tissue from getting fucked up

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We had a great post before some days here about it.
    Maybe someone can find it

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a protein source that is high in glycine, has every other amino acids, except tryptophan
    And this is a good thing, high tryptophan from whey on the long run does more harm than good to your health, and is known to make you hit the wall earlier, you can get more than enough tryptophan for muscle synthesis just from a decent diet
    Whereas the high glycine from collagen is harmless and you will notice how good it is for your joints, hair and skin health, improves sleep too
    Price is debatable, where I live a quality whey and quality collagen peptides are almost the same price, with the latter being slightly cheaper, even better because the whey has 0.8g protein per 1g, whereas collagen has 0.9g protein per 1g
    You can go for more DIY natural options like bone broth, but if you country has a reputable lab I would still go for peptides, it is the best bang for buck because of higher bioavailability
    It is a hard to swallow redpill, since whey is so deep rooted in fitness industry, and most people just 'follow the current thing' instead of doing researches on their own, so don't listen to whey salesmen and shills ITT, it doesn't take much to realize whey is a meme, just leave it to roidtrannies to keep buying it, the guys who are professional at destroying their own health

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats alot of words.
      Post body so I can see what kind of physique is making these claims.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Thats alot of words.
        quintessential amerifat post

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wow, thats really neat
    I just eat all the sinevs and gristle on my meat/fish/chicken instead, you should try it sometimes.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I still feel like all these collagen threads are a constructed marketing campaign to try and eat whey's position in the market.

    They always read like an advertisement and it's always the same messaging. If a real person actually preferred collagen to whey, they would probably post once about it and not dedicate their lives to trying to convert others.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ikr
      feel the same about people trying to discredit collagen
      sounds like they're afraid of losing their whey sales if collagen ever goes mainstream

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly. The ROI for posting on IST is probably unknown but it's free to post and you can do it on the side of the rest of your actual job (like me right now).

        Actually, there's probably a lot of topics that are just fringe marketing campaigns.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    For collagen:

    Go to your local Asian store or even Walmart and buy chicken feet.

    Pressure cook the feet for 2-3 hours

    Strain

    You're left with incredibly gelatinous broth. Use this to make rice/beans/soup/whatever.

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