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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can you get high on it ?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's methamphetamine with a CH3 group removed from the molecule which makes it about 50% less potent. You can compensate for that by doubling the dose.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >water is just hydrogen peroxide with an oxygen atom removed, but you can compensate for that by drinking half the amount
        This is how moronic you sound

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The difference is, moronic dog, that meth and amphetamine are both relatively fit for human consumption with toxicity at certain points the differ between the two, whereas consuming hydrogen peroxide will cause you to start foaming at the mouth in exchange for zero (0) benefits whatsoever.

          Saying "double the dose" is obviously unscientific and not grounded in anything besides schizophrenia, but don't compare meth and amph to water and fricking hydrogen peroxide.

          Please, go ahead. Feel free to explain to me exactly why methamphetamine is more potent than amphetamine if it isn't the chemical structure, but some other factor. Please, I'm very interested in what it is that you have to say in this regard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stop reddit spacing you fricking moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Feel free to explain to me exactly why methamphetamine is more potent than amphetamine if it isn't the chemical structure
            What the frick are you on about? My whole point is that changes in chemical structure can and will lead to wildly different properties. You're the one who disregarded a whole ass methyl group as "it's almost the same just take twice as much lolololol". Following that same logic, hydrogen peroxide is just water plus an oxygen atom, and mdma is "just meth but with an extra methylenedioxy group". Are you going to tell me mdma feels like meth and the only difference is in dosages? Maybe you should start injecting some estrogen since it's almost the same molecule as testosterone. Make sure to double the dosage though, it's missing a methyl group after all!
            Meth has different ratios of binding affinities for DAT, NET, MAO-A, VMAT2, it interacts with them to different degrees, and it also has a half life that's like 3 times longer than amphetamine. It's qualitatively different from amphetamine, not quantitatively, I don't know what else to tell you.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Say goodbye to your baseline dopamine level. This shit is the devil.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >having to rely on pharmaceuticals to get anything done
    NGMI

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    How does using Adderall making you not honorable?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Get perscribed Vyvanse
    >Read all the stories online about how it's changed peoples lived and finally allowed them to get shit done
    >Try it myself
    >Feel compelled to message everyone on my Discord friendslist and then edge for 12 hours and feel like a wreck the next day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The people you're describing are on the honeymoon phase.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yep
      I've done vyvanse edging too.
      >lost almost 60lbs
      >aced every single course in college easily, and actually had fun doing it
      >dark souls 3 came out, played hundreds of hours while going to school while working and while also going to the gym daily
      >was actually socialable for the first time in my life, even if a little aspie and hyper
      >felt real happiness for the first time in my life
      >also found time to edge for hours and hours on random break days
      I honestly forgot why I stopped taking it. I don't even remember side effects that were that bad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honeymoon phase plus those habits aren't sustainable.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No matter what you read online it’s an amphetamine and it gets you high. Doesn’t matter if you have ADHD
    it gets you high.

    Stims are all give and take
    The give isn’t even that good
    If you’re already 0 motivation do nothing loser it changes nothing
    If you’re already successful it does nothing and it’s all take, no give

    The worlds most overhyped moron drug.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally facilitates greater concentration and focus. That's not useful to you because your job is passing fries out of the drive through window.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's not useful to you because your job is passing fries out of the drive through window.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dumbass response
        Amphetamine blunts higher level thinking

        You’re not even arguing with me, you’re just implicitly saying that you love getting high on amphetamine.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what is "higher level thinking"? making gay depressive posts online?

          i take adderall to do my job that requires "higher level thinking" where i make 3x what you make. how bout them apples sad ass lil boy?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I take adderall to jerk off for 12 hours

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >amphetamines blunt higher thinking
          citation needed

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            his ass

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Would you consider learning to be higher level thinking? Not to mention if you are sleeping and eating less your cognition will suffer, don't need a neurologist to tell you that.

            https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1834271100

            > We conclude that in some brain regions, repeated exposure to psychomotor-stimulant drugs limits the ability of later experience to produce this form of synaptic plasticity, which may contribute to the persistent behavioral and cognitive deficits associated with drug abuse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Analyze caffeine for me

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If by make it you mean get fit, it will probably help all things being equal. It's just speed, which tends to get people moving.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gondor makes way better shit

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I first started I was given some shitty generic and I thought it was shit. Then I got the brand name one and it was night an day comparatively.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Adderall gave me a career, it took away basically everything else.
    Was it worth it? Still dont know

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What doses were you taking?

      I'm on pretty low of 10mg XR x2 a day and don't anticipate going higher. Been on for 4 months now. It has really helped but I'm not a zombie without.

      Just wondering for myself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        20mg xr, still need it daily. Never once moved up or down
        Again, it gave me a career and profession, took away my physical, mental and social health.
        Preferable to being a high school drop out working a minimum wage job I guess.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gotcha feel for you anon. I'm pretty late to the game I just started in my 40's after struggling through sheer tenacity to focus at work sometimes. And now I found it has helped me focus so much more and I haven't noticed bad side effects other than feeling sleepy when they wear off.

          I was more tired fighting my fatigue than I am now.

          But I am still relatively new on it as I said. I'm just looking for potential side effects to look for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What career?
      What do you feel you lost?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Good

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Been taking 10mg XR for a couple years now. I basically just take it for fun and have no illusions about what it is - it's meth that you get from a clean source. I recommend the 10mg tabs because you can double / triple up on dosages if need be. No one should be taking it every day and even on a month where I do "a lot" I end up with at least half of the bottle as surplus.

    I mostly take it before I go roller blading, long drives or if I expect to have a high intensity day at work. Also good if you want to autism grind at a game, do tedious car work or things like that. I can be easily agitated on the stuff so I don't recommend taking it if you are just going to sit at home because you will 100% get annoyed with something and start arguing with your wife. If you are in a social situation where you will be doing most of the talking it can be good but back-and-forth conversations can be rough.

    Some tips -
    >combo with a vitamin c heavy energy drink
    This will delay the onset and cause a smoother uptake overall.

    >stagger dosage if taking multiple
    I would recommend spacing it out at no more than one tab per hour and no more than three per day if doing this. This causes a much smoother up and downtake but more than 10 hours consecutive is very stressful to your heart.

    >DO NOT COMBINE WITH THC AT HIGH DOSAGES
    This is legit heart attack city. If you are doing 10mg XR / 10mg THC + CBD edible or similarly low amounts this is a safe mix and can make for a really good workout or writing buzz. Actual big boy levels of both at once is extremely taxing on your cardiovascular system. If doing this I strongly recommend sticking to THC edibles so more easily regulate dosage and because of easier uptake. The easiest comparison is an edible being like easing to a stoplight vs the quick hit from smoking being more akin to slamming the brakes.

    (cont)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you

      Have to

      Type your post out

      Like this

      homosexual

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i have never had to relay information in a written format
        One day you might actually have a job where you are telling people things instead of just being told

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Thinks

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  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This shit fries your dopamine receptors. It's nothing more than a recreational drug.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Snorted like 3 pills in 1 night, got fricked up on vodka and weed, and tucked some girl I was with at the time. Had an out of body experience where I watched myself fricking. Was very surreal. Was able to focus at work like crazy for a week.

      Seconding this. It is harder to enjoy things.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can be safely mixed with muscle relaxers AT REGULATED DOSAGE
    I can and have started a day with an adderral and a methocarbamol tab plenty of times but make absolutely sure you understand how both set with your system separately before mixing these kinds of things.

    >beware of time sinks
    It is really easy to take one in the morning, start doing something and not realizing it's 1pm. Have clear goals, set alarms on your phone if it helps and make yourself stick to it. Otherwise you can spend a whole weekend waxing your car or reorganizing your meme folder.

    >make sure you sleep
    There is a finite amount of energy you have in a day. Do not use adderral as to compensate for inadequate rest. This is, once again, heart attack city.

    >have a home heart rate and blood pressure monitor, check yourself regularly
    My appointments require this but no everyone has a doctor as responsible as my own. I would recommend at least once a month, if not bi-weekly, checking your BP and HR while on whatever your cruising dosage is and checking off days to make sure you know what your baseline is. 10-15% elevation is an expected raise but significant differences should be taken very seriously. If you are already at an elevated HR and the 10-15% pushes you into dangerous territory this is not the drug for you.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it ain't a miracle drug like everyone says it is, but it's way more effective than chugging coffee and energy drinks.
    make sure you cycle off occasionally, over time you start feeling "stretched", like you've held onto the one ring for too long. it's fricking weird.
    also you need to set daily goals and learn time management. otherwise you'll just dump hours and hours into entertainment time sinks, defeating the whole purpose.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread really makes me feel like a dumbass for ignoring chemistry. How do I git gud?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With the right mindset this stuff can be amazing and legitimately life changing for those in need but you have to be extremely careful. As others here have already said, it's fricking meth. Use it as a tool, not a crutch and keep your expectations in line and you'll be fine.
    Also, don't take it while sleep deprived unless you want to form the desire to overthrow an establishment.

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