can we get a list of cringe things and contradictions that jeff nippard does?

can we get a list of cringe things and contradictions that jeff nippard does?
i'll copy paste them under his videos just to tease him
i'll start

>claims to be science based,
this one was an RPE 7.5 nono maybe 7.75 teeheee *slides on the floor on dirty socks*

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I dont have a problem with him, hes probably the best mainstream fitness youtuber

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see how being science based and using RPE is paradox. Can you elaborate?

      Him and Mike Israetel are the hypertrophy kings of online fitness.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because people are really bad at evaluating their level of excretion. Actual studies on perceived exertion/true failure show that people give up way too early all the time.

        The most ubiquitous advice you'll get about lifting is to have structure and milestones, don't just do what you feel like. RPE is "just do what you feel like" exemplified, and it gives niphard an excuse to make up his training on the fly. Real programs have starting weights, goal weights, and a progression to get there. Find me any competitive weightlifter using RPE.

        RPE is the biggest beginner trap. I don't care how hard it feels, you don't get stronger by feeling like it's hard. You get stronger by lifting more weight.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So you shouldn't use RPE coz u might be off by a bit? That's retarded. That's like saying you shouldn't listen to traffic rules coz you might end up going too slow.
          >RPE is "just do what you feel like" exemplified
          Uhhh, no? RPE is having to do exactly what your program tells you to do. Do you properly understand the concept behind it? You keep track of how many reps in reserve you have to be close enough to failure to stimulate growth without going to failure to add unnecessary fatigue.
          >excuse to make up his training on the fly
          You do know this fucker uses like 120 studies on each choice he makes, right? Almost nobody puts that much thought into programs. Look at people like Greg that'll give you a weekly plan and just tell you to "Train harder than last time" without eating more, which will lead to a super quick plateau lol
          >Find me any competitive weightlifter using RPE
          Literally every single powerlifter???? Have you ever seen a powerlifting program???
          >beginner trap
          Not really, beginners should learn to feel failure
          >You get stronger by lifting more weight.
          Anddddd that's exactly what RPE is for? If a weight that was RPE 9 feels like 7 after a while, it's time to load heavier to get back up to 9. Retard.

          Also, you seem to have 0 understanding of weightlifting. So post body you stupid misinformed whore.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (1/2)
            >RPE is having to do exactly what your program tells you to do
            Except your program is saying "do something that feels like you could maybe do 3 more if you had to", as you try to do this
            >keep track of how many reps in reserve you have to be close enough to failure to stimulate growth without going to failure to add unnecessary fatigue
            in the middle of a set.
            Doing exactly what the program tells you is when the program says squat 315lbs for a 5x5, and then you squat 315lbs for a 5x5. The program is designed to manage fatigue. Relying on your mid set decision making instead is silly, because people are bad at judging their actual exertion.

            >this fucker uses like 120 studies on each choice he makes
            I don't know how to explain to you that YouTubers skim abstracts to gain credibility. Fitness YouTubers are not scientists, they are entertainers, and I doubt any of them read half the studies they cite.
            >Look at people like Greg
            No, I don't think I will. This is a false dichotomy between RPE training and Greg Doucette lol. Both are bad.

            >Literally every single powerlifter
            Do... Do you think powerlifters are weightlifters? Weightlifting is the most developed and researched strength sport, with national entities pumping millions of dollars into research and training programs. It is one of the high water marks of athletic training. And they always deal in absolute numbers because how you feel, what you perceive, doesn't matter. Weight doesn't care about your feelings.

            >Not really, beginners should learn to feel failure
            I have no idea what you mean by this. Beginners should fail reps? Then they won't have have ANY reps in reserve. You don't need RPE to fail a lift lmao.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you shouldn't use RPE coz u might be off by a bit? That's retarded. That's like saying you shouldn't listen to traffic rules coz you might end up going too slow.
              >RPE is "just do what you feel like" exemplified
              Uhhh, no? RPE is having to do exactly what your program tells you to do. Do you properly understand the concept behind it? You keep track of how many reps in reserve you have to be close enough to failure to stimulate growth without going to failure to add unnecessary fatigue.
              >excuse to make up his training on the fly
              You do know this fucker uses like 120 studies on each choice he makes, right? Almost nobody puts that much thought into programs. Look at people like Greg that'll give you a weekly plan and just tell you to "Train harder than last time" without eating more, which will lead to a super quick plateau lol
              >Find me any competitive weightlifter using RPE
              Literally every single powerlifter???? Have you ever seen a powerlifting program???
              >beginner trap
              Not really, beginners should learn to feel failure
              >You get stronger by lifting more weight.
              Anddddd that's exactly what RPE is for? If a weight that was RPE 9 feels like 7 after a while, it's time to load heavier to get back up to 9. Retard.

              Also, you seem to have 0 understanding of weightlifting. So post body you stupid misinformed whore.

              >Powersharters discussing numbers and words

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just lift gay

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's not what RPE is. Again, it's not just what you feel like, you should be coming in with a goal weight and looking at bar speed and making adjustments based on that. Maybe you go higher than your goal weight or maybe you go lower but it's not what you're saying. I don't follow weightlifting but RPE is ubiquitous amongst high level powerlifters. Funny how its not getting in the way of then squatting 700lbs or benching 400.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rating of Perceived Exertion
                Perceived
                >It's not what you feel like

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said it's not *just* what you feel like, you'd know that if you were at all familiar with RPE based training. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRx2YZTcbQ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                whats the diff between RPE & RIR?
                arent RIR just better?
                i couldve done x amount of reps etc

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't believe I spent 18 minutes listening to this. So what Sid from Ice Age is saying here is that RPE is not about how it feels, but is actually a "rating of performance". We already have a perfectly good rating of performance - the weight on the bar. That's what all the sports use, why not use it in training?

                He goes on to say that your RPE should be benchmarked to a max effort. So it's like using a percentage of 1RM.

                He talks about how when using RPE you should have goal weights, and should use RPE to make "course corrections". He recommends using percentages of your max to base your target weight. So you should have a training program based around absolute weights, determined by your 1RM, and then use RPE as an excuse to not stick to your training program, either by undershooting or overshooting the weight.

                And then in response to the criticism that people are not accurate with their RPE ratings he says "Who cares" and "It's not that difficult a skill to master".

                So it's not *just* what you feel like. It's using a training program based on weights, and using how you feel to not stick to that training program.

                I'm just going to stick to my weight-based training program and leave all the funny numbers and adjustments to you guys.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why not use it in training
                You do it use it in training, it's a way to up or downregulate the weight to manage fatigue based on the day.

                >Then use RPE as an excuse to not stick to your program
                No that's not what he's saying, your 1RM isn't the same everyday, you can be weaker or stronger depending on the day and you can adjust your goal weight based on that. Again it's a way to autoregulate. If it were so shit at getting people strong then it wouldn't be really popular amongst high level powerlifters. You dont *have* to use RPE, percentage based programs work fine. But RPE also works well for lots of lifters. If you have trouble judging RPE you can take videos and look at stuff like bar speed as well eg If your warmups feel bad but they are flying you should stick to your target weight. If your program includes autoregulation you are sticking to your program by autoregulating.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                blahblahblah, you're a gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/ygn6Nmc.png

                I can't believe I spent 18 minutes listening to this. So what Sid from Ice Age is saying here is that RPE is not about how it feels, but is actually a "rating of performance". We already have a perfectly good rating of performance - the weight on the bar. That's what all the sports use, why not use it in training?

                He goes on to say that your RPE should be benchmarked to a max effort. So it's like using a percentage of 1RM.

                He talks about how when using RPE you should have goal weights, and should use RPE to make "course corrections". He recommends using percentages of your max to base your target weight. So you should have a training program based around absolute weights, determined by your 1RM, and then use RPE as an excuse to not stick to your training program, either by undershooting or overshooting the weight.

                And then in response to the criticism that people are not accurate with their RPE ratings he says "Who cares" and "It's not that difficult a skill to master".

                So it's not *just* what you feel like. It's using a training program based on weights, and using how you feel to not stick to that training program.

                I'm just going to stick to my weight-based training program and leave all the funny numbers and adjustments to you guys.

                Btw it's not at all the case that research supports it being hard for lifters to accurately judge RPE. This is mostly a problem with rank novices https://www.strongerbyscience.com/autoregulation/ and https://completehumanperformance.com/2015/09/12/autoregulated-training/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Eric Helms' blog is a scholarly source because it has science in the title

                Lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not Eric Helms blog it's Greg Nuchols and it's a summary of different research. Same with the other, links multiple studies on the accuracy of evaluating RPE.

                >your 1RM isn't the same everyday
                Your 1RM is the maximum you have lifted. It's the same until you set a new max. That's what maximum means. You haven't lifted more. Until you have.

                A certain percentage of your 1rm on a given day will be more or less fatiguing since your strength changes day to day. Autoregulation allows you to adjust based on day to day changes in strength.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >more or less fatiguing since your strength changes day to day.
                Yes. This is fatigue accumulation through a periodized approach to training.

                >Autoregulation allows you to adjust based on day to day changes in strength.
                Your program should be based around managing fatigue over your training block. That's why we program. If you need to change your program to manage your fatigue using RPE, it's because you have a bad program.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's because you have a bad program
                No, it's just another way of programming that works well for getting people stronger. Just because you want to ignore all the strong people who find it incredibly useful doesn't mean it's bad. But hey, if "bad programming" gets me to Jamal browners 900lb pull then sign me up

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Using top level competitors to prove that a training program works ignores that they are outlying top level athletes. The Bulgarian system produced a lot of top level athletes. It's still a stupid way to train.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bro the top athletes are doing stuff that doesn't work!
                Nah I'd rather listen to people who are big and strong and experienced than people who are weak small and have no accomplishments. This is a retarded argument to make people who are have no business giving advice on strength training feel better about their lack of expertise. You've produced 0 (zero) compelling arguments for why autoregulated training gives a lack of results.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >your 1RM isn't the same everyday
                Your 1RM is the maximum you have lifted. It's the same until you set a new max. That's what maximum means. You haven't lifted more. Until you have.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            (2/2)
            >If a weight that was RPE 9 feels like 7 after a while
            Just use the goddamn weight. "I could lift 315 for 3 last block, and this block I did it for a 5x5. It is time to increase the weight". You don't need to obfuscate with RIR.

            >you seem to have 0 understanding of weightlifting
            My brother in Christ you thought powerlifting was weightlifting. But you want a body post, here. Have a body post. I don't care to see yours.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not what RPE is you retard. It's a way to autoregulate since hour strength is different day to day. You come in with a goal weight and adjust it, you should be taking videos of your last warmups and looking at bar speed as well as how the weight feels. Listen to an actually accomplished lifter https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3MDwlT_FGWU

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. You correctly identified and laid out how söy the built in excuse that RPE is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Find me any competitive weightlifter using RPE
          Okay done

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Weightlifting moron. Not powerlifting.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm awesome at excretion. I take the biggest shits. I break toilets constantly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's good and it bad from the studies I read it said mainly the noobs always felt like they could do more even when they hit failure because they just don't have that recruitment aspect yet. Conversely most trained people tend be able to more accurately appraise whether or not as set was as close to their limit as possible. Yeah noobs should not use rpe but anyone who's intermediate trying to get to advanced and burning themselves out ever and over should in addition to probably deloading and going onto a new programming block.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sean Natty is better. Jeff puts out study after study and a program based on it I’ll never do. He over complicated simple things that don’t take reality into consideration. I am not going to setup stupid bull shit for some meager benefit.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't this the guy who made fun of John Meadow's kids coz their Dad died? He's scum, why would anyone take his opinion seriously?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care much for his approach and find him beyond irritating but what is this thread? What an effeminate bitch mentality you have

      That guy's an even bigger gay than Jeff nippard and is an even bigger laughing stock than powder wars era Jason Blaha. Pass.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are giving him your attention for free so whatever he is doing is working

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine making a thread to gossip about another man. you should be banned for gayry

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you are so concerned about what another man does.
    chill.
    enjoy life. you gonna die soon anyway

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's just another roider stringing along thousands of moron kids by acting like he has all the answers due to sCiEnCe

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kinda pathetic that your jealous of someone's success enough that your actively attempting to get fellow failures to point out someone's flaws in a sad attempt to try and make them feel bad about themselves in some capacity.
    I feel bad for you bro.
    Truly sad and pathetic on several levels.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rpe is a completely arbitrary system for gays who upload 4 variations their 0.1 sbd prs to their Instagram every day. just lift the weight gay!

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >His mom doms him and forces him to lick her sweaty post gym anavar puss-puss

    That's kindda out there ngl

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