Can you really get used to intermittent fasting or even OMAD and not feel hungry throughout the day?
Can you really get used to intermittent fasting or even OMAD and not feel hungry throughout the day?
Can you really get used to intermittent fasting or even OMAD and not feel hungry throughout the day?
I haven't eaten in two days and I don't feel hungry, my only issue with fasting is the lightheadedness.
Yes. You may experience something like hunger; but it's not that urgent, gnawing feeling that clouds your mind. It quickens your senses, you learn to almost enjoy it.
Get more electrolytes, my guy. I'd be a dead man if I didn't supplement on fasts.
>but it's not that urgent, gnawing feeling that clouds your mind
If you are busy enough then you can just ignore it. Boredom is hunger's force multiplier.
yes
average western guy probably never feels "normal" hunger anymore. it's just insulin and hunger/satiation hormones being out of control due to years of exposure to goyslop
>Boredom is hunger's force multiplier.
as a neet i used to think that, after i got on IF and keto i realized its probably deeper
i don't just feel less hungry, i also think less about food. the other week my father brought some ice-cream, "normally" i would have demolished it in 2 days. instead i completely forgot about it and parents ate it all
what you perceive as "i think about food cause i have nothing to do" could very well be "my hormones and brain patterns cause me to think about food"
brute force some healthy changes to get out of this "addiction" and eventually you will realize you dieting is not something unpleasant that you force upon yourself, but something normal and natural
>brute force some healthy changes to get out of this "addiction"
I already did, bro. I broke from other carbs by consuming mass quantities of grapefruit, then started keto, did IF for a bit, did some short fasts, back to IF semi-permanently, now toggling on and off of keto. I am probably ten pounds from goal at this point. I just need to hit the weights.
>average western guy probably never feels "normal" hunger anymore. it's just insulin and hunger/satiation hormones being out of control due to years of exposure to goyslop
This. There's a difference between hunger and instinctively opening the fridge. Fasting is nofap for your stomach, it'll train you to ignore the passing urges.
I take tons of salt pills, supplements and coffee, especially if I'm past the 48 hour mark.
Every individual is different, give it a try for 3-4 weeks and see if it works for you. I enjoyed the mild version of IF (16-8s), hunger was very manageable as long as I stuck to a later-oriented feeding window (usually Noon - 8pm). Skipping the breakfast time slot is easy for me, but skipping the dinner slot is a nightmare.
Lost ~50lbs over a 7 month period and I was doing IF for at least half of that time. I would say that once I got used to it, it was much easier than allowing myself to eat at any time of the day.
Did the weight loss slow down over time? I lost 11kg so far, going from 97 to 86kg, and it's taking longer and longer for the weight to come down.
>Did the weight loss slow down over time?
Yeah that's normal, just keep pushing and adjust as necessary. That's actually how I started IF, I was just restricting calories at the start but it was really uncomfortable especially at the end of the day. I have more willpower in the morning, so skipping breakfast to give me a bigger dinner was really helpful. I found that walking for 30-60 mins a day was also helpful. Knocks off some calories without really stimulating any extra hunger.
>lost 11kg so far
Nice man, you're going to make it. Don't let plateaus get to you, just power through and keep a long term view. You've already made solid progress and starting is the hardest part.
>I love how people complain about 16/8 fasting like it's hard or some shit
Well certainly didn't find it "hard", that's why I used terms like "mild" and "manageable" but I can understand why some people might have difficulty, especially with an unhelpful work/school schedule or if they were used to eating all day.
>when it's quite literally everyday life for a large part of the population unintended.
Idk about a "large part". I think most people in the modern era are just used to eating all day. I was doing that for most of my life because of school habits and then not knowing any better later in life, breakfast first thing in the morning and snacking until bed sometimes. My default was probably 11 hours fasting and 13 feeding and I can see some people having a hard time breaking the habit.
>Move it to 20/4 or 22/2 and actually pretend to be strict. Even that's a joke.
If you want. The goal isn't to punish yourself or earn bragging rights though, it's just to help you stick to a caloric deficit. If you can manage that schedule then sure go for it, but that's not for me.
>Nice man, you're going to make it. Don't let plateaus get to you, just power through and keep a long term view. You've already made solid progress and starting is the hardest part.
Thanks man, it's just frustrating seeing the progress get slower and slower. At the start I lost 0.5kg every 3 days, now it's every week if I'm lucky. Makes me afraid that at some point I'll just stop losing weight, despite only eating OMAD.
>Makes me afraid that at some point I'll just stop losing weight, despite only eating OMAD
Not him, but don't sweat it. Mix it up. Do IF for a while, go back to regular eating for a while, then go at it with longer fasts like 48s and 72s. Your body learns to accommodate. Sometimes you need to break up your schedule in order to fool it. Even changing the time of feeding on an OMAD schedule can have this effect.
> it's just frustrating seeing the progress get slower and slower.
I know that feel, you've just gotta keep a long term mindset. I use a calorie/weight tracker app (Cronometer) and that helps keep me motivated and accountable. Your progress will get even more gradual over time, but that's okay as long as you're making SOME progress. This isn't a race, it's a lifestyle change for life.
>At the start I lost 0.5kg every 3 days, now it's every week if I'm lucky.
That's still good bro. For some perspective, I'm super relaxed on my diet now, in a very small deficit since I'm at "normal BMI", but still on a slim cut to actually get lean. I'm going at less than half of your pace. Some weeks are completely flat even, but long-term I'm making progress. Last month I lost a total of 2lbs (about 0.9kg) and it was really quite easy. If I REALLY wanted to, I could drop a few hundred more calories without too much effort and speed this up, but I enjoy my morning breakfast bagel and I'd rather not switch to omelets.
>Makes me afraid that at some point I'll just stop losing weight
As long as you keep putting in the necessary effort, that's not going to happen. If you hit a short plateau, don't worry because it happens. If you hit a long plateau, it's time to drop more calories or add cardio. I also agree with the other anon who suggested mixing it up, that can definitely help push you through rough patches.
It all comes down to willpower in the end. If you can keep going at a deficit for the long-haul, you'll get wherever you want to go.
Thanks bros, dropped another .5kg this morning. Only 3 more until I'm 20% bf. WAGMI
I love how people complain about 16/8 fasting like it's hard or some shit when it's quite literally everyday life for a large part of the population unintended. Move it to 20/4 or 22/2 and actually pretend to be strict. Even that's a joke.
This, 16/8 is just how normal people used to eat. It's how I was raised to eat, I'd get maybe a bowl of chips on saturday.
When I tell my now morbidly obese parents this, they act like they were unreasonably strict back then and eating junk every day is acceptable and normal. Beimg fat causes brain rot.
I eat OMAD and have for the past month, don't really get hungry.
>Post body
It's nothing impressive, but probably more impressive than a troon like you. Coping and seething about other people's self-improvement is a mental defect. We're all gonna make it - except you.
Post body
What are you hoping to see? My body's current condition does not matter. What matters is a constant state of self-improvement. I was 40 pounds overweight. Now it's only ten. I need a new bench, then I will be on the weights more. I'm gonna make it and you can't stop me.
You first seething fat ass
Been doing 16/8 + two 40 hour fasts/week for two years. If anything, I don't feel like it's enough. Haven't done an extended fast of three+ days (five is the sweet spot) in a while. Used to cycle ~15 miles a day commuting but developed sensory ataxia (possibly genetic). Fasting and cutting out inflammatory foods have kept most of my symptoms at bay but lately it's not enough. Walking is more difficult than it needs to be. Feels bad.
>inflammatory foods
I quashed my arthritis and am way far on my way towards eliminating candida by addressing my food intake.
I believe it. Gluten was a big one for me. Years ago before I knew too much about food I always felt severe swelling in my joints. Basically, everything I was eating at that time was potatoes, tomatoes, peppers, chilis, eggs and meat. That nightshade poison is no joke.
How did fasting cure your arthritis?
I cannot say for sure. I figured the arthritis was just part and parcel of having lived a very active life. I went after the candida that was rotting my feet. I reduced my milk intake, went keto for a while, and toggled back and forth between keto and carbs while doing short fasts like 36 and 48 mixed with IF. The candida is almost gone. Something in the mix nailed my arthritis while I was addressing excess fat and candida. Some people claim that eliminating inflammatory foods can cure arthritis, and others propose that fasting related autophagy can kill it. I went at it from both sides at once inadvertently.
IF is actually pretty easy when you put it in perspective... for me, it goes like this:
>wake up and exercise first thing in the morning with a ton of caffeine from my preworkout
>not have any appetite due to preworkout, am not hungry until around noon and eat lunch then as my first meal
>graze throughout day
>finish eating by 8 or 9, but always give myself a little flexibility to have a longer or shorter feeding window
You really do get used to the hunger. For years I was the sort of small-meals-throughout-the-day eater and was trying to avoid ever being in catabolism, and if I ever went longer than 2 hours without having something in my stomach, I felt like I was starving or that I had zero blood sugar. I think from a functional or psychological perspective, it helps to build mental resilience against the feeling of hunger so you can function for longer periods of time without food and overcome a neurosis about always being fed. Plus, fasted states are better for you in so many different ways... heightened insulin sensitivity, improved longevity, etc
Goodnight, homos. I sincerely wish all of you the best of luck, especially the fatties. Keep up the work.
OMAD is nothing lol, especially when you eat a frickload in that one meal. OMEOD is when it starts getting interesting. 72+ hours is when you start astrally projecting
A video on the benefits of Fasting:
Actual research on the lack of benefits of fasting, compared to calorie restriction, when kcals is equated:
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35443107/
"Among patients with obesity, a regimen of time-restricted eating was not more beneficial with regard to reduction in body weight, body fat, or metabolic risk factors than daily calorie restriction."
Stop trying to israelite him out of his spiritual gainz
This is obviously the case, the people pushing it as magic are moronic. The real benefits are psychological (if it suppresses hunger better) and potentially health related (autophagy and stuff). I like fasting, but I still made sure to track my calories and understand that is the basis of any good diet.
the only benefit is that its a good diet for busy people, and people who find eating as a chore. the autophagy stuff isnt true, cause any kcal deficit increases it, and exercises increases it even further, and to a better degree. too much autophagy is what you see in terminall ill patients
The benefits of hunger suppression (if they apply to you) definitely extend beyond the busy and people who see eating as a chore, so I completely disagree with you there. I don't know enough to argue about autophagy (which is why I qualified my earlier statement with "potentially"), but autophagy is a commonly touted benefit of fasting and I hesitate to just believe what you're saying about it being false.
In any sense, we both agree kcal deficit is the key factor. I just personally like fasting as a structured approach to reaching this goal. I don't think you're arguing there are any real "cons" with fasting, or specifically IF (16-8s) which are the ones i've been recommending, are you? Outside of personal preference of course, it's not for everyone.