The carb shilling is just shameless at this point. Sugar is poison pure and simple. It is more addictive than crack and can be equally harmful. The best change anyone can make to their diet is cutting out all sugar but now carbtards are insisting it is even healthy because the brain uses it. That doesn't mean we should eat pure sugar though.
Sugar is toxic and fruit is just candy vegetables. It should be completely avoided.
How to gain weight without carbs
>Carbs are the only source of calories.
Eat whole carbs, like baked/roasted taters.
OP is just understandably buttblasted by vegan shills like redditor u/moxyte coming in to make a thousand keto hate threads with no external stimuli to warrant such spam before being booed out.
What kind of weight? Muscle? Skeletal? Body fat? Water?
Obtuse retard moment
Drink milk instead of water. You'll gain as much weight as you want.
milk is carbs retard
Milk is 5% carbs.
Why do you talk if you don't know anything?
Aren't carbs worse for you by weight than crack?
Peating makes me feel good
>entire human metabolism runs around processing sugar
>nooooo sugar is poison
apply 100 units of insulin now
Sugar is a nutrient, stop comparing it to a drug dumbass. Sugar is pure energy and is pretty based.
Are you talking about sucrose 'table sugar'/added sugar or the actual glucose in your blood.
>fruit is just candy vegetables
Oh, my mistake. You're just a retard
i'm starting to think these outrageous "fruit is literally candy!!!! fiber? nutrients? didn't happen!!!!" are false flags by high carbers
it's what carnivore shills really believe
No they don't Moxyte, they only bitch about fruits and shit within their own circles, since if you're eating fruits, that really isn't carnivorous, but there's also the vitamins and shit that you can't always rely on organ meats to utilize.
In fact, I think only vegan falseflags have depicted meat enthusiasts as going crazy about people outside their circles eating plants.
not to mention the most notable carnivore on the internet (saladino) eats tons of fruit and honey now KEK
Yeah, it's not a bad thing to do. I mean, plants made fruits like apples and oranges to be eaten so their resistant seeds get carried around. We just bred them to yield tastier produce.
wish i had some fresh fruit right now
it's one of their core tenants
up there with "ancel keys invented the food pyramid and everyone got fat because they followed it exactly"
and "calories don't make you fat insulin does"
core tenants? moxyte how often are you researching carnivores to say this... anyways i'm pretty sure that's not exactly true, more like they only eat animal foods thus they wouldn't eat fruit.. because it's not animal food. also ancel keys was bad and the food pyramid made people fat, cope.
Ah, so it was you trying to pull some pilpul. Yeah, let's ignore the low fat craze that happened from the 90's to the later 2010's. Let's ignore how all of the My 600 Pound Life stars got the way they did from eating junk carbs and shit for decades, not meat and milk. Let's ignore that type 2 diabeetus typically occurs from consistent sugar and carb overconsumption, not meat.
Your next line is:
>post body ketolard
>*pic of some obese "keto" fuck who didn't actually follow the diet proper*
>eat mcdonalds burger with carbilicious ketchup, sugary buns, onions infused patties, a large soda, seed oil french fries
>bad things happen
>it musta been the meat
amazing how this happened
It really is shocking. Midwits love to quote that one science experiment about scientifically illiterate people failing to understand the term "dihydrogen monoxide" as water, while themselves failing to notice the cohencidences in people becoming fatter as more soi-based substitutes, HFCS, and sneed oils replace lard, butter, or hell even actual cane sugar, and blaming meat, dairy, etc.
blaming dairy is especially weird since we drink human dairy after we're born
Sugar in small amounts is fine, anyone who claims it's poison is literally moron-tier intelligence.
Just because OP is a fat fuck with no self control doesn't mean the rest of us are as well.
not to sound like a certain spammer schizo but i noticed a lot of anti sugar/low carber youtubers tend to eat a good amount of alt sweetened stuff
>be born in late 80s or 90s
>diet is filled with refined sugar
>quit sugar for your health
>still crave sweet stuff because you’re addicted
Not much of a mystery
but the whole point of quitting sugar is to stop wanting sugar innit
Sugar is bad for you in the long run but it's important for workouts. If you moderate the amount you eat and what kind there'll hardly be any downsides. Unless you're the 1% who can afford to eat 300g of top quality protein everyday you're not going to make any gains.
>begin to mass produce refined sugar about a hundred years ago
>start chugging seed oils that were originally meant to lubricate machinery about a hundred years ago
>over the last hundred years or so generally everyone gets sick, is always in pain, and constantly feel like shit and they blame this on being over 25
You guys are just being dumb, there aren’t any unhealthy foods, you guys just need to run more. The scientists that are completely funded by the companies that sell sugar and seed oils told us that sugar and seed oils are healthy so you guys are just being science deniers. And stop recognizing patterns, recognizing patterns is racist.
i don't agree with sugar being bad, but seed oils are
>a hundred years ago
Life expectancy was 20 years lower than it is today
every single gram of fat you eat is the fat you wear
carb the fuck up
get those fucking carbohydrates in
why are you spreading myths that are verifably false
Healthy fat doesn't make you fat
Unhealthy fat (sneed oils), free sugar and certain carbs make you fat
fat is fat
it all has 9 calories per gram and gets stored as fat by your body immediately
seed oils is a cope it's all bad
>it all has 9 calories per gram and gets stored as fat by your body immediately
>doubling down on something that is observably false
have a nice day
Finally up Moxyte? You slept a lot.
Are you going to tell us your rape story today too?
Oh hello, Moxy boy. Post me in your r/ketoduped screencap.
he's held off posting on reddit, probably because he gets called out almost immediately and constantly which would tell his redditor comrades that he's insane enough to be recognized in 5 seconds
They need to stop shoving this fucking garbage into every food imaginable.
I was at the store and about to pick up beef jerky, and it had almost as much added sugars as it did protein.
This is fucking clown world when I have to search out something like sugar-free beef jerky.
Do you have an oven that go really really low temperature? if so you might wanna try making some jerky at home, i made some once and it was pretty good
Yeah, my friend suggested that the other day too. I might go for it, but its still ridiculous that's the lengths you have to go to get beef jerky with no sugar. It wasn't teriyaki or other sweet flavors either.
bros really trying to convince people the best sources of carbon for the body are bad for you lel
In one corner we have researchers who actually study these things. They run controlled experiments, collect data, and openly admit they don't know all the answers.
In the other corner you have a bunch of idiot youtubers and their followers spouting "oh no it has carbs in it", "oh no, meat gonna give you aids". "eat only meat", "eat only raw veggies".. "don't eat sugar"..."don't eat gluten bro". "i drank nothing but anal juice for a month and it cured my aids"
Sugar in moderation is not bad (20-30g a day). Seed oils in moderation, not bad (2-3 Tbsp a day). You don't need to go on stupid diets that exclude whole groups of foods. It's cope and you'll break at some point and binge.
why is there always the one midwit that comes in with the most lukewarm retarded take "hur dur dur why don't you eat this toxic oils that only exist because of industrialization in moderation broooo!" do they not realize they're recycling government nutrition advice?
seed oils are just bad your body doesn't know how to effectively process them it never evolved to handle such ratios of fatty acids
>poison is small quantities is not bad because the symptoms aren't obvious
Not a very smart way to put it.
>you'll break at some point and binge
Or you're one of those. You have an addiction.
>Seed oils in moderation, not bad (2-3 Tbsp a day).
300-400 calories of seed oils a day is terrible for you
That's what's so deceptive, is just a few spoonfuls in every processed food, and now it adds up to 30% of the american diet
sugar every day keeps the garden gnome doctor away.
We're literally designed to eat fruits retard.
>winter has entered chat
monkeys primarily get calories from fruits
I meant evidence for humans. This is a human board. Get out monkey moron.
You just made its point.
I'm on your side for hating sugar, but I assure you it's not more addictive than crack cocaine.
please psyop me into stopping sugar
ive tried weed, alcohol, caffeine and easy gave them up
i cant give up sugar
by tomorrow afternoon another me will be in control and ill be at the shop, picking up donuts, back of chocolates or sweets, pack of biscuits and a big bottle of sugar free soda. then i eat it all getting cozy on IST and my pc/youtube then sleep like shit, wake up feeling like shit and do it all again
Stop buying it.
If there is sugar in my house, I will eat it.
I just don't buy it. If I'm hungry I eat things in my house (healthy foods), so I don't want to go and buy shit.
Sugar causes glycation which is the primary cause of aging.
so you read some studies
Tell me about glycation. Does any sugar cause it? Surely not since we make glucose. Is it an issue when we have "excessive" sugar? I suppose some aging is inevitable.
>carb addicts losing their minds
you love to see it
Judging by present and past statements of the American Dietetic Association, I think some kind of institutional brain defect might account for their recommendations.
who a pound of sugar a day here?
Carb loading is the only instance when carbs are good for you excluding fat fucks, in order to get a good workout and look swoll AF u have to carb load, after ur workout reduce carbs to minimum from natural unprocessed sources like fruits, vegetables and honey, a couple of spoons of sugar or a lil bread is not gonna hurt u
>poison is fine if you take a lil bit of it
Not a very smart stance.
why are any of the things he listed bad, or rather why are table sugar and bread bad?
Carbs are great for you. What's toxic for your body are foreign carbs. I'll warn you now, the rabbit hole goes deep.
Just think of carbs and especially sugar as high grade race car fuel.
Are you racing or are you driving your shitty sedan around at 30mph?
That's retarded. I did nocarbs for a while and had better energy. No lethargy because of low blood sugar, the same energy all day.
Cool, what were your performance metrics at that time? Any new lifting records, 0.1-1km run times etc?
Sure you weren't just driving your sedan around the whole time, which is completely fine by the way, and perfectly fit into my analogy?
I didn't witness any performance decline. Maybe it's suboptimal for Olympian athletes or something I don't know nor do I care, none of us here are professional athletes.
I just felt a lot better during the day and my performance didn't appear any different, that's enough for me.
I often eat 5-600 grams of sugar a day come at me.