CARBS

There is literally NOTHING wrong with carbs if you are an active guy and eat them to fuel your lifting and cardio. If you look at actual athletes and their diets, you will see they eat a ton of carbs.
KETO is mostly an excuse for lazy fat fucks (with no self control) to stuff their fat faces with bacon and burgers

Eat carbs if you actually want to lift heavy and also enjoy running/cycling/swimming/whatever

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Agree but glucose, dextrose and starches/polysaccharide chains only

    Sucrose, fructose and galactose are garbage shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Depends on the carbs you eat. Modern day bread is garbage tier, completely processed. Bread usually only takes about 6 ingredients to make, nowadays it's more than you can count.
      Carbs are good if you expend the energy you gain from it. If you sit on your ass and eat carbs all day, you're basically giving yourself a lot of energy and then a dip for no reason.
      TLDR if you don't lift and you have an office job / easy going job with little to no physical labor, living off fats is more sustainable and you'll probably feel better.
      If you want to bodybuild, yes carbs + protein + fats are kino.

      >Yeah eat my bullshit sugar replacements, but fruits are bad!
      GTFO American

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >More ingredients is bad because...BECAUSE IT JUST IS OKAY?!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but you are a retard.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            True. Anyone who sees actual gains is eating a TON of carbs.

            It's me, you are a retard

            >Oh no teh ingredients!!!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's me, you are a retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Apples are high in fructose, are you saying those are bad for you?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ok, now prove it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              As I suspected. Saying "apples are actually bad for you" is not 1+1=2. If you cannot back up your claim then it is quite worthless.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                fiber + sugar + water = healthy?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Refined sugars are bad for you because they are burned fast and you crash faster
                Fructose is released more slowly and more sustainable

                AMERICANS GET THE FUCK OFF THIS BOARD YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT DIET OR NUTRITION GO FIX YOUR FUCKING COUNTRY BEFORE YOU EVER TALK HERE AGAIN AS IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, those are all things your body needs to operate effectively. And since your body is required to work to break down an apple to get at its sugar, it doesn't have the same ill effects you get from processed sugars like hfcs that the body absorbs instantly.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >are genetically engineered apples with 30g of sugar bad for you????!!!?!?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >genetically engineered
          genetics=scary
          every food has been genetically engineered to be bigger, even meat. so you should stop eating.
          and even the air you breathe is produced by genetically modified plants, so stop breathing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the problem with apples is that they were bred specifically to be sugar bombs
            it's literally tree-grown candy
            nothing wrong with that but a pitiful amount of micronutrients doesn't make up for it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Just having a lot of sugar isn't automatically a bad thing. Apples are lower on the glycemic index than all grains, oatmeal, and even vegetables like peas and carrots.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                and a high glycemic index is not a bad thing
                if I'm eating carbs it's because I need to fuel my cardio

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                fat can fuel cardio without giving you diabetes

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Carbs don't give you diabetes so

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >a high glycemic index is not a bad thing
                Oh? Why is that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i will eat my bananas and i will be happy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Fructose is bad for you
      Absolute cringe and retarded take.
      Educate yourself
      https://umzu.com/blogs/health/sugar-is-good-for-you-the-power-of-sugar-for-the-metabolism

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >sources say man made food good!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Educate yourself
        Ok, I read your link.
        >Besides the evidence that fructose creates more CO2, it also has been shown to lower the insulin response whenever added to glucose.
        Yep, those mass monsters sure do get big by lowering their insulin responses. Only small dudes inject slin to stay small

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >glucose
      Okay time to candymaxx

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    goyslop
    kings eat meat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Slaves get angry when bad goys refuse to eat the slave feed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      Grains are for peasants and peons, always have been, always will be.
      I'm not keto, but my only carbs come from dairy, fruit(berries, almost exclusively)and the odd bit of potato or oats. Always below 130g.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kings were obese and died young

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This is true but you're going to get endless kvetching at this fact

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The truth hurts

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Athletes eat carbs because they're athletes
    For fatties doing baby's first cut they don't need carbs
    Also learning to get by without carbs just incidentally introduces good diet habits
    As long as you don't go full retard and eat steak and bacon 10 times a week it's fine
    >burgers
    >keto
    lol

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can have carbs and s
    Even simple carbs like sugar imo. I'm not a gymcel I eat what i want and lift and look good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This site is making me paranoid. Can you make gains as long as you're not eating junk food and eat whatever you want (in moderation)?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No. Body composition for a natty is hugely influenced by diet. Food changes hormones. Hormones change body composition.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Bullshit post Chad eats pizza and looks good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Once you hit a certain amount of lean mass you unlock insane diet flexibility by virtue of having so much muscle to fuel. At a maintenance of 3k+ you can basically eat anything you want so long as you get enough protein and make it in the ballpark of your calories.

        Bullshit post Chad eats pizza and looks good.

        Because Chad has a high FFMI and therefore a higher BMR

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ryan Talbot just won the decathlon thanks to his carnivore diet.

    Carbs are a meme.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat them so I can lift hard and still run every day

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Keto is for diabetics and pre diabetics which now accounts for almost 50% of the US

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it doesn't work for them. My bloods were in the pre-diabetic range after months on strict keto, due to the fat clogging up the insulin receptors. You may not like it, but plant based whole food worked in my case.

      Take your blood sugar, keto nards. You might be shocked.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >LCSFA β-oxidation induced reverse electron transport generates superoxide to signal that the cell should stop taking up energy
        not quite as pithy as your version but more correct

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah but guess what 98% of people are either fat or doing just enough cardio to not get fat.

    "People who are not fat and are also do such intense cardio they need loads of energy" is really really small

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I love my carbs. God damn, I love them.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >eat carbs
    >get fat
    no thanks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, this looks like a total increase in consumed calories. So it is open to debate if the carb itself is the problem, or if the influence of higher total energy input combined with a more sedentary lifestyle are to blame

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      seems to perfectly correlate with the increased popularity with deep fried fatty fast food chains. what a coincidence

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Okay, that's a lot of fat and carbs and not much protein or vegetables. All this proves is that either fat or carbs makes you fat and that either carnivores or vegans or possibly normal people are right.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >either carnivores or vegans are right
          That's a big gap lol

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Difference between wheat/grain/refined carbs and carbs like potatoes, rice etc.
          Difference between trans fats and saturated fats

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          pufas for the insulin sensitivity
          carbs for the insulin
          remove one, both or count calories to stay slim

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ketolards in my experience are the least likely people to ever post body.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ketoschizo posted body, I have yet to see a vegan

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen some vegans post, I think I remember ketoschizo was he making the threads like daily a few months back? I was gone from here for a few months.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen some vegans post, I think I remember ketoschizo was he making the threads like daily a few months back? I was gone from here for a few months.

        ketoschizo doesn't exist. you have a mental illness.

        you are in fact talking to a multitude of regular, normal people. they are all different posters - i assure you. many are baffled by your crippled mind (probably due to lack of nutrients from a vegan diet).

        they tell you you are mentally ill, because you are. please get help. the treatment you so desperately need, veganschizo. i beg you. end this shadow-boxing with invisible opponents. end this endless fight against yourself, and you can finally declare true victory: the victory of mental health and proper nutrition.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ketoschizo is the guy from /fat/ shilling carnivore retard

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with carbs even if you don’t have an active life.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >there is nothing wrong with consuming your body’s preferred energy choice
    Gee who woulda thought

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Inflammation apparently. Also the fact of getting tired after eating and experiencing energy level shifts throughout the day. If you can find me a carb diet that is non-inflammatory that would be pretty good. I've tried carnivore and had steady energy levels all day every single day. That alone has improved my quality of life so dramatically that I don't want to go back.

    If you could show me a diet with carbs in it that doesn't make me sleepy randomly and also after eating then I would eat carbs.

    >dyel
    No I'm a fatass that's losing currently. I'll get on the train when I hit my goal weight. Not gonna be lifting in a massive deficit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You know if you have no energy to lift because of the deficit, you could eat some carbs like an hour before your workout? But then I guess you wouldn’t be doing your meme diet that you’re going to rebound from in a few months

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >carb diet that is non-inflammatory
      plant based whole foods only, nothing white or processed. Slow release, high fiber. Last known hunter gatherer tribe ate 100-120g fiber daily with four plump shits. Thats your natural state. They had three times the gut microbe diversity as the average Amerinard

      Look at our closest animal relatives and how monster strong they are, their guts aren't all that different, except they are better adapted for fermentation. All they eat is plants. Strongest, with the biggest swinging dicks on land. A lion has a tiny cock.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gorillas eat 60 pounds of food per day you absolute retard, and chimps eat meat all the time. They even eat each other. By the way, primates fling their shit, fuck in harems and kill weaklings, should we do that too?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          they also eat their own shit to get vit B12. vegans should do the same

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.

        • 1 month ago
          I love Women

          yes

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >What do we long for when we see beauty?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >300lb animals eat more food
          Who would have thought

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gorilla dick size average is 3 inches, it's just a fun fact I like to share

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Your fat is your carbs, thats why you fucking retard

      Fat people truly are stupid

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat over 300g of carbs daily and am currently 9% body fat. I do resistance and endurance training. I only eat rice and oats as my carbs though, breads and pasta are fucked up and literally make me feel like shit

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    keto also causes insulin resistance in the long run, basically fat clogs the insulin receptors. There aren't any weird tricks really one way or the other, there's always a balance.

    Also too much fat is really hard on your liver, and you end up overproducing bile to break it all down, and the waste product is really bad for your colon.

    At the end of the day, there aren't any long-lived, healthy populations that drink fat all day. Eskimos die relatively young. Too much omega-3 is worse than not enough, because you need a certain level of inflammation in your body for critical functions. There aren't any weird tricks at all.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mentions carbs
    >only posts grains

    You've got grain brain my dude, maybe if you posted some potatoes i woulda taken you seriously

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >yes goy eat those carbs, fat is bad for you!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      now post mongolian liver cancer rates

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        hit and a miss autismo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You aren't a Mongolian warrior

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        YWNBAMW

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We know
    Most people here eat too much protein not enough carbs and not enough fat

    You need 0.8g of protein/lb of LEAN body mass
    Double that for your carbs
    And fill the rest of the calories with fat

    Dieting isn't hard once you know your ratios

    T. 3+/4/5+
    Peak bodybuilding stats:
    [email protected]<8% bf @6'4

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I agree, consuming enough dairy means you'll only ever be in mild ketosis.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    trust me, carbs are evil.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    carb the fuck up passive aggressive estrogenic grain bros

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      God that looks delicious. Id kill for some nice seafood pasta rn

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He be bulkin

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This athleticism can only be achieved with carbs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      With that bulk, everyday is leg day. When that guy will be cutting he'll be jacked af.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Fuel your lifting" except it's completely unnecessary for fuelling anything. You're just addicted to the stuff and you use it as a post-hoc rationalisation, as though if you weren't stuffing your face with man made crap you wouldn't have the energy to get out of bed. There are people on zero carbs winning ultra marathons and meanwhile some fat fuck on IST thinks he needs to gorge on grains to fuel his PPL workout. The body makes what glucose it needs.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        These are the people telling you not to eat carbs

        >sources say man made food good!

        Samefagging this hard

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >everyone I disagree with is one person because I'm so right there must only be one guy who disagrees

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes mysteriously 3 people in a row, 1 minute after another had the same opinion

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              No retard if you want proof, tag all the posters that disagree with you , and I will show you there are more than 4 people here who think you're brain-dead.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh no there's people that disagree with me
                I haven't seen a keto thread in a year, yet here you are lmao. Spamming your own thread 10 hours later.
                You know how we know?
                You type the exact same way retard

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How hard is it to imagine that more than one person can disagree ketoschizo?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's time to take your meds

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This kind of retardedness is only possible with a keto diet.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and what exactly is that photo meant to indicate? because to me it's the same thing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            People post the graph in the top right to show a divergence between sugar intake and obesity but its on a short time scale and a relatively small change

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >keto ultra marathon winners
      Source?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Post body (you won't)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      False idealism. Clothes and coffee aren't necessary. They are beneficial

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Even if it were true that keto eaters were winning ultramarathons, which I doubt, why would you compare an ultra endurance sport like that with explosive, high strength, rapid, high performance activity?
      "ultra marathoners" basically powerwalk for 50 miles. It's more of a mental challenge than a physical one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nooo i must eat carbs to bending one joint with some weight on the end

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These are the people telling you not to eat carbs

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just had a lot of sandwiches because I was too lazy to cook anything 🙁

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder zero carb retards are all mentally stunted and depressed, that's why they lash out at anyone who disagrees with their meme diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >the brain competes with the rest of the body for glucose
      more like fatty acid oxidation translocates GLUT4 away from the cell surface to save glucose for the brain

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Source
      >Google
      Stop samefagging

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The brain can use ketones. Eating no carbs does not mean no blood sugar. Your liver is always producing glucose whether or not you eat glucose

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its not optimal

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          that's why doctors actually recommend keto diets for people

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            They don't but ok

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The brain can use ketones
        Your red blood cells can't. And ketones aren't exactly optimal for the brain. Otherwise it wouldn't preferentially use glucose when given the choice.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i eat spaghetti or bread all the time and i consistently weight myself from 60 to 70 kg. keep in mind im 193cm tall

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i also do burgers and pizza but it's pretty much the same anyway

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      post skelly body

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        if i ever get either fat or muscle i might post it, until then i'll keep it to myself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you continue to eat like this when it's causing you to be morbidly underweight?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carbs are essentially concentrated energy void of any other benefit than being batteries. So if you're using tons of energy, of course it's fine to go nuts on carbs. If you're a couch potato, not so much. Which is the problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How much "energy" you should consume to warrant such consumption of carbs/calories derived from carbs? Is 1 heavy weights workout every other day enough? Is 1 workout per day enough? 1 workout and 1 cardio session? 1 full marathon a day?
      Truth be told nobody fucking knows. Just eat clean, there's literally nothing else to it.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Agreed. I'm all about high fat, absurd numbers of eggs, and drowning in butter, because I actually lift, but for that same reason I need carbs. I don't think ketofags are fat because how the fuck could you gain weight without carbs? They're either twinks or conveniently aren't talking about how their 6 cheat days and how they're totally gonna get serious with their diet on monday.
    All that said, I ain't eating much bread. I feel ten times stronger with just rice and potatoes for carbs.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I feel more energetic when I am on a keto diet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I feel more energetic when I do meth. That must mean meth is good for me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hm you're right I should do meth thank you anon for being so incredibly fucking retarded for even making that statement

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The cope is real

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, do nothing that increases your energy. You're a fucking genius. Do everything that make you feel absolutely lethargic and lazy.
            Christ we got the next Einstein right here

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I put X in my body and I feel good
          >I put Y in my body and I feel good also
          >ITS NOT THE SAME REEEEE MEAT IS GOOD FOR YOU

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You too, are completely autistic, and you deep down know that you are, yet it will crush your ego if you acknowledge it

            Either that or you have American education same for you

            The cope is real

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >posts graph of a bunch of drug trials funded by drug companies
            This has nothing to do with diet fuck off

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the studies saying meat is good for you isn't funded by the beef and egg companies
              How new are you

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              my favourite is raising HDL with drugs that inhibit its proper function and then claiming that high HDL through diet isn't actually useful

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's okay to eat carbs, men can get pregnant these days, I don't judge your addiction.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd eat more carbs if I burnt more calories, I'm at 160p, 165c, 85f at 2100 calories a day rn and I only eat meat a few times a weak cuz I'm cheap as heck.

    I still have one carb heavy meal a day, but it's be so much easier if I could eat more calories, it'd all go straight to carbs.

    It'd also be easier if I just ate more meat lmao

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Damn the sugar addict is lashing out again.
    Did you fast for 4 hours? Are the cravings too strong?

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NOTHING wrong with carbs if you are an active guy and eat them to fuel your lifting and cardio
    >KETO is mostly an excuse for lazy fat fucks
    No. Keto is wrong for everyone. Don't eat high-fat diets. Carbohydrates don't convert to fat readily, while fat you eat is fat you wear. In fact the few medicines which are approved for weight-loss work by preventing fat from being absorbed.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Source: The 50's
      >Carbohydrates don't convert to fat readily, while fat you eat is fat you wear
      >Medicine for weight-loss
      LMAO if your weight loss depends on 'medicine' you're already a lost cause

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He’s right, glucose is rarely converted to fat, it’s an energy intensive process.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          glucose raises insulin and then makes more fructose into fat in the liver

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >carbs raise insulin, a hormone needed for them to be actually useful as fuel
            I'm glad you could get there on your own
            >word salad
            What

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              its not word salad. if you have high insulin more fructose will turn into fat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In excess anything turns to fat. Eating fruit does not cause "high insulin"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                fructose makes liver fat more than anything else. I didnt say fruit but high fructose specifically. most fruit has enough fiber that the fructose wont make it to the liver

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                other than alcohol obviously

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                This is the fitness board. Nobody here is mainlining high fructose corn syrup. You are making generalizations about fructose and then alluding to unhealthy foods. Its dishonest

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                the dose makes the poison. i shouldnt have to say that a coke isnt the same as a few apples like im trying to fool people that theyre the same

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You made sweeping generalization about fructose and glucose in general.
                See

                glucose raises insulin and then makes more fructose into fat in the liver

                , your original post

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Are you implying glucose turns to fructose? It doesn't. Besides saturated fat intake is even higher causation of NAFLD than even fructose. For obvious reason. Gotta pack it somewhere out of bloodstream post-haste to keep system running, might as well pack it to liver and muscle cells causing fatty liver and insulin resistance.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your reading comprehension is equivalent to your value as a human: zero.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These are the same people telling you that lifting isn't conducive to weight loss. I lift. I eat fatty meat. I cannot stop being lean and hungry. I don't trust a word they say.
      That said I read How Not To Die and it was interesting. Makes it seem you can starve out cancer.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Makes it seem you can starve out cancer.
        in theory, you can shrink cancer and make it easier to deal with, while slowing down its growth with like a very light vegan diet and high impact exercise. You obviously aren't going to cure cancer though

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >while slowing down its growth with like a very light vegan diet
          vegan diets are usually high carb and most cancers feed exclusively on glucose

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >There is literally NOTHING wrong with carbs if you are an active guy and eat them to fuel your lifting and cardio
    There is literally nothing wrong with carbs, period.*

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, most of us are not fucking professional athletes and have real jobs we have to go to you retard. We can't all make our lives entirely focused on exercise. A low carb diet is still ideal for most people.

  37. 1 month ago
    SwedishBrorsan

    half of that shit is full of sneed oils and pasta cointain a disgusting amount of energy in consideration of its portion size,
    broccoli, carrots, potatoes and few more for flavour and vitamins is enough for me for carbs

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Literally nothing in that photo has seed oils in it besides the sliced bread, MAYBE.

      • 1 month ago
        SwedishBrorsan

        literally half of the pic is bread and looks like the typical store bought garbage filled with sneed oils

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    by my experience carbs are great to bulk, maintain, or get fat, depends on how much and what you do
    if you wanna lose weight eating them a lot is like shooting your own foot
    Not good not bad just carbs, choose them wisely

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    captcha: grains(lave)

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw when the food pyramid was accurate all along.

    Should have just listened to mom.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I literally don’t eat anything in that picture ever and I exercise twice a day lift and run

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i sit on my ass for 9 hours a day and swim like 30 minutes after work everyday, does this apply to me too?

    newfag here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >some type of refined garbage sugars are bad for you therefore all carbohydrates are bad
    >>some type of refined fats (trans fats) are bad for you therefore all fats are bad

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carbs are based, however if you have metabolic syndrome, a period of intense therapeutic fasting and keto to reset insulin sensitivity, followed by a gradual reintroduction of healthy carbs, can be very effective.

    Actual athletes who eat a lot of carbs have never been fat, and fucked over their metabolic flexibility. People who are overweight/obese should do keto with fairly intense caloric restriction until they reach a healthy BMI. It's a lot easier and psychologically less taxing than eating higher carbs at a deficit, imo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Keto doesn't reset insulin sensitivty. Everyone fails oral glucose tolerance test after high-fat diets, and internet is rampant with people wondering why their blood sugars are so high on keto. It causes insulin resistance. There's a reason why ketofags only stare at A1C marker, because that doesn't reveal the diabetes they got as long as they keep doing low-carb diet. Everything else does.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So does sugar or saturated fat cause diabetes? WHAT THE FUCK IS IT.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Saturated fat.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I don't believe you

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Ok

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Being fat caused diabetes. Only link with sugar is that sugar makes ppl fat if more is consumed than burned off. Free fatty acids in the bloodstream are partly to blame for diabetes but its mainly inflammed fatty tissue that cannot regenerate because there arent enough bloodvessels close to it. The cure for diabetes type 2 is also just to lose weight, if you are not too far gone(in which case you wont lose the weight anyways since ur biblical tier).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not fat but have a slightly high blood glucose and 0.1 over the A1C limit. Just a little protrusion in my belly region and I don't drink soda and rarely have sugar. It's probably all the carbs I eat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Saturated fat.

          What other markers should people be looking at? Personally I don't abide strictly by low carb but mentally I perform much better on low carb and add some carbs prior to workout and I'm wondering if that can induce hyperglycemia if I get carried away.

          Fasting blood sugar levels and glucose tolerance. Like I said, keto shills deliberately focus on A1C and don't talk about the other two metrics at all since everyone on prolonged high-fat diets fails those.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What other markers should people be looking at? Personally I don't abide strictly by low carb but mentally I perform much better on low carb and add some carbs prior to workout and I'm wondering if that can induce hyperglycemia if I get carried away.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be an idiot. There's an abundance of clinical evidence suggesting LCD has a positive impact on insulin sensitivity.
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8500369/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24015695/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31217353/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26638192/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33390277/
        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33652715/

        Read every one of those studies before you reply.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Where are the keto advocates who aren't morbidly obese or using steroids?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Is this a joke?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Do you need me to repeat myself?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >hey bro just read all this shit I googled that I haven't actually read myself
          Picked your last study at random and it doesn't even try to address activity levels and their effect on insulin sensitivity.
          I'm not an obese diabetic/prediabetic. I'm a lean, athletic individual. These results are meaningless for me.
          The best way to fight metabolic syndrome is to do more physical activity and stop eating junk food.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >give you clear instructions to read every study before replying to me
            >you admit in your reply that you picked a single study "at random"
            My god, you people are impossible.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If I recall you ketolards do the exact same thing whenever veganschizo appears

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You haven't read those studies, you've skimmed the abstract and decided it supported your position and thought you would give it as homework to people before they have the right to disagree with you.
              Slurp some more bacon grease you fat fuck

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The thing is you didn't read them. You searched low carb benefit or something and posted them en masse

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The "positive impact" goes away the second you eat a carbohydrate. The benefit is within the boundaries of a chronic diet. It levels out, it doesn't improve the actal functioning of insulin once you do actually have to use it when you eat carbohydrates

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Simple carbs are good. Whole grains are poison.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Carbs are for the chickens to convert into the eggs I eat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >eating carb-loaded goychickens
      NGMI

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes there is

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've been ripped drinking 600 calories of beer every day so I believe you

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Since fit is wrong about everything, does this mean that the path to fitness

    >eat lots of carbs
    >cook with sneed oils
    >do lots of cardio

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, besides the fact that fit acts like fat isn’t bad, so sneed oil is ok but not too much

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really notice any benefits going over 100g a day tbh, I eat white rice and veggies and have energy for an hour of cardio a day, walking 20k steps, work and 4x workouts a week with moderate volume

    I read Lyle McD claim that that even a brutal marathon full body session will only use the equivalent in glycogen of 40g of carbs max

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Brutal marathon full body session
      >160 kcal max
      Lyle sounds retarded

  51. 1 month ago
    JrEg worshipper

    I try to avoid cards cause they r ez to binge on and that shit is gay

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